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Robert Baer
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bitrex wrote:
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bitrex
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On 11/12/19 2:23 AM, bitrex wrote:
Well BMW coasts on "Made in Germany" engineering but y'know. The Germans
have made their fair share of junk
Well BMW coasts on "Made in Germany" engineering but y'know. The Germans
have made their fair share of junk
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bitrex
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On 11/11/19 9:31 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
MB is sort of like the BMW of amps, over-complicated, overpriced, pain
to work on, coasting on name and "Made in America" lot at this point.
I've read Randall Smith is kind of a sleaze.
MB is sort of like the BMW of amps, over-complicated, overpriced, pain
to work on, coasting on name and "Made in America" lot at this point.
I've read Randall Smith is kind of a sleaze.
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Phil Allison
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Robert Baer wrote:
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** You can say that again.
My colleague Rod Elliot and I spent countless hours trying to undo some of the lies that were being accepted as fact.
Bu found we were basically " pissin' in the wind here in this country - Australia.
We banned iron core tranny wall warts too.
All insane Green Party nonsense.
..... Phil
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** You can say that again.
My colleague Rod Elliot and I spent countless hours trying to undo some of the lies that were being accepted as fact.
Bu found we were basically " pissin' in the wind here in this country - Australia.
We banned iron core tranny wall warts too.
All insane Green Party nonsense.
..... Phil
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Tom Gardner
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On 12/11/19 03:49, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Don't forget kerosene, which saved a lot of whales
Don't forget kerosene, which saved a lot of whales
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John Robertson
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On 2019/11/11 10:10 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:
I believe you meant (R.A.H.'s) TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As
A Free Lunch - from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
John :-#)#
I believe you meant (R.A.H.'s) TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As
A Free Lunch - from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
John :-#)#
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bitrex
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On 11/12/19 3:10 AM, John Robertson wrote:
TMIAHM isn't even good as a work of pulp fiction, it's just unreadable
dreck for anyone over the age of 12. like the majority of Heinlein's
oeuvre. what a SNOOZE FEST
TMIAHM isn't even good as a work of pulp fiction, it's just unreadable
dreck for anyone over the age of 12. like the majority of Heinlein's
oeuvre. what a SNOOZE FEST
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bitrex
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On 11/12/19 3:35 AM, bitrex wrote:
sci fi literature in the 60s and 70s was run by a cabal of hacks
sci fi literature in the 60s and 70s was run by a cabal of hacks
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Martin Brown
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On 11/11/2019 15:59, amdx wrote:
To be fair to them shorter lifetime bulbs give a higher luminous
efficacy. You can't blame them for optimising their profits - that is
after all exactly what companies are in business to do.
The ultimate being photoflood bulbs which were good for 3 or 100 hours
use if you were lucky. They could sometimes fail on first switch on too.
It is what you get in a "free market" when the manufacturers are allowed
to secretly conspire against consumers.
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Regards,
Martin Brown
To be fair to them shorter lifetime bulbs give a higher luminous
efficacy. You can't blame them for optimising their profits - that is
after all exactly what companies are in business to do.
The ultimate being photoflood bulbs which were good for 3 or 100 hours
use if you were lucky. They could sometimes fail on first switch on too.
It is what you get in a "free market" when the manufacturers are allowed
to secretly conspire against consumers.
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Regards,
Martin Brown
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Phil Allison
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Martin Brown wrote:
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** To be fair, those selling long life bulbs were pulling a scam and the so called "cartel" was formed to stop them and give honest makers fair go.
Funny thing is, 2500hr bulbs sell poorly cos the public know they give weak looking light.
The sale price of bulbs fell in real terms over time and settled so that typical bulbs use 5 times more in energy bill that the purchase price.
> You can't blame them for optimising their profits
** Max profit would occur when bulb cost and the life time power bill were equal. Which has never been the case.
The "bitrex" troll is so deluded he thinks he outsmarts others.
Total narcissist and a compete asshole.
