What happens to old CRT monitors?

[Mike Tomlinson]

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

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[Chris Whelan]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:23:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

What's to recycle?

Chris

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Remove prejudice to reply.

 

[Mike Tomlinson]

In article <T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan <cawhelan@pr
ejudicentlworld.com> writes

What's to recycle?

Plastic case? I also seem to remember that the tube electron guns
contain a small amount of precious metal and the "recyclers" send them
out to the third world where the tube necks are broken and the guns
extracted, then the rest is abandoned.

--
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[Sylvia Else]

On 18/03/2010 7:07 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

In article<T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan<cawhelan@pr
ejudicentlworld.com> writes

What's to recycle?

Plastic case? I also seem to remember that the tube electron guns
contain a small amount of precious metal and the "recyclers" send them
out to the third world where the tube necks are broken and the guns
extracted, then the rest is abandoned.

Sounds like more trouble than it's worth, literally.

Sylvia.

 

[mm]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:58:43 GMT, Chris Whelan
<cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:23:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

What's to recycle?

Chris

What I'd like to konw about is this story of lead and it poisoning the
earth. I thought 99% of the lead waa mixed with the glass in the
front of the CRT and the only part that could leach out is a small
part along the surface. So what's the danger?

 

[Chris Whelan]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:07:45 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

In article <T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan <cawhelan@pr
ejudicentlworld.com> writes

What's to recycle?

Plastic case? I also seem to remember that the tube electron guns
contain a small amount of precious metal and the "recyclers" send them
out to the third world where the tube necks are broken and the guns
extracted, then the rest is abandoned.

That's a lot of weight to ship half way around the world for a very small
return.

I really doubt that many CRT's are not just sent to land fill.

Chris

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Remove prejudice to reply.

 

[Daniel James]

In article <T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan wrote:

What's to recycle?

Quite a lot of glass, for one thing.

A former colleague told me of an interesting experience he'd had in a
former life (job) getting rid of a decommissioned mainframe. He had all
sorts of quotes from people wanting to charge him for disposing of the
kit, and a local scrap dealer offering to /pay/ him for it. It turned
out that mainframes of that age had enough gold in their contacts for
it to be worth recovering it (by dissolving it in cyanide, I gather --
don't stand downwind!). The cabinets would have been good for scrap
metal, the rest was probably landfill.

Cheers,
Daniel.

 

[Les Matthew]

On 18/03/2010 06:23, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

Deflection coils around the neck of the tube have copper wire. Mains
transformer, flyback transformer also full of copper wire.

les.

 

[Chronos]

Chris Whelan wrote:

What's to recycle?

The yoke mainly, copper prices being what they are. Apart from that,
bugger all.
--
Chronos

 

[Jim Yanik]

Chris Whelan <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote in
news:Cvlon.355167$Np2.204346@newsfe24.ams2:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:07:45 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

In article <T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan
cawhelan@pr ejudicentlworld.com> writes

What's to recycle?

Plastic case? I also seem to remember that the tube electron guns
contain a small amount of precious metal and the "recyclers" send
them out to the third world where the tube necks are broken and the
guns extracted, then the rest is abandoned.

That's a lot of weight to ship half way around the world for a very
small return.

I really doubt that many CRT's are not just sent to land fill.

Chris

I know Tektronix used to recycle old CRTs that were returned from TEK
service centers;they removed the guns,refurbished them,saved the faceplates
and refurbished them,saved quite a bit of money doing this.

I believe my local landfill disassembles the CRT TVs and monitors,and sends
the PCBs to a recycler,and the CRTs go elsewhere for crushing and the glass
gets reused.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

 

[Raj Kundra]

"Les Matthew" <lesmcdm@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hnsrdt$dum$1@news.eternal-september.org...

On 18/03/2010 06:23, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

Front Glass (viewing area) which could be up to 1" thick on some large
models is very high in lead contents.

Until recent EU legislation on lead crystal processing: these front bits
were sliced and shipped to factories in Germany.

 

[baron]

Mike Tomlinson Inscribed thus:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has
all sorts of toxic nasties in it.

If they are anything like our disposal people they get crushed and the
glass gets recycled. All the metal is recovered and recycled too.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[baron]

mm Inscribed thus:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:58:43 GMT, Chris Whelan
cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:23:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up
in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just
got rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has
all sorts of toxic nasties in it.

What's to recycle?

Chris

What I'd like to konw about is this story of lead and it poisoning the
earth. I thought 99% of the lead waa mixed with the glass in the
front of the CRT and the only part that could leach out is a small
part along the surface. So what's the danger?

The crushed glass (cullet) gets mixed with fresh silica and melted down
to produce "Milk Bottles", jars and containers among other things.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[baron]

Daniel James Inscribed thus:

In article <T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan wrote:
What's to recycle?

Quite a lot of glass, for one thing.

