This Story Makes The Trump Administration Look VERY Bad

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:10:55 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:29:34 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

OCD isn't "a little more hand washing" though, John. It's pathalogical.

Washing your hands after a bus ride or getting home from work or using
the toilet isn't compulsive.

No, no, no. I'm talking about people who wash their hands *dozens* of
times a day without even getting them dirty in between times.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Only if you're somewhat autistic.

My autism doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely weird.

Oops! Sorry, John. I didn't know that.

It's even
stranger when your team has 5 people and theirs has 6 and everyone has
to shake. Clumsy and unsanitary.

Just be grateful you don't live in Germany, then. It's still fairly
common for everyone in a bar to shake hands with everyone else whether
you know them or not on both arriving and leaving!

Bowing is better. It's optocoupled and it can be done in parallel.

Waving is good too.

Yeah, waving's about as safe as it gets.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-04-19 17:43, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:

Am 19.04.20 um 22:08 schrieb Phil Hobbs:

Way too new agey for me.  Folks round here have started just bumping
elbows.

First they told us they told us to better cough into the elbow
and now that.

Cheers, Gerhard

You cough into the inside of the elbow and bump the outside. In any
case, you can't touch your elbow to your face.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[John S]

On 4/19/2020 1:10 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:32:27 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Since China was allowing tens of thousands of people to fly all over the world and start epidemics in Europe, North America, central Asia, and east Asia, Middle East, it can hardly be said they did any kind of job at containment. The medical intelligence types who study these things and knew what was going on didn't need a particularly good crystal ball to forecast how things would unfold. The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

Good grief, nobody knows that stuff even now. Lethality estimates
range from 20% to 0.03%.

Just a few cases in a country, maybe even one, would seed an epidemic
of a virus that spreads rapidly and is mostly asymptomatic. The USA
had tens of thousands of seeds from asia and europe and across our
land borders and from cruise ships before the panic set in. Blame
Trump for not being God, for not knowing six months in advance "what
was going to happen."

The lefty press is happy to have this as another reason to bash DT.

I think if Trump stopped suddenly, you would have your nose up his ass.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-04-19 16:21, Pimpom wrote:

On 4/20/2020 1:38 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-19 16:04, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/19/2020 11:59 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Maybe we should change it to headshaking. BTW, when I spent some time in
south India in my youth, I was amazed to see that shaking one's head
meant 'yes', particularly when it's meant to convey complete agreement.
But I got used to it and sometimes found myself doing the same thing.

The Indian 'namaste', though normally not used in my state, is a good
substitute for handshaking.


Way too new agey for me.  Folks round here have started just bumping
elbows.


That still involves close physical contact. No one will consider it odd
if you perform a namaste from 20 ft away or even 50 ft. It can
substitute for both a handshake and a wave.

You can't touch your face with your elbow. Try it sometime.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:45:21 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

There's no problem. I'm fine with the way I was born. All that
socializing is a waste of time anyhow.

Haha! You're not wrong there! :-D

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 22:20:05 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:10:55 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:29:34 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

OCD isn't "a little more hand washing" though, John. It's pathalogical.

Washing your hands after a bus ride or getting home from work or using
the toilet isn't compulsive.

No, no, no. I'm talking about people who wash their hands *dozens* of
times a day without even getting them dirty in between times.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Only if you're somewhat autistic.

My autism doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely weird.

Oops! Sorry, John. I didn't know that.

There's no problem. I'm fine with the way I was born. All that
socializing is a waste of time anyhow.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[bitrex]

On 4/19/2020 11:10 AM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

At this point anyone who thinks it looks bad thought it looked bad a
long time ago, and anyone who still likes the guy will still like him no
matter what he does, yep even shoot someone or shoot ten thousand people
it doesn't matter.

 

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
news:13fc68e8-3db0-483d-a99d-2d987be71a4d@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-7,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:


Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every
situation

They're sure popular right now, about this cold virus.

Virus, yes. Cold, no; it was always anomalous, not the same
symptoms as any cold or flu.

But in general, most people let unreasonable fear overpower
thinking.

There's the Larkin Syndrome again. It only took two sentences to
go back there.

Like he knows what "most people" have, do, are like, think, etc.
etc. etc. etc. etc.

He is one of the few idiots out there able to even morph the
dunning-kruger effect into a convoluted joke.

 

[whit3rd]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:


Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

They're sure popular right now, about this cold virus.

Virus, yes. Cold, no; it was always anomalous, not the same symptoms
as any cold or flu.

> But in general, most people let unreasonable fear overpower thinking.

There's the Larkin Syndrome again. It only took two sentences to go back there.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/19/2020 8:12 PM, whit3rd wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:


Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

They're sure popular right now, about this cold virus.

Virus, yes. Cold, no; it was always anomalous, not the same symptoms
as any cold or flu.

But in general, most people let unreasonable fear overpower thinking.

There's the Larkin Syndrome again. It only took two sentences to go back there.

Larkin has likely never had much opportunity to experience real fear in
his life I expect. so the concept of what it is never took form in his
mind.

