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On 2007-07-08, meow2222@care2.com <meow2222@care2.com> wrote:
On 6 Jul, 16:12, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:03:55 +0100, Paul Burke <p...@scazon.com
wrote:

Oy! It's the other way round here, you pay 22p/kWhr for the first N
units, then about 15p thereafter. It's supposed to cover fixed costs
like the meter (which was there years ago and must have payed for itself
many times over at that rate).

"P" is pence? Roughly 44 cents/kwh? Yikes!

Yes, but its not as bad as it sounds. Bills are made up of charge per
kWh and a fixed standing charge for the supply. The 44c/kWh rate only
occurs where people choose a no standing charge deal, where the first
so many units are hiked in price to add the standing charge. Its just
a marketing game.
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16.4c here (0.128 USD)

Bye.
Jasen
 
On 2007-07-08, Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:52:03 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

heat, however, most, if not all plastics with high temperature capacity
are much better conductors of heat than their intolerant relatives.

In other words, if it is a high temp tolerant plastic, it conducts heat
far better than any plastic you might be thinking of. Kinda goes with the
territory.

Now silicone, SOFT plastic types do insulate thermally. That is
different, and there are not a large number of them in that category. We
are talking about solid, construction capable type materials here.
The plastic that would be used on a vat of boiling water as a major
element of its containment would likely be a fair conductor of heat.
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polypropylene is commonly used, look it up.

The reason low tolerance plastic types have such a low tolerance is
because of their lack of thermal conduction. Apply heat to the surface,
and it stays there. This is a bad thing when said heat can make said
surface reach a melting temperature fairly fast.
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bullshit.

Bye.
Jasen
 
On 2007-07-08, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Read what I said again. Sure, most plastics are poor conductors of
heat, however, most, if not all plastics with high temperature capacity
are much better conductors of heat than their intolerant relatives.

Still a better insulator than the sort of metals kettles would otherwise
be made of, though, which was the point.
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actually polypropylene is a slightly worse heat conductor than most other
thermoplastics :) this guy is just spurious.


Bye.
Jasen
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4eff605993dave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <HfGdnSPBy-5_zgzbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Tam/WB2TT <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4eff1a99c9dave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <0i5193p5d5gpc66l2up37p8e9c7o1ff17d@4ax.com>, Spurious
Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
If you're there to reduce the heat, why not simply use the boiling
water?

A lot of dishes require a maintained boil point... Like pasta, for
example.

You do pasta in a kettle? Have you some secret way of getting it to
align so it can be poured?

This must be a cultural thing, but I have no idea what in hell you are
talking about.

Join the club. My stupid reply was in response to the stupid comment from
Spurious response.


So things like lids allow continued boiling even after heat
reduction. No lid... no boil... Unless you bring the heat back up.
Which is what the lid id good for.

You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I
don't think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into
them to get the boiling water out?

You use a spaghetti strainer. And yes, some things need an open kettle.

Thinks. In the UK a kettle is only used for boiling water. Usually for
making tea or instant coffee. Do you guys call some form of general
cooking utensil a kettle too?

Having bought multiple cooking utensils in the past few years, I don't
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recall seeing one in a box that said "kettle". From what I can gather, that
is pretty much an archaic term, and only used in a context such as tea
kettle; however, the latter is just as often called a tea pot. If I look
around in a store, they will have things called sauce pans (nothing to do
with a pan), stock pots, and Dutch ovens (nothing to do with an oven). I may
be wrong, but to me a kettle is a pot with a wire handle like a bucket. No
reason you could not cook spaghetti in it, if you found one.

I am still trying to figure out what the previous poster meant by aligning
the pasta.

Tam

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In article <C76dnfQrgrFe1g_bnZ2dnUVZ_ryknZ2d@comcast.com>,
Tam/WB2TT <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote:
Thinks. In the UK a kettle is only used for boiling water. Usually for
making tea or instant coffee. Do you guys call some form of general
cooking utensil a kettle too?

Having bought multiple cooking utensils in the past few years, I don't
recall seeing one in a box that said "kettle". From what I can gather,
that is pretty much an archaic term, and only used in a context such as
tea kettle; however, the latter is just as often called a tea pot. If I
look around in a store, they will have things called sauce pans
(nothing to do with a pan), stock pots, and Dutch ovens (nothing to do
with an oven). I may be wrong, but to me a kettle is a pot with a wire
handle like a bucket. No reason you could not cook spaghetti in it, if
you found one.
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I think the UK definition means a container with a spout and handle. But
most would consider it the safest way to boil water and fill a cup etc
from it - saucepans are less than ideal for this.

I am still trying to figure out what the previous poster meant by
aligning the pasta.
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If it were spaghetti, so it could be poured out of the spout?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article <0i5193p5d5gpc66l2up37p8e9c7o1ff17d@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
If you're there to reduce the heat, why not simply use the boiling
water?

A lot of dishes require a maintained boil point... Like pasta, for
example.

You do pasta in a kettle? Have you some secret way of getting it to align
so it can be poured?

So things like lids allow continued boiling even after heat reduction.
No lid... no boil... Unless you bring the heat back up. Which is what
the lid id good for.

You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I don't
think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into them to
get the boiling water out?
Click to expand...

Why all the arguing? Just heat tha damn water in the microwave.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Tam/WB2TT wrote:
I am still trying to figure out what the previous poster meant by aligning
the pasta.

If pasta is not aligned properly in relation to the Earth's magnetic
field then it will not cook properly. That's why sometimes it comes
out perfect and other times it comes out mush.
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True audiophile pasta (that`s OFP) is time aligned and by the science of
chakra, the molecules are arranged to that it not only cooks to
perfection everytime but never ever sticks to the pan.

It is of course somewhat more expensive than the common or garden lo fi
pasta.


Ron(UK)
 
Tam/WB2TT wrote:
I am still trying to figure out what the previous poster meant by aligning
the pasta.
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If pasta is not aligned properly in relation to the Earth's magnetic
field then it will not cook properly. That's why sometimes it comes
out perfect and other times it comes out mush.


:)

Geoff.


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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:32:47 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article <0i5193p5d5gpc66l2up37p8e9c7o1ff17d@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
If you're there to reduce the heat, why not simply use the boiling
water?

A lot of dishes require a maintained boil point... Like pasta, for
example.

You do pasta in a kettle? Have you some secret way of getting it to align
so it can be poured?

So things like lids allow continued boiling even after heat reduction.
No lid... no boil... Unless you bring the heat back up. Which is what
the lid id good for.

You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I don't
think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into them to
get the boiling water out?


Why all the arguing? Just heat tha damn water in the microwave.
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The brits drink huge amounts of tea because their coffee is so bad.

John
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
The brits drink huge amounts of tea because their coffee is so bad.

Not since the 1960's. Of course I think there was good coffee long before
then, when was Andalucci's (on Shaftsbury Avenue) founded?

Of course since London has as many Starbuck's as any other large city,
you may be right. :)

Geoff.
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Interestingly, Coffee was commonly drunk in England long before tea
became fashionable.

Ron(UK)
 
John Larkin wrote:
The brits drink huge amounts of tea because their coffee is so bad.
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Not since the 1960's. Of course I think there was good coffee long before
then, when was Andalucci's (on Shaftsbury Avenue) founded?

Of course since London has as many Starbuck's as any other large city,
you may be right. :)

Geoff.


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On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:57:06 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <0i5193p5d5gpc66l2up37p8e9c7o1ff17d@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
If you're there to reduce the heat, why not simply use the boiling
water?

A lot of dishes require a maintained boil point... Like pasta, for
example.

You do pasta in a kettle? Have you some secret way of getting it to align
so it can be poured?

So things like lids allow continued boiling even after heat reduction.
No lid... no boil... Unless you bring the heat back up. Which is what
the lid id good for.

You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I don't
think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into them to
get the boiling water out?
Click to expand...
In the US, a dedicated electric kettle is rare - you're much more likely
to see an electric skillet(frying pan). To boil water, we use a kettle on
the stove-top:
http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=289833

But for pasta and soup and stuff, we use an ordinary cookpot on the
stove.

Hope This Helps!
Rich
 
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:14:05 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Tam/WB2TT wrote:
I am still trying to figure out what the previous poster meant by aligning
the pasta.

If pasta is not aligned properly in relation to the Earth's magnetic
field then it will not cook properly. That's why sometimes it comes
out perfect and other times it comes out mush.
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You don't know how to properly check spaghetti. Every few minutes, pick
a strand out of the pot and throw it at the wall. When one sticks, the
spaghetti is done. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
In article <pan.2007.07.09.21.45.59.361152@example.net>,
Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:
You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I
don't think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into
them to get the boiling water out?

In the US, a dedicated electric kettle is rare - you're much more likely
to see an electric skillet(frying pan). To boil water, we use a kettle on
the stove-top:
http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=289833
Click to expand...
Looks just like many an electric UK kettle then - although jug types are
also popular.

But for pasta and soup and stuff, we use an ordinary cookpot on the
stove.
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As I'd guessed. Dunno what Mr S Response was on about.

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Tam/WB2TT wrote:
Having bought multiple cooking utensils in the past few years, I don't
recall seeing one in a box that said "kettle". From what I can gather, that
is pretty much an archaic term, and only used in a context such as tea
kettle; however, the latter is just as often called a tea pot. If I look
around in a store, they will have things called sauce pans (nothing to do
with a pan), stock pots, and Dutch ovens (nothing to do with an oven).
Click to expand...

A "Dutch Oven" is a cast iron pot with a heavy cover made you use in
an open campfire. You can use it as an oven to bake bread over a bed of
hot coals. It can also pe used to cook soup, stew or Chili while away
from a conventional kitchen.


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:32:47 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Why all the arguing? Just heat tha damn water in the microwave.

The brits drink huge amounts of tea because their coffee is so bad.

John
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There are a few of them who should get a mouthful of water, insert
the tea bag, then microwave their heads. Instant tea, and one less
troll.

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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Laughing-at-my-ass wrote:
http:item
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That you still have your worthless junk that no one will buy.

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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:29:12 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:32:47 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Why all the arguing? Just heat tha damn water in the microwave.

The brits drink huge amounts of tea because their coffee is so bad.

John


There are a few of them who should get a mouthful of water, insert
the tea bag, then microwave their heads. Instant tea, and one less
troll.
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There is the charming British expression "Oh go boil your head,
Bertie."

John
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4effc0a9bbdave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <C76dnfQrgrFe1g_bnZ2dnUVZ_ryknZ2d@comcast.com>,
Tam/WB2TT <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote:
Thinks. In the UK a kettle is only used for boiling water. Usually for
making tea or instant coffee. Do you guys call some form of general
cooking utensil a kettle too?

Having bought multiple cooking utensils in the past few years, I don't
recall seeing one in a box that said "kettle". From what I can gather,
that is pretty much an archaic term, and only used in a context such as
tea kettle; however, the latter is just as often called a tea pot. If I
look around in a store, they will have things called sauce pans
(nothing to do with a pan), stock pots, and Dutch ovens (nothing to do
with an oven). I may be wrong, but to me a kettle is a pot with a wire
handle like a bucket. No reason you could not cook spaghetti in it, if
you found one.

I think the UK definition means a container with a spout and handle. But
most would consider it the safest way to boil water and fill a cup etc
from it - saucepans are less than ideal for this.

I am still trying to figure out what the previous poster meant by
aligning the pasta.

If it were spaghetti, so it could be poured out of the spout?

--
*Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm *

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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If all else fails, read the instruction book. I didn't see anything in the
cookbook about pots/pans, but according to Webster's Dictionary a kettle is
a bowl shaped metal utensil. I take that to mean it has a rounded bottom,
like what one would use for making witches brew. Probably not useful on an
electric stove.

Tam
 
John Larkin wrote:
There is the charming British expression "Oh go boil your head,
Bertie."
Click to expand...


See? They were aHEAD of their time! ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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