Trucker Preferential Treatment...

[Rick C]

I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 15-Feb-22 2:00 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:49:16 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Feb-22 1:03 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 3:57:28 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 2/13/2022 3:59 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:30:49 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

Seems like the truckers blocking the bridge between the US and Canada has been cleared. I guess those truckers won\'t be carrying any goods for a while. Who knows what it will take to get their rigs back once they are out of jail.

More \"peaceful protesters\":

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/14/americas/canada-truckers-protest-monday/index.html

Whatever legitimate driver\'s legitimate grievances may have been it all
gets co-opted by militia nutters and generalized anti-government
whackjobs, the type who\'s mission in life is to protest their inability
to put a gun up the ass of anyone who isn\'t themem...

Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/02/14/the-nuclear-option-trudeau-invokes-never-before-used-emergencies-act-to-crush-freedom-convoy-n1559158
I don\'t really see why that was necessary. If I park my car in a public
road, blocking traffic, and refuse to move it, I would expect to be
arrested, and see my car towed. It would not be a defence that I was
protesting about something.

Admittedly, I\'m not in Canada, but I would think the law to be roughly
the same there.

Sylvia.

I got the impression that Trudeau could unilaterally impose it without
a vote of Canada\'s Parliament. That doesn\'t seem right for a free country.

Emergencies by their very nature require immediate action. Mind you,
given how long this has gone on for already, one might question whether
it can now qualify as an emergency.

Anyway, it has to be laid before Parliament within seven days, and
either house of Parliament can vote it down.

Later on, if 10 members of the Senate, or 20 members of the House of
Commons, sign a motion, there must be a debate on whether to revoke the
emergency within 3 days.

So there are significant protections in place to prevent abuse. More
than we have for similar legislation in Australia, where the executive
is forever trying to get more power and less scrutiny.

Sylvia.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 12/02/22 03:09, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 8:18:28 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 11/02/22 04:55, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6,
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

Excellent rant:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/11/nolte-truck-drivers-are-the-atlas-that-finally-shrugged/



(but plasma TVs?)

Breitbart? Excellent? John Larkin seems to be a Cursitor Doom level sucker
for right-wing propaganda of the more moronic kind.

\"In fact, you could wipe society’s table clear of every writer, artist,
actor, musician, professor, dancer, reporter, tastemaker, producer,
influencer, teacher, lobbyist, politician, everyone on TV, everyone who
doesn’t get their hands dirty, and our world would keep turning just fine.\"

Not /all/ authors, of course.

Isaac Asimov wrote \"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been
a constant thread winding its way through our political and
cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means
that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge\"

 

[server]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:33:32 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 12/02/22 03:09, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 8:18:28 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 11/02/22 04:55, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6,
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

Excellent rant:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/11/nolte-truck-drivers-are-the-atlas-that-finally-shrugged/



(but plasma TVs?)

Breitbart? Excellent? John Larkin seems to be a Cursitor Doom level sucker
for right-wing propaganda of the more moronic kind.

\"In fact, you could wipe society’s table clear of every writer, artist,
actor, musician, professor, dancer, reporter, tastemaker, producer,
influencer, teacher, lobbyist, politician, everyone on TV, everyone who
doesn’t get their hands dirty, and our world would keep turning just fine.\"

Not /all/ authors, of course.

Isaac Asimov wrote \"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been
a constant thread winding its way through our political and
cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means
that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge\"

You would starve to death without a lot of \"anti-intellectuals\" to
grow and ship your food. I suspect that Asimov would have too.

Democracy means that people agree that they are not superior to
everyone else; that people have differing opinions and different
talents and common rights. Asimov states above that he is superior. He
wrote corny juvenile fiction. He didn\'t feed anyone.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[server]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:56:08 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/11/22 17:45, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 11/02/22 20:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 11/02/22 04:55, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6,
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over
protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it
should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block
roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

         For a practical matter,  there\'s a shortage of truckers
but not of protesters.