I doubt he's ever been in a real street-fight or taken a punch in anger
from someone capable of doing real harm. That's not uncommon among young
men today either - all Internet tough-talk but they've never once been
in a real fight or drilled straight in the mouth and down to the ground
for running their mouth at the wrong time, at the wrong dude.

A small amount of life experience like that does tend to engender a
certain humility.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/19/2020 8:47 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 4/19/2020 8:12 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-7,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:


Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

They're sure popular right now, about this cold virus.

Virus,  yes.   Cold, no; it was always anomalous, not the same symptoms
as any cold or flu.

But in general, most people let unreasonable fear overpower thinking.

There's the Larkin Syndrome again.   It only took two sentences to go
back there.


Larkin has likely never had much opportunity to experience real fear in
his life I expect. so the concept of what it is never took form in his
mind.

I doubt he's ever been in a real street-fight or taken a punch in anger
from someone capable of doing real harm. That's not uncommon among young
men today either - all Internet tough-talk but they've never once been
in a real fight or drilled straight in the mouth and down to the ground
for running their mouth at the wrong time, at the wrong dude.

A small amount of life experience like that does tend to engender a
certain humility.

BTW teenagers who intend to do you real harm come at you by surprise and
they come at you in number, if that wasn't the situation then one
probably wasn't in real danger.

 

[Ricky C]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 2:11:10 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:32:27 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Since China was allowing tens of thousands of people to fly all over the world and start epidemics in Europe, North America, central Asia, and east Asia, Middle East, it can hardly be said they did any kind of job at containment. The medical intelligence types who study these things and knew what was going on didn't need a particularly good crystal ball to forecast how things would unfold. The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

Good grief, nobody knows that stuff even now. Lethality estimates
range from 20% to 0.03%.

Yes, the estimates of "lethality" range depending on how it is calculated because the numbers are all moving targets with different factors of how the relate to the disease at any given point.

Here are numbers that have meaning without worrying about how they are calculated, 165,058 deaths and growing by thousands per day. In the US there are already 40,000 deaths and the rate has yet to slow down significantly.

So if we were at the peak of a symmetrical curve we would estimate 80,000 deaths at the end of this disease. But the way the curve is not dropping off there's no reason to think we will be out of the woods for months with a lot more deaths to come.

--

Rick C.

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[Ricky C]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 2:19:15 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:00:46 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

walking up on the right side without a mask. I passed a woman walking
down, wearing a cloth mask. When she saw me, she leaped to the side of
the path and hunched down against the opposite sidewall until I passed.

Hmmmm.. https://tinyurl.com/ya2a7wvy



I hope her PTSD doesn't disable her for too many years.

Not sure about PTSD, but I reckon OCD-sufferer numbers will skyrocket
over the next few years as people develop an obsessive aversion to germs
and modify their behaviour in psychologically-unhealthy ways.

What would be "psychologically-unhealthy" about avoiding germs? I have what I consider to be an OCD about not touching the door handles when I leave a public washroom. It's a bit of a bother at times, but I don't see how it is "psychologically-unhealthy". It's not causing other psychological problems like paranoia or delusions.

We talk about the 30,000+ a year that die of numerous other flu like diseases and how we don't do anything about them. This is something that SHOULD stick with us to help with those other diseases.

--

Rick C.

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On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 23:30:19 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:45:21 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

There's no problem. I'm fine with the way I was born. All that
socializing is a waste of time anyhow.

Haha! You're not wrong there! :-D

What I (naturally) don't understand is how stressful the lockdown is
for people-people, people who have a deep need for social interaction.
Mo and I are kinda glad to be alone together now.

What seems to be bad is two people who are confined in a very small
space, like a 1br apartment. Some of my people are begging to get back
to work, even though they are paid either way. One guy comes to work
voluntarily and brings his wife, so they can both get out of their apt
and have some distance too.

How many people here are actually working? I appreciate that some
generally don't anyhow.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 4:11:10 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:32:27 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.

Since China was allowing tens of thousands of people to fly all over the world and start epidemics in Europe, North America, central Asia, and east Asia, Middle East, it can hardly be said they did any kind of job at containment.

They managed to stop the epidemic in Wuhan. The people who flew out of Wuhan before it was put into lock-down did spread the virus across the world, ut it did take about six weeks from the first recorded case (1st December 2019) before message go through to the Chinese central government.

Once the knew what was going on they did a remarkably good job of containing the epidemic, which makes the US performance unforgivably bad.

The medical intelligence types who study these things and knew what was going on didn't need a particularly good crystal ball to forecast how things would unfold. The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

Good grief, nobody knows that stuff even now. Lethality estimates
range from 20% to 0.03%.

They have ranged that widely. We know have a lot more information (and lot more dead people) and have now got a much better grip on who it kills, and how often.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

John Larkin doesn't seem to have noticed.

Just a few cases in a country, maybe even one, would seed an epidemic
of a virus that spreads rapidly and is mostly asymptomatic.

It isn't "mostly asymptomatic". Some people with robust immune systems beat the disease without ever showing overt symptoms, but it's no more than half the people who get infected, and probably a lot less. Contact tracing does put an upper limit on that number, way lower than the silly numbers that John Larki has claimed here.

