Today's young people are weaklings

tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote in
news:231add80-5264-48d0-a528-744c43a41831@googlegroups.com:

and it's patently obvious his quote is untrue. The claim that
nothing has a simple explanation is brainless. Does anyone really
believe that all correct explanations must be complex?

Simple answer: It's a complex issue. ;-)

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:48:31 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/07/19 01:52, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:43:57 -0500, mike.lawler2@yah00.com wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

My youngest engineer, recently promoted from intern, saw me struggling
to get my Tek 11802 off a shelf above my bench. He walked in, nudged
me aside, and lifted it straight up.

The weight is specified as 108 lbs. Yikes.

(It had the dreaded E5622 powerup error. Dead battery-backed Dallas
Smart Socket sram thing.)

Whenever he sees me carrying something heavy, he rushes over to schlep
it for me. Good kid.

Every home should have one.

Hope you don't become responsible for his knackering his
back. That's one of the things that squicks me.

He works out, probably lifts a lot more than that. Several of my guys
work out too, except one dances flamenco. We hear weird sounds in the
conference room now and then as she types and taps in her office above
our heads.

I think the kids are OK.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

On Monday, 29 July 2019 10:23:43 UTC+1, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

tabbypurr wrote in
news:231add80-5264-48d0-a528-744c43a41831@googlegroups.com:

and it's patently obvious his quote is untrue. The claim that
nothing has a simple explanation is brainless. Does anyone really
believe that all correct explanations must be complex?



Simple answer: It's a complex issue. ;-)

it isn't. of course.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 29/07/19 15:02, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:48:31 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/07/19 01:52, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:43:57 -0500, mike.lawler2@yah00.com wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

My youngest engineer, recently promoted from intern, saw me struggling
to get my Tek 11802 off a shelf above my bench. He walked in, nudged
me aside, and lifted it straight up.

The weight is specified as 108 lbs. Yikes.

(It had the dreaded E5622 powerup error. Dead battery-backed Dallas
Smart Socket sram thing.)

Whenever he sees me carrying something heavy, he rushes over to schlep
it for me. Good kid.

Every home should have one.

Hope you don't become responsible for his knackering his
back. That's one of the things that squicks me.

He works out, probably lifts a lot more than that. Several of my guys
work out too, except one dances flamenco. We hear weird sounds in the
conference room now and then as she types and taps in her office above
our heads.

I used to hear a whoosh - crump sound in cubicle land;
a co-worker was teaching himself to unicycle.
Health and safety? Wozzat?


> I think the kids are OK.

The kids are, as always, great. The ossified older
generation with rose-tinted specs is the problem.
There are quite a few of those in this newsgroup.

Having said that, Victor Meldrew is a hero of mine

 

[Phil Allison]

Bill Sloman wrote:

Tabbypurr does seem to have been suckered by a number of simple,
but wrong, ideas.

Gullible twits do tend to feel better-informed than they are.

** Sounds like just about any member of The Greens you might bump into.

Or "Martians" as I like to refer to them.


BTW:

I found a pic of E. James Prendergast and family plus one of his old business cards from his AT&T days. I will bring them along to our coffee morning.

I see he recently retired as the Executive Director of the IEEE.


.... Phil

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 1:27:37 AM UTC+10, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2019 10:23:43 UTC+1, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in
news:231add80-5264-48d0-a528-744c43a41831@googlegroups.com:

and it's patently obvious his quote is untrue. The claim that
nothing has a simple explanation is brainless. Does anyone really
believe that all correct explanations must be complex?

Simple answer: It's a complex issue. ;-)

it isn't. of course.

If it were, NT wouldn't be able to understand it, and would ignore it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

When I was young we used to punch each other in the chest as hard as possible. Some punk wants a piece of me like "Tell you what, I hit you once and if you can get up you win". One time, no fight. "DO NOT fuck with that dude".. I have been in very few fights. Reasons include my moves. I could put Arnold Schwartzegger on his ass, once, until he figures out how I do it. Just realize when that happens there is a window of time when you are totally vulnerable and all I have to do is drop my knee with my body weight on your neck and you are dead.