Another minor practical matter is that truckers keep us alive.

When blocking roads, truckers (and others) kill people.

The truckers should just stay home and let the urban elites freeze and
starve in the dark.

And pay their bills how - via America\'s excellent social welfare
programs for people who don\'t wanna work?

Let them eat masks.

Om nom nom

The truckers can ignore their bills for a few months. Can the
urbanites ignore their hunger for a few months?

Can the people being transported to hospitals in
ambulances ignore being delayed by minutes?

If truckers had the power to starve anyone en masse in the US you\'d
think they would\'ve used it to get themselves higher wages by now but
that\'s not what happened, average adjusted-for-inflation wages have only
gone down over the past 30 years.

Open borders furnish cheap labor.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 5:03:43 AM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 12-Feb-22 4:40 pm, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 6:18:25 PM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Feb-22 4:56 am, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 6:34:36 AM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 11-Feb-22 12:30 pm, Rick C wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways.
I very much doubt that is the case.

You have not kept up with your news. DeSantis made a bit of a splash some months ago when this bill was signed into law. It prevents civil liability in such a case. Criminal prosecution is always contingent on the willingness of prosecutors to pursue a given event. Consider the Arbery case where prosecution was deferred until the video leaked out.

The law preventing civil liability in Florida has opened the door to extremely violent actions without consequence.

There is a limitation on civil liability in respect of damages suffered
by a person during a riot if they have been convicted of riot. That is
hardly carte blanc for mowing down protesters on a highway.

I think you miss the point. It is a means of encouraging such behavior. Those who would even consider such and act *will* see this as indicating carte blanc.

Then they\'ll find themselves in some considerable strife. The
legislation does not so much as even suggest that it limits criminal
liability.

As has been shown in many other cases, to be at the discretion of the prosecution. Yup, you can\'t be convicted of a crime you are never charged with.

--

Rick C.

-++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:13:16 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:33:32 +0000, Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 12/02/22 03:09, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 8:18:28 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 11/02/22 04:55, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6,
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

Excellent rant:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/11/nolte-truck-drivers-are-the-atlas-that-finally-shrugged/



(but plasma TVs?)

Breitbart? Excellent? John Larkin seems to be a Cursitor Doom level sucker
for right-wing propaganda of the more moronic kind.

\"In fact, you could wipe society’s table clear of every writer, artist,
actor, musician, professor, dancer, reporter, tastemaker, producer,
influencer, teacher, lobbyist, politician, everyone on TV, everyone who
doesn’t get their hands dirty, and our world would keep turning just fine.\"

Not /all/ authors, of course.

Isaac Asimov wrote \"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been
a constant thread winding its way through our political and
cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means
that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge\"
You would starve to death without a lot of \"anti-intellectuals\" to
grow and ship your food. I suspect that Asimov would have too.

Democracy means that people agree that they are not superior to
everyone else; that people have differing opinions and different
talents and common rights. Asimov states above that he is superior. He
wrote corny juvenile fiction. He didn\'t feed anyone.

So the truckers are anti-democracy?

--

Rick C.

+-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 12/02/22 14:13, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:33:32 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 12/02/22 03:09, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 8:18:28 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 11/02/22 04:55, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6,
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

Excellent rant:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/11/nolte-truck-drivers-are-the-atlas-that-finally-shrugged/



(but plasma TVs?)

Breitbart? Excellent? John Larkin seems to be a Cursitor Doom level sucker
for right-wing propaganda of the more moronic kind.

\"In fact, you could wipe society’s table clear of every writer, artist,
actor, musician, professor, dancer, reporter, tastemaker, producer,
influencer, teacher, lobbyist, politician, everyone on TV, everyone who
doesn’t get their hands dirty, and our world would keep turning just fine.\"

Not /all/ authors, of course.

