Troll Poll

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:16:25 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum


I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.


Yeah it's sad. A warning to us all that, 'grumpy old man' is a
trap that is easy for old men to fall into.

Retiring is deadly to the mind and body. If you don't keep a real job,
you can still have interests, design circuits, discover things, help
people, volunteer, maybe be a consultant.

Or turn in to an endlessly squabbling old hen, which is not nearly as
much fun.

I like old British novels, and I'm always astounded that the British
upper-classes didn't DO anything. They actually had contempt for
people who did things. How could they stand the boredom?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.

"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 10/01/20 17:46, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:16:25 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum


I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.


Yeah it's sad. A warning to us all that, 'grumpy old man' is a
trap that is easy for old men to fall into.

Retiring is deadly to the mind and body. If you don't keep a real job,
you can still have interests, design circuits, discover things, help
people, volunteer, maybe be a consultant.

Or turn in to an endlessly squabbling old hen, which is not nearly as
much fun.

I like old British novels, and I'm always astounded that the British
upper-classes didn't DO anything. They actually had contempt for
people who did things. How could they stand the boredom?

Back then there were far fewer distractions, so people were
more used to being bored. I miss that; being bored as a kid
was a great incentive to find something interesting to make/do,
and to let the imagination run free.

Plus intelligence was never a benefit for the ruling class,
and their education was not a high priority. It was more
important that they were able to "read" people so they could
get them to do what they wanted.

Classic example: Princess Di, who knew she was as thick as
two short planks, but managed to charm everyone. By many
accounts Prince Andrew was the same, except his charm was
vestigial.

 

[Dominique Coreos]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:46:48 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

I like old British novels, and I'm always astounded that the British
upper-classes didn't DO anything. They actually had contempt for
people who did things. How could they stand the boredom?

Not at all, John. They played a lot of sports and games. In fact they
invented a disproportionately large number of games and sports, many
of which have since spread throughout the world and developed massive
followings.

--

"The BEST Deal is NO DEAL"

 

> And there are still nations using 286s and POTS modems.

I doubt many, but...

Actually I kinda agree. It is easier to read shorter lines, that's why well written ad text, flyers an newspapers uses small columns instead of dragging one line from stem to stern. One problem is I don't now how to implement it here.

For example if I decreased the window size, yes they are scalable both ways on Googlshit, when it wordwraps for me it is not going to insert line feeds for you.

So I would have to remember to hit enter after getting about 3/5ths across the screen. More for some people because I use a power resolution - easier to see.

And newer Windows, Decadent LINUX User, just removes options and functionality so I wouldn't hope for anything better.

For a time I couldn't get to Usenet, anywhere in the house. I was thinking the ISP doesn't like that and I was going to tear them a new asshole, I talk to the guy on the phone and he never heard of Usenet. Yeah, I they tell me I have cancer ATT will be paying out some insurance. I mean;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4ZJm7dh7g

One day I might "empower" them. Like with 240VAC at 100 amps, though I would prefer not to do it at home.

Did I ever tell you I blew out half a cable company one time ? I was working on a tuner in a hot chassis set and somehow my isolator was gone. A few hours later they were out in a truck changing something (an amp no doubt) that was bigger than two breadboxes. I told them at work - "Just keep your mouth shut !". We worked alot without isolation there, and I charged them for it. I also demanded a ten buck cash bonus every time I bled, twice that if it was their fault. So I wonder what would happen to the phone company. And now they got these boxes that are lockable but they are plastic so they mean nothing.

I did not mean to do them like that, in fact "Who the FUCK switched my cable lines ?". But Ma bell, I will get you. Yeah, give me cancer with only a week to live and see what happens.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:39:28 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 09/01/20 21:55, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 19:38:37 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 09/01/20 15:50, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:06:16 +0000, Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:

On 08/01/20 15:34, Michael Terrell wrote:
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.

Yes!


No, in the traditional usenet meaning.

He often makes knowledgeable and perceptive posts.

It also appears his text editor has certain comments encoded as easily
invoked keystrokes that are then macro expanded. That detracts from his
helpful posts.

Alternatively, if he is a troll, then so are /many/ other posters on this
forum.

Posting on-topic is not trolling.

It can be, according to the normal usenet concept
of trolling:

"Trolling – (verb), as it relates to internet, is
the deliberate act of making random unsolicited and/or
controversial comments on various internet forums with
the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction
from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling

That happens a *lot* here

But I suggest that almost any thread or post that's about electronics
is appropriate. The name of the group includes "design" which benefits
from some amount of wandering around.

Or actually, requires some wandering around. I've got useful ideas
here, often unrelated to the original post.

True, but unrelated to the definition of trolling.

OK, let's define "troll" as any post which is posted in order to
invoke any responses from anyone.

Usenet wastes too much backbone bandwidth anyhow.

Design by more than one person is brainstorming. That doesn't work
well when critical, dogmatic, personality-driven people are present.

The critical faculties have to be turned off during phase1,
the ideas generation phase. That is difficult for some people.

The critical faculties have to be partially turned on during
phase1, the ideas consolidation and evaluation phase


In real life, I just don't invite people like that. But brainstorming
in public is difficult.

Yes, to the point where it is unlikely to come up with a
useful idea. So I wouldn't try it.

I do get useful ideas here, from a few good people. And sometimes just
stating a problem in print helps to think about it.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[bitrex]

On 1/8/20 12:44 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:11:10 PM UTC-5, bule...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum

People don't like Bill because he is a troll. But that doesn't mean he's not right. He often has good insight and knowledge. But people don't like when he is right and they bicker with him making them even more unhappy.

The real irony is that nearly everyone who argues with him is also trolling. At the top of that is JL of course along with Mr. Mike "I know what I like an YOU ain't it" Terrell. God, I guess the guy has a crappy life at this point, but really? You have to be that pissed off and sour? I know when I was gimping around I didn't take it out on people. But he does seem to have it a lot worse and has little prospect of it ever improving.

Whatever. This group is what it is. Most of the crankies here are getting old. In another 5 or 10 years they will all be dead or won't be able to type anymore.

Gotta pay the troll toll

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wTNtlya2A>

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 10/01/20 21:53, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:39:28 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 09/01/20 21:55, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 19:38:37 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 09/01/20 15:50, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:06:16 +0000, Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:

On 08/01/20 15:34, Michael Terrell wrote:
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.

Yes!


No, in the traditional usenet meaning.

He often makes knowledgeable and perceptive posts.

It also appears his text editor has certain comments encoded as easily
invoked keystrokes that are then macro expanded. That detracts from his
helpful posts.

Alternatively, if he is a troll, then so are /many/ other posters on this
forum.

Posting on-topic is not trolling.

It can be, according to the normal usenet concept
of trolling:

"Trolling – (verb), as it relates to internet, is
the deliberate act of making random unsolicited and/or
controversial comments on various internet forums with
the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction
from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling

That happens a *lot* here

But I suggest that almost any thread or post that's about electronics
is appropriate. The name of the group includes "design" which benefits
from some amount of wandering around.

Or actually, requires some wandering around. I've got useful ideas
here, often unrelated to the original post.

True, but unrelated to the definition of trolling.


OK, let's define "troll" as any post which is posted in order to
invoke any responses from anyone.

Ah, the Humpty Dumpty approach, where "glory" means
"a nice knock-down argument".

Communication requires a common definition of words.


> Usenet wastes too much backbone bandwidth anyhow.

Not for a few decades it hasn't. Videos of cats and
farcebook are much more significant.

Design by more than one person is brainstorming. That doesn't work
well when critical, dogmatic, personality-driven people are present.

The critical faculties have to be turned off during phase1,
the ideas generation phase. That is difficult for some people.

The critical faculties have to be partially turned on during
phase1, the ideas consolidation and evaluation phase


In real life, I just don't invite people like that. But brainstorming
in public is difficult.

Yes, to the point where it is unlikely to come up with a
useful idea. So I wouldn't try it.

I do get useful ideas here, from a few good people. And sometimes just
stating a problem in print helps to think about it.

Yes, and a well recognised phenomenon. But I wouldn't
call it brainstorming.

 

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:2a3de93b-4993-473f-a2a0-2848274fe9b1@googlegroups.com:

And newer Windows, Decadent LINUX User, just removes options and
functionality so I wouldn't hope for anything better.

That WAS why Usenet ALWAYS 'worked'. Because you could even 'use' it
on a VT100 terminal.

Bill has no clue and has spent some time since googling it up so he
can act as if he has the experience to profess on the subject. His std
MO. He was wrong this morning, and he'll be wrong again when he
continues to spout off about it.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 4:46:56 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:16:25 -0800 (PST), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum


I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.


Yeah it's sad. A warning to us all that, 'grumpy old man' is a
trap that is easy for old men to fall into.

Retiring is deadly to the mind and body. If you don't keep a real job,
you can still have interests, design circuits, discover things, help
people, volunteer, maybe be a consultant.

https://site.ieee.org/nsw/files/2019/10/Circuit_October_2019-v7.pdf

John Larkin doesn't seem to have noticed that I've been active in the local branch of the IEEE ever since I got settled in NSW.

Or turn in to an endlessly squabbling old hen, which is not nearly as
much fun.

Complaining that other people should design circuits and admire Trump.

I like old British novels, and I'm always astounded that the British
upper-classes didn't DO anything. They actually had contempt for
people who did things. How could they stand the boredom?

P.G. Wodehouse was a comedian. The British upper classes spent most of their time exercising power and making money, but that doesn't lend itself to comedy.

His novels do include

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roderick_Spode

who was a lampoon of Oswald Mosley (Black Shorts versus Black Shirts), and made his money by designing and marketing ladies underwear. Wodehouse did make some concessions to the real world. Aspiring to political power can be comical - as Trump illustrates today.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 8:53:27 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:39:28 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 09/01/20 21:55, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 19:38:37 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 09/01/20 15:50, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:06:16 +0000, Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:

On 08/01/20 15:34, Michael Terrell wrote:
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.

Yes!

No, in the traditional usenet meaning.

He often makes knowledgeable and perceptive posts.

It also appears his text editor has certain comments encoded as easily
invoked keystrokes that are then macro expanded. That detracts from his
helpful posts.

Alternatively, if he is a troll, then so are /many/ other posters on this forum.

Posting on-topic is not trolling.

It can be, according to the normal usenet concept
of trolling:

"Trolling – (verb), as it relates to internet, is
the deliberate act of making random unsolicited and/or
controversial comments on various internet forums with
the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction
from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling

That happens a *lot* here

But I suggest that almost any thread or post that's about electronics
is appropriate. The name of the group includes "design" which benefits
from some amount of wandering around.

Or actually, requires some wandering around. I've got useful ideas
here, often unrelated to the original post.

True, but unrelated to the definition of trolling.

OK, let's define "troll" as any post which is posted in order to
invoke any responses from anyone.

That covers anything that qualifies as communication. It's much too broad to be useful.

> Usenet wastes too much backbone bandwidth anyhow.

Define "wastes". Lots of us read what gets posted, so we find it useful.

Design by more than one person is brainstorming. That doesn't work
well when critical, dogmatic, personality-driven people are present.

The critical faculties have to be turned off during phase1,
the ideas generation phase. That is difficult for some people.

The critical faculties have to be partially turned on during
phase1, the ideas consolidation and evaluation phase

In real life, I just don't invite people like that. But brainstorming
in public is difficult.

Yes, to the point where it is unlikely to come up with a
useful idea. So I wouldn't try it.

I do get useful ideas here, from a few good people. And sometimes just
stating a problem in print helps to think about it.

That isn't always easy. Translating what you feel about a circuit into intelligible sentences can take quite a bit of effort, but it can be a very useful exercise.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 11:33:31 AM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:2a3de93b-4993-473f-a2a0-2848274fe9b1@googlegroups.com:

And newer Windows, Decadent LINUX User, just removes options and
functionality so I wouldn't hope for anything better.

That WAS why Usenet ALWAYS 'worked'. Because you could even 'use' it
on a VT100 terminal.

A modern processor could format free text so that a VT100 terminal could display it. And somebody in the Linux community has probably done it.

Bill has no clue and has spent some time since googling it up so he
can act as if he has the experience to profess on the subject.

I use Google to find a nice neat explanation that I can post a link to. Much quicker than writing my own. I do read them for accuracy.

His std MO. He was wrong this morning, and he'll be wrong again when he
continues to spout off about it.

DLUNU thinks that everybody who disagrees with him is wrong. Krw has the same problem, in an much more advanced form. Krw can't conceive that he might be wrong - DLUNU merely has trouble understanding that he might be wrong.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[amdx]

On 1/10/2020 11:16 AM, George Herold wrote:

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum


I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.


Yeah it's sad. A warning to us all that, 'grumpy old man' is a
trap that is easy for old men to fall into.

There was a period of time when Jim Thompson (RIP) was, well,
just acting like an ass. I called him on it many times over
a several month period. His behavior on the group finally did improve.
Let's hope that this little highlighting of the problem will cause
the deniers ego let him rethink his actions and make a change.

Mikek

George H.
Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[amdx]

On 1/10/2020 3:50 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

And there are still nations using 286s and POTS modems.

I doubt many, but...

Actually I kinda agree. It is easier to read shorter lines, that's why well written ad text, flyers an newspapers uses small columns instead of dragging one line from stem to stern. One problem is I don't now how to implement it here.

I carried the short line over to my forum posts, I got this from a
forum member, "I've wondered for a while: why do your posts always start
new lines randomly in the middle of sentences?" This kinda confused me,
it wasn't a good explanation of what she was trying to convey. After a
couple of exchanges it was just the short line length that she noted,
and was attempting to correct it, and have me make full length lines.
I agree, shorter line lengths are easier to read.

Mikek

For example if I decreased the window size, yes they are scalable both ways on Googlshit, when it wordwraps for me it is not going to insert line feeds for you.

So I would have to remember to hit enter after getting about 3/5ths across the screen. More for some people because I use a power resolution - easier to see.

And newer Windows, Decadent LINUX User, just removes options and functionality so I wouldn't hope for anything better.

For a time I couldn't get to Usenet, anywhere in the house. I was thinking the ISP doesn't like that and I was going to tear them a new asshole, I talk to the guy on the phone and he never heard of Usenet. Yeah, I they tell me I have cancer ATT will be paying out some insurance. I mean;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4ZJm7dh7g

One day I might "empower" them. Like with 240VAC at 100 amps, though I would prefer not to do it at home.

Did I ever tell you I blew out half a cable company one time ? I was working on a tuner in a hot chassis set and somehow my isolator was gone. A few hours later they were out in a truck changing something (an amp no doubt) that was bigger than two breadboxes. I told them at work - "Just keep your mouth shut !". We worked alot without isolation there, and I charged them for it. I also demanded a ten buck cash bonus every time I bled, twice that if it was their fault. So I wonder what would happen to the phone company. And now they got these boxes that are lockable but they are plastic so they mean nothing.

I did not mean to do them like that, in fact "Who the FUCK switched my cable lines ?". But Ma bell, I will get you. Yeah, give me cancer with only a week to live and see what happens.

 

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:1a579a43-f6b4-41f5-8518-02f06ad5c915@googlegroups.com:

A modern processor could format free text so that a VT100 terminal
could display it. And somebody in the Linux community has probably
done it.

You STILL do not get it.

Usenet caters to all, including folks without your precious 'modern
processor'.

Squirm, Billy, squirm!

 

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:1a579a43-f6b4-41f5-8518-02f06ad5c915@googlegroups.com:

His std MO. He was wrong this morning, and he'll be wrong
again when he
continues to spout off about it.

DLUNU thinks that everybody who disagrees with him is wrong. Krw
has the same problem, in an much more advanced form. Krw can't
conceive that he might be wrong - DLUNU merely has trouble
understanding that he might be wrong.

No, you retarded fuck. You are doing it again.

The topic is Usenet, not your inane constant response to everyone
that they are wrong and you are not and they cannot even see it.

Sorry, CHUMP, but you are wrong and the proof is that you cannot
even argue or debate the topic without this retarded claim being
fired into it.

USENET, idiot. Not your ill brained opinion.

You said you know why they have the line length limit, yet you
never stated your claim with a single fact.

Are you a graduate of the Donald J. Trump liar's college?

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 9:49:21 PM UTC-5, amdx wrote:

On 1/10/2020 11:16 AM, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum


I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.


Yeah it's sad. A warning to us all that, 'grumpy old man' is a
trap that is easy for old men to fall into.


There was a period of time when Jim Thompson (RIP) was, well,
just acting like an ass. I called him on it many times over
a several month period. His behavior on the group finally did improve.
Let's hope that this little highlighting of the problem will cause
the deniers ego let him rethink his actions and make a change.

Mikek

I think you are going to need a lot of salt for a lot of other poster's food if that's the way you are going to try to cook.

Bill's not the only poster making problems here. In fact, I don't see where he particularly stands out in this crowd.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[amdx]

On 1/10/2020 9:08 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 9:49:21 PM UTC-5, amdx wrote:
On 1/10/2020 11:16 AM, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum


I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.


Yeah it's sad. A warning to us all that, 'grumpy old man' is a
trap that is easy for old men to fall into.


There was a period of time when Jim Thompson (RIP) was, well,
just acting like an ass. I called him on it many times over
a several month period. His behavior on the group finally did improve.
Let's hope that this little highlighting of the problem will cause
the deniers ego let him rethink his actions and make a change.

Mikek

I think you are going to need a lot of salt for a lot of other poster's food if that's the way you are going to try to cook.

That's me being optimistic.

Bill's not the only poster making problems here. In fact, I don't see where he particularly stands out in this crowd.

I certainly noticed him making problems, and he stood out in this
crowd. Maybe you noticed others.
Mikek

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 1:49:21 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:

On 1/10/2020 11:16 AM, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum


I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.


Yeah it's sad. A warning to us all that, 'grumpy old man' is a
trap that is easy for old men to fall into.


There was a period of time when Jim Thompson (RIP) was, well,
just acting like an ass. I called him on it many times over
a several month period. His behavior on the group finally did improve.
Let's hope that this little highlighting of the problem will cause
the deniers ego let him rethink his actions and make a change.

I haven't got much hope that John Larkin's behaviour will improve.

He's no more likely than I am to think that what he is currently doing is wrong, albeit this may be for different reasons.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:c061372f-3095-4b4a-ae61-6c34d776b99f@googlegroups.com:

He's no more likely than I am to think that what he is currently
doing is wrong,

Bwuahahahahahahahahaha!

The one thing you have gotten correct!

Must be that R complex thing.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 2:02:54 PM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:1a579a43-f6b4-41f5-8518-02f06ad5c915@googlegroups.com:

A modern processor could format free text so that a VT100 terminal
could display it. And somebody in the Linux community has probably
done it.

You STILL do not get it.

Usenet caters to all, including folks without your precious 'modern
processor'.

Just like the roads cater to people with horse-drawn wagons.

> Squirm, Billy, squirm!

DLUNU is the one who doesn't get it. He's even less likely to squirm about defects that other people think they see in his reasoning than I am, and that reflect the fact that his reasoning does have quite a few gaps
..
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney