Uninstall Outhouse Excuse?

[Tom Del Rosso]

Jim Thompson wrote:

I can no longer paste (from other programs) into the message *body* of
Eudora Pro v3.0.5, though I can copy and paste from *within* the body.
Really weird!!

Look at it this way. You could use a different OS, but the one you have
pretty much requires IE and its companion OE. I think if you use
Windows you should just install the thing. Its DLLs were probably
installed in the first place, but you didn't notice because the folder
in Program Files wasn't there. You could probably do a full install,
and then delete that folder, keeping the DLLs in Windows\system\. If
that doesn't work you can just delete MSIMN.EXE.

It also sounds like you have to reinstall Eudora and maybe W2k.

I'm thinking about BSD myself. If it's the only good thing that ever
came out of Berkely maybe I should use it.


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[Al Savage]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:01:22 UTC, Jim Thompson
<Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

Is there a way to go back from IE6 to IE5?

IIRC (and it's been several years since I supported Windoze), there is
no way to move backward (I mean, install lower version numbered
instances) of IE. I know that this was a problem I researched for a
client who inadvertantly installed the Active Desktop version of IE
(4.02?) and didn't like it, and we couldn't revert to his previous
version without a wipe. However, when it comes to 'doze, there's always
another expert ready to pipe up.

--
Regards,
Al S.

 

[Mike]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:01:22 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:19:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

In a moment of mental weakness this afternoon I updated my Win2K to
the latest Service Packs/Security Levels.

[snip]

The crashing continues... message says "Explorer has committed an
illegal..."

Is there a way to go back from IE6 to IE5?

I have a directory that seems to contain all the necessities for
installing IE5.5

Another strange phenomenon:

I can no longer paste (from other programs) into the message *body* of
Eudora Pro v3.0.5, though I can copy and paste from *within* the body.
Really weird!!

...Jim Thompson

I know it's a little late to be asking, but why bother to uninstall it? As
long as it's not configured in the first place, it won't be able to find
your mail or news servers. If you do start it by accident, it will start
the configuration wizard, which you can stop easily enough.

-- Mike --

 

[BFoelsch]

Ahhhhh. !!!

I believe that error message refers to WINDOWS explorer, not INTERNET
explorer.

I personally have not experienced that problem with XP, but I did encounter
similar grief with OSes past. Check the knowledgebase, but expand your
search to include references to WINDOWS explorer, you know, the thing that
displays directory trees & content, etc.




"Jim Thompson" <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote in message
news:jhirmv85383fbl34dkq1cmhel7lrcru27o@4ax.com...

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:19:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

In a moment of mental weakness this afternoon I updated my Win2K to
the latest Service Packs/Security Levels.

[snip]

The crashing continues... message says "Explorer has committed an
illegal..."

Is there a way to go back from IE6 to IE5?

I have a directory that seems to contain all the necessities for
installing IE5.5

Another strange phenomenon:

I can no longer paste (from other programs) into the message *body* of
Eudora Pro v3.0.5, though I can copy and paste from *within* the body.
Really weird!!

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Robert Monsen]

"Al Savage" <asavage@iname.com> wrote in message
news:TPu4qbPdipCY-pn2-Rh1ENIG4lfY2@tori...

Um, this is a sort of religion with folks. Do we really want to debate
the, er, "merits" of MS software vs the alternatives, here in these
particular mix of NGs? If you really do, I'll jump in with both feet
and cite references, but that's not really what we're here for, is it?

I wasn't debating anything. I was simply relating my experiences and making
a few simple observations.

Gack. I guess its like religion and politics, don't bring them up in polite
company.

Regards,
Bob Monsen

 

[You]

Jim Thompson <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote in
news:jhirmv85383fbl34dkq1cmhel7lrcru27o@4ax.com:

The crashing continues... message says "Explorer has committed an
illegal..."

Is there a way to go back from IE6 to IE5?

I have a directory that seems to contain all the necessities for
installing IE5.5

Another strange phenomenon:

I can no longer paste (from other programs) into the message *body* of
Eudora Pro v3.0.5, though I can copy and paste from *within* the body.
Really weird!!

...Jim Thompson

Sorry if you've already checked this, but... I have win2K and IE whatever
the hell (still using Netscape 4.7 for mailer though). A few weeks ago
I was encountering the same problems you mentioned, including a failure
message of one of the three svchost processes. Turns out it was side-
effects of an infection by the MSBlast virus... my system wasn't quite
what it expected, so it could never enter its infectious state. If you
haven't already, you may wish to run a virus scan (AVG is free, FWIW).

Hope this helps.



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[meirman]

In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows on Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:31:47 -0400
"BFoelsch" <BFoelsch@snet.ditch.this.net> posted:

Ahhhhh. !!!

I believe that error message refers to WINDOWS explorer, not INTERNET
explorer.

!!! You're right. One of the stupidest things they did is give them
names like that. They should have named it "Media explorer" and
"Email Explorer" too.

And then there is Outlook and Outlook Express. There are some
similarities but iiuc a wealth of differnces, and the many people who
have only heard of the second assume that's what people mean when they
say Outlook.

