TI new products...

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.
Click to expand...

Yeah, but the TV isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a leased
or purchased translation box. You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.
Click to expand...

It was hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time. Unless software-SIM gets a boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more. Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.
Click to expand...

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.
 
On Tue, 03 May 2022 05:40:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 02 May 2022 16:51:38 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
7cr07hp81i2qmgeoef7sj9od6p5ho7fdll@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.

My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

Make no sense whatsoever.
First there is diversity for security
if your one for all thing is down, nothing works.
Click to expand...

A microcell mesh can have redundancy at all levels. It would be better
than a mess of various services.


Then there are radio frequencies like used by aircraft, ships,
and other services that have totally different requirements.
Click to expand...

The RF spectrum is chopped up amongst many services. A common band
would be much more efficient.


Use the best system for the required purpose and frequency.
Make sure there is redundancy.
You are just dreaming. Mindless babble, no in depth knowledge, no experience.
Click to expand...

Why do so many people refuse to imagine progress? 100 years ago you
would have refused to believe that there could ever be TVs or
computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6G_(network)




--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On a sunny day (Tue, 03 May 2022 07:16:15 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<mrd27h99ochpb3ougpkko45esjg17f38bi@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 03 May 2022 05:40:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 02 May 2022 16:51:38 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
7cr07hp81i2qmgeoef7sj9od6p5ho7fdll@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.

My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

Make no sense whatsoever.
First there is diversity for security
if your one for all thing is down, nothing works.

A microcell mesh can have redundancy at all levels. It would be better
than a mess of various services.


Then there are radio frequencies like used by aircraft, ships,
and other services that have totally different requirements.

The RF spectrum is chopped up amongst many services. A common band
would be much more efficient.


Use the best system for the required purpose and frequency.
Make sure there is redundancy.
You are just dreaming. Mindless babble, no in depth knowledge, no experience.

Why do so many people refuse to imagine progress? 100 years ago you
would have refused to believe that there could ever be TVs or
computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6G_(network)
Click to expand...

Strawman
Look dude, if you just wannabe right why not start a twitter account where your devotees can praise your genius while you play with your teddy bear
 
On Tue, 03 May 2022 16:27:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 03 May 2022 07:16:15 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
mrd27h99ochpb3ougpkko45esjg17f38bi@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 03 May 2022 05:40:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 02 May 2022 16:51:38 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
7cr07hp81i2qmgeoef7sj9od6p5ho7fdll@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.

My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

Make no sense whatsoever.
First there is diversity for security
if your one for all thing is down, nothing works.

A microcell mesh can have redundancy at all levels. It would be better
than a mess of various services.


Then there are radio frequencies like used by aircraft, ships,
and other services that have totally different requirements.

The RF spectrum is chopped up amongst many services. A common band
would be much more efficient.


Use the best system for the required purpose and frequency.
Make sure there is redundancy.
You are just dreaming. Mindless babble, no in depth knowledge, no experience.

Why do so many people refuse to imagine progress? 100 years ago you
would have refused to believe that there could ever be TVs or
computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6G_(network)

Strawman
Look dude, if you just wannabe right why not start a twitter account where your devotees can praise your genius while you play with your teddy bear
Click to expand...

You would not have believed that twitter was possible either.

I guess the US Mail delivery and classified ads in newspapers was all
anyone needed.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a leased
or purchased translation box. You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time. Unless software-SIM gets a boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more. Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.
Click to expand...

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On 5/3/2022 19:58, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a leased
or purchased translation box. You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time. Unless software-SIM gets a boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more. Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.
Click to expand...

I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.
What we deem impossible is just what we are unable to do at the current
stage of our knowledge. There probably is a limit to how far our
knowledge can go so there will always be impossible things - for us...
:)
 
On Tue, 3 May 2022 21:14:31 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 5/3/2022 19:58, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a leased
or purchased translation box. You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time. Unless software-SIM gets a boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more. Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.


I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.
Click to expand...

But that\'s a basic part of electronic design, imagining things that
haven\'t been done, or can\'t be done.



Why, sometimes I\'ve believed as many as six impossible things before
breakfast.

- The Red Queen


--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 5/3/2022 19:58, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV  isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a
leased
or purchased translation box.  You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was  hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your
phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time.  Unless software-SIM gets a
boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more.  Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s
supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It
isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use,
though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it.   And that
someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.


I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.
Click to expand...

You can\'t imagine a perpetual motion machine, or a lens that forms an
image hotter than the (thermal) source?


Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 5/3/2022 21:41, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2022 21:14:31 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 5/3/2022 19:58, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a leased
or purchased translation box. You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time. Unless software-SIM gets a boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more. Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.


I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.

But that\'s a basic part of electronic design, imagining things that
haven\'t been done, or can\'t be done.
Click to expand...

If you can imagine it it is possible, this is my point.
 