Isaac Asimov wrote \"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been
a constant thread winding its way through our political and
cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means
that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge\"

You would starve to death without a lot of \"anti-intellectuals\" to
grow and ship your food. I suspect that Asimov would have too.

Of course.

And without intellectuals we didn\'t have any of the modern
conveniences, e.g. warm houses and electricity.

Democracy means that people agree that they are not superior to
everyone else;

No, it doesn\'t.

Besides, we don\'t live in a democracy.

that people have differing opinions and different
talents and common rights. Asimov states above that he is superior.

He was superior in some ways, and happy to proclaim it.
But not all ways, and happy to proclaim that too.

He, quite sensibly, railed about people exhibiting
the Dunning-Kruger syndrome.

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:54:09 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 15-Feb-22 2:00 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:49:16 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Feb-22 1:03 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 3:57:28 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 2/13/2022 3:59 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:30:49 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

Seems like the truckers blocking the bridge between the US and Canada has been cleared. I guess those truckers won\'t be carrying any goods for a while. Who knows what it will take to get their rigs back once they are out of jail.

More \"peaceful protesters\":

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/14/americas/canada-truckers-protest-monday/index.html

Whatever legitimate driver\'s legitimate grievances may have been it all
gets co-opted by militia nutters and generalized anti-government
whackjobs, the type who\'s mission in life is to protest their inability
to put a gun up the ass of anyone who isn\'t themem...

Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2022/02/14/the-nuclear-option-trudeau-invokes-never-before-used-emergencies-act-to-crush-freedom-convoy-n1559158
I don\'t really see why that was necessary. If I park my car in a public
road, blocking traffic, and refuse to move it, I would expect to be
arrested, and see my car towed. It would not be a defence that I was
protesting about something.

Admittedly, I\'m not in Canada, but I would think the law to be roughly
the same there.

Sylvia.

I got the impression that Trudeau could unilaterally impose it without
a vote of Canada\'s Parliament. That doesn\'t seem right for a free country.
Emergencies by their very nature require immediate action. Mind you,
given how long this has gone on for already, one might question whether
it can now qualify as an emergency.

Anyway, it has to be laid before Parliament within seven days, and
either house of Parliament can vote it down.

Later on, if 10 members of the Senate, or 20 members of the House of
Commons, sign a motion, there must be a debate on whether to revoke the
emergency within 3 days.

So there are significant protections in place to prevent abuse. More
than we have for similar legislation in Australia, where the executive
is forever trying to get more power and less scrutiny.

Sylvia.

I learned something again. Thank you.

 

[server]

Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:su8l25$igt$2
@dont-email.me:

Besides, we don\'t live in a democracy.

Yes, we do. HERE in the US at least.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 1:13:16 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:33:32 +0000, Tom Gardner<spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/02/22 03:09, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 8:18:28 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 11/02/22 04:55, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6, > gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

\"In fact, you could wipe society’s table clear of every writer, artist,
actor, musician, professor, dancer, reporter, tastemaker, producer,
influencer, teacher, lobbyist, politician, everyone on TV, everyone who
doesn’t get their hands dirty, and our world would keep turning just fine.\"

Not /all/ authors, of course.

Isaac Asimov wrote \"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been
a constant thread winding its way through our political and
cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means
that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge\"
You would starve to death without a lot of \"anti-intellectuals\" to
grow and ship your food. I suspect that Asimov would have too.

Democracy means that people agree that they are not superior to
everyone else; that people have differing opinions and different
talents and common rights. Asimov states above that he is superior. He
wrote corny juvenile fiction. He didn\'t feed anyone.

Asimov did get a Ph.D. in Chemistry. His fiction wasn\'t either corny or juvenile - it was highly regarded when he wrote it. He made a lot more money out of his popular science writing, which was excellent.

He wasn\'t in the business of growing food. The people who are grow more food when they listen to chemists, but farmers do tend to be anti-intellectual..

