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[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Your point that our rationing wasn\'t as bad as your rationing is taken.
However, the U.S. had rationing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States#World_War_II

Of course our food rationing wasn\'t as bad as yours, because we had
a lot more acreage under cultivation. And nobody was bombing it.

\"At the start of the Second World War in 1939, the United Kingdom was
importing 20 million long tons of food per year, including about 70% of
its cheese and sugar, almost 80% of fruit and about 70% of cereals and
fats. The UK also imported more than half of its meat and relied on
imported feed to support its domestic meat production.\"

You guys were in real trouble, no doubt about it.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 14:33, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I never twigged what that was.  Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

The kit comes with powdered \"cheese\". Actually a mixture of dried,
powdered cheese with other ultra-processed ingredients to make a
smooth sauce.

What about cauliflower cheese? Do you eat that?

I\'m not that fond of cheese. It\'s a convenient and quick source of
protein, but I don\'t really consider it improves very many foods.

I prefer cauliflower roasted in a hot oven until it\'s slightly brown.
If I want to get fancy, I chop it up and season it like tabouli,
with lemon juice, olive oil, and parsley.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:10:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

> We never had food rationing.

Certainly we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States

My parents kept chickens and also had a vegetable garden. Eggs or chickens
could be bartered for sugar and other commodities.

One of the family stories told how my father had acquired a 5 gallon tin
of motor oil through barter. All was good until my mother went to the
garage one day and saw a rat sitting on the can. She hated mice and rats
although they went hand in hand with raising chickens. Being a self-
sufficient woman she got her 16 gauge and blew the rat to hell, along with
most of the oil can.

Footnote: although it has almost vanished today a 16 gauge was considered
a ladies shotgun; my father and I used 12s.

 

[Peeler]

On 27 May 2023 21:24:23 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

The Kraft kits have envelopes of a yellow powder rumored to be dried
Cheddar. You add milk or some optional butter and mix it in after cooking
the macaroni.

My mother often made macaroni and cheese but it was from scratch with real
Cheddar, milk, eggs, flour, butter and macaroni. It was quite a bit
different.

LMAO! Is it about cheese, yet again, lowbrowwoman, you endlessly driveling
senile shithead?

--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 13:38:34 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I\'m a boomer but my parents didn\'t mention rationing. I think they got a
lot of local stuff without much difficulty.

Sugar and butter were scarce.


> New cars were not available. I was born in an ancient 1936 Ford.

I wasn\'t born in it but my earliest vague memories were of a pre-war Dodge
that was traded in on a \'51 Chevy.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:35:01 -0400, Ed P wrote:

One reason is they like to eat things they cannot grow. It is not just
population density it is climate and soil.

If I had to depend on locally sourced produce I would be living on bread
and zucchini although the extended Moua family that took over much of the
farmer\'s market seems to have a greened thumb than the Anglos ever did.

 

[Peeler]

On 27 May 2023 21:39:07 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Sugar and butter were scarce.

Is it about sugar and butter now, you subnormal senile GOSSIP? LMAO

--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 27 May 2023 21:42:44 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

If I had to depend on locally sourced produce I would be living on bread
and zucchini although the extended Moua family that took over much of the
farmer\'s market seems to have a greened thumb than the Anglos ever did.

HIGHLY interesting information about your great and fascinating personality,
again! <VBG>

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 16:29:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No, I mean having it in \'kit\' form.
I can buy ready to microwave macaroni cheese which isn\'t bad, but a kit?

Psychology. Early in the game housewives thought of prepackaged cake mixes
as cheating. Marketers found that if they were instructed to add milk and
an egg, both of which were unnecessary, they felt they were baking from
scratch.

Then there were the Chef Boyardee pizza kits. The first thing to take into
account is where I grew up Italians were considered to be knife wielding
gangsters, barely white. Pizza was only available from disreputable
taverns.

My parents and my aunt and uncle would get together almost every Saturday
night. Beer and whiskey or gin, depending on the season, would flow
freely. The kit consisted in a dough mix and a can of sauce. Bring your
own cheese.

First you added water to the dough mix and let it said for a while,
supposedly to rise. \'A while\' was usually measured in glasses of beer.
They came the interesting part. The \'dough\' was a very elastic mass that
preferred to exist as a lump. Take one slightly hammered adult, add the
lump of dough, and try to stretch out to something close to the area of
the baking pan. How close a fit was acceptable depended on the glasses of
beer consumed. once it was close enough, pour on the sauce, throw on some
cheese, and slam it into the over before in contracted again. Bake for two
or three more glasses of beer or until the smoke got rather thick. Slice
and enjoy.

