This Story Makes The Trump Administration Look VERY Bad

U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:32:27 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Since China was allowing tens of thousands of people to fly all over the world and start epidemics in Europe, North America, central Asia, and east Asia, Middle East, it can hardly be said they did any kind of job at containment. The medical intelligence types who study these things and knew what was going on didn't need a particularly good crystal ball to forecast how things would unfold. The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

We have a giant surplus of ventlators, which may kill people anyhow,
and for the general public cosmetic masks aren't very helpful.


I was walking across the freeway to my car yesterday, over this,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/je20gggpwmel0jp/Spiral_Park.jpg?raw=1

walking up on the right side without a mask. I passed a woman walking
down, wearing a cloth mask. When she saw me, she leaped to the side of
the path and hunched down against the opposite sidewall until I
passed.

I hope her PTSD doesn't disable her for too many years.






--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:32:27 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Since China was allowing tens of thousands of people to fly all over the world and start epidemics in Europe, North America, central Asia, and east Asia, Middle East, it can hardly be said they did any kind of job at containment. The medical intelligence types who study these things and knew what was going on didn't need a particularly good crystal ball to forecast how things would unfold. The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

Good grief, nobody knows that stuff even now. Lethality estimates
range from 20% to 0.03%.

Just a few cases in a country, maybe even one, would seed an epidemic
of a virus that spreads rapidly and is mostly asymptomatic. The USA
had tens of thousands of seeds from asia and europe and across our
land borders and from cruise ships before the panic set in. Blame
Trump for not being God, for not knowing six months in advance "what
was going to happen."

The lefty press is happy to have this as another reason to bash DT.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:00:46 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

walking up on the right side without a mask. I passed a woman walking
down, wearing a cloth mask. When she saw me, she leaped to the side of
the path and hunched down against the opposite sidewall until I passed.

Hmmmm.. https://tinyurl.com/ya2a7wvy

I hope her PTSD doesn't disable her for too many years.

Not sure about PTSD, but I reckon OCD-sufferer numbers will skyrocket
over the next few years as people develop an obsessive aversion to germs
and modify their behaviour in psychologically-unhealthy ways.

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:19:11 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:00:46 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

walking up on the right side without a mask. I passed a woman walking
down, wearing a cloth mask. When she saw me, she leaped to the side of
the path and hunched down against the opposite sidewall until I passed.

Hmmmm.. https://tinyurl.com/ya2a7wvy



I hope her PTSD doesn't disable her for too many years.

Not sure about PTSD, but I reckon OCD-sufferer numbers will skyrocket
over the next few years as people develop an obsessive aversion to germs
and modify their behaviour in psychologically-unhealthy ways.

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Pimpom]

On 4/19/2020 11:59 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Maybe we should change it to headshaking. BTW, when I spent some
time in south India in my youth, I was amazed to see that shaking
one's head meant 'yes', particularly when it's meant to convey
complete agreement. But I got used to it and sometimes found
myself doing the same thing.

The Indian 'namaste', though normally not used in my state, is a
good substitute for handshaking.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-04-19 16:04, Pimpom wrote:

On 4/19/2020 11:59 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Maybe we should change it to headshaking. BTW, when I spent some time in
south India in my youth, I was amazed to see that shaking one's head
meant 'yes', particularly when it's meant to convey complete agreement.
But I got used to it and sometimes found myself doing the same thing.

The Indian 'namaste', though normally not used in my state, is a good
substitute for handshaking.

Way too new agey for me. Folks round here have started just bumping elbows.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:29:34 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

OCD isn't "a little more hand washing" though, John. It's pathalogical.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Only if you're somewhat autistic.

 

[Pimpom]

On 4/20/2020 1:38 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 2020-04-19 16:04, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/19/2020 11:59 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Maybe we should change it to headshaking. BTW, when I spent some time in
south India in my youth, I was amazed to see that shaking one's head
meant 'yes', particularly when it's meant to convey complete agreement.
But I got used to it and sometimes found myself doing the same thing.

The Indian 'namaste', though normally not used in my state, is a good
substitute for handshaking.


Way too new agey for me. Folks round here have started just bumping elbows.

That still involves close physical contact. No one will consider
it odd if you perform a namaste from 20 ft away or even 50 ft. It
can substitute for both a handshake and a wave.

 

[whit3rd]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:11:10 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

Good grief, nobody knows that stuff even now. Lethality estimates
range from 20% to 0.03%.

No, they don't. You're either lying, or deliberately confusing the quantities
being estimated..

...tens of thousands of seeds from asia and europe and across our
land borders and from cruise ships before the panic set in. Blame
Trump for not being God, for not knowing six months in advance "what
was going to happen."

The task for a president is to set up a central response; we're kinda
in the dark about what that response IS, because of 'security' and
because the Donald is proposing to blame every entity while giving
himself a '10', we can only conclude that he's not confident.

Blame Democrats. Blame China. Blame WHO. Defer to Pence's "authority",
or to the authority of the states; blame will follow.
Blame manufacturers filling international orders. Blame everyone who shows
up at a border. He hasn't tried blaming Fauci, but it's likely on his to-do list.

John Larkin, of course, blames panic.
Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

 

[bitrex]

On 4/19/2020 11:32 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:10:37 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

Let's just say that Donald Trump doesn't seem to have access to a particularly reliable crystal ball.

It's actually pretty odd that the US has done such a bad job of containing the epidemic. China seems to have contained it pretty effectively from a standing start, and places like Taiwan and South Korea had more warning and did better.

Trump doesn't much care if he saves something or wrecks it so long as
his name is in the headline and the history books as the man responsible

 

[Pimpom]

On 4/20/2020 2:31 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:34:01 +0530, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 4/19/2020 11:59 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Maybe we should change it to headshaking. BTW, when I spent some
time in south India in my youth, I was amazed to see that shaking
one's head meant 'yes', particularly when it's meant to convey
complete agreement. But I got used to it and sometimes found
myself doing the same thing.

Vertical shake is yes, horizontal is no.

Not in South India.
Vertical is a nod, horizontal is a shake.

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:11:10 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

The administration had plenty of information coming in from their own government about what was going to happen, how fast it was going to happen, the lethality of the virus, and they ignored all of it.

Good grief, nobody knows that stuff even now. Lethality estimates
range from 20% to 0.03%.

No, they don't. You're either lying, or deliberately confusing the quantities
being estimated..

...tens of thousands of seeds from asia and europe and across our
land borders and from cruise ships before the panic set in. Blame
Trump for not being God, for not knowing six months in advance "what
was going to happen."

The task for a president is to set up a central response; we're kinda
in the dark about what that response IS, because of 'security' and
because the Donald is proposing to blame every entity while giving
himself a '10', we can only conclude that he's not confident.

Blame Democrats. Blame China. Blame WHO. Defer to Pence's "authority",
or to the authority of the states; blame will follow.
Blame manufacturers filling international orders. Blame everyone who shows
up at a border. He hasn't tried blaming Fauci, but it's likely on his to-do list.

John Larkin, of course, blames panic.

I don't blame panic for anything but long lines at Safeway and
probably unnecessary economic damage.

>Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

They're sure popular right now, about this cold virus.

But in general, most people let unreasonable fear overpower thinking.

We have a great Meyer lemon tree. [1]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dc5dn6p0ctz751k/Lemons_Apr_2020.jpg?raw=1

My neighbor across the street wanted some lemons and a pollen sample.
But he's too afraid to walk through our house and go into the back
yard. I picked a few lemons and a couple of flowers and put them in a
baggie and left it outside our front door. He picked it up late last
night, no doubt wearing a mask and gloves. I wonder how he's going to
handle it from there.

[1] with an LED RatLight. It keeps away rats that used to climb the
tree at night and skin our lemons.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kwzfbkv1ua41p9i/Lemons_Post-Rat.JPG?raw=1

Maybe my Spice run is done now.











--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:34:01 +0530, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 4/19/2020 11:59 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Maybe we should change it to headshaking. BTW, when I spent some
time in south India in my youth, I was amazed to see that shaking
one's head meant 'yes', particularly when it's meant to convey
complete agreement. But I got used to it and sometimes found
myself doing the same thing.

Vertical shake is yes, horizontal is no.

The Indian 'namaste', though normally not used in my state, is a
good substitute for handshaking.

The japanese have been sanitary for thousands of years. They bow.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:08:14 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-04-19 16:04, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/19/2020 11:59 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Maybe we should change it to headshaking. BTW, when I spent some time in
south India in my youth, I was amazed to see that shaking one's head
meant 'yes', particularly when it's meant to convey complete agreement.
But I got used to it and sometimes found myself doing the same thing.

The Indian 'namaste', though normally not used in my state, is a good
substitute for handshaking.


Way too new agey for me. Folks round here have started just bumping elbows.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

There was a dance a while back that involved bumping different parts.
We might do that. Fun at meetings and conferences.







--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:29:34 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

A little more hand washing and such wouldn't hurt. Hands get dirty
during the day.

OCD isn't "a little more hand washing" though, John. It's pathalogical.

Washing your hands after a bus ride or getting home from work or using
the toilet isn't compulsive.

Handshaking is a really weird thing to do.

Only if you're somewhat autistic.

My autism doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely weird. It's
even stranger when your team has 5 people and theirs has 6 and
everyone has to shake. Clumsy and unsanitary.

Bowing is better. It's optocoupled and it can be done in parallel.

Waving is good too.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Gerhard Hoffmann]

Am 19.04.20 um 22:08 schrieb Phil Hobbs:

Way too new agey for me.  Folks round here have started just bumping
elbows.

First they told us they told us to better cough into the elbow
and now that.

Cheers, Gerhard

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:eq3p9f95gmvi28f91gfujsu3f5qo3omv3l@4ax.com:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

U.S. exported millions in masks and ventilators ahead of the
coronavirus crisis- Jan/Feb 2020.

The White House and congressional intelligence committees were
briefed on the scope and threat of the coronavirus in January and
February, but President Donald Trump has not stopped exports of
key medical equipment – a move taken by at least 54 other
countries so far.

The data show how U.S. manufacturers stepped up production and
cleared out inventory to supply protective medical equipment to
China for weeks, even as the threat of the coronavirus became
clear.

Can we say rank incompetence?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-ex
ports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

We have a giant surplus of ventlators, which may kill people
anyhow, and for the general public cosmetic masks aren't very
helpful.


I was walking across the freeway to my car yesterday, over this,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/je20gggpwmel0jp/Spiral_Park.jpg?raw=1

walking up on the right side without a mask. I passed a woman
walking down, wearing a cloth mask. When she saw me, she leaped to
the side of the path and hunched down against the opposite
sidewall until I passed.

I hope her PTSD doesn't disable her for too many years.

Maybe she just knew who you are and that is where the PTSD came
from.

It was your aura.