Peeeeeukeee...
..... Phil
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** To be fair, those selling long life bulbs were pulling a scam and the so called "cartel" was formed to stop them and give honest makers fair go.
Funny thing is, 2500hr bulbs sell poorly cos the public know they give weak looking light.
The sale price of bulbs fell in real terms over time and settled so that typical bulbs use 5 times more in energy bill that the purchase price.
> You can't blame them for optimising their profits
** Max profit would occur when bulb cost and the life time power bill were equal. Which has never been the case.
The "bitrex" troll is so deluded he thinks he outsmarts others.
Total narcissist and a compete asshole.
Peeeeeukeee...
..... Phil
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Bill Sloman
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On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 7:35:55 PM UTC+11, bitrex wrote:
Robert Heinlein's politics did get a bit obtrusive. Quite a few of his contemporaries were even worse, though few were as bad as Jerry Pournelle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle
He was "known for his paleoconservative political views which were sometimes expressed in his fiction".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_MacLeod
makes a welcome change. He went to Glasgow University and does understand left-wing politics, though this isn't all that salient in his books.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Robert Heinlein's politics did get a bit obtrusive. Quite a few of his contemporaries were even worse, though few were as bad as Jerry Pournelle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle
He was "known for his paleoconservative political views which were sometimes expressed in his fiction".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_MacLeod
makes a welcome change. He went to Glasgow University and does understand left-wing politics, though this isn't all that salient in his books.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Tom Gardner
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On 12/11/19 15:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Indeed. Until recently a farm animal's quality was (to a
large extent) determined by the amount of fat on it.
Too simplistic. The cartel didn't want a longer lifetime.
Traditionally cartels employ various underhand tactics to
ensure the cartel's continued existence.
My dining room bulb hasn't been replaced in at least a decade,
and only once that I can remember in 30 years. I still have a
supply of the bulbs that I bought in the mid 80s
There are all sorts of tricks, and poorly misunderstood folklore,
associated with that kind of usage of incandescent bulbs.
I recently picked up an old Fluke DVM for a massive ÂŁ0.99, since
the display was nixie tubes. Naturally it didn't work when turned
on.
Once the body was extracted from its waterproof and squaddie-proof
case, the interior was brightly illuminated by an incandescent
bulb. After removing the shorted NiCd battery pack, everything
sprang back to life.
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:48:49 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/11/19 03:49, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:59:00 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
It was named the Phoebus Cartel.
Phoebus
1. Greek Mythology Apollo, the god of the sun.
2. The sun.
"it engaged in large-scale planned obsolescence to generate repeated
sales and maximize profit."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
Mikek
But even so, it was a huge advance from candles and gas lamps.
Don't forget kerosene, which saved a lot of whales
Poor people couldn't afford whale oil, much less beeswax candles. They
could burn a bit of tallow in a dish with a wick, for a few minutes,
if they weren't so starving that they had to eat the tallow, and could
afford a wick.
Indeed. Until recently a farm animal's quality was (to a
large extent) determined by the amount of fat on it.
Too simplistic. The cartel didn't want a longer lifetime.
Traditionally cartels employ various underhand tactics to
ensure the cartel's continued existence.
My dining room bulb hasn't been replaced in at least a decade,
and only once that I can remember in 30 years. I still have a
supply of the bulbs that I bought in the mid 80s
There are all sorts of tricks, and poorly misunderstood folklore,
associated with that kind of usage of incandescent bulbs.
I recently picked up an old Fluke DVM for a massive ÂŁ0.99, since
the display was nixie tubes. Naturally it didn't work when turned
on.
Once the body was extracted from its waterproof and squaddie-proof
case, the interior was brightly illuminated by an incandescent
bulb. After removing the shorted NiCd battery pack, everything
sprang back to life.
Guest
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:48:49 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Poor people couldn't afford whale oil, much less beeswax candles. They
could burn a bit of tallow in a dish with a wick, for a few minutes,
if they weren't so starving that they had to eat the tallow, and could
afford a wick.