The USA had tens of thousands of seeds from asia and europe and across our
land borders and from cruise ships before the panic set in. Blame
Trump for not being God, for not knowing six months in advance "what
was going to happen."

The US was recognising visitors with Covid-19 and putting them into isolation for about a month before one got away and started the US epidemic.

If Trump hadn't got the message by then, he wasn't listening. He doesn't seem to all that good at listening.

> The lefty press is happy to have this as another reason to bash DT.

They much prefer to have a more competent president who they could bash about making less catastrophic mistakes.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:47:16 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/19/2020 8:12 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:


Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

They're sure popular right now, about this cold virus.

Virus, yes. Cold, no; it was always anomalous, not the same symptoms
as any cold or flu.

But in general, most people let unreasonable fear overpower thinking.

There's the Larkin Syndrome again. It only took two sentences to go back there.


Larkin has likely never had much opportunity to experience real fear in
his life I expect.

Correct.

so the concept of what it is never took form in his
>mind.

I have to observe its curious effects second-hand.

I doubt he's ever been in a real street-fight or taken a punch in anger
from someone capable of doing real harm. That's not uncommon among young
men today either - all Internet tough-talk but they've never once been
in a real fight or drilled straight in the mouth and down to the ground
for running their mouth at the wrong time, at the wrong dude.

A small amount of life experience like that does tend to engender a
certain humility.

Oh, I've had some violence, almost killed a few times. But why would I
run my mouth at any dude? Why would anyone sane seek a street fight?
Friendly takes less energy and spills less beer.

In electronics design, the consequences of taking risks is small and
easily planned for. The payoffs can be huge. But even there, people
miss out because they are afraid.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 6:58:10 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:11:10 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

Good grief, nobody knows that stuff even now. Lethality estimates
range from 20% to 0.03%.

No, they don't. You're either lying, or deliberately confusing the quantities
being estimated..

...tens of thousands of seeds from asia and europe and across our
land borders and from cruise ships before the panic set in. Blame
Trump for not being God, for not knowing six months in advance "what
was going to happen."

The task for a president is to set up a central response; we're kinda
in the dark about what that response IS, because of 'security' and
because the Donald is proposing to blame every entity while giving
himself a '10', we can only conclude that he's not confident.

Blame Democrats. Blame China. Blame WHO. Defer to Pence's "authority",
or to the authority of the states; blame will follow.
Blame manufacturers filling international orders. Blame everyone who shows
up at a border. He hasn't tried blaming Fauci, but it's likely on his to-do list.

John Larkin, of course, blames panic.

I don't blame panic for anything but long lines at Safeway and
probably unnecessary economic damage.

Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

They're sure popular right now, about this cold virus.

John Larkin is fatuously optimistic, and sees perfectly reasonable caution as fear, hysteria and panic. He's foolhardy, and criticises people who have more sense for not being as silly as he is.

> But in general, most people let unreasonable fear overpower thinking.

John Larkin doesn't do any thinking, and it's his uninformed lack of fear that is unreasonable.

<snipped one more example of his attitude>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Ricky C]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 5:46:07 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 2020-04-19 17:43, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 19.04.20 um 22:08 schrieb Phil Hobbs:

Way too new agey for me.  Folks round here have started just bumping
elbows.

First they told us they told us to better cough into the elbow
and now that.

Cheers, Gerhard

You cough into the inside of the elbow and bump the outside. In any
case, you can't touch your elbow to your face.

I can easily touch my face with the part I'm coughing into. That's how it's done. Put your elbow over your mouth and cough into it.

Bumping elbows is still not a great idea. But if you are going to sit in an hour long meeting in a confined space, I'm pretty sure viruses will be exchanged, 6 foot separation or not.

--

Rick C.

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[Ricky C]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 5:23:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 4/19/2020 11:32 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.


Trump doesn't much care if he saves something or wrecks it so long as
his name is in the headline and the history books as the man responsible

To Trump blame is rather like carbon credits. You keep people around who can assume the liability for blame. They are then shed from the group after they have taken their capacity. So he is paying them for their blame credits.

--

Rick C.

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[Ricky C]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 5:11:04 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:29:34 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

OCD isn't "a little more hand washing" though, John. It's pathalogical.

Washing your hands after a bus ride or getting home from work or using
the toilet isn't compulsive.

Lol Reminds me of a friend with acrophobia. He acknowledges it's a phobia, but says it's a good one to have! Lol

Doing things is only a compulsion if you can't be happy without doing them. If you feel uncomfortable not washing your hands after a bus ride, then it's a compulsion. Compulsions are not always bad, but they're always compulsions.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Only if you're somewhat autistic.

My autism doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely weird. It's
even stranger when your team has 5 people and theirs has 6 and
everyone has to shake. Clumsy and unsanitary.

Bowing is better. It's optocoupled and it can be done in parallel.

Waving is good too.

It is sanitary, but clearly not weird. You get pretty much as much exposure to diseases touching the same doorknob. At least if 11 of you are in a meeting when it's over only one has to hold the door.

--

Rick C.

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