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[Eeyore]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:57:06 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <0i5193p5d5gpc66l2up37p8e9c7o1ff17d@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
If you're there to reduce the heat, why not simply use the boiling
water?

A lot of dishes require a maintained boil point... Like pasta, for
example.

You do pasta in a kettle? Have you some secret way of getting it to align
so it can be poured?

So things like lids allow continued boiling even after heat reduction.
No lid... no boil... Unless you bring the heat back up. Which is what
the lid id good for.

You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I don't
think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into them to
get the boiling water out?

In the US, a dedicated electric kettle is rare - you're much more likely
to see an electric skillet(frying pan). To boil water, we use a kettle on
the stove-top:
http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=289833

A quick Google showed no shortage of the type we have here.
http://www.amazon.com/Proctor-Silex-K2070-Automatic-Electric/dp/B00023XCWS

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Tam/WB2TT wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote


Thinks. In the UK a kettle is only used for boiling water. Usually for
making tea or instant coffee. Do you guys call some form of general
cooking utensil a kettle too?

Having bought multiple cooking utensils in the past few years, I don't
recall seeing one in a box that said "kettle".

You're not familiar with these ?

http://www.google.com/search?&q=electric+kettle

Graham

 

[Paul Burke]

Tam/WB2TT wrote:

Having bought multiple cooking utensils in the past few years, I don't
recall seeing one in a box that said "kettle". From what I can gather, that
is pretty much an archaic term, and only used in a context such as tea
kettle; however, the latter is just as often called a tea pot.

There is a crucial distinction between the kettle, in which the water is
boiled, and the teapot, in which the tea is brewed (infused). If you've
been putting the tea leaves (or even bags) in the kettle, it's no wonder
the Americans prefer coffee.

There are other kinds of kettle, with neither side- handle nor spout,
but that's a different kettle of fish.

Paul Burke

 

[Spurious Response]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:02:56 +0100, Paul Burke <paul@scazon.com> wrote:

There are other kinds of kettle, with neither side- handle nor spout,
but that's a different kettle of fish.

Out of the frying pan, and into the kettle...

 

[Spurious Response]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:35:50 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

I'd love to see your proof. A 'two quart' saucepan will have *vast* heat
losses. A decent electric kettle can cope with just one cupful of water if
that's all that's needed.

Except that you cannot place your veggies in there, or any other
cooking need.

Some people do more than drink tea. We use continuously boiling water
for many cooking needs, and those are the only needs I have, and my cup
of tea works just fine with water that only takes a few minutes to boil
over a trickle flame.

I know how to apply heat to a surface and waste very little.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <10u5931sjklu4cqmd1i5d443sq1k5ddc76@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

There is the charming British expression "Oh go boil your head,

ITYM 'Awa 'n' bile yer heed, Jimmy.

--
*Save the whale - I'll have it for my supper*

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <4eOdncgQOtRhnA7bnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Tam/WB2TT <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote:

If all else fails, read the instruction book. I didn't see anything in
the cookbook about pots/pans, but according to Webster's Dictionary a
kettle is a bowl shaped metal utensil. I take that to mean it has a
rounded bottom, like what one would use for making witches brew.
Probably not useful on an electric stove.

Go for a simple dictionary:-

Collins GEM English Dictionary
kettle n. container with a spout and handle used for boiling water. ˜a
fine kettle of fish an awkward situation.

By that kettle has also an older meaning in the UK. There's also a paint
kettle - an open pan with wire handle used by decorators.

--
*I want it all and I want it delivered

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <n3b493hm9c17ibs8mlhhg523va9juvc812@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:

I'd love to see your proof. A 'two quart' saucepan will have *vast*
heat losses. A decent electric kettle can cope with just one cupful of
water if that's all that's needed.

Except that you cannot place your veggies in there, or any other
cooking need.

Nor can you with a frying pan. Have you a fetish for only using one type
of cooking utensil?

Some people do more than drink tea. We use continuously boiling water
for many cooking needs, and those are the only needs I have, and my cup
of tea works just fine with water that only takes a few minutes to boil
over a trickle flame.

Continuously boiling water for cooking needs?

I know how to apply heat to a surface and waste very little.

If you are boiling water 'continuously while cooking' you know nothing
about conserving energy. Or cooking, come to that.
Of course you could just be a troll.

--
*I went to school to become a wit, only got halfway through.

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

 

[Paul Burke]

Spurious Response wrote:

Except that you cannot place your veggies in there, or any other
cooking need.

Hey, you never met my dad. He used to boil eggs in the electric kettle.
I think you can place your stuff in there, it's getting it out again
that's the problem. But if you've forgotten to let the Beaujolais settle
to room temperature, DON'T try putting it in the electric kettle for a
quick boost.

Some people do more than drink tea.

All those civil servants sitting around drinking endless cups of tea.
But if the cups are endless, how do they get the tea out?

We use continuously boiling water...those are the only needs I have

Some people are so easily satisfied.

 

[Spurious Response]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:38:57 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Usually for
making tea or instant coffee

3kW to make tea or coffee?

Bwuahahahahahahaha!

Talk about waste. Ol' Gore would be over for a party to join you, if
you let him have a news broadcast of how much electric gets wasted in UK
kitchens, he'll fly over (wasting fuel) and have tea with you (wasting
power).

 

[Spurious Response]

On 9 Jul 2007 09:20:16 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@free.net.nz> wrote:

The reason low tolerance plastic types have such a low tolerance is
because of their lack of thermal conduction. Apply heat to the surface,
and it stays there. This is a bad thing when said heat can make said
surface reach a melting temperature fairly fast.

bullshit.

You have never seen plastic come to a melting point on its surface, and
stay that way for minutes until someone or something touches it and sinks
the heat away?

Yeah, you did just shit a pile, bully boy.

 

[Spurious Response]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:41:33 -0500,
hal-usenet@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) wrote:

So you need pots and pans with heatsink fins on the bottom. ;-)

http://www.trailspace.com/gear/jetboil/group-cooking-system/


I found that while looking for this
http://www.msrcorp.com/cookware/heat_exchanger.asp
It goes around a pot to get better heat transfer.

Looks cool, as well as fully functional.

Double overpriced, however.

 

[Spurious Response]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:10:56 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

If it were spaghetti, so it could be poured out of the spout?

Here, a kettle can be anything from a tea kettle to a giant two foot
deep pot for LA Gumbo.

 

[Spurious Response]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:14:05 +0000 (UTC), gsm@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S.
Mendelson) wrote:

Tam/WB2TT wrote:
I am still trying to figure out what the previous poster meant by aligning
the pasta.

If pasta is not aligned properly in relation to the Earth's magnetic
field then it will not cook properly. That's why sometimes it comes
out perfect and other times it comes out mush.




Geoff.

You have to cook it under your scaled replica Cheops pyramid at the one
third height level, while wearing your pyramidal foil hat with Salvador
Dali on the widescreen in the living room.

Don't forget all of the Mayan culture wall hangings.

 

[Spurious Response]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:32:47 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article <0i5193p5d5gpc66l2up37p8e9c7o1ff17d@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
If you're there to reduce the heat, why not simply use the boiling
water?

A lot of dishes require a maintained boil point... Like pasta, for
example.

You do pasta in a kettle? Have you some secret way of getting it to align
so it can be poured?

So things like lids allow continued boiling even after heat reduction.
No lid... no boil... Unless you bring the heat back up. Which is what
the lid id good for.

You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I don't
think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into them to
get the boiling water out?


Why all the arguing? Just heat tha damn water in the microwave.

Describe the mechanism by which it heats.

Hint:

The word for today is hysteresis.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <obv5935hr3gdr47n2p6ja5kdgcihrq393f@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:38:57 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Usually for
making tea or instant coffee

3kW to make tea or coffee?

Bwuahahahahahahaha!

Talk about waste. Ol' Gore would be over for a party to join you, if
you let him have a news broadcast of how much electric gets wasted in UK
kitchens, he'll fly over (wasting fuel) and have tea with you (wasting
power).

Thanks for confirming you don't know the difference between energy and
power. It's pretty common with cretins.

--
*Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:47:47 -0700, Spurious Response
<SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:10:56 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

If it were spaghetti, so it could be poured out of the spout?

Here, a kettle can be anything from a tea kettle to a giant two foot
deep pot for LA Gumbo.

Kettle? We just cut a 55-gallon drum in half.

John

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Paul Burke wrote:

Spurious Response wrote:

Except that you cannot place your veggies in there, or any other
cooking need.


Hey, you never met my dad. He used to boil eggs in the electric kettle.
I think you can place your stuff in there, it's getting it out again
that's the problem. But if you've forgotten to let the Beaujolais settle
to room temperature, DON'T try putting it in the electric kettle for a
quick boost.

Some people do more than drink tea.

All those civil servants sitting around drinking endless cups of tea.
But if the cups are endless, how do they get the tea out?

With their endless red tape, of course!

We use continuously boiling water...those are the only needs I have

Some people are so easily satisfied.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Tam/WB2TT]

"Paul Burke" <paul@scazon.com> wrote in message
news:5fgpeuF3dc8ekU1@mid.individual.net...

Tam/WB2TT wrote:

Having bought multiple cooking utensils in the past few years, I don't
recall seeing one in a box that said "kettle". From what I can gather,
that is pretty much an archaic term, and only used in a context such as
tea kettle; however, the latter is just as often called a tea pot.

There is a crucial distinction between the kettle, in which the water is
boiled, and the teapot, in which the tea is brewed (infused). If you've
been putting the tea leaves (or even bags) in the kettle, it's no wonder
the Americans prefer coffee.

There are other kinds of kettle, with neither side- handle nor spout, but
that's a different kettle of fish.

Paul Burke

For what it's worth, the dictionary defines a cauldron as a large kettle. So
to me, a kettle looks something like a cauldron, but not as big. I don't
know anybody who owns an electric tea brewer, though I do own 3 electric
coffee pots. The UK folks might be ripe for a samovar.

Tam

 

[Spurious Response]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:50:39 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:47:47 -0700, Spurious Response
SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:10:56 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

If it were spaghetti, so it could be poured out of the spout?

Here, a kettle can be anything from a tea kettle to a giant two foot
deep pot for LA Gumbo.

Kettle? We just cut a 55-gallon drum in half.

John

So, how many PCBs do you think you have introduced into your body over
the years with all the various and sundry exposure events we Americans
have the opportunity to endure?

Amount needed to cause a malignancy mutation: 2 parts per Billion.