On 5/3/2022 22:49, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 5/3/2022 19:58, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV  isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a
leased
or purchased translation box.  You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was  hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your
phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time.  Unless software-SIM gets a
boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more.  Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s
supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks.
It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use,
though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it.   And that
someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.


I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.

You can\'t imagine a perpetual motion machine, or a lens that forms an
image hotter than the (thermal) source?


Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Click to expand...

These are impossible only in our realm. The point is, if we can think
of something it is doable, not necessarily by us or in our reality :).
 
On Tue, 03 May 2022 16:27:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 03 May 2022 07:16:15 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
mrd27h99ochpb3ougpkko45esjg17f38bi@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 03 May 2022 05:40:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 02 May 2022 16:51:38 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
7cr07hp81i2qmgeoef7sj9od6p5ho7fdll@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.

My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

Make no sense whatsoever.
First there is diversity for security
if your one for all thing is down, nothing works.

A microcell mesh can have redundancy at all levels. It would be better
than a mess of various services.


Then there are radio frequencies like used by aircraft, ships,
and other services that have totally different requirements.

The RF spectrum is chopped up amongst many services. A common band
would be much more efficient.


Use the best system for the required purpose and frequency.
Make sure there is redundancy.
You are just dreaming. Mindless babble, no in depth knowledge, no experience.

Why do so many people refuse to imagine progress? 100 years ago you
would have refused to believe that there could ever be TVs or
computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6G_(network)

Strawman
Look dude, if you just wannabe right why not start a twitter account where your devotees can praise your genius while you play with your teddy bear
Click to expand...

It\'s coming a bit sooner than I expected:

https://techxplore.com/news/2022-05-wi-fi-lamppost.html

60 GHz Wifi everywhere.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 9:59:06 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.
Click to expand...

Aha! You said \'likely\'; that\'s not a good sign, when John Larkin gets
statistical. As for me, I\'m not eager to let the world have access to
my alarm clock\'s controls. Short-range access is my best plan.

Global unlimited connection may be possible, but is unworthy of support.
 
On Tue, 3 May 2022 17:40:38 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 9:59:06 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.

Aha! You said \'likely\'; that\'s not a good sign, when John Larkin gets
statistical. As for me, I\'m not eager to let the world have access to
my alarm clock\'s controls. Short-range access is my best plan.

Global unlimited connection may be possible, but is unworthy of support.
Click to expand...

More likely every day.

https://techxplore.com/news/2022-05-wi-fi-lamppost.html

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 5/3/2022 22:49, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 5/3/2022 19:58, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and
internet networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT
compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you
need a leased or purchased translation box. You cannot
switch without a proprietary box and some license
restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with
region and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones
interconnect, but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\'
hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s
iPhone will keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but
your phones are still unlikely to support using two SIMs at
the same time. Unless software-SIM gets a boost, it\'ll never
go to three or more. Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s
supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for
networks. It isn\'t generally the one phones, utility
meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one
wireless network for everything. It makes too much sense to
not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And
that someone is a salesman you might not want to do business
with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things
are impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.


I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the
impossible.

You can\'t imagine a perpetual motion machine, or a lens that forms
an image hotter than the (thermal) source?


These are impossible only in our realm.
Click to expand...

I.e. in the real world.

The point is, if we can think of something it is doable, not
necessarily by us or in our reality :).
Click to expand...

Ah. Thanks, that explains a lot about your pragmatic outlook. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On 05/03/2022 08:16 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Why do so many people refuse to imagine progress? 100 years ago you
would have refused to believe that there could ever be TVs or
computers.
Click to expand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxDTeoeWZeI

Where the hell is my flying car? My baseline is the 1964 World\'s Fair. I
was in high school so maybe I was young and naive but there was a
feeling in the air of optimism. There have been plenty of technological
advances but that optimism didn\'t even make it through the \'60s.
 
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:42:12 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2022 21:14:31 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:
On 5/3/2022 19:58, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 23:53:05 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:49:46 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It\'s not hard.

TV satellite, TV cable, and TV broadcast are NOT compatible.
My TV works with all of them. I can switch any time.

Yeah, but the TV isn\'t cable-ready, nor satellite-ready, you need a leased
or purchased translation box. You cannot switch without a
proprietary box and some license restrictions.

Neither is Blu-Ray and DVD completely compatible with region
and hardware-license restrictions. Cell phones interconnect,
but the networks aren\'t \'compatible\' hardwares.

I can switch cell providers and my Samsung and my wife\'s iPhone will
keep working. Over the air and wi-fi.

It was hard (took legislation) to get phones unlocked, but your phones are still unlikely to
support using two SIMs at the same time. Unless software-SIM gets a boost,
it\'ll never go to three or more. Buying into ONE at a time, that\'s supported.

As for internet, YES, that\'s a compatibility layer for networks. It isn\'t
generally the one phones, utility meters, and TV broadcast use, though.

I project that one day not too far off we\'ll have one wireless network
for everything. It makes too much sense to not do.

