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[John Larkin]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 22:19:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 22/04/2023 22:10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:46:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

Same here in California. Most stores don\'t even offer the silly Kraft
goo, and have a huge range of local and imported cheeses, often with
advice and samples offered.

\"Most stores\" where you are, perhaps. I bet there are places in rural
and suburban California that have the full panoply of crappy Kraft cheeses.
And worse.


Sure. People have different tastes and different budgets. Some people
voluntarily drink Bud. Some people like that spray-can whipped cream
stuff.

If you shop carefully, that spray-can whipped cream stuff isn\'t too bad.
You have to read the ingredient list.

The Safeway in Oakland has Kraft singles, spray cheese, Cheez Whiz, the
whole nine yards.

Kids like that sort of stuff. Do they still make Velveeta? I\'ve heard
of it being used on pipe threads.

Of course they still make Velveeta. I have some in my fridge. My
husband used to like it in omelettes, but he\'s gone off it in favor
of Whole Paycheck\'s American cheese. I suppose in another decade
it will go bad and I will throw it away.

Our Safeway (Diamond Heights) has a cheese island with some decent
stuff, but we go to Tower or Gus\'s or Canyon Market for better cheese.
(Those stores are still in America.) Safeway doesn\'t have Cowgirl or
really good gouda.

I don\'t like cheese very much. Apart from Parmagiano-Reggiano and
Gruyere, I feel the less flavor the better. It\'s a convenient source
of protein, but that\'s about as far as I go.

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

Furriners like to trash America, out of ignorance and jealousy. Based
on the time I\'ve spent in England and Ireland, the food is much better
here.

Some food is much better here. There\'s plenty of crap food dished
up all over the U.S. Consider the festive green-bean casserole.

At least our sausages are, for the most part, all meat. We have
German immigrants to thank, I think.


I think USA does great steaks, but the chain fast food - tex mex,
pizzas, burgers - is dire.
A friend I was staying with had his texas fiancee arrive - I was going
to cook that night - bolognese. She was amazed that I assembled all the
fresh ingredients and and the sauce myself. To her, it came out of a
bottle marked \'bolognese sauce - just add ground beef\' .

I really think food in Britain once you get away from cheap restaurants
and down market supermarkets is the best in the world for variety and
quality.

Way better than most US food I have eaten, but of course there are
exceptions. Seafood near the gulf is superb.
Most beef is consistently good. Chicken not so much. Dairy seems to have
passed the US by. I believe Cajun cooking is excellent, but have never
sampled it.

I married a cajun girl once. She made crawfish etoufee, about the best
thing you can ever eat. Gumbo can be great too. I cooked pain perdu
for breakfast today, another cajun fave.

The gulf seafood - shrimp, oysters, fish - are the best, as long as
you\'ve had your hepatitis shots.

One thing I really miss is the fried oyster sandwiches. You just can\'t
get one here. There\'s a fake British pub in Pacifica that has
fish+chips, but you can substitute fried oysters for the fish.

Google Pacifica Drone

The pub is half a block from the cliffs so might survive another 5 or
10 years.

 

[John Larkin]

On 22 Apr 2023 19:13:58 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:05:43 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 08:45:19 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

On 22/04/2023 03:19, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 16:00:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Some of their cheese is good but some is nasty stinky. Boursin is
great on crackers or bread. Ours is made in USA under franchise from
the French.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambozola

That\'s tasty and Costco usually has it. Gorgonzola is a little over
the top unless you crumble it in a salad or something. The Camembert
combination improves both.


Theres two versions of Gorgonzola,

Gorgonzola Dolce (Dolce is italian for sweet) is a younger gorgonzola,
much milder and less blue veining

Gorgonzola Piccante (Piccante is italian for spicy) is an older
gorgonzola, much stronger and far more blue veining

I prefer my penicillin by injection. That\'s less painful.

I\'ve had other varieties of cheese develop blue veining. They haven\'t
killed me yet. I also have a kefir lab experiment that\'s been going on for
years and a batch of sauerkraut doing whatever. It all makes for a complex
gut bioeme.

I have a friend who had chronic gut problems and bladder infections,
the aftermath of MS. The cure was getting her New Orleans CDM Coffee
and Chicory for breakfast. The chicory has some good bioeme effects.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:46:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

The Safeway in Oakland has Kraft singles, spray cheese, Cheez Whiz, the
whole nine yards.