Friend of mine has this motorcycle. It was in his garage which had swinging doors sand for the winter his car was in front, you can barely get in or out, his bike is not coming out. The car in the way, well we didn't need that. We got cars, motorcycles not so much. So we picked up the back of the car and moved it and he went riding. Came back, I got on it. I don't ride but I know how. He had a V twin Honda, 350. Separate carbs of course and had the linkge where I could crank one but not the other. One cylinder is not working.

I ran that down to a bad coil and of course had him get a set of points because those things do not go open, they short out. So I got the thing fixed, started it and showed him both cylinders working, I didn't charge him for three reasons. He was a friend, he always shared with me and he was just a crazy like me.

He gets back from his ride around the block or whatever and he is white as as a sheet. Shaking. Sits down for a few minutes and regains his composure and says "I am selling the, I will kill myself on it".

I dunno, if I already did this sorry but it is a true story.

Jack and I did some contractor work, house remodeling. One job we did the upstairs and that meant a new bathroom up there, all new wiring and walls, insulation, the whole nine yards. A couple time Jack or I carried two sheets or drywall that are tapped together but decided later to just do it together. So two at a time it went up to the second floor.

Years later the guy calls back and wants us to do the downstairs. I guess we can do that. Jack's job he makes the deal and the kids gut the place. Actually doing that they lost a piece for a fireplace insert that cost us $800.. But that is not the point. Later we got the drywall for the downstairs and get the boys to carry it in.

They were stripping the tape off the sides and bring one single sheet at a time. These young strapping young Men are sitting here and this guy twice their age and this guy twice their age grabs two of them still together, takes them out the truck, up the porch steps and puts them with the rest.

Labor saving devices. Are they really such a good idea ?

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 30/07/19 19:05, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:42:16 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/07/19 15:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:48:31 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/07/19 01:52, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:43:57 -0500, mike.lawler2@yah00.com wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

My youngest engineer, recently promoted from intern, saw me struggling
to get my Tek 11802 off a shelf above my bench. He walked in, nudged
me aside, and lifted it straight up.

The weight is specified as 108 lbs. Yikes.

(It had the dreaded E5622 powerup error. Dead battery-backed Dallas
Smart Socket sram thing.)

Whenever he sees me carrying something heavy, he rushes over to schlep
it for me. Good kid.

Every home should have one.

Hope you don't become responsible for his knackering his
back. That's one of the things that squicks me.

He works out, probably lifts a lot more than that. Several of my guys
work out too, except one dances flamenco. We hear weird sounds in the
conference room now and then as she types and taps in her office above
our heads.

I used to hear a whoosh - crump sound in cubicle land;
a co-worker was teaching himself to unicycle.
Health and safety? Wozzat?


I think the kids are OK.

The kids are, as always, great. The ossified older
generation with rose-tinted specs is the problem.

The kids are great, except that they don't know anything and mostly
haven't learned to think. It's our job to fix that.

Ignorance is curable; stupidity and laziness aren't.

Over here the education system has shifted during my lifetime
towards thinking rather than rote memorisation. It is, as you
would expect, difficult to determine the success of that, but
I'm inclined to think it has been beneficial.

Notably the rabid brexiteers (especially Michael Gove) are
very disparaging about not learning such "important" facts
as the names of all the English monarchs. But then al
electorate that can think critically is an impediment to
their getting their own way.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:42:16 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/07/19 15:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:48:31 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/07/19 01:52, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:43:57 -0500, mike.lawler2@yah00.com wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

My youngest engineer, recently promoted from intern, saw me struggling
to get my Tek 11802 off a shelf above my bench. He walked in, nudged
me aside, and lifted it straight up.

The weight is specified as 108 lbs. Yikes.

(It had the dreaded E5622 powerup error. Dead battery-backed Dallas
Smart Socket sram thing.)