A former colleague told me of an interesting experience he'd had in a
former life (job) getting rid of a decommissioned mainframe. He had
all sorts of quotes from people wanting to charge him for disposing of
the kit, and a local scrap dealer offering to /pay/ him for it. It
turned out that mainframes of that age had enough gold in their
contacts for it to be worth recovering it (by dissolving it in
cyanide, I gather -- don't stand downwind!). The cabinets would have
been good for scrap metal, the rest was probably landfill.

Cheers,
Daniel.

I used to know a guy that went around buying up the old Strowger
telephone exchanges, just for the precious metal, platinum, used for
the contacts and gold plating. He extracted the contacts and other
stuff he wanted then sold the remainder for scrap metal. He made a lot
of money doing that.


--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[b]

On Mar 18, 1:20 pm, "Raj Kundra" <raj@REM0VE
THISkundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

"Les Matthew" <lesm...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message

news:hnsrdt$dum$1@news.eternal-september.org...

On 18/03/2010 06:23, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away?  The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?  The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

Front Glass (viewing area) which could be up to 1" thick on some large
models is very high in lead contents.

Until recent EU legislation on lead crystal processing: these front bits
were sliced and shipped to factories in Germany.
see:

http://www.ban.org/ban_news/2009/091228_holiday_ewaste_beware_fake_recyclers.html

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/toxics/how-your-tv-could-end-nigeria-recycling-20090218

Apparently there's even a town called 'HP Laserjet' because of the
accumulated printers dumped by the west:
http://www.up.edu.pe/serv/boletin/01i.php?pantalla=noticia&id=637&bolnum_key=90&serv_key=13

 

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:23:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk>wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has all
sorts of toxic nasties in it.

If you put your CRT monitor under your pillow the CRT Fairy will take
it and leave a shiny new penny.

 

[Jim Yanik]

"Raj Kundra" <raj@REM0VE THISkundracomputers.co.uk> wrote in
news:fUoon.51298$Ym4.3389@text.news.virginmedia.com:

"Les Matthew" <lesmcdm@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hnsrdt$dum$1@news.eternal-september.org...
On 18/03/2010 06:23, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up
in his white van to take them away? The company I work for has just
got rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill? The tube has
all sorts of toxic nasties in it.




Front Glass (viewing area) which could be up to 1" thick on some large
models is very high in lead contents.

Until recent EU legislation on lead crystal processing: these front
bits were sliced and shipped to factories in Germany.

so now what do they do with the leaded glass?
And how many Germans lost jobs from that move?



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

 

[D Yuniskis]

Hi Sylvia,

Sylvia Else wrote:

On 18/03/2010 7:07 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article<T2lon.2774$P_5.412@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan<cawhelan@pr
ejudicentlworld.com> writes

What's to recycle?

Plastic case? I also seem to remember that the tube electron guns
contain a small amount of precious metal and the "recyclers" send them
out to the third world where the tube necks are broken and the guns
extracted, then the rest is abandoned.

Sounds like more trouble than it's worth, literally.

Depends on the particular economies involved.

Often, there is little/no cost of *acquiring* the "materials";
folks "give them" to disposal companies/sites. A local
non-profit (here) probably processes a few thousand a year?
(They *charge* to dispose of TV's, though, as TV's are
often harder to recycle -- wooden enclosures, etc.)

Most are shipped to places like Mexico where they are
disassembled and recycled at a lower level. E.g., yokes
are almost pure copper, glass can be ground up and mixed
in asphalt for new roadways, etc.

I think even "empty containers" going back to the far east
are often filled with "junk" like this (since the container
has to get back there anyway!)

I think the basic unspoken assumption is "better discarded
on THEIR soil than on OURS" :-/

 

[Robert Macy]

On Mar 18, 1:38 am, Daniel James <dan...@me.invalid> wrote:

In article <T2lon.2774$P_5....@newsfe15.ams2>, Chris Whelan wrote:
What's to recycle?

Quite a lot of glass, for one thing.

A former colleague told me of an interesting experience he'd had in a
former life (job) getting rid of a decommissioned mainframe. He had all
sorts of quotes from people wanting to charge him for disposing of the
kit, and a local scrap dealer offering to /pay/ him for it. It turned
out that mainframes of that age had enough gold in their contacts for
it to be worth recovering it (by dissolving it in cyanide, I gather --
don't stand downwind!). The cabinets would have been good for scrap
metal, the rest was probably landfill.

Cheers,
 Daniel.

the Zilog Development system has over $320 of gold in it.

 

[Robert Macy]

On Mar 18, 5:38 am, baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Mike Tomlinson Inscribed thus:



What happens to old CRT monitors when the PC disposal man turns up in
his white van to take them away?  The company I work for has just got
rid of a huge quantity of monitors.

Surely they do get recycled somehow or is it landfill?  The tube has
all sorts of toxic nasties in it.

If they are anything like our disposal people they get crushed and the
glass gets recycled.  All the metal is recovered and recycled too.

--
Best Regards:
                Baron.

"..they all get crushed.." and we all know how painful that can be.