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[Mxsmanic]

John Doe writes:

All Microsoft had to do was sell Windows and allow pirates to steal
it.

"Allow pirates to steal it"? So Microsoft is essentially damned if it
does and damned if it doesn't.

Now that Microsoft Windows is an entrenched monopoly, Microsoft
is putting the screws down.

How?

Unless Microsoft is making all the money.

It's not. The vast majority of money in the PC world is made by
companies other than Microsoft.

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[Mxsmanic]

John Doe writes:

Assuming David Maynard's claim is true ...

You don't know for sure?

... it is no different than allowing pirates to
steal Windows and later putting the squeeze on us (think Windows
Product Activation WPA).

The "squeeze" is put on pirates, who had never acquired Windows
legally to begin with. Why is this bad?

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[Gary H]

JAD wrote:

"Gary H" <g.h@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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David Maynard wrote:

Gary H wrote:


Mxsmanic wrote:


Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories.
In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not
the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's
arm.




Ya know, all this really isn't about Bill Gates or Microsoft Per Se.
It's about the greed factor and the power factor and the control factor.
The desire for absolute power and to corrupt absolutely . The sort of
thing that rears its ugly head virtually every single day of our lives.
Like Enron, Hollinger international and on and on.

With Microsoft, like many others it *is* about greed and power.

With the oil industry, it *is* about greed and power.
For example, I live in the north-eastern part of this north American
continent. In the summertime, the price of gas goes sky-high because of
the demand and heating oil drops and in the wintertime the price of
heating fuel goes sky-high because of demand and gas drops. The
immediate response or belief drilled into the general public is that
there is a shortage of oil. There is NOT.
There is plenty of oil. I know, because where I live, we are net
exporters of oil.


Where are your geo. credentials? I live in California, does that make me an
expert on California oil deposits?

Unless you live in California, I could care less.Your oil means nothing to
me(or at least it shouldn't). 93% of my gas comes from California crude. So
why is it that gas prices here, are even effected by 'OPEC? Its a CON, and
as far as 'plenty' maybe for you - yourself, but as far as the world is
concerned, we better find an alternative soon, if in fact we don't already
have one. And pulling out the last drop of 'ballast' from the earth would
be a good thing?

There we go, the old "F**k you Jack, I'm all right" mentality.
I already said that where I live we're net exporters of oil yet
we still pay horrendously high prices. Taking into account
exchange rates, we pay much more than you do. Take a look at
the price of crude coming out of the gulf states. It's the
goddam stock market and Wall St in general that's keeping prices
sky high. GREED.

Super. But unless you can demonstrate your area's exports are enough to
power the planet that little factiod means nothing about the state of the
world's oil supply.

Overly simplistic bullshit. It's all of the sources worldwide that
supplies the planet and there is plenty at the moment. It will eventually
run out, so I guess the oil guys figure they'll get their money now, while
the gettin' is good..


Yes it is, yet you seem not to get it. OIL is the biggest CON of all.
Evetually? It has been 'running out' for 10 years or more, We reached
maximum capasity long ago, and demand has coninued to grow.


The problem is that with the increased demand, nobody is building extra
refining capacity. Especially those who *control* the industry. You
know, the Exxons, Shell, and so on.


They haven't built new refineries in a coon's age because they can't get
permits as environmentalists have essentially blocked every
technologically feasible source of new energy production.

Again, overly simplistic bullshit.


It's gotten to the point where these bastards are driving the crap out
of a barrel of oil because (get this) they're expecting a friggin' snow
storm in the north-east of the continent.


Wouldn't be so bad if you folks up there would ever let them build a
bloody pipeline too but, nooooooo. So when it's socked in every other
means of transport is cut off and you're stuck with whatever local
supplies have been pre stocked.

Again, over simplistic. It's not that building a pipeline is not
permitted, it that it's not permitted to build it the *way* you guys want
to do it. We *do* have environmental protection rules up this way, and
where we have them, we apply them.
Your shipping argument is totally off the wall and incorrect as well.
Never saw weather yet that could keep an oil tanker from it's appointed
rounds. Not even in the North Atlantic.


That costs money, pal, and creates shortages.

As with everything else, I suppose when you you find yourselves behind the
eight ball with energy costs and availability, you'll just walk in and
take it like you feel it's your right. What is it you folks call it down
there? Oh yes, "American interests".


Since you've got all that excess oil, why don't you lobby the legislature
for a refinery permit? hmm?

We have plenty of refining capacity to look after our own needs up this
way. Other countries are responsible for their own refining capacity
construction programs. Unless the oil companies there, wish to keep the
cost of fuel artificially high. And, what it's priced at on the good old
New York Stock Exchange is what you guys, and the rest of the friggin'
world, pay for it.

 

[John Doe]

Mxsmanic <mxsmanic gmail.com> wrote:

John Doe writes:

Assuming David Maynard's claim is true ...

You don't know for sure?

Know what for sure?

... it is no different than allowing pirates to steal Windows and
later putting the squeeze on us (think Windows Product Activation
WPA).

The "squeeze" is put on pirates, who had never acquired Windows
legally to begin with.

You are naďve if you really think so.

The squeeze is on typical American families who are not technically
inclined and who would like to install Windows XP on their kids
computer as well. Anybody who is technically inclined (pirates
included) and most everybody outside of the United States can get
Windows XP for free and install it on all their computers. The
squeeze is put on ordinary home users here in the United States.

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[John Doe]

Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote:

John Doe writes:

Do you always speak loudly as possible? That makes about as much
sense.

No, it does not.

Yes, it does.

I can easily and immediately assess the level of
ambient noise and adjust the loudness of my voice in consequence.
I cannot immediately assess the vocabulary of the person with whom
I'm communicating,

Can you remember?

and so I cannot know whether it is larger or smaller
than my own.

Because you're so forgetful.

Mental capacity has something to do with your ability/inability
to adapt.

Yes, but intelligence is not prescience.

You can't even remember your own two hour old argument.

Your short term memory problem would benefit by quoting more than
one level in your replies.

You suggested Gary H has a limited vocabulary.

Where?

In just another of your forgotten writings.

 

[John Doe]

One incredibly clueless troll.

Mxsmanic <mxsmanic gmail.com> wrote:

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John Doe writes:

All Microsoft had to do was sell Windows and allow pirates to steal
it.

"Allow pirates to steal it"? So Microsoft is essentially damned if it
does and damned if it doesn't.

Now that Microsoft Windows is an entrenched monopoly, Microsoft
is putting the screws down.

How?

Unless Microsoft is making all the money.

It's not. The vast majority of money in the PC world is made by
companies other than Microsoft.

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[Gary H]

JAD wrote:

"Gary H" <g.h@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:2Rznf.1483$PQ3.344823@news20.bellglobal.com...

David Maynard wrote:

Gary H wrote:


Mxsmanic wrote:


Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories.
In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not
the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's
arm.




Ya know, all this really isn't about Bill Gates or Microsoft Per Se.
It's about the greed factor and the power factor and the control factor.
The desire for absolute power and to corrupt absolutely . The sort of
thing that rears its ugly head virtually every single day of our lives.
Like Enron, Hollinger international and on and on.

With Microsoft, like many others it *is* about greed and power.

With the oil industry, it *is* about greed and power.
For example, I live in the north-eastern part of this north American
continent. In the summertime, the price of gas goes sky-high because of
the demand and heating oil drops and in the wintertime the price of
heating fuel goes sky-high because of demand and gas drops. The
immediate response or belief drilled into the general public is that
there is a shortage of oil. There is NOT.
There is plenty of oil. I know, because where I live, we are net
exporters of oil.


Where are your geo. credentials? I live in California, does that make me an
expert on California oil deposits?

Don't need 'em. It's called *known* reserves. You just have to
follow the words of the guys who bored the holes. They actually
print that stuff for public consumption you know? Gawd, "geo.
credentials" what a maroon.

Unless you live in California, I could care less.Your oil means nothing to
me(or at least it shouldn't). 93% of my gas comes from California crude. So
why is it that gas prices here, are even effected by 'OPEC? Its a CON, and
as far as 'plenty' maybe for you - yourself, but as far as the world is
concerned, we better find an alternative soon, if in fact we don't already
have one. And pulling out the last drop of 'ballast' from the earth would
be a good thing?

Of all the people on this continent, you guys are the biggest
fossil fuel guzzlers of the bunch. With your honkin' big SUVs
and your mile long motor homes and other assorted uh-huh toys.
What are we up to now, four car families or what? Why don't you
sell some of those suckers and save a quart or two? And don't
be screaming *too* much about self sufficiency, if it wasn't for
the Canadian hydro supplies you folks in California would be
groping around in the dark wondering why the goddam light
switches don't work. As an aside, you've also screwed up most
of your potable fresh water and where are you are your eyeballs
swinging now. Why north of course. You know, those dumb
Canuks got lots we can have and besides, why should they be
allowed to own all that water anyway.
Guy, you folks are born super consumers, who give very little
thought to consequences of your actions until one resource or
another is just about all gone. So please, don't preach to me,
you have got *absolutely nothing* to teach me.

Super. But unless you can demonstrate your area's exports are enough to
power the planet that little factiod means nothing about the state of the
world's oil supply.

Overly simplistic bullshit. It's all of the sources worldwide that
supplies the planet and there is plenty at the moment. It will eventually
run out, so I guess the oil guys figure they'll get their money now, while
the gettin' is good..


Yes it is, yet you seem not to get it. OIL is the biggest CON of all.
Evetually? It has been 'running out' for 10 years or more, We reached
maximum capasity long ago, and demand has coninued to grow.


The problem is that with the increased demand, nobody is building extra
refining capacity. Especially those who *control* the industry. You
know, the Exxons, Shell, and so on.


They haven't built new refineries in a coon's age because they can't get
permits as environmentalists have essentially blocked every
technologically feasible source of new energy production.

Again, overly simplistic bullshit.


It's gotten to the point where these bastards are driving the crap out
of a barrel of oil because (get this) they're expecting a friggin' snow
storm in the north-east of the continent.


Wouldn't be so bad if you folks up there would ever let them build a
bloody pipeline too but, nooooooo. So when it's socked in every other
means of transport is cut off and you're stuck with whatever local
supplies have been pre stocked.

Again, over simplistic. It's not that building a pipeline is not
permitted, it that it's not permitted to build it the *way* you guys want
to do it. We *do* have environmental protection rules up this way, and
where we have them, we apply them.
Your shipping argument is totally off the wall and incorrect as well.
Never saw weather yet that could keep an oil tanker from it's appointed
rounds. Not even in the North Atlantic.


That costs money, pal, and creates shortages.

As with everything else, I suppose when you you find yourselves behind the
eight ball with energy costs and availability, you'll just walk in and
take it like you feel it's your right. What is it you folks call it down
there? Oh yes, "American interests".


Since you've got all that excess oil, why don't you lobby the legislature
for a refinery permit? hmm?

We have plenty of refining capacity to look after our own needs up this
way. Other countries are responsible for their own refining capacity
construction programs. Unless the oil companies there, wish to keep the
cost of fuel artificially high. And, what it's priced at on the good old
New York Stock Exchange is what you guys, and the rest of the friggin'
world, pay for it.

 

[Mxsmanic]

John Doe writes:

Can you remember?

Within limits, yes.

In just another of your forgotten writings.

If it is forgotten, how are you able to refer to it?

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[Mxsmanic]

John Doe writes:

Know what for sure?

Whether or not what David says is true. You said "assuming," which
implies that you didn't know whether it was truth or not and that you
did no research.

The squeeze is on typical American families who are not technically
inclined and who would like to install Windows XP on their kids
computer as well.

It's illegal for them to install the same copy of Windows on more than
one machine.

And typical American families don't do this, anyway. They buy
machines with Windows preinstalled, so no legal issues arise.

Anybody who is technically inclined (pirates
included) and most everybody outside of the United States can get
Windows XP for free and install it on all their computers.

Perhaps, but only dishonest people do this.

The squeeze is put on ordinary home users here in the United States.

How? They have Windows preinstalled on their machines, and so they
have no reason to pirate it. Additionally, most of them are honest,
and so they wouldn't necessarily pirate it even if they had a reason
to do so.

