Today's young people are weaklings

Bill Sloman wrote:


Cursitor Doom does like to keep his arguments simple.

** Too simple.

Australian TV science guru " Karl Kruszelnicki" once said on air that:

" ... everything in science has a simple,easy to understand explanation - but unfortunately that explanation is always wrong ".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Kruszelnicki


the UK does seem to have a working democracy.

The UK's democracy is seriously flawed by two things:

1. First past the post election of candidates.

2. Non compulsory voting.


Both the above conspire to ensure that wrong outcomes occur regularly.

FYI: Australia has the best voting system in the world, but still is still subject to media pressure to publish only sensational news and bullshit instead of real information.




..... Phil
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49125045

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%932018_Russian_protests

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/09/europe/russia-protests-arrests-intl/index.html

None of those are credible. You want to argue with people who actually go there and do business there ?
 
That much is obvious, more than 3 years after that Referendum
they're still hitched up to the EUSSR.

This surprises you ? People who push the EU do so because they believe it will bring them more money and power. ALL acts of governments are to that end save very few.

What you need to do is elect some real conservatives. You might even get your guns back if you play it right. Hey, even Ghandi was for personal firearm ownership, remember the quote about that from him that Facebook removed ?
 
>" ... everything in science has a simple,easy to understand explanation - but >unfortunately that explanation is always wrong ".

I think Mencken said something similar about problems and solutions.

>2. Non compulsory voting.

I am all for that under one condition. There is a "None Of The Above" and if that wins then the position goes unfilled until the next normal election.

They will never allow that because in some cases half the government would be gone. Of course that is a good thing, but they don't see it that way.

>but still is still subject to media pressure to publish only sensational news >and bullshit instead of real information

Just as bad as the US. I can't teach how to develop good sources because it is not a matter of a few URLs or lines of text. I can say this much, for example you can go to APnews and get the news from where "they" get it and see it before the local outlets or networks twist it.

Media, they scorn. I know people in the business, your local TV news is about 90% scripted. Their little ad libs are allowed to give the viewer a sense of something or other. They are under very strict control over what they can say and do so it is really not quite ad lib. So how come they make so many errors in the closed captioning ? What's more, on televised live sporting events which obviously cannot be scripted there is nary an error.

Question more.
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:31:34 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

I've spoken with people from the eastern bloc, and we've all seen Putin
rig the polls & shut down political opposition.

Only if their names end in "sky" which tells us they're Globalists whose
only interest in Russia is raping it of its natural resources. I'd say
keeping those parasites out of power is a very, very good thing.

but I do know Britain doesn't have a democracy any more. That much is
obvious, more than 3 years after that Referendum they're still hitched
up to the EUSSR.

It's had a real wobble but looks like we are getting it.

If you're not out by the end of October - *meaningfully* out - then
democracy in the UK is about as alive as that Monty Python Norwegian Blue
parrot.



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On Sunday, 28 July 2019 03:45:46 UTC+1, Phil Allison wrote:

Australian TV science guru " Karl Kruszelnicki" once said on air that:

" ... everything in science has a simple,easy to understand explanation - but unfortunately that explanation is always wrong ".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Kruszelnicki

and it's patently obvious his quote is untrue. The claim that nothing has a simple explanation is brainless. Does anyone really believe that all correct explanations must be complex?
 
On Sunday, 28 July 2019 10:50:04 UTC+1, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:31:34 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

I've spoken with people from the eastern bloc, and we've all seen Putin
rig the polls & shut down political opposition.

Only if their names end in "sky" which tells us they're Globalists whose
only interest in Russia is raping it of its natural resources. I'd say
keeping those parasites out of power is a very, very good thing.

all I can say is that made no sense to me


but I do know Britain doesn't have a democracy any more. That much is
obvious, more than 3 years after that Referendum they're still hitched
up to the EUSSR.

It's had a real wobble but looks like we are getting it.

If you're not out by the end of October - *meaningfully* out - then
democracy in the UK is about as alive as that Monty Python Norwegian Blue
parrot.

it looks like we're getting it
 
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 05:48:55 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

> all I can say is that made no sense to me

Robber barons like this pair of thieving cunts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Khodorkovsky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Berezovsky_(businessman)

> it looks like we're getting it

I hope you get it, too. We shall see if the powerful Globalist forces
working to wreck it succeed in the end or not. We won't have long to find
out and we'll know who they are by the end of it all.



