Trucker Preferential Treatment...

[bitrex]

On 2/14/2022 9:49 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 15-Feb-22 1:03 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 3:57:28 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 2/13/2022 3:59 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:30:49 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over
protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it
should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block
roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

Seems like the truckers blocking the bridge between the US and
Canada has been cleared. I guess those truckers won\'t be carrying
any goods for a while. Who knows what it will take to get their rigs
back once they are out of jail.

More \"peaceful protesters\":

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/14/americas/canada-truckers-protest-monday/index.html


Whatever legitimate driver\'s legitimate grievances may have been it all
gets co-opted by militia nutters and generalized anti-government
whackjobs, the type who\'s mission in life is to protest their inability
to put a gun up the ass of anyone who isn\'t themem...

      Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/02/14/the-nuclear-option-trudeau-invokes-never-before-used-emergencies-act-to-crush-freedom-convoy-n1559158


I don\'t really see why that was necessary. If I park my car in a public
road, blocking traffic, and refuse to move it, I would expect to be
arrested, and see my car towed. It would not be a defence that I was
protesting about something.

Admittedly, I\'m not in Canada, but I would think the law to be roughly
the same there.

Sylvia.

It\'s also illegal to occupy a home and tell police to bug off when they
demand you come out.

But because I\'m a true patriot interested in a fair and balanced
representation of US history I tell children these are photos of
Tienanmen Square:

<http://www.westphillylocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/MOVEfire.jpg>

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 12-Feb-22 4:40 pm, Rick C wrote:

On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 6:18:25 PM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Feb-22 4:56 am, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 6:34:36 AM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 11-Feb-22 12:30 pm, Rick C wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways.
I very much doubt that is the case.

You have not kept up with your news. DeSantis made a bit of a splash some months ago when this bill was signed into law. It prevents civil liability in such a case. Criminal prosecution is always contingent on the willingness of prosecutors to pursue a given event. Consider the Arbery case where prosecution was deferred until the video leaked out.

The law preventing civil liability in Florida has opened the door to extremely violent actions without consequence.

There is a limitation on civil liability in respect of damages suffered
by a person during a riot if they have been convicted of riot. That is
hardly carte blanc for mowing down protesters on a highway.

I think you miss the point. It is a means of encouraging such behavior. Those who would even consider such and act *will* see this as indicating carte blanc.

Then they\'ll find themselves in some considerable strife. The
legislation does not so much as even suggest that it limits criminal
liability.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 15-Feb-22 11:18 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:54:09 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Feb-22 2:00 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:49:16 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Feb-22 1:03 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 3:57:28 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 2/13/2022 3:59 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:30:49 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

Seems like the truckers blocking the bridge between the US and Canada has been cleared. I guess those truckers won\'t be carrying any goods for a while. Who knows what it will take to get their rigs back once they are out of jail.

More \"peaceful protesters\":

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/14/americas/canada-truckers-protest-monday/index.html

Whatever legitimate driver\'s legitimate grievances may have been it all
gets co-opted by militia nutters and generalized anti-government
whackjobs, the type who\'s mission in life is to protest their inability
to put a gun up the ass of anyone who isn\'t themem...

Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/02/14/the-nuclear-option-trudeau-invokes-never-before-used-emergencies-act-to-crush-freedom-convoy-n1559158
I don\'t really see why that was necessary. If I park my car in a public
road, blocking traffic, and refuse to move it, I would expect to be
arrested, and see my car towed. It would not be a defence that I was
protesting about something.

Admittedly, I\'m not in Canada, but I would think the law to be roughly
the same there.

Sylvia.

I got the impression that Trudeau could unilaterally impose it without
a vote of Canada\'s Parliament. That doesn\'t seem right for a free country.
Emergencies by their very nature require immediate action. Mind you,
given how long this has gone on for already, one might question whether
it can now qualify as an emergency.

