v for frequency?...

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 19:10:09 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Decades ago I had a recipe that used cottage cheese for the base to which
you added grated cheddar to make a sauce. I\'ve tried to replicate it from
memory a couple of times and wound up with a real mess.

Another THRILLING account from the THRILLING life of the resident bigmouth,
braggart and gossip, lowbrowwoman herself! LOL

--
And yet another \"cool\" line from the resident bigmouthed all-American
superhero:
\"I was working on the roof when the cat came up the ladder to see what I
was doing. Cats do not do well going down aluminum ladders.\"
MID: <k9roshF2rjdU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/04/2023 19:56, rbowman wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 06:54:32 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Of course, some of the prices are insane, like $75 a pound. But some of
the foodies here will pay $600 for a bottle of wine, or $150 for a sushi
sitting or an afternoon high tea with silly little sandwiches.

Our upscale store packages pieces in plastic wrap and is canny enough to
size them so the sticker shock isn\'t too bad. Just don\'t think too hard
about the price per pound.

I am paying between about £9 and £25 per kilo for cheese.
Even top grade Dolcelatte or Parmesan. That\'s at most $15 per lb.



--
\"I guess a rattlesnake ain\'t risponsible fer bein\' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if\'n I catches him around mah chillun\".

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/04/2023 20:02, rbowman wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 08:51:46 +0100, SH wrote:

My wife is always on ay me to eat more fruit and veg... I say theres
grapes in wine, apples in cider, pears in perry, cherries in cherry
brandy and grass in Cheese!

Wensleydale with cranberries is quite good. It only seems to appear around
Christmas

All year round here. like it now and again/ > but there is a goat cheese
log with cranberries and cinnamon

that also works.

Sounds nice. goat cheese and cinnamon. Not seen that here.

https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-benefits-cranberries

That should be an easy sale...

Well its all bollocks really, all this \'scientific studies show...\'that
my product will cure all youse ills\'

They call me the Gris Gris man.

(I wonder who gets the reference).




--
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:46:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

Same here in California. Most stores don\'t even offer the silly Kraft
goo, and have a huge range of local and imported cheeses, often with
advice and samples offered.

\"Most stores\" where you are, perhaps. I bet there are places in rural
and suburban California that have the full panoply of crappy Kraft cheeses.
And worse.


Sure. People have different tastes and different budgets. Some people
voluntarily drink Bud. Some people like that spray-can whipped cream
stuff.

If you shop carefully, that spray-can whipped cream stuff isn\'t too bad.
You have to read the ingredient list.

The Safeway in Oakland has Kraft singles, spray cheese, Cheez Whiz, the
whole nine yards.

Kids like that sort of stuff. Do they still make Velveeta? I\'ve heard
of it being used on pipe threads.

Of course they still make Velveeta. I have some in my fridge. My
husband used to like it in omelettes, but he\'s gone off it in favor
of Whole Paycheck\'s American cheese. I suppose in another decade
it will go bad and I will throw it away.

Our Safeway (Diamond Heights) has a cheese island with some decent
stuff, but we go to Tower or Gus\'s or Canyon Market for better cheese.
(Those stores are still in America.) Safeway doesn\'t have Cowgirl or
really good gouda.

I don\'t like cheese very much. Apart from Parmagiano-Reggiano and
Gruyere, I feel the less flavor the better. It\'s a convenient source
of protein, but that\'s about as far as I go.

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

Furriners like to trash America, out of ignorance and jealousy. Based
on the time I\'ve spent in England and Ireland, the food is much better
here.

Some food is much better here. There\'s plenty of crap food dished
up all over the U.S. Consider the festive green-bean casserole.

At least our sausages are, for the most part, all meat. We have
German immigrants to thank, I think.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:13:32 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Nobody forces you to buy that stuff. Some people like it, especially
kids. Some people can\'t afford high-end cheese.

Make your own nachos with your own sauce.

Decades ago I had a recipe that used cottage cheese for the base to which
you added grated cheddar to make a sauce. I\'ve tried to replicate it from
memory a couple of times and wound up with a real mess.

I must be the only person in Creation who prefers the original nachos
with shredded cheese melted onto chips, rather than any sort of cheese
sauce.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/04/2023 22:10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:46:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

Same here in California. Most stores don\'t even offer the silly Kraft
goo, and have a huge range of local and imported cheeses, often with
advice and samples offered.

\"Most stores\" where you are, perhaps. I bet there are places in rural
and suburban California that have the full panoply of crappy Kraft cheeses.
And worse.


Sure. People have different tastes and different budgets. Some people
voluntarily drink Bud. Some people like that spray-can whipped cream
stuff.

If you shop carefully, that spray-can whipped cream stuff isn\'t too bad.
You have to read the ingredient list.

The Safeway in Oakland has Kraft singles, spray cheese, Cheez Whiz, the
whole nine yards.