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On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 3:15:45 PM UTC+10, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
" ... everything in science has a simple,easy to understand explanation - but >unfortunately that explanation is always wrong ".

I think Mencken said something similar about problems and solutions.

2. Non compulsory voting.

I am all for that under one condition. There is a "None Of The Above" and if that wins then the position goes unfilled until the next normal election.

You can leave the ballot paper completely unmarked - voting may be compulsory in Australia, but it is also secret. You get fined if you don't go the polling station and collect your ballot paper. The quality of the marks you put on that paper is entirely up to you.

> They will never allow that because in some cases half the government would be gone. Of course that is a good thing, but they don't see it that way.

https://www.aec.gov.au/voting/informal_voting/division.htm

The proportion of spoiled ballot papers seems to run between roughly 5% and 10% of the ballots filled in.

<snipped comments about the news>

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On 27/07/2019 2:19 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 1:06:07 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:43:57 -0500, mike.lawler2 wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

Sadly you're right.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

I feel your pain, bro. But it's the same appalling situation outside the
US too.

You people need to learn some history. The state of health of the British population in the WWI era was appalling. Your food supply was of very low quality, and full of adulterants and pathogens. British youth were small, sickly and underdeveloped.
"Almost 40 percent of the volunteers were rejected for medical reasons. Malnutrition was widespread in society, working class 15‑year‑olds had a mean height of 160 cm, while the upper class was 171 cm.[10]"
And the bar for rejection by the military was pretty low!
Do you think swine flu killed so many people because of its virulence? Don't believe it! It killed so many people because of government mismanagement, military mismanagement, and near criminal ignorance and incompetence of authority. Not at all dissimilar to the what's happening today with global warming, except the death toll will be MUCH greater.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruitment_to_the_British_Army_during_the_First_World_War




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All that from someones dumb troll post !! you need to get out more !!
 
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 05:46:49 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

and it's patently obvious his quote is untrue. The claim that nothing
has a simple explanation is brainless. Does anyone really believe that
all correct explanations must be complex?

If you pursue any complex field in science to the frontiers of human
knowledge, you will see the truth - and the humour - in this great quote.




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On 28/07/2019 03:19, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 4:58:24 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:35:22 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

The political changes following the wall are, in typical easterner
words, just politicians changing their jackets. They still don't even
have democracy.

Not sure about that, but I do know Britain doesn't have a democracy any
more. That much is obvious, more than 3 years after that Referendum
they're still hitched up to the EUSSR.

Cursitor Doom does like to keep his arguments simple.

Britain is a representative democracy and has more or less worked out how to manage the democratic election of representatives. They are less practiced with referendums, and let Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage mislead the more gullible fraction of the population (which clearly includes Cursitor Doom) with a barrage of lies.

The business of actually leaving the EU has to be managed by parliament, and it has had enough sense to reject a disastrous no-deal Brexit, while not liking the terms of the deal that May was able to negotiate.

In so far a representative democracy has been able to stave off the destructive consequences of a badly run referendum, the UK does seem to have a working democracy. Boris Johnson may silly enough to undermine that.
As ever Bill, you are confident but wrong.
The business of actually leaving is managed by the government, and they
are answerable (and removable) by Parliament.
The previous PM made something of a mess of things and now we have a new
one, and a mostly a new Government, the British way of doing things
being sufficiently flexible as to be able to achieve this without
elections or revolutions.
Any time Parliament decided that it doesn't like them - then it can boot
them out.
A no deal Brexit doesn't look that disastrous. Current modelling by the
OBR, allowing for no mitigation by countermeasures already in progress,
puts it at a small recession, not ideal, but at least we get our freedom
back. Germany is having a recession just for the fun of it.