It was much better when the get-together was at my Uncle\'s. He lived in
the city where there was one of those disreputable taverns on the corner.
Phone in the order and go to the Ladies Entrance to pick up a
professionally prepared pizza. Much better.

 

[Peeler]

On 27 May 2023 21:33:44 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My parents kept chickens and also had a vegetable garden. Eggs or chickens
could be bartered for sugar and other commodities.

THRILLING story about you and your family again, you pathological
self-admiring drama queen! LOL

--
And yet another idiotic \"cool\" line, this time about the UK, from the
resident bigmouthed all-American superhero:
\"You could dump the entire 93,628 square miles in eastern Montana and only
the prairie dogs would notice.\"
MID: <ka2vrlF6c5uU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

Review of the original boxed version:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FwlJbya9KoE

 

[Peeler]

On 27 May 2023 22:12:38 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

LOL This pathological blabbermouth just can\'t stop it!

--
Trump-, Hitler- and Putin-sympathizer lowbrowwoman about Nazi-Germany\'s good
intentions:
\"At the onset all Germany wanted was to build a road to East Prussia which
had been severed from Germany proper by the Danzig Corridor.\"
MID: <kabnetFft5qU17@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 27 May 2023 22:03:57 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Psychology. Early in the game housewives thought of prepackaged cake mixes
as cheating. Marketers found that

Oh, NO!!! It starts again!

<FLUSH rest of the inevitable verbose senile crap unread again>

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:17:46 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Annie\'s also makes a decent basalmic salad dressing, for when you don\'t
feel like making it yourself. I add maple syrup and garlic powder.

I\'ve got a bottle of balsamic vinegar. I use it straight up, no oil.

> Annie\'s is, in my opinion, the best ketchup too.

It\'s not bad but it\'s pricey. Since the brand was sold to General Mills I
take the organic part with a pinch of organic salt. My preference is Huy
Fong Sriracha Ketchup if I\'m putting ketchup on a meat loaf.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:51:00 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

> What about cauliflower cheese? Do you eat that?

My mother made a cauliflower casserole with cream of shrimp soup but I
don\'t think cheese was involved unless there was some in the topping.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:27:22 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Best eaten with a generous amount of Worcester sauce and a small amount
of ketchup.(*)

I put Worcestershire sauce in meatloaf and soups but never it or ketchup
on macaroni and cheese. When I was a kid I did put maple syrup on my
mother\'s homemade macaroni and cheese.

Not that weird if you consider barley duck.

https://www.em-i-lis.com/blog/currants-in-history-barley-dew-or-bar-le-duc

What we called \'barley duck\' didn\'t have anything to do with currants or
ducks. It was a sandwich with whatever jam you had and slices of cheddar
cheese.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 10:09:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Mo\'s favorite meal, which I dutifully prepare to save our marriage, is
fried shrimp on Hawaiian buns with tater tots. Gotta admit it\'s pretty
good.

You mean a variation on Portuguese sweet bread? Wasn\'t King\'s Hawaiian
recently sued for not having anything to do with Hawaii anymore?

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:52:06 +1000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their
rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.
I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

My preferred macaroni cheese claims 3 cheeses.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/708965/on-the-menu-three-cheese-macaroni-null

 

[John Larkin]

On 27 May 2023 22:12:38 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

Do we need to give all the Nobel prizes back?

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 23:31:35 +1000, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 16:31:48 +0100, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
On 4/23/2023 10:22 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Not me. I don\'t like heavy, acidic flavors. I am biased towards
sweet,
creamy, smooth. Mo is Italian and makes heavy red sauces that she
simmers down for hours. My fix is to dilute them about 3:1 with heavy
cream and add cheeses and garlic and tweak the spices, a light orange
color when it\'s edible.

My wife used to make a good sauce but it never seemed overly acidic.

Do our mouths have litmus paper?

No, because we\'d need eyes in our mouths to see the colour change.

We can detect acids, though. I\'m not sure whether we can distinguish
them from alkalis, though. I\'ll have to try licking some caustic soda.

Acids are sour.

Not always, most obviously with orange juice.

> Bases are bitter.

Not always, most obviously with vinegar.