The light bulb 1000 hour limit was close to economically optimum, and
when the patents ran out anyone could offer anything that people
wanted.
Even now, in a free market, most incandescent lifetimes are around
1000 hours.
Sometimes I put one incandescent in a string of LEDs when the LEDs
don't dim well. A little real ohms helps.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/11/19 03:49, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:59:00 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
It was named the Phoebus Cartel.
Phoebus
1. Greek Mythology Apollo, the god of the sun.
2. The sun.
"it engaged in large-scale planned obsolescence to generate repeated
sales and maximize profit."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
Mikek
But even so, it was a huge advance from candles and gas lamps.
Don't forget kerosene, which saved a lot of whales
Poor people couldn't afford whale oil, much less beeswax candles. They
could burn a bit of tallow in a dish with a wick, for a few minutes,
if they weren't so starving that they had to eat the tallow, and could
afford a wick.
The light bulb 1000 hour limit was close to economically optimum, and
when the patents ran out anyone could offer anything that people
wanted.
Even now, in a free market, most incandescent lifetimes are around
1000 hours.
Sometimes I put one incandescent in a string of LEDs when the LEDs
don't dim well. A little real ohms helps.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
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Tom Gardner
Guest
On 12/11/19 16:03, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
Easy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrolean_Speck
and also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lardo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancetta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanciale
tirsdag den 12. november 2019 kl. 16.35.41 UTC+1 skrev Tom Gardner:
On 12/11/19 15:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:48:49 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/11/19 03:49, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:59:00 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
It was named the Phoebus Cartel.
Phoebus
1. Greek Mythology Apollo, the god of the sun.
2. The sun.
"it engaged in large-scale planned obsolescence to generate repeated
sales and maximize profit."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
Mikek
But even so, it was a huge advance from candles and gas lamps.
Don't forget kerosene, which saved a lot of whales
Poor people couldn't afford whale oil, much less beeswax candles. They
could burn a bit of tallow in a dish with a wick, for a few minutes,
if they weren't so starving that they had to eat the tallow, and could
afford a wick.
Indeed. Until recently a farm animal's quality was (to a
large extent) determined by the amount of fat on it.
try selling bacon that looks like this today,
https://youtu.be/T-1JDFUhddY?t=240
Easy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrolean_Speck
and also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lardo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancetta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanciale
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bitrex
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On 11/12/19 4:38 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
What the heck! I'm not even in this bulb-efficiency conversation. That
was random...
What the heck! I'm not even in this bulb-efficiency conversation. That
was random...
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Lasse Langwadt Christense
Guest
tirsdag den 12. november 2019 kl. 16.35.41 UTC+1 skrev Tom Gardner:
try selling bacon that looks like this today,
https://youtu.be/T-1JDFUhddY?t=240
On 12/11/19 15:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:48:49 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/11/19 03:49, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:59:00 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
It was named the Phoebus Cartel.
Phoebus
1. Greek Mythology Apollo, the god of the sun.
2. The sun.
"it engaged in large-scale planned obsolescence to generate repeated
sales and maximize profit."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
Mikek
But even so, it was a huge advance from candles and gas lamps.
Don't forget kerosene, which saved a lot of whales
Poor people couldn't afford whale oil, much less beeswax candles. They
could burn a bit of tallow in a dish with a wick, for a few minutes,
if they weren't so starving that they had to eat the tallow, and could
afford a wick.
Indeed. Until recently a farm animal's quality was (to a
large extent) determined by the amount of fat on it.
try selling bacon that looks like this today,
https://youtu.be/T-1JDFUhddY?t=240
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bitrex
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On 11/12/19 10:51 AM, bitrex wrote:
always a Gary Stu author-insertion) bangs a hot redhead at some point
before everyone starts dying which I thought was kinda cool, but also
reading any of those guys write about sex is also fairly cringe-inducing
for the majority of people who have sexual relations with the opposite
sex regularly I think.
