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On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:23:20 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On 3 Apr 2023 20:03:50 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 08:17:50 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Grits? Grits is wonderful.

Probably apocryphal but my brother had a story about a Yankee engineer
working at Redstone during the BOMARC project. They were under a lot of
pressure and everyone\'s fuse was a little short.

The engineer went to the same diner every morning for breakfast and would
say \"No grits.\" Being Alabama his order would always come with grits.
Finally he snapped, threw the grits through a plate glass window saying
\"No goddamn grits!\"


Yanks eat cream of wheat and toast Wonder Bread. Hopeless.

White grits. Yellow grits. Cheezy grits. Fried grits. Grits and hash.

Apparently their cheese tastes like cardboard.
 
On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 11:32:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 03/04/2023 21:23, John Larkin wrote:
On 3 Apr 2023 20:03:50 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 08:17:50 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Grits? Grits is wonderful.

Probably apocryphal but my brother had a story about a Yankee engineer
working at Redstone during the BOMARC project. They were under a lot of
pressure and everyone\'s fuse was a little short.

The engineer went to the same diner every morning for breakfast and would
say \"No grits.\" Being Alabama his order would always come with grits.
Finally he snapped, threw the grits through a plate glass window saying
\"No goddamn grits!\"


Yanks eat cream of wheat and toast Wonder Bread. Hopeless.

White grits. Yellow grits. Cheezy grits. Fried grits. Grits and hash.

In S africa its called \'mealies\' or \'mealie pap\'

You mean \"in Suth Effrica\"

> And eaten with the fingers.

Isn\'t it Kaffirs who eat like that?
 
On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 03:41:49 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:07:48 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-03, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On 3 Apr 2023 20:03:50 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 08:17:50 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Grits? Grits is wonderful.

Probably apocryphal but my brother had a story about a Yankee engineer
working at Redstone during the BOMARC project. They were under a lot of
pressure and everyone\'s fuse was a little short.

The engineer went to the same diner every morning for breakfast and would
say \"No grits.\" Being Alabama his order would always come with grits.
Finally he snapped, threw the grits through a plate glass window saying
\"No goddamn grits!\"


Yanks eat cream of wheat and toast Wonder Bread. Hopeless.

Not this Yank. No CoW, no Wonder Bread. Ok, I take that soft, white
stuff and stick it up a turkey\'s ass for Thanksgiving. Real bread
doesn\'t have that nostalgic texture.

I use the band saw at work to slice Tartine sourdough.


White grits. Yellow grits. Cheezy grits. Fried grits. Grits and hash.

I forgot to mention the classic, Shrimp and Grits. Google that; it\'s a
big deal.



I\'ve never eaten grits, but I got some polenta last week at the grocery
store. I\'ll experiment with it. Probably put red sauce and Italian
sausage on top.

Yellow corn meal is sold as both grits and polenta. The only real
difference is the price on a menu.


What kind of hash? I\'m not a big hash eater, either.

My mom

Mum. Short for mother. Why change the pronounciation?
 
On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 11:07:54 +0100, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-03, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
The easiest place to find canned hominy is in the Hispanic aisle. It\'s
used in menudo among other things. I think you can get dried hominy but
I\'ve never seen it in markets.

No menudo for me, thanks.

Naked waiter?
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 03:30:14 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 02 Apr 2023 19:46:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

To imagine America, just think of any other country 50 years ago. They
evolve slowly over there.

At least America is evolving. The UK has been devolving since they lost
that war they thought they won. How\'s that true Scotsman, Humza Yousaf,

No member of the public voted for him, that\'s how absurd our voting system is.

> doing? Bad enough to have one named after a fish.

Two. Salmon and Sturgeon.

> What was the matter with Forbes? Upset the poofters?

Dunno who Forbes is. I thought that was a newspaper which has a shit website it wants you to pay for.
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:55:48 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 18:41:30 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 03/04/2023 03:30, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 02 Apr 2023 19:46:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

To imagine America, just think of any other country 50 years ago.
They evolve slowly over there.

At least America is evolving. The UK has been devolving since they lost
that war they thought they won. How\'s that true Scotsman, Humza Yousaf,
doing?

I wonder whether he puts sugar on his porridge.

I don\'t have a clue what the nuances of that are. I wouldn\'t use
\'porridge\' but when I made oatmeal this weekend I added dried cherries, a
little stevia, and cinnamon. I hope that doesn\'t make me a Scot.

As I understand it, \"real\" Scotsmen regard porridge as a savoury dish,
seasoned with salt, rather than (as everyone else does) a sweet dish,
seasoned with sugar and maybe fruit.

I thought porridge was a basic food back from when times were hard. Like eating bread and water.

To me it looks like something you feed a baby who hasn\'t grown any teeth yet.
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 22:04:50 +0100, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-03, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
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On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 18:41:30 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 03/04/2023 03:30, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 02 Apr 2023 19:46:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

To imagine America, just think of any other country 50 years ago.
They evolve slowly over there.

At least America is evolving. The UK has been devolving since they lost
that war they thought they won. How\'s that true Scotsman, Humza Yousaf,
doing?