Why not just call everything "- computer program"? Windows computer
program, Internet computer program, media computer program. Then
everyone could talk about the computer program.

I personally have not experienced that problem with XP, but I did encounter
similar grief with OSes past. Check the knowledgebase, but expand your
search to include references to WINDOWS explorer, you know, the thing that
displays directory trees & content, etc.




"Jim Thompson" <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote in message
news:jhirmv85383fbl34dkq1cmhel7lrcru27o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:19:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

In a moment of mental weakness this afternoon I updated my Win2K to
the latest Service Packs/Security Levels.

[snip]

The crashing continues... message says "Explorer has committed an
illegal..."

Is there a way to go back from IE6 to IE5?

I have a directory that seems to contain all the necessities for
installing IE5.5

Another strange phenomenon:

I can no longer paste (from other programs) into the message *body* of
Eudora Pro v3.0.5, though I can copy and paste from *within* the body.
Really weird!!

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Meirman

If emailing, please let me know whether
or not you are posting the same letter.

Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

 

[ĺnřn˙mřu§]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:01:22 -0700, Jim Thompson <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

In a moment of mental weakness this afternoon I updated my Win2K to
the latest Service Packs/Security Levels.
[snip]
The crashing continues... message says "Explorer has committed an
illegal..."
Is there a way to go back from IE6 to IE5?
I have a directory that seems to contain all the necessities for
installing IE5.5
Another strange phenomenon:
I can no longer paste (from other programs) into the message *body* of
Eudora Pro v3.0.5, though I can copy and paste from *within* the body.
Really weird!!
It sounds like Tom has some of the best advice.

It also sounds like your loosing some of your needed ".DLL" for other programs.
I can't believe that Microsoft doesn't know how to remove their own program
from their own operating system.
Ya, right! (Is this their way of getting back at the courts for the ruling that was
made against them?)

The IT guys were I work put out a memo were they stated that they haven't
had a weekend off in months! Due to all of the Microsoft patches needed!

The last time I checked for my old Windows home system, there were 13
patches needed to get Win98 and IE5 to run safely. How can that be?

How can they keep getting away with it?

 

[Jim Thompson]

Removing the Win2K SP4 "Upgrade" cured all problems... copy/paste
returned and (hopefully) Explorer has stopped crashing (I do note I'm
back to explorer.exe with an old date).

Mike E mentioned that his SysAdmin says SP3 is "golden", but other
readings suggest once you've removed a service pack you can't install
over it.

Anyone know the true "skinny"?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:24:59 -0700, Jim Thompson
<Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

Removing the Win2K SP4 "Upgrade" cured all problems... copy/paste
returned and (hopefully) Explorer has stopped crashing (I do note I'm
back to explorer.exe with an old date).

Mike E mentioned that his SysAdmin says SP3 is "golden", but other
readings suggest once you've removed a service pack you can't install
over it.

Anyone know the true "skinny"?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

I now note that Add/Remove shows I have all hotfixes prior to SP3 so I
probably should just leave well enough alone ;-)

I've learned my lesson... anytime I have an urge to apply any MShit
"upgrades" I'll simply go pour myself another glass of wine and pursue
other urges.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[meirman]

In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows on Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:24:59 -0700 Jim
Thompson <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> posted:

Removing the Win2K SP4 "Upgrade" cured all problems... copy/paste
returned and (hopefully) Explorer has stopped crashing (I do note I'm
back to explorer.exe with an old date).

Mike E mentioned that his SysAdmin says SP3 is "golden", but other
readings suggest once you've removed a service pack you can't install
over it.

Anyone know the true "skinny"?

Your list of groups is long, but I think not the right ones.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

Meirman

If emailing, please let me know whether
or not you are posting the same letter.

Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:24:04 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

I now note that Add/Remove shows I have all hotfixes prior to SP3 so I
probably should just leave well enough alone ;-)

I've learned my lesson... anytime I have an urge to apply any MShit
"upgrades" I'll simply go pour myself another glass of wine and pursue
other urges.

Good idea. I had to remove Win2K SP4 because it was causing problems.
If I hadn't told it to save the files to do a de-install it would have
been very messy indeed. Now running SP3 with most hotfixes.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
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speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:39:35 GMT, Spehro Pefhany <speff@interlog.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:24:04 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

I now note that Add/Remove shows I have all hotfixes prior to SP3 so I
probably should just leave well enough alone ;-)

I've learned my lesson... anytime I have an urge to apply any MShit
"upgrades" I'll simply go pour myself another glass of wine and pursue
other urges.

Good idea. I had to remove Win2K SP4 because it was causing problems.
If I hadn't told it to save the files to do a de-install it would have
been very messy indeed. Now running SP3 with most hotfixes.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

That's what happens on a Friday afternoon... bored... waiting for N to
finish her Girl Scout meeting... nothing to do but stick your hands in
MShit ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Jem Berkes]

Removing the Win2K SP4 "Upgrade" cured all problems... copy/paste
returned and (hopefully) Explorer has stopped crashing (I do note I'm
back to explorer.exe with an old date).