Anyway, it has to be laid before Parliament within seven days, and
either house of Parliament can vote it down.

Later on, if 10 members of the Senate, or 20 members of the House of
Commons, sign a motion, there must be a debate on whether to revoke the
emergency within 3 days.

So there are significant protections in place to prevent abuse. More
than we have for similar legislation in Australia, where the executive
is forever trying to get more power and less scrutiny.

Sylvia.

I learned something again. Thank you.

Of possible interest to you...

There is litigation regarding the use of emergency powers. It is
continuing even though the emergency powers have been rescinded.

https://theccf.ca/legal-challenge-emergencies-act/

Of course, this can be a twin edged sword. If the court says it won\'t
second-guess executive decisions, then future governments will be
emboldened in their use of the power.

Sylvia.

 

[Flyguy]

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

--

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Hey Ricky, if that were TRUE you would PRODUCE IT, but you DON\'T! So it is just more of your BULLSHIT.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:04:26 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over
protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should
be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and
shut down cities. No?
snipped the usual spam

Hey Ricky, if that were TRUE you would PRODUCE IT, but you DON\'T! So it
is just more of your BULLSHIT.

But of course that law just enables the basic human right of self-defense,
allowing drivers to escape when they are being attacked by mobs that are
blocking the road.

\"Blocking the road\" may be assault, in that it makes the drivers feel threatened, but it\'s not battery, against which the drivers would be entitled to mount a physical defense.

> Cannibal leftists want to outlaw self-defense, for obvious reasons, like to satisfy their creepy need to hurt people.

\"Cannibal leftists\" don\'t actually exist - except in John Doe\'s fevered imagination - so, as usual, his claims about what they might want to do if they did exist tell us quite a bit about his psychotic fantasies, and nothing at all about the real world.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:09:04 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:04:26 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over
protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should
be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and
shut down cities. No?
snipped the usual spam

Hey Ricky, if that were TRUE you would PRODUCE IT, but you DON\'T! So it
is just more of your BULLSHIT.

But of course that law just enables the basic human right of self-defense,
allowing drivers to escape when they are being attacked by mobs that are
blocking the road.
\"Blocking the road\" may be assault, in that it makes the drivers feel threatened, but it\'s not battery, against which the drivers would be entitled to mount a physical defense.
Cannibal leftists want to outlaw self-defense, for obvious reasons, like to satisfy their creepy need to hurt people.
\"Cannibal leftists\" don\'t actually exist - except in John Doe\'s fevered imagination - so, as usual, his claims about what they might want to do if they did exist tell us quite a bit about his psychotic fantasies, and nothing at all about the real world.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

The rhetorical \"cannibal leftists\" DO exist: they demand TOTAL COMPLAINCE, deviate in ANY WAY and you will be cancelled (or maybe just reprimanded as in the case of Caryn Elaine Johnson, aka Whoopi).

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:57:16 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:09:04 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:04:26 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

\"Cannibal leftists\" don\'t actually exist - except in John Doe\'s fevered imagination - so, as usual, his claims about what they might want to do if they did exist tell us quite a bit about his psychotic fantasies, and nothing at all about the real world.

The rhetorical \"cannibal leftists\" DO exist: they demand TOTAL COMPLAINCE, deviate in ANY WAY and you will be cancelled (or maybe just reprimanded as in the case of Caryn Elaine Johnson, aka Whoopi).

Flyguy thinks that Whoopi Goldberg is a cannibal leftist?

This is serious dementia. He needs to get himself admitted to the nearest psychiatric hospital as a matter of urgency. Unless - of course - that\'s where he is posting from, which seems very likely.

Quite why he thinks that a rhetorical cannibal leftist would be any different from the regular - if utterly concocted - cannibal leftists that John Doe witters on about escapes me. The phrase is clearly being used for rhetorical effect, but the effect of spouting nonsense is to make you look stupid..

