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Mike Berger
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Have you tried unplugging it for a few hours?
jordan23@totalise.co.uk wrote:
jordan23@totalise.co.uk wrote:
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poi
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Porky wrote:
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Daniel J. Stern
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, default wrote:
all motor vehicle lighting devices conform to US Federal Motor Vehicle
Safety Standard 108 (or, in Canada, Canada Motor Vehicle Safety
Standard 108 or 108.1). Other jurisdictions make vague references to
(usually outdated and/or inapplicable) SAE standards. Still other
jurisdictions contain subjective requirements, e.g. "Every vehicle
shall be equipped with two brake lights showing a red light to the rear
when the brakes are applied, which shall be clearly visible for a
distance of such-and-so many feet".
Despite
commonly-used packaging language, there is no such thing as "SAE
approval".
(There's also no such thing as "DOT approval", but that's a different
topic
for a different day). FMVSS108 and CMVSS108 do not require any
particular
fiducial markings on vehicle rear lamps. Such markings are optional and
are
frequently applied by reputable manufacturers of HDV lighting
equipment, which implies you're not looking closely enough for the
markings and/or you don't know what you're looking for. There are a
great many different LED vehicle brake, marker, tail, parking,
reversing and directional indicator lamps on the
market. Of these, a large proportion are fully compliant with
applicable
regulations and therefore legal in all states and provinces for use in
their
intended applications. (The remainder are 3rd-world knockoff
crapola-this
has been a problem since long before LEDs, and it'll carry on being a
problem long after LEDs are obsolete).
LED exterior lights are appearing more slowly on passenger cars, simply
due
to economic factors. Development and tooling for a good, durable and
legally-compliant lighting device design is extremely expensive and
quite time consuming. HDVs overwhelmingly use lighting devices made to
a dozen or so industry-standard formats (4" round, 7" round, 3" x 5"
rectangular and 2" x 7" oblong brake/tail/turn lamps, for instance).
Passenger cars, on the other hand, overwhelmingly use model-specific
lamps.
compliance of a vehicle is (surprise!) lights that don't produce
intensity somewhere between the minimum and maximum prescribed values,
through at least the prescribed vertical and horizontal angles, with at
least the
prescribed minimum ratio between bright and dim intensity modes, with
at
least the prescribed minimum illuminated area and at least the
prescribed minimum resistance to the prescribed types of deterioration.
That's a long way of saying homemade brake/tail lights and "LED bulb"
retrofits generally don't work well enough to provide adequate safety
performance.
Virtually every owner of a '93-'00 Chrysler product who pays any
attention at all to headlamp performance pines for the "performance" of
the $9 sealed beams on his '60s-'80s cars. And as a concept,
sealed-beam construction in standardized form factors makes a great
deal of sense for automotive headlamps. The _implementation_ we were
stuck with for so many years was poor, but there's nothing about
sealed-beam construction, per se, that locks one into poor headlamp
performance. There are plenty of bad replaceable-bulb lights, too.
There are even bad "Xenon" HID lights. Good lights are better than bad
lights; there's too much room in the US headlamp standard for various
kinds of bad lights.
compared
to bad lights. There are some very good LED lights...and a lot of bad
ones.
And there are some very good bulb-type lights.
lamps hit the road every day with full legal compliance.
generally. Sometimes silvered steel.
DOT-certified halogen sealed beams. Westinghouse, Philips and Sylvania
beat them to it by a fairly long margin. GE kept insisting and
insisting that halogen technology was "unnecessary" on automobiles, and
that its use would create more problems than it would solve. This was
probably due more to GE's having recently-at-the-time sunk a great deal
of money into retooling their tungsten sealed beam production
facilities. Ironically, GE was first to market with a halogen sealed
beam in North America. In the early 1970s, GE Canada produced a
"Quartzline" 5-3/4" halogen sealed beam high beam, called Q4001, and
marketed it in Canada. It complied with European photometric
requirements and therefore was legal in Canada, but was "too intense"
for the US' unrealistically low high beam intensity limits and so was
not sold in the US.
long time been as much about politics, economics and non-tariff trade
barriers as about safety.
designed and built properly.