I wonder whether he puts sugar on his porridge.

I don\'t have a clue what the nuances of that are. I wouldn\'t use
\'porridge\' but when I made oatmeal this weekend I added dried cherries, a
little stevia, and cinnamon. I hope that doesn\'t make me a Scot.

As I understand it, \"real\" Scotsmen regard porridge as a savoury dish,
seasoned with salt, rather than (as everyone else does) a sweet dish,
seasoned with sugar and maybe fruit.

I probably could eat it with salt and butter. A couple of times I\'ve
forgotten sugar and it was nearly sweet enough. I generally add
raisins, since brown sugar is already in play.

Oatmeal for breakfast every day. Rolled oats, though, so perhaps that\'s
a disqualifier.

I don\'t do breakfast, lunch, etc. I eat what I want when I want.
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 23:02:02 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 03/04/2023 22:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:

\"Real\" Scotsmen also eat Haggis. \'nuf said.

They have been over hunted so there is a ban on hunting Haggis this and
next year to let numbers recover.

You must make sure you shoot equal numbers of male and female, to give them a chance to make more. Male have a longer right leg, female have a longer left leg. They run opposite directions round the hill so they meet.
 
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 14:04:45 +0100, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 05/04/2023 08:19, alan_m wrote:

Here in England we get Faggots. Much the same as the factory produced
Haggis above but made with pig offal instead of sheep offal.

But nowadays faggots seem to be mostly liver,

Surely faggots have the same size liver as a straight person?
 
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 19:59:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 05/04/2023 15:33, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:19:30 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 05/04/2023 00:01, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 03-Apr-23 22:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:



\"Real\" Scotsmen also eat Haggis.  \'nuf said.

But only when they are in season.
No-one has ever managed to successfully farm haggis, they only thrive in
the wild.


I doubt if any American has seen or even tasted real Haggis as the USA
ban the import. Instead they get some artificial factory produced
substitute made from minced sheep offal and oatmeal.

Here in England we get Faggots. Much the same as the factory produced
Haggis above but made with pig offal instead of sheep offal.

That sounds, well, novel. Or repulsive.

I don\'t recall fag(g)ots as being made with offal. Certainly not ONLY
offal. a bit of liver and heart, yes, but mainly minced pork.

We poor provincials have to make do with chicken-apple sausage and
anduille.

Anduille?

It\'s a spicy smoked Cajun pork sausage, when it\'s spelled right.

We get an excellent California andouille here, tamed down for the
local tastes. Genuine Lousiana cajun andouille is flaming hot spicy,
more pain than flavor to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andouille#United_States

It\'s excellent in stews and bean dishes, the classic being Red Beans
and Rice.
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 17:36:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 03/04/2023 17:09, John Larkin wrote:
On 3 Apr 2023 02:30:14 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 02 Apr 2023 19:46:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

To imagine America, just think of any other country 50 years ago. They
evolve slowly over there.

At least America is evolving. The UK has been devolving since they lost
that war they thought they won. How\'s that true Scotsman, Humza Yousaf,
doing? Bad enough to have one named after a fish. What was the matter with
Forbes? Upset the poofters?

England was the cultural and technical driving force of the world, a
long time ago. The US has taken over those roles.

The class structure of many countries drives the best and brightest
individuals to the US.
Utter bollocks. There are 10 times as many acres per head of habitable
land in the USA as in Europe, and ten time as as many resources under it.
The miracles is that middle class americans are not ten times as rich
as Europeans, a tribute to the rapacity of its leaders.
Like any other country,Such success as the US has us *despite* it\'s
(lack of) culture religion ethnicity and political, ideology.

It\'s so big and there are so many different
places and cultures here, it\'s a good place for unusual people to come
and find a place to fit in. I have several very smart and very nice
neighbors with huge incomes and interesting accents.

I think that Putin actually wants the war objectors and draft dodgers
to leave Russia. He wants a country of dumb poor alcoholic patriots,
and he\'ll get it. We\'ll take the troublemakers.

Long term, diffusion of talent dominates progress.

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born
within 15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.

In pakistan, its rare to marry outside your own family

I thought that was Jews.
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:18:04 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 09:09:56 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born within
15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.

My wife was born across the river. It was a short walk. Do the positive
effects offset the negative? Some countries aren\'t sending their best and
brightest.

Did you have to swim across for a quickie?
 
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 17:09:56 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On 3 Apr 2023 02:30:14 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 02 Apr 2023 19:46:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

To imagine America, just think of any other country 50 years ago. They
evolve slowly over there.

At least America is evolving. The UK has been devolving since they lost
that war they thought they won. How\'s that true Scotsman, Humza Yousaf,
doing? Bad enough to have one named after a fish. What was the matter with
Forbes? Upset the poofters?

England was the cultural and technical driving force of the world, a
long time ago. The US has taken over those roles.

The class structure of many countries drives the best and brightest
individuals to the US. It\'s so big and there are so many different
places and cultures here, it\'s a good place for unusual people to come
and find a place to fit in. I have several very smart and very nice
neighbors with huge incomes and interesting accents.