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[David Maynard]

John Doe wrote:

David Maynard <nospam private.net> wrote:



snip of John Doe's inability to have a single thought of his own

 

[David Maynard]

John Doe wrote:

David Maynard <nospam private.net> wrote:


Peter wrote:


In article <Xns972A1585DB375follydom 207.115.17.102>,
jdoe usenet.love.invalid says...


An operating system should not have applications as it's
components if you want to promote competition among software
developers. And if you pretend to not know the difference between
an operating system and an application, you are just a liar.
There is a gray area but it's not that difficult to generally
separate an operating system from applications.



But wasn't a major part of the court process centred around
determining whether IE was or was not a necessary part of the
O/S? Weren't Microsoft claiming that it was and, if removed,
then the O/S would not work as 'advertised'? Isn't that one of
the major reasons why the case dragged on for so long? One set
of experts trying to prove that IE was NOT a necessary component.

Didn't some group or groups actually manage to remove IE
completely and still have Windows work? Wasn't that a major
factor in disproving M$'s claims? In other words, it wasn't just
a simple case of showing that and O/S should not have
applications as it's components, it was far more complicated than
that at the time.

It was some time ago so may 'facts' may be somewhat of the mark.




Take the example of removing I.E.. If you want to conclude it
isn't 'necessary' to the O.S. then you simply argue


David Maynard simply argues. The rest of us simply jog our memory to
a time when Internet Explorer was an add-on component to Windows.

David Maynard is old enough and technically inclined enough to know
better.

To imagine that an Internet browser is a necessary part of a
personal computer operating system is to suggest that a personal
computer cannot run the myriad of extremely valuable programs it in
fact ran before Microsoft bound Internet explorer to Windows.

John Doe is apparently unable to comprehend that the world changes and what
were acceptable products in the past no longer are, just as the previously
popular cars with hand crank starters no longer are.

On the other hand, would you buy an O.S. with no browser?


Corporations or any entity that wants its subordinate(s) to use the
computer but not use an Internet browser would buy an operating
system with no browser.

Now show me any significant number who actually practice that novel theory.

A really good example IMO would be a parent who wants their kid to
have access to the ever increasing universe of information on the
Internet but wants a browser specifically programmed/tailored to
help keep the kid from stumbling on all of the garbage.

Which is still an O.S. with a browser.

The rest of us might buy an operating system preinstalled with a
browser of choice.

It has always been possible to get any browser at all preinstalled, or add one.

snipped the rest of David Maynard's Microsoft Speak

Which just proves that John Doe can't think of anything at all without knee
jerk labeling it Microsoft 'something' because I never mentioned Microsoft.

Not to mention the disingenuous snip and hack job distorting the context.

 

[David Maynard]

John Doe wrote:

David Maynard <nospam private.net> wrote:


John Doe wrote:


Mxsmanic <mxsmanic gmail.com> wrote:



John Doe writes:



The real reason it remains the dominant operating system, as has
been explained many times before, is because of network effects
and a positive feedback loop.

If that is the real reason, then it cannot be a result of
anything that Microsoft has done.


All Microsoft had to do was sell Windows and allow pirates to
steal it.

ROTFLOL


Just a troll.

Which, even if true, doesn't alter the fact that your post was one of the
most hilarious things I've seen in a long time,

Message-ID: <11mm0ukht2piv15 corp.supernews.com

David Maynard wrote:
"The Netscape matter is interesting because they began by giving
their browser away..."

David Maynard conveniently forgets his own writing less than 24
hours old.

Didn't forget a thing, pal.

Assuming David Maynard's claim is true (is anything he says fact and
not just agreement with his personal opinion?) about Netscape giving
Navigator away is true,

You can try obfuscating it all you want but it is a matter of record that
Netscape was free.

it is no different than allowing pirates to
steal Windows and later putting the squeeze on us (think Windows
Product Activation WPA).

Microsoft never did such a thing. Netscape did.

How's that for a 'difference', eh?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Doe wrote:

I would be very impressed if (in reality) you never had a question
appropriate for the homebuilt PC group.

I have repaired computers for 23 years. I teach free classes on
computer repair and how to build your own. I have worked with embedded
controllers, both custom design and PC-104 format. Some of my computer
work is in orbit aboard the ISS. Now that I am a 100% non service
connected disabled veteran I have started a program to collect and
repair computers which are given to disabled veterans who can't afford
to purchase on on their disability pension. I repair some motherboards
and other computer circuit boards, monitors and printers. I owned a used
computer business for a few years before I went back to electronics
manufacturing of communications equipment. Do you have any idea how much
bandwidth is available to the ISS, or what equipment they use? I worked
on the KU band equipment used for data and private video link to the
ISS.

--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[David Maynard]

Gary H wrote:

David Maynard wrote:

Gary H wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:

Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories.
In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not
the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's
arm.





Ya know, all this really isn't about Bill Gates or Microsoft Per Se.
It's about the greed factor and the power factor and the control
factor. The desire for absolute power and to corrupt absolutely .
The sort of thing that rears its ugly head virtually every single day
of our lives. Like Enron, Hollinger international and on and on.

With Microsoft, like many others it *is* about greed and power.

With the oil industry, it *is* about greed and power.
For example, I live in the north-eastern part of this north American
continent. In the summertime, the price of gas goes sky-high because
of the demand and heating oil drops and in the wintertime the price
of heating fuel goes sky-high because of demand and gas drops. The
immediate response or belief drilled into the general public is that
there is a shortage of oil. There is NOT.
There is plenty of oil. I know, because where I live, we are net
exporters of oil.



Super. But unless you can demonstrate your area's exports are enough
to power the planet that little factiod means nothing about the state
of the world's oil supply.


Overly simplistic bullshit.

Your claim wasn't just overly simplistic it was fundamentally flawed logic.

It's all of the sources worldwide that
supplies the planet

Which is why your logic had no sense to it.

and there is plenty at the moment.

You've not provided any evidence of it.

It will
eventually run out, so I guess the oil guys figure they'll get their
money now, while the gettin' is good..

But sane, rational, 'good guy' you would wait till there isn't any?

You don't notice a teensy flaw in your business plan?

The problem is that with the increased demand, nobody is building
extra refining capacity. Especially those who *control* the
industry. You know, the Exxons, Shell, and so on.



They haven't built new refineries in a coon's age because they can't
get permits as environmentalists have essentially blocked every
technologically feasible source of new energy production.


Again, overly simplistic bullshit.

Just the facts, mam.

It's gotten to the point where these bastards are driving the crap
out of a barrel of oil because (get this) they're expecting a
friggin' snow storm in the north-east of the continent.



Wouldn't be so bad if you folks up there would ever let them build a
bloody pipeline too but, nooooooo. So when it's socked in every other
means of transport is cut off and you're stuck with whatever local
supplies have been pre stocked.


Again, over simplistic. It's not that building a pipeline is not
permitted, it that it's not permitted to build it the *way* you guys
want to do it.

Metal tube in the ground. You got some other kind?

We *do* have environmental protection rules up this way,
and where we have them, we apply them.

Good for you. So stop whining about the costs they impose.

Your shipping argument is totally off the wall and incorrect as well.
Never saw weather yet that could keep an oil tanker from it's appointed
rounds. Not even in the North Atlantic.

I hope your house in on the docks then.

That costs money, pal, and creates shortages.

As with everything else, I suppose when you you find yourselves behind
the eight ball with energy costs and availability, you'll just walk in
and take it like you feel it's your right. What is it you folks call it
down there? Oh yes, "American interests".

I have absolutely no idea what the heck any of that is supposed to mean or
by what twisted logic it came from.

Since you've got all that excess oil, why don't you lobby the
legislature for a refinery permit? hmm?


We have plenty of refining capacity to look after our own needs up this
way.

Glad to hear it, so I don't suppose you have a problem then.

Other countries are responsible for their own refining capacity
construction programs. Unless the oil companies there, wish to keep the
cost of fuel artificially high. And, what it's priced at on the good
old New York Stock Exchange is what you guys, and the rest of the
friggin' world, pay for it.

Supply and demand.

 

[David Maynard]

JAD wrote:

"Gary H" <g.h@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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David Maynard wrote:

Gary H wrote:


Mxsmanic wrote:


Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories.
In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not
the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's
arm.




Ya know, all this really isn't about Bill Gates or Microsoft Per Se.
It's about the greed factor and the power factor and the control factor.
The desire for absolute power and to corrupt absolutely . The sort of
thing that rears its ugly head virtually every single day of our lives.
Like Enron, Hollinger international and on and on.

With Microsoft, like many others it *is* about greed and power.

With the oil industry, it *is* about greed and power.
For example, I live in the north-eastern part of this north American
continent. In the summertime, the price of gas goes sky-high because of
the demand and heating oil drops and in the wintertime the price of
heating fuel goes sky-high because of demand and gas drops. The
immediate response or belief drilled into the general public is that
there is a shortage of oil. There is NOT.
There is plenty of oil. I know, because where I live, we are net
exporters of oil.


Where are your geo. credentials? I live in California, does that make me an
expert on California oil deposits?

Unless you live in California, I could care less.Your oil means nothing to
me(or at least it shouldn't). 93% of my gas comes from California crude. So
why is it that gas prices here, are even effected by 'OPEC?

Because it's a world market and if oil is going for X everywhere else why
would a 'local' sell it there for Y when they could sell it to someone else
for the X world price?

Its a CON, and
as far as 'plenty' maybe for you - yourself, but as far as the world is
concerned, we better find an alternative soon, if in fact we don't already
have one. And pulling out the last drop of 'ballast' from the earth would
be a good thing?

Uh, what do you think the earth might 'sink' into? Space?

Super. But unless you can demonstrate your area's exports are enough to
power the planet that little factiod means nothing about the state of the
world's oil supply.

Overly simplistic bullshit. It's all of the sources worldwide that
supplies the planet and there is plenty at the moment. It will eventually
run out, so I guess the oil guys figure they'll get their money now, while
the gettin' is good..


Yes it is, yet you seem not to get it. OIL is the biggest CON of all.
Evetually? It has been 'running out' for 10 years or more, We reached
maximum capasity long ago, and demand has coninued to grow.

Proven Oil Reserves (billions of barrels)

World OPEC
2003 1213 819
2002 1031 819
2001 1028 814
2000 1016 802
1999 1034 800
1998 1019 797
1997 1019 789
1996 1007 777
1995 1000 770
1994 999 772

 

[John Doe]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell earthlink.net> wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I would be very impressed if (in reality) you never had a
question appropriate for the homebuilt PC group.


I have repaired computers for 23 years. I teach free classes on
computer repair and how to build your own. I have worked with
embedded controllers, both custom design and PC-104 format. Some
of my computer work is in orbit aboard the ISS. Now that I am a
100% non service connected disabled veteran I have started a
program to collect and repair computers which are given to
disabled veterans who can't afford to purchase on on their
disability pension. I repair some motherboards and other computer
circuit boards, monitors and printers. I owned a used computer
business for a few years before I went back to electronics
manufacturing of communications equipment.

Maybe you should write an autobiography, elsewhere.

Do you have any idea how much bandwidth is available to the ISS,

The ISS has a 20 MHZ bandwidth KU-Band data link to and from the
ground.

See if you can focus all that bandwidth on the current topic.

or what equipment they use? I worked on the KU band equipment used
for data and private video link to the ISS.

That suggests you are all knowing about picking parts for,
assembling, booting, and configuring a personal computer (and maybe
every other subject you discuss), but only in your head.

--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

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[John Doe]

David Maynard <nospam private.net> wrote:

John Doe wrote:

David Maynard <nospam private.net> wrote:


Peter wrote:


In article <Xns972A1585DB375follydom 207.115.17.102>,
jdoe usenet.love.invalid says...


An operating system should not have applications as it's
components if you want to promote competition among software
developers. And if you pretend to not know the difference
between an operating system and an application, you are just a
liar. There is a gray area but it's not that difficult to
generally separate an operating system from applications.



But wasn't a major part of the court process centred around
determining whether IE was or was not a necessary part of the
O/S? Weren't Microsoft claiming that it was and, if removed,
then the O/S would not work as 'advertised'? Isn't that one of
the major reasons why the case dragged on for so long? One set
of experts trying to prove that IE was NOT a necessary
component.

Didn't some group or groups actually manage to remove IE
completely and still have Windows work? Wasn't that a major
factor in disproving M$'s claims? In other words, it wasn't
just a simple case of showing that and O/S should not have
applications as it's components, it was far more complicated
than that at the time.

It was some time ago so may 'facts' may be somewhat of the mark.




Take the example of removing I.E.. If you want to conclude it
isn't 'necessary' to the O.S. then you simply argue


David Maynard simply argues. The rest of us simply jog our memory
to a time when Internet Explorer was an add-on component to
Windows.

David Maynard is old enough and technically inclined enough to
know better.

To imagine that an Internet browser is a necessary part of a
personal computer operating system is to suggest that a personal
computer cannot run the myriad of extremely valuable programs it
in fact ran before Microsoft bound Internet explorer to Windows.

John Doe is apparently unable to comprehend that the world changes
and what were acceptable products in the past no longer are, just
as the previously popular cars with hand crank starters no longer
are.

The main reason Microsoft integrated Internet Explorer into Windows
was to crush the Navigator/Java threat.

On the other hand, would you buy an O.S. with no browser?


Corporations or any entity that wants its subordinate(s) to use
the computer but not use an Internet browser would buy an
operating system with no browser.

Now show me any significant number who actually practice that
novel theory.

Step out of your closet and take off your blinders.

A really good example IMO would be a parent who wants their kid
to have access to the ever increasing universe of information on
the Internet but wants a browser specifically programmed/tailored
to help keep the kid from stumbling on all of the garbage.

Which is still an O.S. with a browser.

Which could better be included by OEMs or installed by those of us
who don't need everything preinstalled.

The rest of us might buy an operating system preinstalled with a
browser of choice.

It has always been possible to get any browser at all
preinstalled, or add one.

I guess you've never experienced the problems an integrated Internet
Explorer can cause in Windows. Some of us enjoy having only the
programs we need.

Long gone are the days I tried to keep up with the ever increasing
garbage Microsoft dumped onto my hard drive with each new version of
Windows. It's like living on a landfill.

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[John Doe]

David Maynard <nospam@private.net> wrote:

John Doe wrote:

David Maynard <nospam private.net> wrote:


John Doe wrote:


Mxsmanic <mxsmanic gmail.com> wrote:



John Doe writes:



The real reason it remains the dominant operating system, as
has been explained many times before, is because of network
effects and a positive feedback loop.

If that is the real reason, then it cannot be a result of
anything that Microsoft has done.


All Microsoft had to do was sell Windows and allow pirates to
steal it.

ROTFLOL


Just a troll.

Which, even if true, doesn't alter the fact that your post was one
of the most hilarious things I've seen in a long time,

Or maybe it's the hard drugs you are using.

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David Maynard wrote:
"The Netscape matter is interesting because they began by giving
their browser away..."

David Maynard conveniently forgets his own writing less than 24
hours old.

Didn't forget a thing, pal.

Obviously you did.

Assuming David Maynard's claim is true (is anything he says fact
and not just agreement with his personal opinion?) about
Netscape giving Navigator away is true, it is no different than
allowing pirates to steal Windows and later putting the squeeze
on us (think Windows Product Activation WPA).


Microsoft never did such a thing. Netscape did.

How's that for a 'difference', eh?

I think you have it backwards. Netscape began giving navigator away
after Microsoft began pushing navigator out of the market. That loss
was approximately 17% of Netscape's income.

 

[John Doe]

Mxsmanic <mxsmanic gmail.com> wrote:

John Doe writes:

Can you remember?

Within limits, yes.

What can you remember?

In just another of your forgotten writings.

If it is forgotten, how are you able to refer to it?

Refer to what?

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[Mxsmanic]

John Doe writes:

Many computers are handed down.

A handed-down computer still contains the operating system originally
installed upon it, so this is not an excuse to pirate the software.

You are out of touch.

Every ordinary desktop computer I see these days has something
preinstalled on it, typically Microsoft Windows.

They do and they feel justified.

Crooks always feel justified. But not everyone is a crook.

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