When is the Covid war over?

[Ricky C]

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:31:54 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 00:06:45 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 3:08:56 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

It's causing very few problems. The lockdown is causing an order of magnitude more problems.

Well, DUH. The worldwide cases are about a million, so under 0.1% of the population,
and the lockdown is the way we keep it from become 50%.

It's nothing like 50%, only 4% of people getting it will die. And that's including the infirm. Since very few healthy people die of it, it's not really a big problem is it?

So you see this as a way to rid the world of the sick and infirm? I think YOU are the sick one.

Many old people have years to live yet and wish to enjoy those years, not as a cripple in a hospital bed for weeks or months. None of their loved ones want to see them die.

The CORRECT

Using capital letters indicates you're a moron. Do you yell at people in real life when you're speaking?

It indicates EMPHASIS, which doesn't really help when trying to explain something a person is not going to understand anyway.

way to deal with a problem like this is to keep the case count low until a vaccine is available,
or some other (reliable, convenient) treatment can be given on an outpatient basis.

Would you do that with the flu? No? Why this then? It's not the end of the world if a small percentage die.

It IS the end of the world for them. People of all ages die from this disease and while having preexisting conditions don't help, it does kill only the already sick. Perfectly healthy people of all ages die of this disease and it's a LOT more than would die of the flu.

The lockdown, at only one order of magnitude, is the better solution when
a non-lockdown quickly grows the problem two or three orders of magnitude.

The lockdown is making everyone bankrupt. You can't just make 90% of us stop working and expect the world to keep running.

Seems to be going along ok. If people like you would take this more seriously, the numbers would drop faster and we could get out of lockdown much faster. But clearly people are not taking it seriously enough. Typical of those who have a more limited understanding of the world we live in.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 11:29:31 AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 04 Apr 2020 19:36:39 +0100, Ricky C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 2:09:57 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I would never go to a hospital for anything other than a broken bone. They're fucking useless at curing anything, and chances are you'll catch something else.

Once this disease gets rolling, you won't have much choice but to avoid hospitals. There won't be a bed for you.

As I just sad if you were listening, they can't fix it anyway. Best chance is to rest in bed and let your own body cure it.

That might work until your lungs start failing. In hospital they can give you oxygen, and if that isn't enough, stick you on a ventilator. That still may not save you, but it seems to save about half of the people who get that bad.

In places where the hospitals get over-loaded the death rate roughly doubles.

And people should pay to go to hospital, that would sort out the overcrowding. In times of a pandemic, just shove the entry fee up a bit. Supply and demand innit?

Indeed. Then instead of the death rate being a factor of age it will be a factor of wealth. Yup, very Amurican.

Poor folk don't help society.

But if they get sufficiently badly treated, they revolt and dismantle the society that wasn't helping them. The new society that emerges from the rubble is rarely all that much better than the one that got ripped apart, but the people who were doing well under the old regime do a lot worse under the new one.

It pays to look after poor folk. The US hasn't been treating them quite badly enough - yet - to provoke a revolt, but the mishandling of the Covid-19 epidemic does seem to be killing a lot more people - many of them poor - than it should.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney