What happens to old CRT monitors?

On Mar 17, 11:23 pm, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away?  The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?  The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

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In our area, you can take monitors, etc to Trimble Salvage and get $5
to $8 each.

However, if you toss it into the trash and it's found, you can receive
a $500 fine.

It's my understanding the salvage people do something to purge the
phosphor and then recycle the materials.
 
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On Mar 18, 5:38 am, baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
Mike Tomlinson Inscribed thus:



What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up
in his white van to take them away?  The company I work for has
just got rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?  The tube
has all sorts of toxic nasties in it.

If they are anything like our disposal people they get crushed and
the glass gets recycled.  All the metal is recovered and recycled
too.

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Best Regards:
Baron.

"..they all get crushed.." and we all know how painful that can be.
;)
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Yes very painful...

Actually a guy who used to work at the crushing mill lives round the
corner from me. He got trapped by one of the three crusher balls and
lost both his legs.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
On Mar 18, 2:54 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
Robert Macy Inscribed thus:





On Mar 18, 5:38 am, baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
Mike Tomlinson Inscribed thus:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up
in his white van to take them away?  The company I work for has
just got rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?  The tube
has all sorts of toxic nasties in it.

If they are anything like our disposal people they get crushed and
the glass gets recycled.  All the metal is recovered and recycled
too.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

"..they all get crushed.." and we all know how painful that can be.
;)

Yes very painful...

Actually a guy who used to work at the crushing mill lives round the
corner from me.  He got trapped by one of the three crusher balls and
lost both his legs.

--
Best Regards:
                     Baron.
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Horrible. My apologies.
 
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:38:15 -0000, Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid>
wrote:

In article <T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan wrote:
What's to recycle?

Quite a lot of glass, for one thing.

A former colleague told me of an interesting experience he'd had in a
former life (job) getting rid of a decommissioned mainframe. He had all
sorts of quotes from people wanting to charge him for disposing of the
kit, and a local scrap dealer offering to /pay/ him for it. It turned
out that mainframes of that age had enough gold in their contacts for
it to be worth recovering it (by dissolving it in cyanide, I gather --
don't stand downwind!). The cabinets would have been good for scrap
metal, the rest was probably landfill.
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There's a garden near here which has an imitation Stonehenge made of
mainframe cases

True about the gold, and the monitors going overseas for "recycling"

When a private school near where I used to live replaced its computers
they piled the old ones up in the garden and had a bonfire. You could
smell it for miles.

Do NOT try this at home
 
You'd think that, given the high prices of gold and copper, it would be
profitable to recycle monitors.
 
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in
news:hnvt6m$thc$1@news.eternal-september.org:

You'd think that, given the high prices of gold and copper, it would be
profitable to recycle monitors.
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Labor cost is probably the reason.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
You'd think that, given the high prices of gold and copper,
it would be profitable to recycle monitors.

Labor cost is probably the reason.
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Well, we've seen a lot of electronic equipment shipped off to third-world
countries for recycling.
 
On Mar 17, 11:23 pm, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away?  The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?  The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

--
(\__/)  
(='.'=)  Bunny says Windows 7 is Vi$ta reloaded.
(")_(")  http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png
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Pretty much everything can be salvage from most electronics, if you do
it correctly.

Plastic can be reground and reused
So can glass
Some chips and expensive components are extracted and reused
Components containing high amounts of precious metals or pure metals
are removed for separate recycling
Remaining boards and components can usually be ground up to remove
remaining metals through various processes
Substrate material left after extracting the metals can be remade into
all sorts of stuff
 
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in
news:hnvv60$bdd$1@news.eternal-september.org:

You'd think that, given the high prices of gold and copper,
it would be profitable to recycle monitors.

Labor cost is probably the reason.

Well, we've seen a lot of electronic equipment shipped off to third-world
countries for recycling.



yes,but then you add handling and shipping costs....
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Heh,some folks would bitch about us exporting our pollution and wastes to
poor nations...

my county has a recycle program for used electronics;
http://www.seminolecountyfl.gov/envsrvs/solidwaste/electronics.asp

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
Hi!

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?
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They can be recycled.

Hewlett Packard once had a section of their web site devoted to a tour
of their recycling facility. In it, they showed people dismantling
laptops and other things.

The details are fuzzy in my memory, but they shredded and ground
circuit boards (with components) into a fine substance that was
screened to split it out. Plastics were smelted. I don't know what
happened to CRT and other glass.

William
 
Hi!

If you put your CRT monitor under your pillow the CRT Fairy will
take it and leave a shiny new penny.
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I was hoping for a shiny new flat panel, ya know?

I didn't sleep well and all I got was a crick in my neck and a
headache. <g>

William
 
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On Mar 18, 2:54 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
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On Mar 18, 5:38 am, baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net
wrote:
Mike Tomlinson Inscribed thus:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns
up in his white van to take them away?  The company I work for
has just got rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?  The tube
has all sorts of toxic nasties in it.

If they are anything like our disposal people they get crushed and
the glass gets recycled.  All the metal is recovered and recycled
too.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

"..they all get crushed.." and we all know how painful that can be.
;)

Yes very painful...

Actually a guy who used to work at the crushing mill lives round the
corner from me.  He got trapped by one of the three crusher balls and
lost both his legs.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Horrible. My apologies.
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No apology needed. The guy freely admits that it was his own fault for
not making sure the machine was isolated and made safe before working
on it.

Just to give you an idea of the guys nature, he has a pair of prosthetic
legs that are hollow at the bottom, he hides his girlfriend's weed in
them. His standing joke is "I've weed in my legs" !

He's a really nice guy.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
mm wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:58:43 GMT, Chris Whelan
cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:23:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.
What's to recycle?

Chris

What I'd like to konw about is this story of lead and it poisoning the
earth. I thought 99% of the lead waa mixed with the glass in the
front of the CRT and the only part that could leach out is a small
part along the surface. So what's the danger?
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Lead in the ground is not a problem (I mean, that's where is comes from!)
It is however a problem in waterways.
I was advised of this whilst discussing the amount of lead I was
blasting into the countryside last time I went shooting (shotgun/clays).
 
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:23:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.
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They get sent to CRT Heaven (seriously).
<http://www.crtheaven.com>
<http://www.andelaproducts.com/products/crt.html>
<http://www.mmhrecsys.co.uk/crt_recycling/>
<http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/290431256/Spent_TV_Monitor_CRT_Recycling_Equipment.html>
<http://www.bts-recycling-equipment.com/produkte/produkte.php>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHSp1dL6L-o&feature=related>
The recycling machinery biz is big biz.

There are several videos on YouTube showing the process:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8VfcmKDLiw>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPx09iB7R04>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfWhfa0PbkU>

Hmmm... my e-Waste photos are getting a bit old:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/e-waste/>

Our government is here to help:
<http://www.epa.gov/osw/hazard/recycling/electron/>

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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
In article <1vi8q5tkhjqkth81um3cfn2r139nk28dum@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com> writes

[loadsa links]

Thanks Jeff. The CRT Angel (self-contained CRT recycling unit) was
especially interesting.

This is how to deal with a balky PC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjHOUonZO6U&NR=1


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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:41:02 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote:

In article <1vi8q5tkhjqkth81um3cfn2r139nk28dum@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann
jeffl@cruzio.com> writes

[loadsa links]

Thanks Jeff. The CRT Angel (self-contained CRT recycling unit) was
especially interesting.

This is how to deal with a balky PC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjHOUonZO6U&NR=1
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Impressive!

Hang on there are some metal bits left over, this is how to deal with
them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMtgh2cwSrg
 
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:31:10 +0000
Albert Ross <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote:

Hang on there are some metal bits left over, this is how to deal with
them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMtgh2cwSrg
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I think this one is running a bit better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnnvH5_Y0Eo&NR=1
 
California spent a bundle of the smoking tax money on
commercials instead of the health care they promised the
money would be spent on. One of the funnier ones asked
the tobacco companies how they covered up evidence of
wrong doing. "You know, those office shredders just aren't
up to the task of shredding thousands of documents."

Then proceeded to throw laptops, PC desk tops and finally
a complete 4-drawer filing cabinet through truck mounted
wood chipper.

Was quite the fun thing to watch even if it was fake. ;-)

Jeff


--
“Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity.”
Frank Leahy, Head coach, Notre Dame 1941-1954

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:58:33 -0500, Jeffrey D Angus
<jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Then proceeded to throw laptops, PC desk tops and finally
a complete 4-drawer filing cabinet through truck mounted
wood chipper.
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About 20 years ago, the landlord in my office building was running an
office cleaning company[1] with a paper shredder sideline. The paper
shredder was about the size of a large dumpster. Every day, a pickup
truck load of paper would arrive and get fed to the hungry monster,
producing mountains of confetti and dust. Dust and debris would also
fall from the ceiling as my office shook and rattled from the
vibrations. This went on for about 6 months until someone
accidentally fed it the hand truck used to load the paper. I would
normally expect the shredder to just stop or to disassemble itself,
but that's not what happened. The interlocking teeth froze, the
overload switch failed, which caused the huge motor to rip away from
its mountings, smash through the side of the shredder, smash through a
decorative wood wall, and bounce off the landlords wife's car. That
was followed by a dumpster full of paper confetti initially all over
the parking lot, and later all over the offices, nearby roadway,
neighbors apartments, etc. It took about 3 full days for a crew to
clean up the mess. Sorry, but I was gone and didn't take any photos.
A few weeks later, the landlord sold the shredding business to someone
else, who still run it out of an industrial park today.


[1] My office was required to have the curtains closed because it
created a bad impression for the office cleaning service.

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# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
 
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:23:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.
Click to expand...
Domestic CRTs get put in wheelie bin and go to landfill.

Same as all those ECO friendly bulbs that contain mercury.

OK a few do get taken to the tip. CRTs/electronics go in a container.
They have a sealed "coffin" with a tube sized airlock for tubes. The
last time I took some they seemed quite surprised, I think most people
just break them to fit the wheelie bin. I'm about to see they how get
on with 3 ECO bulbs. I've got 2 5ft tubes, a car battery, 10L engine
oil, 3 oil filters, 2 14" CRTs, 1L brake fluid to go too, bet I have
to sign for every item in triplicate due to toxic nature of them.

Industry has larger batch volume, hard to hide, more likely to be
traced to source and the penalties make it worth doing the right thing
with them.
--
Peter Hill
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Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
 
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