I think that Putin actually wants the war objectors and draft dodgers
to leave Russia. He wants a country of dumb poor alcoholic patriots,
and he\'ll get it. We\'ll take the troublemakers.

Long term, diffusion of talent dominates progress.

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born
within 15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.

It\'s not positive to pollute the gene pool with Mozzies.

Or I suppose you could say we\'re cleaning theirs out.
 
On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 16:07:16 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 16:34:57 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

On 4/3/2023 12:09 PM, John Larkin wrote:


I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born
within 15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.


I wonder how much that has changed. We do have one long distance in the
family, my sister married a guy from England but to counter that my
daughter is married to the boy next door.

proximity effect

I fail to see how that can work with humans.
 
On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 03:50:48 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 23:09:05 +0100, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk
wrote:

On 03/04/2023 20:18, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 09:09:56 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born within
15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.

My wife was born across the river. It was a short walk. Do the positive
effects offset the negative? Some countries aren\'t sending their best and
brightest.

While my wife and I were born in the same English hospital (indeed there
is a 50/50 chance that her mother was the midwife when I was born), both
her parents were born in what is now the Republic of Ireland, but while
it was still part of the UK.

I was born in the back of an already-ancient 1936 Ford.

Born or conceived?
 
On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 1:15:40 AM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 17:09:56 +0100, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On 3 Apr 2023 02:30:14 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 02 Apr 2023 19:46:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

To imagine America, just think of any other country 50 years ago. They
evolve slowly over there.

At least America is evolving. The UK has been devolving since they lost
that war they thought they won. How\'s that true Scotsman, Humza Yousaf,
doing? Bad enough to have one named after a fish. What was the matter with
Forbes? Upset the poofters?

England was the cultural and technical driving force of the world, a
long time ago. The US has taken over those roles.

The class structure of many countries drives the best and brightest
individuals to the US. It\'s so big and there are so many different
places and cultures here, it\'s a good place for unusual people to come
and find a place to fit in. I have several very smart and very nice
neighbors with huge incomes and interesting accents.

I think that Putin actually wants the war objectors and draft dodgers
to leave Russia. He wants a country of dumb poor alcoholic patriots,
and he\'ll get it. We\'ll take the troublemakers.

Long term, diffusion of talent dominates progress.

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born
within 15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.
It\'s not positive to pollute the gene pool with Mozzies.

Most of modern European DNA is descended from a mass migration of Mesopotamian farmers about 7500 years ago.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140917131720.htm

Or I suppose you could say we\'re cleaning theirs out.
 
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:14:58 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:18:04 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 09:09:56 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born
within 15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.

My wife was born across the river. It was a short walk. Do the positive
effects offset the negative? Some countries aren\'t sending their best
and brightest.

Did you have to swim across for a quickie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9V-9dSPb_A
 
On 6 Apr 2023 03:55:53 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 02:44:20 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

On Tue, 04 Apr 2023 05:18:04 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 09:09:56 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born
within 15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.

My wife was born across the river. It was a short walk. Do the positive
effects offset the negative?

Some countries aren\'t sending their best and brightest.

Which ones do you believe those are ?

Mexico, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Belize, Guatemala, Haiti...

Do you think those storming the southern border are all rocket scientists
in disguise? For the most part they didn\'t have the skills to make it at
home.

The US has always attracted outliers, including the brilliant, the
adventurous, and sometimes the criminal. I\'m generally impressed by
the hispanic immigrants here.

We are, both internationally and within the US, brain-draining remote
regions and concntrating talent in or near cities. It\'s impressive how
many CEOs and Nobel winners are foreign-born.

I\'m a CEO! I left Louisiana partly to see if I could compete in
Silicon Valley. The company that I left gradually collapsed.

When I was a kid I won a free subscription to the HP Journal. I
thought Page Mill Road must be close to heaven.
 
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:14:58 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:18:04 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 09:09:56 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I read a claim that, in 1900, people mostly married someone born within
15 miles of themselves. Now we have national and international
immigration diffusion gradients thus positive-feedback effects on
populations and genetics.

My wife was born across the river. It was a short walk. Do the positive
effects offset the negative? Some countries aren\'t sending their best and
brightest.

Did you have to swim across for a quickie?

Only an oaf would cross a river for a quickie.
 
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:40:06 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:23:20 +0100, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On 3 Apr 2023 20:03:50 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 08:17:50 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Grits? Grits is wonderful.

Probably apocryphal but my brother had a story about a Yankee engineer
working at Redstone during the BOMARC project. They were under a lot
of pressure and everyone\'s fuse was a little short.

The engineer went to the same diner every morning for breakfast and
would say \"No grits.\" Being Alabama his order would always come with
grits. Finally he snapped, threw the grits through a plate glass
window saying \"No goddamn grits!\"


Yanks eat cream of wheat and toast Wonder Bread. Hopeless.

White grits. Yellow grits. Cheezy grits. Fried grits. Grits and hash.

Apparently their cheese tastes like cardboard.

White trash cooking usually involves Velveeta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velveeta
 

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