If it makes sense, someone will claim they have it. And that someone is
a salesman you might not want to do business with.

I think things are possible. Some people insist that things are
impossible. It\'s more likely that I\'m right.
Click to expand...

John Larkin has an exaggerated idea of his own expertise. So do a lot of the people who insist that stuff is impossible.

I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.

But that\'s a basic part of electronic design, imagining things that haven\'t been done, or can\'t be done.
Click to expand...

There\'s a big gap between imagining things that haven\'t been done - the unexpected - and imagining things that can\'t be done - the impossible.

The first gets you patents - and I\'ve got a couple (while John Larkin has his name on one) and the other is a great way of getting stuck with a project that can\'t be made to work. I had to work quite hard to get myself out of one of them

Why, sometimes I\'ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.

- The Red Queen
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It\'s probably not a particularly useful mental exercise.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2022 21:14:31 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.

But that\'s a basic part of electronic design, imagining things that
haven\'t been done, or can\'t be done.
Click to expand...

But neither of those categories is \'impossible\'.

There\'s many uses of imagination, but fewer for imagining impossibilities.
The most important, the reductio ad absurdam proof, is ... not so
important that most people would recognize the phrase.
 
On Tue, 3 May 2022 20:51:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2022 21:14:31 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.

But that\'s a basic part of electronic design, imagining things that
haven\'t been done, or can\'t be done.

But neither of those categories is \'impossible\'.

There\'s many uses of imagination, but fewer for imagining impossibilities.
The most important, the reductio ad absurdam proof, is ... not so
important that most people would recognize the phrase.
Click to expand...

1. Imagining impossibilities exercizes the imagine muscles.

2. Sometimes a great idea is out in the solution space hiding among
impossible ideas. Go poke around out there.

3. Rejecting new ideas is endemic to humanity, for several reasons.
Fight that tendency if you want to design cool stuff.

4. Respect one or two solid conservation principles, but otherwise
mock \"good engineering practice.\"

5. Doodle a lot. Paper is cheap.





--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 11:15:14 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2022 20:51:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2022 21:14:31 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

I don\'t think humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible.

But that\'s a basic part of electronic design, imagining things that
haven\'t been done, or can\'t be done.

But neither of those categories is \'impossible\'.

There\'s many uses of imagination, but fewer for imagining impossibilities.
The most important, the reductio ad absurdam proof, is ... not so
important that most people would recognize the phrase.

1. Imagining impossibilities exercizes the imagine muscles.
Click to expand...

There aren\'t any. Absurd analogies aren\'t in the least useful.

2. Sometimes a great idea is out in the solution space hiding among
impossible ideas. Go poke around out there.
Click to expand...

Don\'t be silly.

3. Rejecting new ideas is endemic to humanity, for several reasons.
Fight that tendency if you want to design cool stuff.
Click to expand...

\"Not invented here\" isn\'t a good attitude. Objecting to other people\'s new ideas, even if the other people are part of the same organsiation, does happen quite a lot too. Quite a few people do think that their own ideas are insanely good, and reject anything that anybody else comes up with because it competes with their brain children.

Quite a few people have quite a few new ideas, none of which are ever any good. When I worked at EMI Central research, one of our colleagues made more patent applications per year than anybody else. None of them seemed to turn into patents. When I was working there I had what struck me as fairly obvious idea. After a number of people had told me that it couldn\'t possibly be right, and I\'d repeatedly had to go to the trouble of explaining why it couldn\'t possibly be wrong, we turned it into a patent application (and - in due course - a patent). There were a couple of others, but we got to them rather more conventionally.

Making a fuss about whether an idea is \"new\" isn\'t a useful way of spending your time. Worrying whether it will work is much more useful.

> 4. Respect one or two solid conservation principles, but otherwise mock \"good engineering practice.\"

Not a good idea. Do try to understand why people did things that way in the past, but keep in mind that new approaches don\'t have to work the same way as the old one did.

> 5. Doodle a lot. Paper is cheap.

Calculate a lot. Computer time is pretty cheap too, and you can be a bit more rigorous with computer models than you can with pencil scribbles.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tue, 3 May 2022 20:16:26 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 05/03/2022 08:16 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Why do so many people refuse to imagine progress? 100 years ago you
would have refused to believe that there could ever be TVs or
computers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxDTeoeWZeI

Where the hell is my flying car? My baseline is the 1964 World\'s Fair. I
was in high school so maybe I was young and naive but there was a
feeling in the air of optimism. There have been plenty of technological
advances but that optimism didn\'t even make it through the \'60s.
Click to expand...

I was at the \'64 fair!

We got PCs, internet, drones, cell phones, LCD and Oled color TVs,
fiberoptics, nanometer ICs, medical advances, SUVs, social media, all
sorts of great-ish stuff.

What the great things have in common is that they were *not*
anticipated at the World\'s Fair. Futurism ain\'t what it used to be.

I\'m still optimistic. There is plenty of stuff left to invent.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
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