Kids like that sort of stuff. Do they still make Velveeta? I\'ve heard
of it being used on pipe threads.

Of course they still make Velveeta. I have some in my fridge. My
husband used to like it in omelettes, but he\'s gone off it in favor
of Whole Paycheck\'s American cheese. I suppose in another decade
it will go bad and I will throw it away.

Our Safeway (Diamond Heights) has a cheese island with some decent
stuff, but we go to Tower or Gus\'s or Canyon Market for better cheese.
(Those stores are still in America.) Safeway doesn\'t have Cowgirl or
really good gouda.

I don\'t like cheese very much. Apart from Parmagiano-Reggiano and
Gruyere, I feel the less flavor the better. It\'s a convenient source
of protein, but that\'s about as far as I go.

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

Furriners like to trash America, out of ignorance and jealousy. Based
on the time I\'ve spent in England and Ireland, the food is much better
here.

Some food is much better here. There\'s plenty of crap food dished
up all over the U.S. Consider the festive green-bean casserole.

At least our sausages are, for the most part, all meat. We have
German immigrants to thank, I think.

I think USA does great steaks, but the chain fast food - tex mex,
pizzas, burgers - is dire.
A friend I was staying with had his texas fiancee arrive - I was going
to cook that night - bolognese. She was amazed that I assembled all the
fresh ingredients and and the sauce myself. To her, it came out of a
bottle marked \'bolognese sauce - just add ground beef\' .

I really think food in Britain once you get away from cheap restaurants
and down market supermarkets is the best in the world for variety and
quality.

Way better than most US food I have eaten, but of course there are
exceptions. Seafood near the gulf is superb.
Most beef is consistently good. Chicken not so much. Dairy seems to have
passed the US by. I believe Cajun cooking is excellent, but have never
sampled it.

--
\"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) \"

Alan Sokal

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 13:00:34 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"charles\" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote in message
news:5a8f398474charles@candehope.me.uk...
In article <k8veanFk1r7U1@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 01/04/2023 13:17, Ian Jackson wrote:

Now that we\'re free from the oppressive jackboot dictatorship of the
EU, can we now not revert to the traditional cycles per second (c/s,
or simply \'cycles\', etc)?

We used units such as Hertz long before the UK ever joined the EEC.

Indeed - 1962 for me, when I started work

My parents\' portable radio, a Grundig Yacht Boy,

What has listening to the radio got to do with boys on boats?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 11:23:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 03/04/2023 22:10, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <k8veanFk1r7U1@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
On 01/04/2023 13:17, Ian Jackson wrote:

Now that we\'re free from the oppressive jackboot dictatorship of the
EU, can we now not revert to the traditional cycles per second (c/s,
or simply \'cycles\', etc)?

We used units such as Hertz long before the UK ever joined the EEC.

IIRC, the UK only started using Hz in the early 70s. This was probably
around when we joined the EEC, but I don\'t think that this was the
reason. Until then, I had only seen Hz used on German testgear (Rohde &
Schwarz etc). I believe that it was originally intended to use Hz only
for electrical frequency.

That broadly matches my memory.

A lot of school and uni kit was in C/s or cps or \'cycles\'.

Cycles just sounds American. Something to be avoided. What next, counterclockwise?

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/04/2023 22:12, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:13:32 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Nobody forces you to buy that stuff. Some people like it, especially
kids. Some people can\'t afford high-end cheese.

Make your own nachos with your own sauce.

Decades ago I had a recipe that used cottage cheese for the base to which
you added grated cheddar to make a sauce. I\'ve tried to replicate it from
memory a couple of times and wound up with a real mess.

I must be the only person in Creation who prefers the original nachos
with shredded cheese melted onto chips, rather than any sort of cheese
sauce.

Oh? Is that how they come these days? Never did when I was there, and
doint in this country either. But I prefer my tortilla chips with a
really spicy chillie, tomato, lime, onion and coriander salsa. And a
bottle of Mexican beer

Followed up with home made fajitas, with cheddar cheese, refried beans,
sour cream and more of the same salsa. And more Mexican beer...


--
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 00:32:45 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 21:26:55 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 11:23:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I note from watching many car mechanic you tube videos that even
proper US made cars are moving to metric screws. And things like a
\"12.5mm wrench\" are mire likely than a \'half inch\'

I have tools in both systems. Even my 1986 Ford pickup throws in a
little metric every now and then. The forks, carb, and other bits on
the Harley are Japanese and hence metric. Only the Toyota car and
Suzuki bikes have no surprises.

When working under car a female significant other can copy better with
metric sizes than \'Give me the damn 13/16\"

Your female significant other, perhaps. I\'m quite comfortable with
fractions.

I\'m certain she can work with fractions in a normal context but 20 or 21
works better when you\'re hunting through a set of open ends than looking
for the one between 12/16ths and 14/16ths.

It would be fine if it was only 16ths, but then you have halves, quarters, eights, things to adjust in your mind. Is 3/4 bigger or smaller than 13/16?

And where the hell did you find a woman who can use a spanner?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 09:52:40 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"rbowman\" <bowman@montana.com> wrote in message
news:k93qcsFaf5gU1@mid.individual.net...
On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 21:26:55 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 11:23:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I note from watching many car mechanic you tube videos that even
proper US made cars are moving to metric screws. And things like a
\"12.5mm wrench\" are mire likely than a \'half inch\'

I have tools in both systems. Even my 1986 Ford pickup throws in a
little metric every now and then. The forks, carb, and other bits on
the Harley are Japanese and hence metric. Only the Toyota car and
Suzuki bikes have no surprises.

When working under car a female significant other can copy better with
metric sizes than \'Give me the damn 13/16\"

Your female significant other, perhaps. I\'m quite comfortable with
fractions.

I\'m certain she can work with fractions in a normal context but 20 or 21
works better when you\'re hunting through a set of open ends than looking
for the one between 12/16ths and 14/16ths.

Better to quote the sizes in thousands of an inch rather than fractions: 688
thous means a lot more to me than 11/16 inch.

In the UK, we call thousandths of an inch mills. Er.... what? So not millionths then?

Gets confusing as millimetres is also shortened to mills.

Come to think of it, why is it called millimetres, it\'s a thousandth of a meter, not a millionth.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 05:35:10 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 16:51:44 +0100, alan_m wrote:

17mm wrench? Try spanner.

https://www.amazon.com/AutoWanderer-Tool-Adjustable-Universal-Adjustments/
dp/B09Y1WY3CS

Quite a different animal in the rest of the world.

Why did you wrap a URL? Here, do it like this:

https://www.amazon.com/AutoWanderer-Tool-Adjustable-Universal-Adjustments/dp/B09Y1WY3CS

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 16:51:44 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 05/04/2023 13:46, Ed P wrote:
On 4/5/2023 4:52 AM, NY wrote:
\"rbowman\" <bowman@montana.com> wrote in message

I\'m certain she can work with fractions in a normal context but 20 or 21
works better when you\'re hunting through a set of open ends than looking
for the one between 12/16ths and 14/16ths.

Better to quote the sizes in thousands of an inch rather than
fractions: 688 thous means a lot more to me than 11/16 inch.

Depends on what you work with on a regular basis. Hand me the 17mm
wrench, please.

17mm wrench? Try spanner.

Wrench implies clumsy tugging at it.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 09:47:01 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"alan_m\" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:k95jofFikvsU3@mid.individual.net...
On 05/04/2023 13:46, Ed P wrote:
On 4/5/2023 4:52 AM, NY wrote:
\"rbowman\" <bowman@montana.com> wrote in message

I\'m certain she can work with fractions in a normal context but 20 or
21
works better when you\'re hunting through a set of open ends than
looking
for the one between 12/16ths and 14/16ths.

Better to quote the sizes in thousands of an inch rather than fractions:
688 thous means a lot more to me than 11/16 inch.


Depends on what you work with on a regular basis. Hand me the 17mm
wrench, please.

I\'m one of those people who cannot distinguish by eye between one
spanner/wrench and other of very similar size (*), so I always have to look
at the number stamped on it.

Same here. I see the nut, I think that fits this one. No. Bigger. No. Bigger. No, I was 3 sizes out.

I don\'t use the number, where is the number on a nut?

Especially with socket-spanners where they are
all lined up in ascending order in the box.

Until the box breaks. Mine are in a bag. The one I need is at the bottom. Unless I try to use that information and take the bottom one, then it\'s at the top.

And I find it easier to read \"17
mm\" than \"11/16 inch\". I suppose I prefer to use integers of a smaller unit
(millimetre) than fractions of a larger unit (inch).



(*) My wife is just the opposite: she can\'t understand how anyone can\'t
remember what two similar spanners look like, having seen one and then the
other (ie not side-by-side), and then select the correct one by eye.
Likewise with judging the weight of thing: this potato is \"obviously\"
heavier than the other one, judging either by holding one and then the
other, or else by judging the size of them even though they are completely
different shapes.

The only person I know who can do that works in a post office. I hand him a parcel and he says \"2.3 kg\". The weight is what he says +/- 0.1kg.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

lørdag den 22. april 2023 kl. 23.27.12 UTC+2 skrev Commander Kinsey:

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 09:52:40 +0100, NY <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"rbowman\" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
news:k93qcs...@mid.individual.net...
On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 21:26:55 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-04, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 11:23:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I note from watching many car mechanic you tube videos that even
proper US made cars are moving to metric screws. And things like a
\"12.5mm wrench\" are mire likely than a \'half inch\'

I have tools in both systems. Even my 1986 Ford pickup throws in a
little metric every now and then. The forks, carb, and other bits on
the Harley are Japanese and hence metric. Only the Toyota car and
Suzuki bikes have no surprises.