Mike E mentioned that his SysAdmin says SP3 is "golden", but other
readings suggest once you've removed a service pack you can't install
over it.

While on the topic of windows maintenance, beware: Microsoft has just
sneaked Digital Rights Management into the latest Windows Update. There are
some very interesting implications for the future of computers running
'restricted computing' applications. Read up:

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing

"Who holds the keys to your data?"

--
Jem Berkes
http://www.sysdesign.ca/

 

[Keith R. Williams]

In article <bi8smvo1nstpbqtj85q7pguh19vf5ebepi@4ax.com>, Jim-
T@golana-will-get-you.com says...

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:24:59 -0700, Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

Removing the Win2K SP4 "Upgrade" cured all problems... copy/paste
returned and (hopefully) Explorer has stopped crashing (I do note I'm
back to explorer.exe with an old date).

Mike E mentioned that his SysAdmin says SP3 is "golden", but other
readings suggest once you've removed a service pack you can't install
over it.

Anyone know the true "skinny"?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

I now note that Add/Remove shows I have all hotfixes prior to SP3 so I
probably should just leave well enough alone ;-)

You'd also be wise to read the T&C's on SP3 and SP4. You might
choose to go naked in a field of hornets, before signing up to
that!

I've learned my lesson... anytime I have an urge to apply any MShit
"upgrades" I'll simply go pour myself another glass of wine and pursue
other urges.

I like that idea. ...then tomorrow tell BillyG where to pound it

--
Keith

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

ĺnřn˙mřu§ wrote:

The IT guys were I work put out a memo were they stated that they
haven't
had a weekend off in months! Due to all of the Microsoft patches
needed!

Usually when I look at Symantec's site for virus info they have the 6 or
8 latest viruses from the past month. When last I looked it was 8 new
ones in the first 2 days of September, and a few dozen for August.


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[Chuck Harris]

Hi Meirman,

Just so you know, your attempt at spammunging your email address
has been ineffective. It appears in plain clear text in the
"Reply To: " field of your posting. You're going to have to try
a little bit harder.

-Chuck

meirman wrote:

Meirman

If emailing, please let me know whether
or not you are posting the same letter.

Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:39:35 GMT, Spehro Pefhany <speff@interlog.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:24:04 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

I now note that Add/Remove shows I have all hotfixes prior to SP3 so I
probably should just leave well enough alone ;-)

I've learned my lesson... anytime I have an urge to apply any MShit
"upgrades" I'll simply go pour myself another glass of wine and pursue
other urges.

Good idea. I had to remove Win2K SP4 because it was causing problems.
If I hadn't told it to save the files to do a de-install it would have
been very messy indeed. Now running SP3 with most hotfixes.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Spehro,

Did you remove SP4 and then install SP3 without problems? I ran
across a note on one on MShit's pages saying that removing and
re-installing a service pack is not recommended.

What kind of problems were you having with SP4?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[meirman]

In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows on Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:52:56 -0400
Chuck Harris <cfharris@erols.com> posted:

Hi Meirman,

Just so you know, your attempt at spammunging your email address
has been ineffective. It appears in plain clear text in the
"Reply To: " field of your posting. You're going to have to try
a little bit harder.

Thanks, Chuck. I actually knew that. That's why the line at the
bottom only says to change the domain if necessary, because in most
cases, replying will pick up the Reply-to: field.

There was a time when spambots didn't pick up reply-to addresses, I'm
told by someone I pretty much trust. Actually it was someone from
Erols. (Do you read their local newsgroups?) Now more people may be
using the spambots that do pick it up. I say this mostly because I
have gotten spam in which both the addresses were included (even
though only the real address was successful in getting the mail to
me.).

Of course they may have gotten my valid address somewhere else, and
combined it with the invalid one. It seems both Bank of America and
Citibank are giving out email addresses, selling them. I naively
thought I could trust them. But I don't recall offhand if I actually
gave either my email address. Citibank has 1000's of "affiliates" it
seems.

So I'm not sure what to do. I like it when other readers email me
from ng's and I don't want to make it harder on them. And I'm a bit
lethargic. Hmmm?

I appreciate your warning.

-Chuck

meirman wrote:

Meirman

If emailing, please let me know whether
or not you are posting the same letter.

Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

Meirman

If emailing, please let me know whether
or not you are posting the same letter.

Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

 

[Active8]

In article <TPu4qbPdipCY-pn2-h0rXcRldFuI4@tori>, asavage@iname.com
says...

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:01:22 UTC, Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

Is there a way to go back from IE6 to IE5?

IIRC (and it's been several years since I supported Windoze), there is
no way to move backward (I mean, install lower version numbered
instances) of IE. I know that this was a problem I researched for a
client who inadvertantly installed the Active Desktop version of IE
(4.02?) and didn't like it, and we couldn't revert to his previous
version without a wipe. However, when it comes to 'doze, there's always
another expert ready to pipe up.


no expert, but i couldn't go backwards, either.

mike