Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?...

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 04:27:38 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 17:50:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Was it? I was too busy to notice.
I think the most pretentious one is \'taupe\'

Had to look that up too. Mouse colored doesn\'t sound like it would go over
with the fashionistas. Better than naked mole-rat I guess.

I\'ve killed 3 mice a day in the last week with 7kV. It fucking stinks though. Maybe half an amp is a bit much.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 04:14:28 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


I can\'t believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.

I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the \'80s without a woman hanging around
the house. They know about that sort of stuff. Well, maybe not my ex. She
never cared about House Beautiful and afaik she never wore makeup in her
life.

My Chemistry teacher once came in 10 minutes late in a fluster. His excuse was his wife (my cooking teacher) was \"putting on her makeup with a shovel\". She looked like Al Bundy\'s wife in Married With Children, but way more makeup.

In my dotage I\'ve taken to building models of German WWII armor and have
been introduced to the Tamiya rack at the hobby store. Ye Gods...

https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/paints/bottles/

The Germans built some fine tanks but luckily they didn\'t let Eva Braun
select the color schemes and I can go by the numbers.

We never painted our Tamiya stuff, as it was often involved in crashes.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 16:57:02 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 09/03/2023 16:46, John Larkin wrote:
On 9 Mar 2023 04:14:28 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


I can\'t believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.

I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the \'80s without a woman hanging around
the house. They know about that sort of stuff.

People are very different. You can only generalize about averages but
the normal distribution of most anything is wide.

Golly. I knew mauve as a five year old, red blue and white paint.

I knew mauve fawn and beige and they all looked the same to me. Just light brown isn\'t it?

> Long time before I worked out what Chartreuse was, though.

Sounds like a French delicacy.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 10:25:37 -0000, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

In article <t1iOL.803539$t5W7.128740@fx13.iad>,
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-03-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


I can\'t believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.

I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the \'80s without a woman hanging
around the house. They know about that sort of stuff. Well, maybe not
my ex. She never cared about House Beautiful and afaik she never wore
makeup in her life.

I\'m pretty much indifferent to House Beautiful and never wore makeup.
But my capacity for trivia is nearly boundless.

That said, my husband and I like to watch various home improvement
shows where decorating is also involved. We criticize bad construction
technique and marvel at the decorators\' ability to listen to the
homeowners and do nothing like what they wanted. It\'s always
white walls, kitchen cabinets, and countertops. I think their purpose
is to scrape any personality away from the house.

If an interior decorator ever knocks on my door, they\'ll be shot
on sight.

In a stage play I was involved with, someone asked the difference between
an interior decorator and an interior designer. \"The size of the bill.\"

Birds aren\'t good at decorating.

 

[John Larkin]

On 10 Mar 2023 06:24:56 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 08:51:43 -0800, John Larkin wrote:


The old Victorians and deco and moderne houses are quirky and wonderful.


My ex and I had some fun times in the little room at the top of a tower in
an old Victorian. The entry was sort of a trap door so we wouldn\'t be
disturbed. The curved glass panes blew my mind.

I knew a man who specialized in Victorian restoration. He made a living
but it was mostly a labor of love. Had he accounted for all the hours he
put in and paid a reasonable hourly rate you\'d have to be Bill Gates to
afford him.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xghwicv4920orlc/Cumberland_Tower.jpg?raw=1

 

[Rod Speed]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:53:22 +1100, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:04:15 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 23:14:56 -0000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk
wrote:

On 16/03/2023 19:51, charles wrote:
In article <op.11wvwlpsmvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 02:05:11 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:30:39 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly
polished steel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway

Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the
distance my car is required to by law.

Do the math.

If I did the maths I\'d get a more complete answer.

A fully laden coal car weighs about 140 tons. I\'ve never been bored
enough to count cars when I stopped at a crossing but there are a
lot
of them. Let\'s say 30 for the sake of argument, 4200 tons plus the
weight of the engines. Let\'s say 4 at 200 tons each. So, roughly
5000
tons traveling at 50 mph. That\'s quite a bit of kinetic energy to
dump
in 300\'. I can hear snapping axles and see flying wheels.

But there are many wheels.

A fully laden truck/lorry/whatever you call them over there can\'t
stop as
quick as a car, but it can stop in a safe distance. A train cannot,
it\'s
not fit for purpose. If something unexpected happens, it just
ploughs
through it. Trains are outdated technology and it\'s high time we
got rid
of them. Maybe a maglev can stop quicker?

Trains run on private tracks and make their own rules

More to the point, railway tracks are normally fenced off and it is
illegal for the public to access them except at level crossings

A law to prevent you hurting yourself is silly.

Of course we all went on the tracks as kids.

I got busted for putting coins on a track to be smashed flat.

My what you lot call a grade school has a railway line a long
way down a very steep drop below the school yard boundary.

We put some coins on the rails for the first time and then
discovered that a whole fucking train was stopped right
where we had put the coins.

Turned out that they were just resleepering that line
and the train was just offloading the new sleepers.

We shat our pants about what we had done :-(

They
tooks us into the station office. We got a lecture, catch-and-release.

 

[Peeler]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:50:51 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
dennis@home to senile know-it-all Rodent Speed:
\"You really should stop commenting on things you know nothing about.\"
Message-ID: <pCVTC.283711$%L2.214599@fx40.am4>

 

[Fredxx]

On 21/03/2023 17:08, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:07:21 +0000, Ian Jackson
ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

In message <op.11uqo0s7mvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
CK1@nospam.com> writes
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:53:01 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 28/02/2023 11:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 21:57:43 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

I remember reading an ancient book on building your own radio, and they
mentioned regenerative receivers with only a single valve. Some would
emit back on the receiving antena, so they said don\'t do this, it is
illegal and nasty on your neighbours. Better use two valves, isolating
the oscillator from the antena.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit

Sounds like a good way to annoy a neighbour you hate and prevent them
listening to the radio station you don\'t like.

People got used to hearing squeals in the early evening when people were
tuning their radios in. Just as, later, people listening on long wave
got used to the whistling interference from 405 line TVs.

How come I remember a whine on LW and I was born in 1975?

Two things happened around those times.
405 was 10.125kHz. 625 timebase is 15.625kHz.
Droitwich moved from 200kHz to 198kHz.
Also, there would have been a lot of 405 sets still around.
I\'ll let you check whether a whistle was possible.

My mom liked a horrible smarmy AM station, WSMB at 1350 KHz. 1350 is
3x 455 KHz and the high-side LO is 4x 455. There was a constant
annoying background whistle. Maybe she couldn\'t hear it, but I could.

Exact multiples of 455kHz would at most create a motor boating or
undulating volume through a slowly changing demodulated DC component. I
can only assume her IF was not at 455kHz?

 

[rbowman]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:50:51 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

We put some coins on the rails for the first time and then discovered
that a whole fucking train was stopped right where we had put the coins.

When my father was a kid there was a trolley line that went out to an
amusement park. That was a common ploy to encourage weekend ridership on
the street cars. The kids would amuse themselves by greasing the rails on
a slight incline. The trolleys didn\'t have the sand dispensers that were
common on locomotives so the conductor would have to get out with a
shovel.

 

[Max Demian]

On 21/03/2023 19:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 23:14:56 -0000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk
wrote:
On 16/03/2023 19:51, charles wrote:

Trains run on private tracks and make their own rules

More to the point, railway tracks are normally fenced off and it is
illegal for the public to access them except at level crossings

A law to prevent you hurting yourself is silly.

Unlike
roads, no one without specific authorisation should be on the tracks at
all, so trains should not need to stop suddenly.

And cars crossing never break down.

Just put it in first gear and crank the starter. Hang on, that won\'t
work with modern cars as you can only operate the starter in neutral.

Another time you need to start in gear is if the clutch cable breaks and
you want to start and do clutchless gear changes. (MK1 Escorts were good
at that.)

--
Max Demian

 

[Max Demian]

On 21/03/2023 21:53, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:04:15 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 23:14:56 -0000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:

More to the point, railway tracks are normally fenced off and it is
illegal for the public to access them except at level crossings

A law to prevent you hurting yourself is silly.

Of course we all went on the tracks as kids.

I got busted for putting coins on a track to be smashed flat. They
tooks us into the station office. We got a lecture, catch-and-release.

They should have fined you forty shillings. Taken from your pocket money.

--
Max Demian

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Mar 2023 15:32:30 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> When my father was a kid

Oh, no!!! The senile shit starts again...

--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:43:46 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 21/03/2023 19:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 23:14:56 -0000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk
wrote:
On 16/03/2023 19:51, charles wrote:

Trains run on private tracks and make their own rules

More to the point, railway tracks are normally fenced off and it is
illegal for the public to access them except at level crossings

A law to prevent you hurting yourself is silly.

Unlike
roads, no one without specific authorisation should be on the tracks at
all, so trains should not need to stop suddenly.

And cars crossing never break down.

Just put it in first gear and crank the starter. Hang on, that won\'t
work with modern cars as you can only operate the starter in neutral.

My MG Midget lost its hydraulic clutch way up on Mount Tamalpias. I
had to drive all the way home, across the Golden Gate Bridge and into
the city, with no clutch. Every stop, I put it in 1st gear and started
it, and hot shifted after that. My Filipino gf was impressed that I
got her home alive.

Given a working clutch, one person alone could push-start a Midget or
a Sprite. A couple of husky guys could pick up either end and walk it
out of sand or whatever.

I drove the Midget nonstop from New Orleans to Aspen in the winter. We
couldn\'t use the heater because it cooled off the engine too much.

They were primitive, barbaric, dangerous, leaky, unreliable, and great
fun.

Another time you need to start in gear is if the clutch cable breaks and
you want to start and do clutchless gear changes. (MK1 Escorts were good
at that.)

 

[Peeler]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:43:46 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

Just put it in first gear and crank the starter. Hang on, that won\'t
work with modern cars as you can only operate the starter in neutral.

Another time you need to start in gear is if the clutch cable breaks and
you want to start and do clutchless gear changes. (MK1 Escorts were good
at that.)

And now say \"thank you\" to the troll that he offered you yet another
opportunity to keep feeding him to your senile heart\'s content, you
subnormal troll-feeding senile idiot!

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/03/2023 17:15, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:43:46 +0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 21/03/2023 19:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 23:14:56 -0000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk
wrote:
On 16/03/2023 19:51, charles wrote:

Trains run on private tracks and make their own rules

More to the point, railway tracks are normally fenced off and it is
illegal for the public to access them except at level crossings

A law to prevent you hurting yourself is silly.

Unlike
roads, no one without specific authorisation should be on the tracks at
all, so trains should not need to stop suddenly.

And cars crossing never break down.

Just put it in first gear and crank the starter. Hang on, that won\'t
work with modern cars as you can only operate the starter in neutral.

My MG Midget lost its hydraulic clutch way up on Mount Tamalpias. I
had to drive all the way home, across the Golden Gate Bridge and into
the city, with no clutch. Every stop, I put it in 1st gear and started
it, and hot shifted after that. My Filipino gf was impressed that I
got her home alive.

Given a working clutch, one person alone could push-start a Midget or
a Sprite. A couple of husky guys could pick up either end and walk it
out of sand or whatever.

I drove the Midget nonstop from New Orleans to Aspen in the winter. We
couldn\'t use the heater because it cooled off the engine too much.

They were primitive, barbaric, dangerous, leaky, unreliable, and great
fun.

Mine were pretty reliable, But then I spent most saturdays fixing them.

The worst drive was my Spitfire when the additional power brake unit
fractured a brake pipe and I had to drive it across England with no foot
brakes and people overtaking me cutting in and slamming on their brakes.
All I had was the hand brake.

Another time you need to start in gear is if the clutch cable breaks and
you want to start and do clutchless gear changes. (MK1 Escorts were good
at that.)

I had to start in gear the other year. clutch plate frozen to flywheel.
once started slam on brakes and clutch.


--
Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle
more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
that they are dead.
Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-02-28 19:19, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 2/28/23 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

[snip]

I had a turntable that had a plastic stroboscopic disk mounted on it to
dial in the speed. It was strictly 33 rpm though. iirc the platter was
aluminum but it was quite heavy.

I\'ve got a direct drive quartz controlled turntable that can be set to
exactly 33.33 +- a bit if you dial it in.

The old turntable my father had had 4 speeds: 78, 45, 33-1/3, 16-2/3. He
said that last one was used for educational materials.

We had a turntable like that, and we had a one 16 rpm disk. I liked that
disk, it had a collection of worthy classicals, like \"In a Persian market\".

Unfortunately, the thing broke down in storage: the rubber parts
corroded, got sticky. And one metal + rubber disk got a dent where the
motor spindle was applied.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-02-28 12:47, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 12:24:52 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 18/02/2023 20:21, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Well, hopefully you are alert and keeping distances and you see the
danger with ample time 😂

Completely impractical if the danger is hidden until you get there.
Children

Should know better.  You couldn\'t have stopped.  Remove them form the
gene pool.

and animals dashing across the road.

I did once do an emergency stop for a dog.  The girl chasing after it
was very thankful.

wheel smashing potholes
full of water that the council can\'t afford to fix because they spent
the budget on speed cameras sleeping policemen and totally unnecessary
traffic lights.

Potholes have the same effect as speedbumps, why not combine the two ideas?

Old truck brake drums dropped from pedestrian bridges by
bored teenagers.

At the school I worked at, someone dropped a small rock in front of a
truck from a bridge.  The driver got out, chased them, dragged them to
the school, and made them pay for the windscreen.

He was lucky. Here the last one I heard, died. Or the other person in
the other front seat.

The list of \'stuff that you can hit that wasn\'t there last time you
looked\' is endless.

I once came across a fork in the road.  No, an actual fork.  A garden
fork.  I of course stopped and gave it a good home!

Maintaining idealised safe distances is an idea only people who don\'t
really do much driving believe in.

It\'s the morons that join these silly OCD clubs like the Institute of
Advanced Motoring.  They actually believe you should always go exactly
at the speed limit.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-02-28 12:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 13:09:16 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-02-19 13:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/02/2023 20:21, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Well, hopefully you are alert and keeping distances and you see the
danger with ample time 😂

Completely impractical if the danger is hidden until you get there.
Children and animals dashing across the road. wheel smashing potholes
full of water that the council can\'t afford to fix because they spent
the budget on speed cameras sleeping policemen and totally unnecessary
traffic lights. Old truck brake drums dropped from pedestrian bridges by
bored teenagers.

In that case, I won\'t be able to hit the blinkers, either.

I never do, I leave it up to the guy behind me to see the problem.  The
back of my car is stronger then the front of his.

I was once in the middle of a set of three cars on a country road.  The
woman in front decided to brake suddenly and turn right without
indicating.  I had ABS and stopped rather abruptly.  The person behind
had an old car without ABS and skidded, making a very loud screeching
noise.  The woman in front got out and had a go at me for driving too
close.  I said \"I stopped, he\'s the one that skidded, and see that
orange light on the corner of your car, use it.  If women are to drive
motor vehicles, they should learn how to operate one correctly.\"  The
last part I quoted from Harry Enfield, she didn\'t get it.

The list of \'stuff that you can hit that wasn\'t there last time you
looked\' is endless.

Maintaining idealised safe distances is an idea only people who don\'t
really do much driving believe in.

Tell that to the regulators.

Regulators of what?  I\'ve never been done for driving at the wrong
distance.  That would be far too difficult for the thicko pigs to work out.

Writers of laws and regulations.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-02-28 12:39, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 18:59:50 -0000, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid
wrote:

On 2/17/23 16:21, Carlos E.R. wrote:

[snip]

It is now a legal and recognised sign to following drivers, on a fast
road, such as a motorway or dual-carriageway, that you are approaching
standing traffic and slowing quickly to a stop. As such it needs to be
activated quickly and without having to take your eyes off the road.

I think that the legal way to do it here is touch the brake lightly
several times to make the red lights blink.

\"touch the brake lightly\" when you need to do it hard?

Tapping the brake means \"there\'s a cop ahead, do not overtake me\".

Different country, different language

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Peeler]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 20:44:03 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> Writers of laws and regulations.

Keep your sick shit out of these ngs finally, you subnormal troll-feeding
senile cretin!