Oakland CA? They know their customer base.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

lørdag den 22. april 2023 kl. 21.02.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:49:18 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:54:33 +1000, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home
wrote:

John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 22:51:34 +0100, Martin Brown
\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/04/2023 14:22, Max Demian wrote:
On 21/04/2023 14:00, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:40:06 +0100
\"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> wrote:

Apparently their cheese tastes like cardboard.

I\'ve been to the US a few times, and never found any cheese other
than
Monterey Jack, which is of the Edam type i.e. rather mild. I\'m sure
there are others, but the supermarkets don\'t seem to stock them.

Don\'t they have something they call Cheddar? What is that like?

Yellow rubbery plastic - what did you expect?

Maybe 25 years ago. We have some really good cheeses now, often from
co-op dairies that start with really good milk.


Nothing beats wisconsin chedder, aged 15 years.

Wonder how they predict how much to make.
Same issue with Ron Zacapa 23-year rum. I guess they just servo the
price.

Zacapa is solera, and as far as i understand a rather wide interpretation of the concept
so on a fraction of a bottle is actually that old

Maybe so, but it\'s very tasty.

I loved 10 Cane too, but they quit making it. Tragic.

One rum+coke radically improves my skiing, but most any rum works for
that.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:40:48 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

We no longer have Safeway. When Albertson\'s bought the chain they had to
divest themselves of the Safeway stores in Missoula which became Fresh
Markets which were recently bought by Yokes. The changes were minimal as
far as I can tell.

We had a Lucky\'s Market that lasted two years. Tidyman\'s was another
option but losing a $6.3 million sexual discrimination suit put the chain
out of business.

Tough market. When I used to travel I was amazed at how much cheaper food
was in LA, Phoenix, Seattle or other major markets.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

søndag den 23. april 2023 kl. 01.39.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

lørdag den 22. april 2023 kl. 21.02.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:49:18 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:54:33 +1000, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home
wrote:

John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 22:51:34 +0100, Martin Brown
\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/04/2023 14:22, Max Demian wrote:
On 21/04/2023 14:00, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:40:06 +0100
\"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> wrote:

Apparently their cheese tastes like cardboard.

I\'ve been to the US a few times, and never found any cheese other
than
Monterey Jack, which is of the Edam type i.e. rather mild. I\'m sure
there are others, but the supermarkets don\'t seem to stock them..

Don\'t they have something they call Cheddar? What is that like?

Yellow rubbery plastic - what did you expect?

Maybe 25 years ago. We have some really good cheeses now, often from
co-op dairies that start with really good milk.


Nothing beats wisconsin chedder, aged 15 years.

Wonder how they predict how much to make.
Same issue with Ron Zacapa 23-year rum. I guess they just servo the
price.

Zacapa is solera, and as far as i understand a rather wide interpretation of the concept
so on a fraction of a bottle is actually that old

Maybe so, but it\'s very tasty.

it is

One rum+coke radically improves my skiing, but most any rum works for
that.

never been a fan of rum and coke

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Of course they still make Velveeta. I have some in my fridge. My
husband used to like it in omelettes, but he\'s gone off it in favor of
Whole Paycheck\'s American cheese. I suppose in another decade it will
go bad and I will throw it away.

When the US is the vast wasteland portrayed by Cormac McCarthy\'s \'The
Road\' your Velveeta will be just fine.

Some food is much better here. There\'s plenty of crap food dished up
all over the U.S. Consider the festive green-bean casserole.

The one with cream of mushroom soup and canned onion rings on top? The
bane of covered dish suppers? My mother did a similar thing with
cauliflower, cream of shrimp soup, and a bread crumb topping that was
marginally better.

We won;t go into the perverted uses of Jello.

At least our sausages are, for the most part, all meat. We have German
immigrants to thank, I think.

I\'ve been getting Aidell\'s lately. They are a bit better than some of the
chicken sausages that start with dropping a live chicken into a chipper.

We had a local guy who made great sausages but he hung it up after 48
years. He\'d do chorizo and andouille but his real love was digging up old
German recipes. He even made blutwurst before it became very difficult to
get blood after the mad cow scare. Good sauerkraut too.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 19:46:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I think the worst place I ever shopped was Sweden 57 varieties of
Pickled fish and rye bread. And that was it.

You don\'t like surstromming?

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 16:53:06 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

søndag den 23. april 2023 kl. 01.39.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

lørdag den 22. april 2023 kl. 21.02.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:49:18 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:54:33 +1000, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home
wrote:

John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 22:51:34 +0100, Martin Brown
\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/04/2023 14:22, Max Demian wrote:
On 21/04/2023 14:00, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:40:06 +0100
\"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> wrote:

Apparently their cheese tastes like cardboard.

I\'ve been to the US a few times, and never found any cheese other
than
Monterey Jack, which is of the Edam type i.e. rather mild. I\'m sure
there are others, but the supermarkets don\'t seem to stock them.

Don\'t they have something they call Cheddar? What is that like?

Yellow rubbery plastic - what did you expect?

Maybe 25 years ago. We have some really good cheeses now, often from
co-op dairies that start with really good milk.


Nothing beats wisconsin chedder, aged 15 years.

Wonder how they predict how much to make.
Same issue with Ron Zacapa 23-year rum. I guess they just servo the
price.

Zacapa is solera, and as far as i understand a rather wide interpretation of the concept
so on a fraction of a bottle is actually that old

Maybe so, but it\'s very tasty.

it is


One rum+coke radically improves my skiing, but most any rum works for
that.

never been a fan of rum and coke

Sugar. Caffeine. Alcohol.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 07 Apr 2023 18:08:51 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 07/04/2023 18:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Do you check your checks? So much easier to call them cheques.

Not that anyone uses them in the 21st century.




I don\'t even use cash.
Which was handy, I went to park at a beach to go scuba diving and a man
approached me asking for £2 to park. I offered him a credit card, I
offered him my phone, but he wanted cash. I ended up getting let in for
free. I later heard him arguing with another driver who only had a £10
note. The stupid car park operator was putting the coins straight into
a jar through a slot and couldn\'t give him £8 change. I walked over and
suggested he keep the next four fees in his hand and give them to the
first driver. He looked at me as though I was Einstein.

or something I\'d
usually write 25 Mar 23. It seems the first thing doctors or pharmacists
want is your birthday so I use mm/dd/yyyy.

Why not dd/mm/yyyy? Start with the smallest, move to the largest.
You\'re ruining the world when a website asks for a date and doesn\'t
specify if it\'s English or American format.

When programming I use ISO-8601 conventions although there are several
flavors. yyyy-mm-dd.

What flavours?

You wrote nothing.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 07:29:47 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 05:42:50 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Anyway, they were dress shirts with each style available in a variety
of collar sizes and sleeve lengths. When Harry\'s Haberdashery orders 5
dozen shirts they don\'t get to pick an choose; they get a selection of
sizes in a normal distribution. That leads to a lot of base 12
arithmetic.

That\'s stupid, so if Harry has loads of XL left, and is running out of
L, what does he do?

Returns the unsold merchandise for credit.

That\'s stupid. Send too much then take it back. It\'s like our government giving money to the poor but taxing them aswell.

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 22:26:55 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> You would have to ask Grundig. I have both a Yacht Boy 400 and a Satellit

All you have is a big mouth! In fact you are all mouth, you pathological
bigmouth, braggart and gossip! LOL

--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"My family loaded me into a \'51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in \'52. I\'m alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going.\"
MID: <j2kuc1F3ejsU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 22:18:03 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

\'Mille passus\' one thousand paces or a Roman mile. Supposedly \'million\'
for a thousand thousand was coined around Chaucer\'s time as yet another
inconsistency of English.

ROTFLOL The resident pathological grandiloquent bigmouth just can\'t cut it
out! LMAO

--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
\"It\'s been years since I\'ve been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy\'s because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 23 Apr 2023 00:15:11 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> You don\'t like surstromming?

You love hearing yourself talking, you abnormal psychotic bigmouth? LOL

--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" lines:
\"If you\'re an ax murderer don\'t leave souvenir photos on your phone.\"
\"MID: <k7ssc7F8mt9U3@mid.individual.net>\"

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 23:36:52 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Oakland CA? They know their customer base.

Do they? Thanks for another important piece of information, senile
gossipping washerwoman.

--
Yet another thrilling story from the resident senile gossip\'s thrilling
life:
\"Around here you have to be careful to lock your car toward the end of
summer or somebody will leave a grocery sack full of zucchini in it.\"

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 23:10:29 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My mother would solemnly swear she never used anything but butter for
Christmas cookies but I distinctly remember her kneading the dye into a
bag of margarine.

Sounds like she was a bragging bigmouth like you and you inherited your
sickening bragging and grandiloquent bullshitting from her.