The Australian Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) spent money with sociologists to work out how to get farmers to pay more attention to science-based advice, and the answer turned out to be to concentrate on the farmers who were more susceptible to the scientific advice. When they started making more money by growing more food, the other farmers paid attention to what they were doing.

Being anti-intellectual isn\'t a virtue.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 1:15:01 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:56:08 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/22 17:45, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 11/02/22 20:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner <spam...@blueyonder..co.uk> wrote:
On 11/02/22 04:55, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6, gnuarm.del....@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

If truckers had the power to starve anyone en masse in the US you\'d
think they would\'ve used it to get themselves higher wages by now but
that\'s not what happened, average adjusted-for-inflation wages have only
gone down over the past 30 years.

Open borders furnish cheap labor.

So does union-busting. The US political system is more responsive to the wishes of the rich - capital - than it is to labour.

Over the last forty years pretty much all the increases in the productivity of the US economy have ended up making the top 10% of the US income distribution richer. The remaining 90% have stayed pretty much where they were when Reagan came to power. Some groups within that 90% have gotten swapped around and it sounds as if the truckers haven\'t done well.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 2/11/22 16:18, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 11/02/22 04:55, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

For a practical matter, there\'s a shortage of truckers but not of protesters.

Another minor practical matter is that truckers keep us alive.

When blocking roads, truckers (and others) kill people.

The truckers should just stay home and let the urban elites freeze and
starve in the dark.

And pay their bills how - via America\'s excellent social welfare
programs for people who don\'t wanna work?

Let them eat masks.

Om nom nom

The truckers can ignore their bills for a few months. Can the
urbanites ignore their hunger for a few months?

Excellent rant:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/11/nolte-truck-drivers-are-the-atlas-that-finally-shrugged/

(but plasma TVs?)

\"Anyone familiar with my scribbling knows that I separate modern society
into two categories: World Turners and The Useless.\"

A famous German wrote a book on the same topic it was called \"Mein
Kampf\" I wonder if the Breitbart editor has read it.

 

[bitrex]

On 2/13/22 00:51, bitrex wrote:

On 2/11/22 16:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 11/02/22 04:55, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6,
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over
protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary,
it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to
block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

         For a practical matter,  there\'s a shortage of truckers
but not of protesters.

Another minor practical matter is that truckers keep us alive.

When blocking roads, truckers (and others) kill people.

The truckers should just stay home and let the urban elites freeze and
starve in the dark.

And pay their bills how - via America\'s excellent social welfare
programs for people who don\'t wanna work?

Let them eat masks.

Om nom nom

The truckers can ignore their bills for a few months. Can the
urbanites ignore their hunger for a few months?

Excellent rant:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/11/nolte-truck-drivers-are-the-atlas-that-finally-shrugged/


(but plasma TVs?)


\"Anyone familiar with my scribbling knows that I separate modern society
into two categories: World Turners and The Useless.\"

A famous German wrote a book on the same topic it was called \"Mein
Kampf\" I wonder if the Breitbart editor has read it.

Correction, a famous Austrian painter, rather

 

[bitrex]

On 2/12/22 10:51, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 12/02/22 14:13, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:33:32 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 12/02/22 03:09, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 8:18:28 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:18:39 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:17 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 2/11/2022 8:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:03:25 +0000, Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 11/02/22 04:55, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:07:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6,
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

Excellent rant:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/11/nolte-truck-drivers-are-the-atlas-that-finally-shrugged/




(but plasma TVs?)

Breitbart? Excellent?  John Larkin seems to be a Cursitor Doom level
sucker
for right-wing propaganda of the more moronic kind.

\"In fact, you could wipe society’s table clear of every writer, artist,
actor, musician, professor, dancer, reporter, tastemaker, producer,
influencer, teacher, lobbyist, politician, everyone on TV, everyone who
doesn’t get their hands dirty, and our world would keep turning just
fine.\"

Not /all/ authors, of course.

Isaac Asimov wrote \"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been
a constant thread winding its way through our political and
cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means
that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge\"

You would starve to death without a lot of \"anti-intellectuals\" to
grow and ship your food. I suspect that Asimov would have too.

Of course.

And without intellectuals we didn\'t have any of the modern
conveniences, e.g. warm houses and electricity.


Democracy means that people agree that they are not superior to
everyone else;

No, it doesn\'t.

Besides, we don\'t live in a democracy.


that people have differing opinions and different
talents and common rights. Asimov states above that he is superior.

He was superior in some ways, and happy to proclaim it.
But not all ways, and happy to proclaim that too.

He, quite sensibly, railed about people exhibiting
the Dunning-Kruger syndrome.

\"Anyone familiar with my scribbling knows that I separate modern society
into two categories: World Turners and The Useless.

Me? I’m no World Turner. I’m one of The Useless.\"

And look how far being useless took him! All the way to an editor of
Breitbart!

Trump-ism: a con perpetuated by self-defined useless people. These guys
must be chuckling all the way to the bank over how desperate many
Americans are to have someone tell them the truth, no matter how stupid
a truth it is

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

fredag den 11. februar 2022 kl. 02.30.49 UTC+1 skrev gnuarm.del...@gmail.com:

I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

if you think running over people or blowing up truckers is ok, you must not be very good with common sense either

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-running-over-protesters-blo-idUSKBN23B39U

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

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For a practical matter, there\'s a shortage of truckers but not of protesters.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:07:23 PM UTC-5, dean...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

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For a practical matter, there\'s a shortage of truckers but not of protesters.

But how much good are truckers if they block roads instead of hauling goods over them?

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[bitrex]

On 2/10/2022 8:30 PM, Rick C wrote:

I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.

Remarkably it looks like every state legislature had the good sense to
notice that the potential civil liability between driving a vehicle into
a person by accident vs. intentionally was already adequately covered by
other laws.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:36:12 PM UTC-5, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:

fredag den 11. februar 2022 kl. 02.30.49 UTC+1 skrev gnuarm.del...@gmail.com:
I believe there are places that have said it is ok to run over protesters if they are blocking major highways. By corollary, it should be ok to blow up trucker\'s rigs if they are used to block roads and shut down cities. No?

I never was very good at understanding legal stuff.
if you think running over people or blowing up truckers is ok, you must not be very good with common sense either

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-running-over-protesters-blo-idUSKBN23B39U

Your reading of my post would seem to show a lack of comprehension. Where did I say anything about it being ok with *me* to \"blow up\" truckers\' rigs??? I\'m asking about the law.

\"Under the law’s provisions, those driving on a road or highway while a protest is occurring are granted civil immunity protections if they drive their vehicles into the crowd, causing harm to those taking part in the demonstration. This is similar to an Oklahoma law that was recently passed by the state legislature, which also provides protections for drivers who use their vehicles to harm groups exercising their First Amendment rights of speech and assembly.\"

So there are states where it seems to be ok in at least a civil sense to run over protesters.

\"Under the law’s provisions, those driving on a road or highway while a protest is occurring are granted civil immunity protections if they drive their vehicles into the crowd, causing harm to those taking part in the demonstration. This is similar to an Oklahoma law that was recently passed by the state legislature, which also provides protections for drivers who use their vehicles to harm groups exercising their First Amendment rights of speech and assembly.\"

https://truthout.org/articles/desantis-signs-bill-giving-vehicle-drivers-civil-protections-to-hit-protesters/

Or perhaps this web site is misinterpreting the laws in those two states? I\'m willing to bet those laws are not Constitutional and would be struck down in an appropriate case.

So maybe it is not \"ok\" to blow up truckers\' rigs, but clearly it would be \"ok\" to run them over once outside their vehicles. That\'s the law in Florida!

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