MK


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On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 11:44:01 PM UTC-4, mike....@yah00.com wrote:
Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

You sir, are an idiot. 1) no friggin way anyone could push a car 45 mph and 2) keep up with it. 3) If they wern't doing the job, perhaps you should push 4) You would take the chance of having one or both of your kids killed in traffic doing this stupid thing versus paying AAA for a yearly membership/or pay $100 for a tow?
I take issue with the premise about physically lazy kids but more importantly you make a point that perhaps we may be mentally deficient as evidence by this irrational expectation and corresponding post.
Please, Dont feed the trolls.
 
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 17:51:02 +0100, Michael Kellett wrote:

A no deal Brexit doesn't look that disastrous. Current modelling by the
OBR, allowing for no mitigation by countermeasures already in progress,
puts it at a small recession, not ideal, but at least we get our freedom
back. Germany is having a recession just for the fun of it.

Bill Sloman has an unhealthy preoccupation with the goings on of other
countries which are absolutely none of his business. From his bolt-hole
in Australia and getting all his news from CNN, he believes he knows
what's best for the citizens of places like Britain and the USA and has a
deep understanding of their needs and desires - better even than the
people who actually live there!
We're so fortunate to have caring, well-informed, well-intentioned people
like Bill to pull us up when we make disastrous mistakes (like electing
Trump; voting for Brexit etc.) which he knows we'll later come to regret.
Such is the brilliance of this omniscient man's intellect. ;->



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On Sunday, 28 July 2019 15:43:33 UTC+1, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 05:46:49 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

and it's patently obvious his quote is untrue. The claim that nothing
has a simple explanation is brainless. Does anyone really believe that
all correct explanations must be complex?

If you pursue any complex field in science to the frontiers of human
knowledge, you will see the truth - and the humour - in this great quote.

Many things are more complex than they first seem, in the medical field especially, but the idea that nothing is simple is mere foolery.
 
On Monday, July 29, 2019 at 2:51:08 AM UTC+10, Michael Kellett wrote:
On 28/07/2019 03:19, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 4:58:24 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:35:22 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

The political changes following the wall are, in typical easterner
words, just politicians changing their jackets. They still don't even
have democracy.

Not sure about that, but I do know Britain doesn't have a democracy any
more. That much is obvious, more than 3 years after that Referendum
they're still hitched up to the EUSSR.

Cursitor Doom does like to keep his arguments simple.

Britain is a representative democracy and has more or less worked out how to manage the democratic election of representatives. They are less practiced with referendums, and let Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage mislead the more gullible fraction of the population (which clearly includes Cursitor Doom) with a barrage of lies.

The business of actually leaving the EU has to be managed by parliament, and it has had enough sense to reject a disastrous no-deal Brexit, while not liking the terms of the deal that May was able to negotiate.

In so far a representative democracy has been able to stave off the destructive consequences of a badly run referendum, the UK does seem to have a working democracy. Boris Johnson may silly enough to undermine that.

As ever Bill, you are confident but wrong.
The business of actually leaving is managed by the government, and they
are answerable (and removable) by Parliament.

And they haven't managed to agree to anything yet.

The previous PM made something of a mess of things and now we have a new
one, and a mostly a new Government, the British way of doing things
being sufficiently flexible as to be able to achieve this without
elections or revolutions.

Tell me about it after the current British government has succeeded in doing something.

It can be argued that Theresa May was stuck with an insoluble problem, and Boris Johnson is now stuck with the same problem. Changing leaders doesn't change the problem.

Any time Parliament decided that it doesn't like them - then it can boot
them out.

True. But they then have to come up with a new government willing to grasp the poisoned chalice. Boris Johnson badly wanted to be prime minister, and doesn't have a particularly firm grasp of reality. Even British politics isn't all that well supplied with sufficiently megalomaniac twits - anybody who takes over from him will probably want to change the problem to be solved.

A no deal Brexit doesn't look that disastrous. Current modelling by the
OBR, allowing for no mitigation by countermeasures already in progress,
puts it at a small recession, not ideal, but at least we get our freedom
back.

Cutting yourselves off from your major trading partner isn't a great idea. It would help if the UK had stuff to sell, but it doesn't. The recession may be small, but it's also going to be persistent.

> Germany is having a recession just for the fun of it.

Germany isn't in recession yet, even if the economic indicators aren't great.

Germany exports almost as much as the US, despite having only a quarter of the US population. Trump's trade wars have put a crimp in the world's economy and Germany - as a major exporter - is suffering in consequence.

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On Monday, July 29, 2019 at 9:21:16 AM UTC+10, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 28 July 2019 15:43:33 UTC+1, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 05:46:49 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

and it's patently obvious his quote is untrue. The claim that nothing
has a simple explanation is brainless. Does anyone really believe that
all correct explanations must be complex?

If you pursue any complex field in science to the frontiers of human
knowledge, you will see the truth - and the humour - in this great quote.

Many things are more complex than they first seem, in the medical field especially, but the idea that nothing is simple is mere foolery.

Tabbypurr does seem to have been suckered by a number of simple, but wrong, ideas.

Gullible twits do tend to feel better-informed than they are. The art of flattering them into making choices that pay off well for the flatterers is well known - but part of the art is picking targets and bolstering their delusions of competence.

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On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:43:57 -0500, mike.lawler2@yah00.com wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

My youngest engineer, recently promoted from intern, saw me struggling
to get my Tek 11802 off a shelf above my bench. He walked in, nudged
me aside, and lifted it straight up.

The weight is specified as 108 lbs. Yikes.

(It had the dreaded E5622 powerup error. Dead battery-backed Dallas
Smart Socket sram thing.)

Whenever he sees me carrying something heavy, he rushes over to schlep
it for me. Good kid.


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lunatic fringe electronics
 
On Monday, July 29, 2019 at 7:55:43 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 17:51:02 +0100, Michael Kellett wrote:

A no deal Brexit doesn't look that disastrous. Current modelling by the
OBR, allowing for no mitigation by countermeasures already in progress,
puts it at a small recession, not ideal, but at least we get our freedom
back. Germany is having a recession just for the fun of it.

Bill Sloman has an unhealthy preoccupation with the goings on of other
countries which are absolutely none of his business.

I lived in the UK for 22 years and the Netherlands for 19 years, and I've got friends in both countries. We just spent two months in Europe, mostly in the Netherlands

From his bolt-hole in Australia and getting all his news from CNN, he
believes he knows what's best for the citizens of places like Britain and the USA and has a deep understanding of their needs and desires - better even than the people who actually live there!

I don't get any news from CNN. I do follow the news in the quality Australian press while Cursitor Doom seems to read the Daily Mail, which feeds him right-wing nonsense. He doesn't live in the UK either.

We're so fortunate to have caring, well-informed, well-intentioned people
like Bill to pull us up when we make disastrous mistakes (like electing
Trump; voting for Brexit etc.) which he knows we'll later come to regret.
Such is the brilliance of this omniscient man's intellect. ;-

You didn't have to be very bright to realise that Trump was going to be disaster he has turned out to be, or that Brexit was a silly idea. Cursitor Doom is much to dumb to have worked this out yet, and rather resents having it pointed out, but life is difficult for the intellectually challenged, and they do get resentful about it.

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On 29/07/19 01:52, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:43:57 -0500, mike.lawler2@yah00.com wrote:

Today's young people are weaklings.

My car broke down on the freeway. I had my two teenage sons come to
rescue me. I was only 16 miles from home so I told them to push the car
home. They began pushing, while I steered. But they could not exceed
7mph. The speed limit is 60. The minimum speed is 45. I told them they
must push the car at least 45 mph. They could not do it.

What the hell is wrong with today's youth? When I was their age I could
have easily pushed a car at 50mph or more, and back then the cars
weighed more than they do now. Its sad how our youth today have no
muscles. All they do is stare at those goddamn smartphones instead of
becoming strong men.

If America is ever attacked by Russia, we will lose because of our
weakling youth. I blame it all on those goddamn cordless phones and
computers.

My youngest engineer, recently promoted from intern, saw me struggling
to get my Tek 11802 off a shelf above my bench. He walked in, nudged
me aside, and lifted it straight up.

The weight is specified as 108 lbs. Yikes.

(It had the dreaded E5622 powerup error. Dead battery-backed Dallas
Smart Socket sram thing.)

Whenever he sees me carrying something heavy, he rushes over to schlep
it for me. Good kid.

Every home should have one.

Hope you don't become responsible for his knackering his
back. That's one of the things that squicks me.
 

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