Comet. Comet impact. The main character-dude (always a dude, almost
always a Gary Stu author-insertion) bangs a hot redhead at some point
before everyone starts dying which I thought was kinda cool, but also
reading any of those guys write about sex is also fairly cringe-inducing
for the majority of people who have sexual relations with the opposite
sex regularly I think.
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bitrex
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On 11/12/19 5:19 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
I probably didn't understand all the politics when I first read his
stuff at approximately age 12-13. I was reading authors like Tolkien,
H.G. Wells, Ursula K. Le Guin, and (not same genre) F Scott Fitzgerald
at the time too and a 12 y/o does understand that these are books
written by geniuses at literature. And even Piers Anthony was pretty clever.
And then I think the first Heinlein book I read was Stranger in a
Strange Land and at that time I remember I'd heard it had a bunch of
sex-stuff in it but I don't recall getting turned on by that book at
all. Mostly I recall being confused and bored by it but I had to slog
through because it was on a a summer reading list for English class or
something. I thought there was going to be something sexy in it. What a
rip-off.
Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle were huge hacks too, I read "Lucifer's
Hammer" a few years later it was a book 1/3rd about a comic impact and
2/3rds about a race war as I recall. it was dumb. The most important
things I learned from it were some of the units of the cgs system of
measurement which I feel was already outdated for most astrophysicists
to be using regularly at the time the book was written.
I didn't know what an "International Harvester Travelall" was either I
had to look up in a history book (Internet still not really available at
the time) that it was some kind of antique SUV.
I probably didn't understand all the politics when I first read his
stuff at approximately age 12-13. I was reading authors like Tolkien,
H.G. Wells, Ursula K. Le Guin, and (not same genre) F Scott Fitzgerald
at the time too and a 12 y/o does understand that these are books
written by geniuses at literature. And even Piers Anthony was pretty clever.
And then I think the first Heinlein book I read was Stranger in a
Strange Land and at that time I remember I'd heard it had a bunch of
sex-stuff in it but I don't recall getting turned on by that book at
all. Mostly I recall being confused and bored by it but I had to slog
through because it was on a a summer reading list for English class or
something. I thought there was going to be something sexy in it. What a
rip-off.
Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle were huge hacks too, I read "Lucifer's
Hammer" a few years later it was a book 1/3rd about a comic impact and
2/3rds about a race war as I recall. it was dumb. The most important
things I learned from it were some of the units of the cgs system of
measurement which I feel was already outdated for most astrophysicists
to be using regularly at the time the book was written.
I didn't know what an "International Harvester Travelall" was either I
had to look up in a history book (Internet still not really available at
the time) that it was some kind of antique SUV.
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bitrex
Guest
On 11/12/19 1:03 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
The red ones? seems unlikely they're not THAT bright.
Xenon strobes in daytime, then at night like Phil said a maybe 1000 watt
incandescent run at 250 watts:
<https://powerplantmen.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/radio_tower_lamp.jpg>
The red ones? seems unlikely they're not THAT bright.
Xenon strobes in daytime, then at night like Phil said a maybe 1000 watt
incandescent run at 250 watts:
<https://powerplantmen.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/radio_tower_lamp.jpg>
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Phil Allison
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amdx wrote:
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** Correct - one of which you just dragged up and foisted on us.
> Their seems to be evidence that the cartel did exist,
** The alleged nature of purpose is the myth.
You stupid, lying fuckwit.
** Don't bother - it is all wild conspiracy theory garbage written by some know nothing nut case.
Close relative of yours maybe ?
...... Phil
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** Correct - one of which you just dragged up and foisted on us.
> Their seems to be evidence that the cartel did exist,
** The alleged nature of purpose is the myth.
You stupid, lying fuckwit.
** Don't bother - it is all wild conspiracy theory garbage written by some know nothing nut case.
Close relative of yours maybe ?
...... Phil