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 22:47:44 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

There are parts of the \'60s and \'70s I try to forget. Dr. John is one of
them.

Are you demented driveling senile assholes ALL drugged? Or is it all part of
your advanced senility?

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 9 Apr 2023 06:29:47 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Returns the unsold merchandise for credit. Think about it. At least back
then they weren\'t 3D printing shirts on demand. The entire lot of the
particular shirt was a normal distribution of sizes. There were no more
Ls. Maybe Tim the Tailor in Fat City could make use of the XLs.

How can there be SO much shit in one single senile head? LOL

--
And yet another \"cool\" line from the resident bigmouthed all-American
superhero:
\"I was working on the roof when the cat came up the ladder to see what I
was doing. Cats do not do well going down aluminum ladders.\"
MID: <k9roshF2rjdU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:46:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

Same here in California. Most stores don\'t even offer the silly Kraft
goo, and have a huge range of local and imported cheeses, often with
advice and samples offered.

\"Most stores\" where you are, perhaps. I bet there are places in rural
and suburban California that have the full panoply of crappy Kraft cheeses.
And worse.


Sure. People have different tastes and different budgets. Some people
voluntarily drink Bud. Some people like that spray-can whipped cream
stuff.

If you shop carefully, that spray-can whipped cream stuff isn\'t too bad.
You have to read the ingredient list.

It\'s good to keep some real heavy cream around for sauces and stuff. I
can whip it up, in a beaker with my immersion blender, in about a
minute.

I don\'t do that kind of cooking. I prefer sauces like chermoula
or chimichurri: light, bright, acidic, and herbal.

The Safeway in Oakland has Kraft singles, spray cheese, Cheez Whiz, the
whole nine yards.

Kids like that sort of stuff. Do they still make Velveeta? I\'ve heard
of it being used on pipe threads.

Of course they still make Velveeta. I have some in my fridge. My
husband used to like it in omelettes, but he\'s gone off it in favor
of Whole Paycheck\'s American cheese. I suppose in another decade
it will go bad and I will throw it away.

Our Safeway (Diamond Heights) has a cheese island with some decent
stuff, but we go to Tower or Gus\'s or Canyon Market for better cheese.
(Those stores are still in America.) Safeway doesn\'t have Cowgirl or
really good gouda.

I don\'t like cheese very much. Apart from Parmagiano-Reggiano and
Gruyere, I feel the less flavor the better. It\'s a convenient source
of protein, but that\'s about as far as I go.


See? People are different.

Yep. But you seem to have blinders on when it comes to ordinary
people and crappy food.

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

> And you have to go somewhere else for a really good bagel dog.

Ah. Thanks for inducing me to learn what a bagel dog is.

> Safeway bakes awful bread, but their bagels and donuts are good.

I\'m a terrible snob about bread. I buy it here:

https://www.zingermansbakehouse.com/

Furriners like to trash America, out of ignorance and jealousy. Based
on the time I\'ve spent in England and Ireland, the food is much better
here.

Some food is much better here. There\'s plenty of crap food dished
up all over the U.S. Consider the festive green-bean casserole.

At least our sausages are, for the most part, all meat. We have
German immigrants to thank, I think.

Audells is good. Our little Canyon Market makes a great sweet Italian
sausage... just a lump, like hamburger, without a casing.

Bulk sausage. We have a butcher shop that does a nice hot Italian
sausage.

> Dang, I\'m hungry again.

It\'s almost breakfast time as I write this.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/04/2023 23:47, rbowman wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 20:51:09 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 22/04/2023 20:02, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 08:51:46 +0100, SH wrote:

My wife is always on ay me to eat more fruit and veg... I say theres
grapes in wine, apples in cider, pears in perry, cherries in cherry
brandy and grass in Cheese!

Wensleydale with cranberries is quite good. It only seems to appear
around Christmas
All year round here. like it now and again/ > but there is a goat cheese
log with cranberries and cinnamon
that also works.

Sounds nice. goat cheese and cinnamon. Not seen that here.

https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-benefits-cranberries

That should be an easy sale...

Well its all bollocks really, all this \'scientific studies show...\'that
my product will cure all youse ills\'

They call me the Gris Gris man.

(I wonder who gets the reference).

There are parts of the \'60s and \'70s I try to forget. Dr. John is one of
them.
How sad. I met him personally. A very genuinely nice man.

--
“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established
authorities are wrong.”

― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV