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F Murtz

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I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?
 
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:np6v0a$n4d$1@dont-email.me...
I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?
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Complain to Ebay, not as described
 
Phi wrote:
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:np6v0a$n4d$1@dont-email.me...


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one.
My only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send
it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Complain to Ebay, not as described
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Done all that, (original transaction 11 may) exhausted all ebay and
paypal dispute channels over the past months.
Pay pal has ended dispute because I did not send it back
ebay is having a last ditch effort to get him to send another)
 
On 19/08/2016 14:13, F Murtz wrote:
Phi wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:np6v0a$n4d$1@dont-email.me...


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one.
My only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send
it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Complain to Ebay, not as described
Done all that, (original transaction 11 may) exhausted all ebay and
paypal dispute channels over the past months.
Pay pal has ended dispute because I did not send it back
ebay is having a last ditch effort to get him to send another)
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In the UK eBay used to send a pre-paid label, has that stopped?

They also claimed they would refund postage, has that stopped?

The one time I had issues with a cooker was where the seller said they
were moving and then ignored all further correspondence, including eBay
and PayPal. I wasn't going to dump unwanted litter at the seller's address.

After they closed the case my simple solution was to write to PayPal UK
in London (they have to have a UK address because they're a bank) and
threaten court action. 2 weeks later I received a full refund from eBay.

Of cause Australia might be different, but then this is uk.d-i-y!
 
Fredxxx wrote:
On 19/08/2016 14:13, F Murtz wrote:
Phi wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:np6v0a$n4d$1@dont-email.me...


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one.
My only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send
it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Complain to Ebay, not as described
Done all that, (original transaction 11 may) exhausted all ebay and
paypal dispute channels over the past months.
Pay pal has ended dispute because I did not send it back
ebay is having a last ditch effort to get him to send another)

In the UK eBay used to send a pre-paid label, has that stopped?

They also claimed they would refund postage, has that stopped?

The one time I had issues with a cooker was where the seller said they
were moving and then ignored all further correspondence, including eBay
and PayPal. I wasn't going to dump unwanted litter at the seller's address.

After they closed the case my simple solution was to write to PayPal UK
in London (they have to have a UK address because they're a bank) and
threaten court action. 2 weeks later I received a full refund from eBay.

Of cause Australia might be different, but then this is uk.d-i-y!
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I cross posted to more groups than I have before hoping forlornly that
mr fruitbig 222 may hear of it. :) :) :) Maybe I should learn facebook
and twittle
 
Well yes if you claim for the postage as well, which is what I'd have done.
Brian

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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:np6v0a$n4d$1@dont-email.me...
I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?
Click to expand...
 
On 19/08/16 14:13, F Murtz wrote:
Phi wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:np6v0a$n4d$1@dont-email.me...


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one.
My only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send
it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Complain to Ebay, not as described
Done all that, (original transaction 11 may) exhausted all ebay and
paypal dispute channels over the past months.
Pay pal has ended dispute because I did not send it back
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Just claim you did, but it never arrived.

That's what all ebay sellers do.

And buyers toos. Take the package claim it never landed

ebay is having a last ditch effort to get him to send another)
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Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.
 
Brian Gaff wrote:
Well yes if you claim for the postage as well, which is what I'd have done.
Brian
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This is similar same seller .
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-3-LCD-Screen-Car-Rearview-Headrest-Mirror-Monitor-For-Car-Reversing-Camera-FB-/182066926897?hash=item2a6408d531:g:gswAAOSwQjNW9XIU

http://tinyurl.com/zug758n

It has a bit I did not see originally
30 days money back if you pay postage, so I was stuffed from the
beginning but he should have sent me a new one but wanted me to return
old broken one first even though he could see the damage from my photos.
 
On 19/08/16 16:56, F Murtz wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
Well yes if you claim for the postage as well, which is what I'd have
done.
Brian

This is similar same seller .
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-3-LCD-Screen-Car-Rearview-Headrest-Mirror-Monitor-For-Car-Reversing-Camera-FB-/182066926897?hash=item2a6408d531:g:gswAAOSwQjNW9XIU


http://tinyurl.com/zug758n

It has a bit I did not see originally
30 days money back if you pay postage, so I was stuffed from the
beginning but he should have sent me a new one but wanted me to return
old broken one first even though he could see the damage from my photos.
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Well you got the broken one the last customer returned obviously.



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Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.
 
On 19/08/2016 13:44, F Murtz wrote:
I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?
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Oz$? What has it to do with uk.legal?
 
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:05:43 +0100, Berty Blenkinsop
<blenkinsop@villas.com> wrote:

On 19/08/2016 13:44, F Murtz wrote:


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Oz$? What has it to do with uk.legal?
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Just to piss off whiney little cunts such as yourself.
 
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:44:58 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?
Click to expand...

Of course not fair. I don't have a solution for you, but the few times
I have had an issue like yours, Paypal has always refunded me without
demanding I return an item <shrug>.

ANZ, OTOH once demanded I spend nearly $20 on postage to return some
coffee beans worth maybe $35 in order to be issued a refund. Which is
what I did, as there was no way I was going to let the retailer get
away with an unauthorised transaction. I would have spent $100 on that
postage, if need be.
 
On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 03:35:16 +0000, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2016-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 19/08/16 10:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one.
My only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send
it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Why did you feel it necessary to cross-post this into 6 different
groups?



So that many people would see it.

so, trolling, or spam?
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It lives under a bridge.
 
On 19/08/16 10:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:
I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?
Click to expand...

Why did you feel it necessary to cross-post this into 6 different groups?



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Regards,
Noddy.
 
On 20/08/2016 10:58, Noddy wrote:
On 19/08/16 10:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it
back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Why did you feel it necessary to cross-post this into 6 different groups?
Click to expand...

In the vain hope someone with intelligence might read it.
 
On 20/08/2016 11:01 AM, Pelican wrote:
On 20/08/2016 10:58, Noddy wrote:
On 19/08/16 10:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it
back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Why did you feel it necessary to cross-post this into 6 different groups?

In the vain hope someone with intelligence might read it.
Click to expand...

That lets Noddy right out of the picture!

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Xeno

First they ignore you,
Then they ridicule you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi
 
On 20/08/16 04:05, Noddy wrote:
On 20/08/16 11:01 AM, Pelican wrote:

Why did you feel it necessary to cross-post this into 6 different
groups?

In the vain hope someone with intelligence might read it.

Let me know if he gets lucky, or is just being a troll.


Well he hasn't much hope - look at all those aus.* groups.
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The country that elected that raving welsh bitch as PM?





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All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
fully understood.
 
On 20/08/16 1:42 PM, Pelican wrote:

Let me know if he gets lucky, or is just being a troll.

Sure. My fees will be commensurate with the work you require done. Deal?
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Absolutely. Send them to me@gofuckyourself.com


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Regards,
Noddy.
 
Noddy wrote:
On 19/08/16 10:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it
back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Why did you feel it necessary to cross-post this into 6 different groups?



So that many people would see it.
Click to expand...
 
On 2016-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 19/08/16 10:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:


I bought a reversing mirror monitor (for A $18.63 inc postage)from"
Fruitbig 222" which was poorly packaged and arrived broken.
He admitted it was broken after I sent photos,Did not send a new one. My
only redress aparently is refund but to get refund I have to send it
back.
Australian postage is A $23 something.
My refund has been refused as I did not send it back for$23.00 to get
$18.00 aprox.
Eminently fair?

Why did you feel it necessary to cross-post this into 6 different groups?



So that many people would see it.
Click to expand...

so, trolling, or spam?

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