DS
Varies by state/province. Some jurisdictions explicitly require that
all motor vehicle lighting devices conform to US Federal Motor Vehicle
Safety Standard 108 (or, in Canada, Canada Motor Vehicle Safety
Standard 108 or 108.1). Other jurisdictions make vague references to
(usually outdated and/or inapplicable) SAE standards. Still other
jurisdictions contain subjective requirements, e.g. "Every vehicle
shall be equipped with two brake lights showing a red light to the rear
when the brakes are applied, which shall be clearly visible for a
distance of such-and-so many feet".
Well, a few things here: First off, SAE is not a regulatory body.
Despite
commonly-used packaging language, there is no such thing as "SAE
approval".
(There's also no such thing as "DOT approval", but that's a different
topic
for a different day). FMVSS108 and CMVSS108 do not require any
particular
fiducial markings on vehicle rear lamps. Such markings are optional and
are
frequently applied by reputable manufacturers of HDV lighting
equipment, which implies you're not looking closely enough for the
markings and/or you don't know what you're looking for. There are a
great many different LED vehicle brake, marker, tail, parking,
reversing and directional indicator lamps on the
market. Of these, a large proportion are fully compliant with
applicable
regulations and therefore legal in all states and provinces for use in
their
intended applications. (The remainder are 3rd-world knockoff
crapola-this
has been a problem since long before LEDs, and it'll carry on being a
problem long after LEDs are obsolete).
LED exterior lights are appearing more slowly on passenger cars, simply
due
to economic factors. Development and tooling for a good, durable and
legally-compliant lighting device design is extremely expensive and
quite time consuming. HDVs overwhelmingly use lighting devices made to
a dozen or so industry-standard formats (4" round, 7" round, 3" x 5"
rectangular and 2" x 7" oblong brake/tail/turn lamps, for instance).
Passenger cars, on the other hand, overwhelmingly use model-specific
lamps.
How come? What makes you think LEDs are illegal? What spoils the safety
compliance of a vehicle is (surprise!) lights that don't produce
intensity somewhere between the minimum and maximum prescribed values,
through at least the prescribed vertical and horizontal angles, with at
least the
prescribed minimum ratio between bright and dim intensity modes, with
at
least the prescribed minimum illuminated area and at least the
prescribed minimum resistance to the prescribed types of deterioration.
That's a long way of saying homemade brake/tail lights and "LED bulb"
retrofits generally don't work well enough to provide adequate safety
performance.
It's really not that simple. Some of them are, some of them aren't.
Virtually every owner of a '93-'00 Chrysler product who pays any
attention at all to headlamp performance pines for the "performance" of
the $9 sealed beams on his '60s-'80s cars. And as a concept,
sealed-beam construction in standardized form factors makes a great
deal of sense for automotive headlamps. The _implementation_ we were
stuck with for so many years was poor, but there's nothing about
sealed-beam construction, per se, that locks one into poor headlamp
performance. There are plenty of bad replaceable-bulb lights, too.
There are even bad "Xenon" HID lights. Good lights are better than bad
lights; there's too much room in the US headlamp standard for various
kinds of bad lights.
Good lights can make a big difference in visibility and conspicuity
compared
to bad lights. There are some very good LED lights...and a lot of bad
ones.
And there are some very good bulb-type lights.
This doesn't make any sense. See above; more and more LED-based vehicle
lamps hit the road every day with full legal compliance.
You already can.
Er...there were no "iron" headlamp reflectors. Silvered brass,
generally. Sometimes silvered steel.
This is all more or less correct, though GE was _last_ to market with
DOT-certified halogen sealed beams. Westinghouse, Philips and Sylvania
beat them to it by a fairly long margin. GE kept insisting and
insisting that halogen technology was "unnecessary" on automobiles, and
that its use would create more problems than it would solve. This was
probably due more to GE's having recently-at-the-time sunk a great deal
of money into retooling their tungsten sealed beam production
facilities. Ironically, GE was first to market with a halogen sealed
beam in North America. In the early 1970s, GE Canada produced a
"Quartzline" 5-3/4" halogen sealed beam high beam, called Q4001, and
marketed it in Canada. It complied with European photometric
requirements and therefore was legal in Canada, but was "too intense"
for the US' unrealistically low high beam intensity limits and so was
not sold in the US.
GE is very much still in the market. And auto lighting has for a very
long time been as much about politics, economics and non-tariff trade
barriers as about safety.
Very bad. Just as bad as other kinds of bad lights, if they're not
designed and built properly.
DS
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CJT
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tempus fugit wrote:
failure (I read just this week about a minister in Waco who was
electrocuted during a baptism when he grabbed a microphone that was
"hot."). Be careful.
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That capacitor might be leaking or (worse) shorted. It can be a lethal
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Dave Plowman (News)
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In article <n3s9m117gfkanec9pikuri6hsn3v2ttodc@4ax.com>,
Tom MacIntyre <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Tom MacIntyre <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote:
That's what Behringer does. Make it look good...;-)
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"Jumpster Jiver" <me@no.spam.today> wrote in message news:r0r9f.5334$cg6.5187@trndny04...
We took the covers off all the outlets and there's no ground wire
in any of them, not even in the bathrooms. The only one we
located is in the box for the 220V oven.
The complex is old but not _that_ old (built in 1962), and the type
of construction is such that there's no access to wall interiors. I
think that's why they've been able to get waivers for current code.
The owners would literally have to tear the buildings down to redo
the electrical wiring. We can't even get a second phone line
installed for the same reason.
Thanks all for the replies. Yes, the outlets are in fact ungrounded.
We took the covers off all the outlets and there's no ground wire
in any of them, not even in the bathrooms. The only one we
located is in the box for the 220V oven.
The complex is old but not _that_ old (built in 1962), and the type
of construction is such that there's no access to wall interiors. I
think that's why they've been able to get waivers for current code.
The owners would literally have to tear the buildings down to redo
the electrical wiring. We can't even get a second phone line
installed for the same reason.
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CJT
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CJT wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/31/national/main995829.shtml
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Jeff
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This is begining to sound like an arguement based soley on which company you
hate more, IBM or Microsoft. You each seem to be stating facts and then
coloring them to suit your own arguements. I personally dont care who
screwed who in the origins of the OS world, I only wish that there was some
form of real competition for MS and their huge market share to cause some
real inovation, choice and fair pricing.
"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:26nbm159lankulsp18gidrvs0rg1vlmb9m@4ax.com...
hate more, IBM or Microsoft. You each seem to be stating facts and then
coloring them to suit your own arguements. I personally dont care who
screwed who in the origins of the OS world, I only wish that there was some
form of real competition for MS and their huge market share to cause some
real inovation, choice and fair pricing.
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tempus fugit
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I tested the cap and it showed about a half meg of resistance. maybe
something is shorted somehwere else. Oh, and I checked the voltage between
the record player chassis and the scope chassis - 120VAC (I thought that's
what it felt like). Odd though, I would think with 120v on the chassis that
it would pop a fuse at the breaker box.
Thanks
"CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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something is shorted somehwere else. Oh, and I checked the voltage between
the record player chassis and the scope chassis - 120VAC (I thought that's
what it felt like). Odd though, I would think with 120v on the chassis that
it would pop a fuse at the breaker box.
Thanks
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Mxsmanic
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Jeff writes:
Microsoft, and help the cause.
Remember, Microsoft is really only dominant for operating systems and
its Office suite of products. In other domains, someone else is
dominant. Office and operating systems won't keep Microsoft is
business forever.
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Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
Well, write some applications for operating systems other than
Microsoft, and help the cause.
Remember, Microsoft is really only dominant for operating systems and
its Office suite of products. In other domains, someone else is
dominant. Office and operating systems won't keep Microsoft is
business forever.
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Zantafio
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And USA is a modern and leading country ??????????
Although you may think Europeans are retarded, In France everybody has
electricity, water in the flat, a bathroom or at
least a shower and (even) lavatories that's not a scoop .... and earth
ground in the wall sockets ...
Most of us have at least one car some drive motorcycles and women are slim
smart cuties who wear fashion.
We also drink wine, eat cheese and we enjoy tasting foie gras without
mustard or pickles.
BTW do you know that mobile phones do exist ?
Perhaps this could be an alternative unless the provider is located too far
....
Although you may think Europeans are retarded, In France everybody has
electricity, water in the flat, a bathroom or at
least a shower and (even) lavatories that's not a scoop .... and earth
ground in the wall sockets ...
Most of us have at least one car some drive motorcycles and women are slim
smart cuties who wear fashion.
We also drink wine, eat cheese and we enjoy tasting foie gras without
mustard or pickles.
BTW do you know that mobile phones do exist ?
Perhaps this could be an alternative unless the provider is located too far
....
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clifto
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David Maynard wrote:
market.
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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.
Microsoft Word existed and was sold long before Windows 1.0 was on the
market.
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If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.
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clifto
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Aidan Grey wrote:
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If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.
You mean like Selsun Blue?
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BillW50 wrote:
Imagine life without an ATM, or online access to banking? Without OS/2,
those things would only now be coming of age. Better yet, imagine an
ATM running Win95? they are crashing all over the place now that banks
are upgrading to M$. That never happened before, and it will only get
worse. The kiosks for printing digital pics in K-Mart, etc are littered
with blue screens, and even some sit stupidly with the start menu
desktop
Its pathetic, but that is what American wants, so that is
what America gets.
is ten years old, soon to be obsolete, yes, but go and ask M$ for
support on Win2000, and then ask yourself why you get upset when IBM
turns off OS/2.
invented computers....... M$ BOUGHT the rights to those portions of the
code, or took them with them when they left IBM, just as they have
BOUGHT everything else that makes up their products. Someone name one
decent piece of software that M$ CREATED from scratch. How about Bob?
Michael Jackson owns almost all the Beatles music, but you don't go
around saying he wrote them all, do you?
For those who were not even alive at the time, a lot happened between
IBM and billy bob that explains all these things.
The war is over, but M$ didn't win with superior technology. The fact
that there are more Fords on the American roads, than BMWs, is not a
statement that Ford is a superior product. Its a commentary on cheap,
and public relations, which is okay, so don't get torqued about it.
People want Fords, so they get Fords, but that doesn't make them
technically superior to a BMW or other high end, quality car.
People wanted M$ windows, so they got it. Its okay, there are no hard
feelings, but the number of sales does not equate the quality of the
product in any area of business. Ask Walmart about that.
www.ecomstation.com
Those who couldn't figure out how to use OS/2 because is was "too hard"
simply turned to an OS that does their thinking for them, and they got
what they deserved. That's fine. Nothing to get one's panties in a
bunch over. Most things worth using or having require the owner to be
above average in intelligence anyway.
Its really okay. Windows sucks. It always has. It always will. Not a
big deal, but those who do not know history ought to study it, and
learn it, rather than just rewriting it to fit their agenda.
Imagine life without an ATM, or online access to banking? Without OS/2,
those things would only now be coming of age. Better yet, imagine an
ATM running Win95? they are crashing all over the place now that banks
are upgrading to M$. That never happened before, and it will only get
worse. The kiosks for printing digital pics in K-Mart, etc are littered
with blue screens, and even some sit stupidly with the start menu
desktop
Its pathetic, but that is what American wants, so that iswhat America gets.
Hmmmm. IBM still has not fully dropped support for OS/2. After all, it
is ten years old, soon to be obsolete, yes, but go and ask M$ for
support on Win2000, and then ask yourself why you get upset when IBM
turns off OS/2.
Again, the lack of knowledge by the newbie generation that thinks M$
invented computers....... M$ BOUGHT the rights to those portions of the
code, or took them with them when they left IBM, just as they have
BOUGHT everything else that makes up their products. Someone name one
decent piece of software that M$ CREATED from scratch. How about Bob?
Michael Jackson owns almost all the Beatles music, but you don't go
around saying he wrote them all, do you?
For those who were not even alive at the time, a lot happened between
IBM and billy bob that explains all these things.
The war is over, but M$ didn't win with superior technology. The fact
that there are more Fords on the American roads, than BMWs, is not a
statement that Ford is a superior product. Its a commentary on cheap,
and public relations, which is okay, so don't get torqued about it.
People want Fords, so they get Fords, but that doesn't make them
technically superior to a BMW or other high end, quality car.
People wanted M$ windows, so they got it. Its okay, there are no hard
feelings, but the number of sales does not equate the quality of the
product in any area of business. Ask Walmart about that.
www.ecomstation.com
Those who couldn't figure out how to use OS/2 because is was "too hard"
simply turned to an OS that does their thinking for them, and they got
what they deserved. That's fine. Nothing to get one's panties in a
bunch over. Most things worth using or having require the owner to be
above average in intelligence anyway.
Its really okay. Windows sucks. It always has. It always will. Not a
big deal, but those who do not know history ought to study it, and
learn it, rather than just rewriting it to fit their agenda.
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Do Little2
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"Zantafio" <Zantafio@hottemail.com> wrote in message
news:43667304$0$1732$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
The USA was that already in 1944. Remember, that was the
time when many of the brave French people waved the white flag
to Hitler, until the USA, Canada and England fought for you and
gave you back your own freedom.... any more questions?
news:43667304$0$1732$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
The USA was that already in 1944. Remember, that was the
time when many of the brave French people waved the white flag
to Hitler, until the USA, Canada and England fought for you and
gave you back your own freedom.... any more questions?
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Rick Yerger
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"Do Little2" <listed@space.com> wrote in message news:suv9f.1198$XR4.3595@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
for France America would still be a British colony.
Not sure what politics has to do with this, but if it weren't
for France America would still be a British colony.
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Franc Zabkar
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:34:33 GMT, "Rick Yerger" <nospam@earthlink.net>
put finger to keyboard and composed:
between A & E and N & E. This means that the PC's metal frame will
float to half mains potential. It's not dangerous, but you may feel a
spark or tingle whenever you touch the metalwork.
-- Franc Zabkar
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
put finger to keyboard and composed:
Within the PC's power supply there will be two noise suppression caps
between A & E and N & E. This means that the PC's metal frame will
float to half mains potential. It's not dangerous, but you may feel a
spark or tingle whenever you touch the metalwork.
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miketurner201
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geo73 Wrote:
repair the fault please. When you say re soldering do you mean I have
to clean off the old solder and then solder it again, is this because
the connection has broken? and is IC 37001 clearly marked on the
board.
Thankyou for your help with this.
Rgds
Mike
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miketurner201
Sorry I couldnt find the solution, what exactly do I have to do to
repair the fault please. When you say re soldering do you mean I have
to clean off the old solder and then solder it again, is this because
the connection has broken? and is IC 37001 clearly marked on the
board.
Thankyou for your help with this.
Rgds
Mike
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Rick Yerger
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"Zantafio" <Zantafio@hottemail.com> wrote in message news:43667304$0$1732$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
the fun in this apartment complex. That it hasn't burned to
the ground yet is nothing short of a miracle.
E.g. there's one 20A circuit to service the entire living room
AND kitchen. Want some toast? Better turn off the TV.
They have a dimmer switch in the bathroom that controls
both the lights and an exhaust fan. I guess for people who
want sexy mood lighting while taking a dump. But you
better not turn down the lights too much or else you'll
burn out the fan motor, and eventually start a fire.
The building is literally held together with duct tape and
string.
out of here in a few months.
You have no idea.. Lack of grounding is just the start of
the fun in this apartment complex. That it hasn't burned to
the ground yet is nothing short of a miracle.
E.g. there's one 20A circuit to service the entire living room
AND kitchen. Want some toast? Better turn off the TV.
They have a dimmer switch in the bathroom that controls
both the lights and an exhaust fan. I guess for people who
want sexy mood lighting while taking a dump. But you
better not turn down the lights too much or else you'll
burn out the fan motor, and eventually start a fire.
The building is literally held together with duct tape and
string.
We're just grinning and bearing it, until we can get the hell
out of here in a few months.
C
CJT
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tempus fugit wrote:
of the line, right?
It should be infinite (assuming you tested it out of the circuit).
When in doubt, replace it (or just snip it out and don't replace it).
Google "death cap" if you'd like some further opinions, typically from
the world of guitar amps.
maybe
count on it).
(I thought that's
You really need to be careful with this device. I can't stress that
enough. Death is not to be trifled with.
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We're talking about a capacitor between the chassis and one side
of the line, right?
It should be infinite (assuming you tested it out of the circuit).
When in doubt, replace it (or just snip it out and don't replace it).
Google "death cap" if you'd like some further opinions, typically from
the world of guitar amps.
maybe
Reversing the plug in the wall socket should change that (but don't
count on it).
(I thought that's
Not until your hair catches fire.
You really need to be careful with this device. I can't stress that
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