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[Tom Del Rosso]

Ricky C wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:15:59 PM UTC-4, Neo Bass wrote:
Snip

I keep seeing a "Kings" on the map. That's not a borough of the
city like Queens is though, right? Is that a county in NY state?
Oh, it's the county that Brooklyn is in, i.e. the same thing
geographically. NYC is complicated! <<Snip

A simple Google search yields Kings County is Brooklyn if no one has
mentioned that yet.

D

I think you replied to a pretty old post. I figured that out some
time ago. They also refer to Staten Island as Richmond county and
Manhattan as New York county. They don't actually have county
governments though.

Yes they do, but not as counties. There is a Borough President in each,
and the 5 of them used to form the city's Board of Estimate, which the
US Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional 30 years ago. The boroughs
don't have any other branch of government, as the only local legislature
is the city assembly.

 

[Ricky C]

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:31:22 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Ricky C wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:15:59 PM UTC-4, Neo Bass wrote:
Snip

I keep seeing a "Kings" on the map. That's not a borough of the
city like Queens is though, right? Is that a county in NY state?
Oh, it's the county that Brooklyn is in, i.e. the same thing
geographically. NYC is complicated! <<Snip

A simple Google search yields Kings County is Brooklyn if no one has
mentioned that yet.

D

I think you replied to a pretty old post. I figured that out some
time ago. They also refer to Staten Island as Richmond county and
Manhattan as New York county. They don't actually have county
governments though.

Yes they do, but not as counties. There is a Borough President in each,
and the 5 of them used to form the city's Board of Estimate, which the
US Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional 30 years ago. The boroughs
don't have any other branch of government, as the only local legislature
is the city assembly.

I think you are agreeing with me that they don't have county governments. I'm not clear on your other statements. I don't really care about the governmental organization of NYC. I was simply mentioning this because the city shows up as five counties in the COVID-19 map I use. I've heard of Queens, but not of Kings.

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[Tom Del Rosso]

Ricky C wrote:

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:31:22 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso
wrote:
Ricky C wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:15:59 PM UTC-4, Neo Bass wrote:
Snip

I keep seeing a "Kings" on the map. That's not a borough of the
city like Queens is though, right? Is that a county in NY state?
Oh, it's the county that Brooklyn is in, i.e. the same thing
geographically. NYC is complicated! <<Snip

A simple Google search yields Kings County is Brooklyn if no one
has mentioned that yet.

D

I think you replied to a pretty old post. I figured that out some
time ago. They also refer to Staten Island as Richmond county and
Manhattan as New York county. They don't actually have county
governments though.

Yes they do, but not as counties. There is a Borough President in
each, and the 5 of them used to form the city's Board of Estimate,
which the US Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional 30 years ago. The
boroughs don't have any other branch of government, as the only
local legislature is the city assembly.

I think you are agreeing with me that they don't have county
governments. I'm not clear on your other statements. I don't really
care about the governmental organization of NYC. I was simply
mentioning this because the city shows up as five counties in the
COVID-19 map I use. I've heard of Queens, but not of Kings.

Just that you speculated that they don't have county governments but
they do have the same sort of government as any other counties. I don't
think any county has 2 or 3 branches of government. I think counties
generally just have executives, and the 5 boroughs have them too. No
county makes laws AFAIK. The executives used to have more power when
they formed the Board of Estimate.

 

[Ricky C]

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 8:57:36 AM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Ricky C wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 10:31:22 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso
wrote:
Ricky C wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:15:59 PM UTC-4, Neo Bass wrote:
Snip

I keep seeing a "Kings" on the map. That's not a borough of the
city like Queens is though, right? Is that a county in NY state?
Oh, it's the county that Brooklyn is in, i.e. the same thing
geographically. NYC is complicated! <<Snip

A simple Google search yields Kings County is Brooklyn if no one
has mentioned that yet.

D

I think you replied to a pretty old post. I figured that out some
time ago. They also refer to Staten Island as Richmond county and
Manhattan as New York county. They don't actually have county
governments though.

Yes they do, but not as counties. There is a Borough President in
each, and the 5 of them used to form the city's Board of Estimate,
which the US Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional 30 years ago. The
boroughs don't have any other branch of government, as the only
local legislature is the city assembly.

I think you are agreeing with me that they don't have county
governments. I'm not clear on your other statements. I don't really
care about the governmental organization of NYC. I was simply
mentioning this because the city shows up as five counties in the
COVID-19 map I use. I've heard of Queens, but not of Kings.

Just that you speculated that they don't have county governments but
they do have the same sort of government as any other counties. I don't
think any county has 2 or 3 branches of government. I think counties
generally just have executives, and the 5 boroughs have them too. No
county makes laws AFAIK. The executives used to have more power when
they formed the Board of Estimate.

Every county I've lived in makes laws. They usually impose taxes and are responsible for organizing police, fire, trash, etc., etc., etc. which the NYC counties don't do. The city does.

Try living in PA where everywhere has three levels of government. If you aren't in a city you are in a borough or a township (not the same as a town at all). Essentially every location is in a miniature county. NJ has them too.

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