When working under car a female significant other can copy better with
metric sizes than \'Give me the damn 13/16\"

Your female significant other, perhaps. I\'m quite comfortable with
fractions.

I\'m certain she can work with fractions in a normal context but 20 or 21
works better when you\'re hunting through a set of open ends than looking
for the one between 12/16ths and 14/16ths.

Better to quote the sizes in thousands of an inch rather than fractions: 688
thous means a lot more to me than 11/16 inch.

In the UK, we call thousandths of an inch mills. Er.... what? So not millionths then?

Gets confusing as millimetres is also shortened to mills.

Come to think of it, why is it called millimetres, it\'s a thousandth of a meter, not a millionth.

milli is 1/1000, from latin mille for 1000

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 22:27:04 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Come to think of it, why is it called millimetres, it\'s a thousandth of
a meter, not a millionth.

\'Mille passus\' one thousand paces or a Roman mile. Supposedly \'million\'
for a thousand thousand was coined around Chaucer\'s time as yet another
inconsistency of English.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 22:23:21 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> What has listening to the radio got to do with boys on boats?

You would have to ask Grundig. I have both a Yacht Boy 400 and a Satellit
700. The YB is smaller and more portable. Both were popular when shortwave
listening was a thing. The internet more or less killed that.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 20:51:09 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 22/04/2023 20:02, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 08:51:46 +0100, SH wrote:

My wife is always on ay me to eat more fruit and veg... I say theres
grapes in wine, apples in cider, pears in perry, cherries in cherry
brandy and grass in Cheese!

Wensleydale with cranberries is quite good. It only seems to appear
around Christmas
All year round here. like it now and again/ > but there is a goat cheese
log with cranberries and cinnamon
that also works.

Sounds nice. goat cheese and cinnamon. Not seen that here.

https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/health-benefits-cranberries

That should be an easy sale...

Well its all bollocks really, all this \'scientific studies show...\'that
my product will cure all youse ills\'

They call me the Gris Gris man.

(I wonder who gets the reference).

There are parts of the \'60s and \'70s I try to forget. Dr. John is one of
them.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:50:18 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

A long time ago in the USA, margerine was white and it was illegal to
color it. Sometimes it was sold with a little capsule of yellow die that
people could mix in themselves.

My mother would solemnly swear she never used anything but butter for
Christmas cookies but I distinctly remember her kneading the dye into a
bag of margarine.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:46:32 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

Same here in California. Most stores don\'t even offer the silly Kraft
goo, and have a huge range of local and imported cheeses, often with
advice and samples offered.

\"Most stores\" where you are, perhaps. I bet there are places in rural
and suburban California that have the full panoply of crappy Kraft cheeses.
And worse.


Sure. People have different tastes and different budgets. Some people
voluntarily drink Bud. Some people like that spray-can whipped cream
stuff.

If you shop carefully, that spray-can whipped cream stuff isn\'t too bad.
You have to read the ingredient list.

It\'s good to keep some real heavy cream around for sauces and stuff. I
can whip it up, in a beaker with my immersion blender, in about a
minute.

The Safeway in Oakland has Kraft singles, spray cheese, Cheez Whiz, the
whole nine yards.

Kids like that sort of stuff. Do they still make Velveeta? I\'ve heard
of it being used on pipe threads.

Of course they still make Velveeta. I have some in my fridge. My
husband used to like it in omelettes, but he\'s gone off it in favor
of Whole Paycheck\'s American cheese. I suppose in another decade
it will go bad and I will throw it away.

Our Safeway (Diamond Heights) has a cheese island with some decent
stuff, but we go to Tower or Gus\'s or Canyon Market for better cheese.
(Those stores are still in America.) Safeway doesn\'t have Cowgirl or
really good gouda.

I don\'t like cheese very much. Apart from Parmagiano-Reggiano and
Gruyere, I feel the less flavor the better. It\'s a convenient source
of protein, but that\'s about as far as I go.

See? People are different.

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which Safeway
used to have.

And you have to go somewhere else for a really good bagel dog.

Safeway bakes awful bread, but their bagels and donuts are good.

Furriners like to trash America, out of ignorance and jealousy. Based
on the time I\'ve spent in England and Ireland, the food is much better
here.

Some food is much better here. There\'s plenty of crap food dished
up all over the U.S. Consider the festive green-bean casserole.

At least our sausages are, for the most part, all meat. We have
German immigrants to thank, I think.

Audells is good. Our little Canyon Market makes a great sweet Italian
sausage... just a lump, like hamburger, without a casing.

Dang, I\'m hungry again.