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On 30/05/2023 16:41, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-30, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed
to eliminate TB. That\'s in the Herriot books and the PBS series.
Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It\'s mostly passed by
drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected
milk.
\"The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may
include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis,
optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders
collectively known as neurobrucellosis.\"
No, thanks.
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
The lesson from that novel would be that a disability can be cured by a
magic garden.
It\'s been a long time since I read \"The Secret Garden\", but wasn\'t
it the case that the boy who was cured by the \"magic\" garden in
fact wasn\'t disabled at all? Purely psychosomatic.
Could make people (i.e. the child readers) think that all similar
disabilities are psychosomatic.
On 30/05/2023 17:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 16:36, Max Demian wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
The lesson from that novel would be that a disability can be cured by
a magic garden.
Try reading it.
The lesson is that snoflakes are always whining and encouraging others
to whine even when there is nothing wrong
TB was a major cause of young death - half the bloody Romantics died
of it.
Yes, TB was a very romantic disease.
What an unbelievably stupid comment.
\"Romantic\" as in \"common in romances\" i.e. stories.
On 30/05/2023 17:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 16:36, Max Demian wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
The lesson from that novel would be that a disability can be cured by
a magic garden.
Try reading it.
The lesson is that snoflakes are always whining and encouraging others
to whine even when there is nothing wrong
TB was a major cause of young death - half the bloody Romantics died
of it.
Yes, TB was a very romantic disease.
What an unbelievably stupid comment.
\"Romantic\" as in \"common in romances\" i.e. stories.
That is not what \'Romantic\' means, Humpty Dumpty.
On 2023-05-31, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 17:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 16:36, Max Demian wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
The lesson from that novel would be that a disability can be cured by
a magic garden.
Try reading it.
The lesson is that snoflakes are always whining and encouraging others
to whine even when there is nothing wrong
TB was a major cause of young death - half the bloody Romantics died
of it.
Yes, TB was a very romantic disease.
What an unbelievably stupid comment.
\"Romantic\" as in \"common in romances\" i.e. stories.
\"Romantic\" as in:
\"Romanticism, first defined as an aesthetic in literary criticism around
1800, gained momentum as an artistic movement in France and Britain in
the early decades of the nineteenth century and flourished until
mid-century.\"
Byron, Shelley, Keats, Blake
On 30/05/2023 18:04, Fredxx wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
TB was a major cause of young death - half the bloody Romantics died
of it.
Women would fall pregnant 10-12 times, if they survived, and be happy
to see 4-5 live to teenage years. And maybe two to three beyond 30,.
Once again you spout unadulterated crap. Research your claims before
engaging hand to keyboard.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy
gives an overview where death in infancy was common place, but as soon
as you had attained age of 15+ life expectancy would be good and
generally in the 50s. And That would be the mean age!
Yes, it\'s a common idea that, e.g. stoneagers didn\'t live past their
twenties. I suppose it\'s due to a sentimental attachment to childhood.
You might as well say that fish fry only live a few hours as most are
gulped up as soon as they hatch.
I don\'t recall I ever did. As the youngest in the family with fairlyOn 2023-05-31, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 16:41, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-30, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed
to eliminate TB. That\'s in the Herriot books and the PBS series.
Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It\'s mostly passed by
drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected
milk.
\"The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may
include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis,
optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders
collectively known as neurobrucellosis.\"
No, thanks.
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
The lesson from that novel would be that a disability can be cured by a
magic garden.
It\'s been a long time since I read \"The Secret Garden\", but wasn\'t
it the case that the boy who was cured by the \"magic\" garden in
fact wasn\'t disabled at all? Purely psychosomatic.
Could make people (i.e. the child readers) think that all similar
disabilities are psychosomatic.
Children think Santa Claus is real.
Although an alarming number do not, and most people have at least oneEventually most of us grow up.
On Mon, 29 May 2023 16:42:25 -0000 (UTC), Bev <no...@forme.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 09:00:41 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:28:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:22, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:56:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:
TNP does like to be quite an objectionable person, and has decided he has killfiled me so will miss this. As an aside why do those who \'Plonk\' think it has any effect on the poster?
Please stay where you are and we\'ll all be happy.
Sorry to disagree here but... are you sure you couldn\'t find a home for himsomewhere in your rather large \'forgotten areas\'. I for one would be quite happy for him to find a new home where he can continue to expound his vast \'knowledge\' to the few who still believe he has great knowledge and experience in just about anything you can name.
The USA is so big and diverse it\'s hard for even a native to grasp it all..
On 31/05/2023 11:15, Slevin wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
They made polenta from other stuff, like chestnuts or barley. You
don\'t need cornmeal to make mush. I\'m about to sit down to a bowl
of oat mush.
It depends on what the meaning of the word âpolentaâ is.
Authentic polenta is made from cornmeal.
Bollocks
\"As it is known today, polenta derives from earlier forms of grain mush
(known as puls or pulmentum in Latin) that were commonly eaten since
Roman times. Before the introduction of corn (maize) from America in the
16th century, polenta was made from starchy ingredients like farro,
chestnut flour, millet, spelt, and chickpeas.
In Yemen, polenta is primarily prepared from either sorghum meal or
barley-meal with an addition of animal fat and made into a thick paste,
and is known locally as ʿaṣīd. It is often served in a bowl where soup
broth is added as a viand, and eaten with one\'s fingers. \"
Wiki
In short its a pretty generic term of a starchy sort of porridge. In
(south) Africa its called \'mealie meal\' and is now almost exclusively
maize, but used to be millet.
Like most Americans, you think the world begins and ends in the USA
On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice
was published. About half of newborns didn\'t survive to 5.
But they weren\'t killed by raw milk.
Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan?
google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk
Are you a raw milk fan?
On 31/05/2023 00:01, rbowman wrote:
You certainly seem to think the Falklands should be yours. I suppose as
the empire vanished you had to hold on to something for old times sake.
The Falklands have never belonged to anyone else, but Britain, the
Falkland islanders absolutely want to stay British, but Argentina, once
one of the wealthiest countries in the world after ceasing to be part of
Spain, has economic problems and its a convenient distraction for the
government there to claim it \'ought\' to be theirs, despite *never ever
having been so*.
Largely because there may well be oil and gas reserves under it.
Why don\'t you shut your fucking loudmouth and go an invade Cuba, where
probably the majority of the citizens would welcome being American,
having lost their love of Marxist austerity and Che Guevara?
On 31/05/2023 11:15, Slevin wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
They made polenta from other stuff, like chestnuts or barley. You
don\'t need cornmeal to make mush. I\'m about to sit down to a bowl
of oat mush.
It depends on what the meaning of the word polenta is.
Authentic polenta is made from cornmeal.
Bollocks
\"As it is known today, polenta derives from earlier forms of grain mush
(known as puls or pulmentum in Latin) that were commonly eaten since
Roman times. Before the introduction of corn (maize) from America in the
16th century, polenta was made from starchy ingredients like farro,
chestnut flour, millet, spelt, and chickpeas.
In Yemen, polenta is primarily prepared from either sorghum meal or
barley-meal with an addition of animal fat and made into a thick paste,
and is known locally as ?a??d. It is often served in a bowl where soup
broth is added as a viand, and eaten with one\'s fingers. \"
Wiki
In short its a pretty generic term of a starchy sort of porridge. In
(south) Africa its called \'mealie meal\' and is now almost exclusively
maize, but used to be millet.
Like most Americans, you think the world begins and ends in the USA
On 2023-05-31, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 16:41, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-30, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed
to eliminate TB. That\'s in the Herriot books and the PBS series.
Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It\'s mostly passed by
drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected
milk.
\"The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may
include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis,
optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders
collectively known as neurobrucellosis.\"
No, thanks.
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
The lesson from that novel would be that a disability can be cured by a
magic garden.
It\'s been a long time since I read \"The Secret Garden\", but wasn\'t
it the case that the boy who was cured by the \"magic\" garden in
fact wasn\'t disabled at all? Purely psychosomatic.
Could make people (i.e. the child readers) think that all similar
disabilities are psychosomatic.
Children think Santa Claus is real.
Eventually most of us grow up.
On 2023-05-31, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 17:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 16:36, Max Demian wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote:
In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it\'s shocking how usual death
was.
Christ how old are you? I was about age 7 when I read the saccharine
\'Secret Garden\' in which a girl is orphaned by her parents dying of
cholera.
The lesson from that novel would be that a disability can be cured by
a magic garden.
Try reading it.
The lesson is that snoflakes are always whining and encouraging others
to whine even when there is nothing wrong
TB was a major cause of young death - half the bloody Romantics died
of it.
Yes, TB was a very romantic disease.
What an unbelievably stupid comment.
\"Romantic\" as in \"common in romances\" i.e. stories.
\"Romantic\" as in:
\"Romanticism, first defined as an aesthetic in literary criticism around
1800, gained momentum as an artistic movement in France and Britain in
the early decades of the nineteenth century and flourished until
mid-century.\"
Byron, Shelley, Keats, Blake
On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice
was published. About half of newborns didn\'t survive to 5.
But they weren\'t killed by raw milk.
Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan?
google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk
Are you a raw milk fan?
I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour.
On 2023-05-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 17:27:19 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Every few years we make cheesecake. That\'s about all the cream cheese I
use.
I tried one of those hideous Jello productions once. After that I left
cheesecake making to the pros and even some of them aren\'t too good at it.
Jello? Who said anything about Jello? Cheesecake is, as they say,
easy as pie. Here\'s the recipe my husband uses. I think Mary Ellen
St. John is a relative of his.
Mary Ellen St John\'s Cream Cheese Pie
Crust:
1/4 pound butter, melted
16 graham cracker squares, coarsely crushed (1 square = 4 crackers)
1/4 cup brown sugar
Mix crust ingredients, press into 12\" glass pie plate. Blind bake
at 350 F for 8 minutes.
Filling:
1 pound cream cheese at room temperature
3/4 cup sugar
3 eggs well beaten
1 teaspoon vanilla
Mix filling ingredients with electric mixer until smooth.
Pour into prepared pie crust. Bake at 350 F for 20 minutes.
(Make sure center is firm.)
Topping:
1 pint sour cream
1/2 cup sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla
Mix topping ingredients and pour over baked pie. Return to
oven for 5-8 minutes at 350 F.
Chill pie before serving.
Note: 12\" pie plates are pretty rare. This also works in a 9x10\"
glass pan.
On 30/05/2023 18:20, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 18:05:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 17:59, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 16:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, John Larkin wrote:
On 29 May 2023 04:00:37 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 19:49:42 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?
You betcha...
https://sites.google.com/site/gotitsortd/kraft-mac-cheese-ingredients
\"Kraft Macaroni and Cheese cheese sauce mix also includes FD&C yellow dyes
number 5 and 6 for the characteristic bright yellow color of the cheese
sauce.\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese
There is a feeling among many Americans that cheese is a yellow color
rarely seen in nature.
Cite?
But that makes sense. There *are* many Americans.
God, dont we just know that.
How much time have you spent in the USA? Where did you go?
I spent 3 months with an unlimited Greyhound pass in 1973. Coast to
coast. I spent about anotrher 3 months on business and in an RV
taraveling across the Mojave, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, and, of course,
Califuckyou.
That was probably at a low notch in culture. But it sounds like you
didn\'t enjoy yourself, didn\'t make many friends.
On the contrary I had the time of my life.
It answered my burning question of \'Why are all the Americans I have met
in England such arrogant assholes\"
The answer was \'because they had money, but no culture or class\'
I got on best with the lower middle classes of black and italian
extraction, and the good ole boys out in the western plans.
I\'ve spent maybe six months in europe, including the USSR and Ireland
in the definition. Mo lived in Germany for a year and has spent
non-tourist time in Italy and China.
Americans do get around a lot, visit and live in other places.
But they always behave like Anericans and dont make any effort to
understand anything.
Don\'t be silly. We have 50 states, all sorts of cultures, and there is
no stereotypical \"Anerican.\" We have no racial majority here, and I
hear people speaking Spanish next door, right now. They are
construction guys, and I bring them beer every day about when they are
done.
There is a stereotypical American traveller to Europe. And Mexico too.
As a narrow representative of Usians, they are all in denial about the
narrow class they actually come from.
Good grief, we\'re almost out of beer!
I may have a new customer in Paris. That could be fun. It\'s much
better to hang out with locals and not be a tourist.
Try it then
I will, if I can help them. The science might turn out to be
important. They, unlike some I could name, seem to like Americans.
Oh I like Americans, They are like small children, Bumptious and
ignorant, but one has compassion. You just have to lower yourself to
their level
Note: 12\" pie plates are pretty rare. This also works in a 9x10\"
glass pan.
If an oppressive government is starving its people and
arresting/torturing/killing dissidents, do the developed countries of
the world have a moral obligation to intervene?
North Korea. Cuba. Haiti. Zimbabwe. Many others.
I think so.
John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 16:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 15:50, John Larkin wrote:
On 29 May 2023 04:00:37 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 19:49:42 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?
You betcha...
https://sites.google.com/site/gotitsortd/kraft-mac-cheese-ingredients
\"Kraft Macaroni and Cheese cheese sauce mix also includes FD&C yellow dyes
number 5 and 6 for the characteristic bright yellow color of the cheese
sauce.\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese
There is a feeling among many Americans that cheese is a yellow color
rarely seen in nature.
Cite?
But that makes sense. There *are* many Americans.
God, dont we just know that.
How much time have you spent in the USA? Where did you go?
I\'ve spent maybe six months in europe, including the USSR and Ireland
in the definition. Mo lived in Germany for a year and has spent
non-tourist time in Italy and China.
Americans do get around a lot, visit and live in other places.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/12/most-americans-have-traveled-abroad-although-differences-among-demographic-groups-are-large/
On Wed, 31 May 2023 00:50:56 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On 29 May 2023 04:00:37 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 19:49:42 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?
You betcha...
https://sites.google.com/site/gotitsortd/kraft-mac-cheese-ingredients
\"Kraft Macaroni and Cheese cheese sauce mix also includes FD&C yellow
dyes
number 5 and 6 for the characteristic bright yellow color of the cheese
sauce.\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese
There is a feeling among many Americans that cheese is a yellow color
rarely seen in nature.
Cite?
But that makes sense. There *are* many Americans. There are even many
color-blind Americans.
There is no form of color blindness that would produce that
result with the color of cheese.
I suspect that different people may see colors very differently.
You\'d be wrong.