Whenever he sees me carrying something heavy, he rushes over to schlep
it for me. Good kid.

Every home should have one.

Hope you don't become responsible for his knackering his
back. That's one of the things that squicks me.

He works out, probably lifts a lot more than that. Several of my guys
work out too, except one dances flamenco. We hear weird sounds in the
conference room now and then as she types and taps in her office above
our heads.

I used to hear a whoosh - crump sound in cubicle land;
a co-worker was teaching himself to unicycle.
Health and safety? Wozzat?


I think the kids are OK.

The kids are, as always, great. The ossified older
generation with rose-tinted specs is the problem.

The kids are great, except that they don't know anything and mostly
haven't learned to think. It's our job to fix that.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

On Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:21:17 UTC+1, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 30/07/19 19:05, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:42:16 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 29/07/19 15:02, John Larkin wrote:

I think the kids are OK.

The kids are, as always, great. The ossified older
generation with rose-tinted specs is the problem.

Some kids are good, some not. Same with every age group.

The kids are great, except that they don't know anything and mostly
haven't learned to think. It's our job to fix that.

In our generation(s) we had nothing to do unless we found an interest. Either you found something or withered of boredom, year after year. Now kids are kept busy with phones, computers etc, so that motivation is a lot less there. Result: a lot less practical interested motivated people.

It's hard to believe looking back that large numbers of kids stood around for ages waiting to see a train, that really was the level of utter boredom we had that drove some to do that.

Also the level of poverty today is nothing like it was. They just assume they will always have what we struggled for. That's another big motivator gone.

The young are taught to be dependant now, basically by various interests that want their money or to control them politically. We weren't so much. We can tackle that only partially.

There are other factors that are our society's fault, but it's hard to see how any one of us can solve them.
1. the risk-terrified culture prohibits all sorts of useful skill learning. Mechanics, electrics, cars, & more are all regarded with great fear now.
2. the risk fearing culture prohibits any learning from strangers, which has bad results as well as good.
3. Practicality is right out of fashion.


> Ignorance is curable; stupidity and laziness aren't.

Lazy is sometimes curable with the right motivation. As for stupid, who was not a dumb youngster once? Yet we learn.

Modern parents to try shield their kids from life's motivations, which does not strike me as good for them.

Over here the education system has shifted during my lifetime
towards thinking rather than rote memorisation. It is, as you
would expect, difficult to determine the success of that, but
I'm inclined to think it has been beneficial.

Notably the rabid brexiteers (especially Michael Gove) are
very disparaging about not learning such "important" facts
as the names of all the English monarchs.

I have never had any use for such a list ever. It was completely obvious at the time that that & many other school topics & entire subjects were 100% a waste of time. I do wonder what good useful things I could have learnt if basic sense had intervened in the education I received.

But then al
electorate that can think critically is an impediment to
their getting their own way.

NT

 

[Phil Allison]

Tom Gardner naĂŻve troll wrote:

JL


The kids are great, except that they don't know anything and mostly
haven't learned to think. It's our job to fix that.

Ignorance is curable;

** Only with great difficulty - like cancer.

stupidity and laziness aren't.

** Laziness is curable, with enough motivation applied.

Over here the education system has shifted during my lifetime
towards thinking rather than rote memorisation.

** Never worked on you - pal.

It is, as you
would expect, difficult to determine the success of that, but
I'm inclined to think it has been beneficial.

** The worst fools think they think.



..... Phil

 

[Rick C]

On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 11:44:01 PM UTC-4, mike....@yah00.com wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

Hmmm... If you can push a car at those speeds, why bother burning gas?! Save the planet, push your car... lol

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 1:20:46 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:

Unfortunately two other Canadian teens seem to be murdering for some
sick reason, this story is not ending well at all.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/teen-manhunt-mcleod-schmegelsky-1.5224306

The boys were found dead by riverbank. Looks like suicide, unless some local took the law into his own hands, possible but unlikely.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/americas/canada-manhunt-suspects-bodies-found/index.html

John