Neither you nor John Doe seems to mind looking stupid, and you certainly don\'t shrink from giving that impression, but I doubt if you realise quite how stupid you actually look.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:51:49 AM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:57:16 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:09:04 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:04:26 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

\"Cannibal leftists\" don\'t actually exist - except in John Doe\'s fevered imagination - so, as usual, his claims about what they might want to do if they did exist tell us quite a bit about his psychotic fantasies, and nothing at all about the real world.

The rhetorical \"cannibal leftists\" DO exist: they demand TOTAL COMPLAINCE, deviate in ANY WAY and you will be cancelled (or maybe just reprimanded as in the case of Caryn Elaine Johnson, aka Whoopi).
Flyguy thinks that Whoopi Goldberg is a cannibal leftist?

This is serious dementia. He needs to get himself admitted to the nearest psychiatric hospital as a matter of urgency. Unless - of course - that\'s where he is posting from, which seems very likely.

Quite why he thinks that a rhetorical cannibal leftist would be any different from the regular - if utterly concocted - cannibal leftists that John Doe witters on about escapes me. The phrase is clearly being used for rhetorical effect, but the effect of spouting nonsense is to make you look stupid.

Neither you nor John Doe seems to mind looking stupid, and you certainly don\'t shrink from giving that impression, but I doubt if you realise quite how stupid you actually look.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

LOL!!!! SNIPPERMAN can\'t read simple English!!!!! That, of course, IS NOT what I wrote. I suggest that you REREAD it as many times as necessary (10-20 min), and report back.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:40:11 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:51:49 AM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:57:16 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:09:04 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:04:26 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

\"Cannibal leftists\" don\'t actually exist - except in John Doe\'s fevered imagination - so, as usual, his claims about what they might want to do if they did exist tell us quite a bit about his psychotic fantasies, and nothing at all about the real world.

The rhetorical \"cannibal leftists\" DO exist: they demand TOTAL COMPLAINCE, deviate in ANY WAY and you will be cancelled (or maybe just reprimanded as in the case of Caryn Elaine Johnson, aka Whoopi).

Flyguy thinks that Whoopi Goldberg is a cannibal leftist?

This is serious dementia. He needs to get himself admitted to the nearest psychiatric hospital as a matter of urgency. Unless - of course - that\'s where he is posting from, which seems very likely.

Quite why he thinks that a rhetorical cannibal leftist would be any different from the regular - if utterly concocted - cannibal leftists that John Doe witters on about escapes me. The phrase is clearly being used for rhetorical effect, but the effect of spouting nonsense is to make you look stupid.

Neither you nor John Doe seems to mind looking stupid, and you certainly don\'t shrink from giving that impression, but I doubt if you realise quite how stupid you actually look.

LOL!!!! Sloman can\'t read simple English!!!!! That, of course, IS NOT what I wrote.

It isn\'t what Flyguy thinks he wrote. It is implied by what he wrote, even if his reading comprehension isn\'t up to detecting implication.

If he starts off about \"cannibal leftists\" demanding total compliance - presumably of other \"cannibal leftists\" - and then cites Whoopi Goldberg as an example of somebody who wasn\'t compliant enough, he is implying that she is a \"cannibal leftist\".

> I suggest that you REREAD it as many times as necessary (10-20 min), and report back.

If you can manage reading comprehension, which Flyguy clearly can\'t it, doesn\'t take all that long.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Rick C]

The truckers have made their way to Washington. They seem to be circling the beltway at the moment. Well, not at THIS moment. I think they are all still asleep. I\'ve read their intent is to clog traffic on the beltway to get the attention of the governments. I\'m not sure how pissing off people trying to get to work is going to help their cause, unless they really believe there\'s no such thing as bad publicity.

We kept going to work during the beltway sniper incident. How many people did they kill? I forget. We aren\'t afraid of no convoy.

Yeah, given the lowering of Covid mandates, I think these guys are going to sputter out shortly. What if you give a convoy protest and nobody comes?

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