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On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 21:07:45 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:
9/6/22, 19:16, Gnatguy:
California has
A week or two back, the power was out for about 4 hours. The 42\"
built-in is set to 0F freezer and 37F refrigerator, and when the
power came back, the freezer temp had risen to 16F and the fridge
was STILL 37F!
Here\'s what I think about that - as long as the freezer remains
well below 32F, AI directs a fan to send some freezer air over to
the fridge side.
This machine actually has dual independent cooling systems,
freezer and fridge, and if either were to fail, I suspect AI would
use the remaining system to manage both sections.
AI? A test and a branch is AI?
Oh, I do back them up, but you ignore the evidence. What everybody else calls
statistics aren\'t statistics for you.
On a sunny day (Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:55:41 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
5e48e352-7948-46d8...@googlegroups.com>:
Oh, I do back them up, but you ignore the evidence. What everybody else calls
statistics aren\'t statistics for you.
No idea what the discussion was about,
but there was this German prof who pointed out to his students that
as the number of storks in some village was the highest
and the number of child birth there was also the highest
that that does NOT prove that children were brought by storks.
So statistics... better know what\'s going on.
The climate crap we are daily forced to swallow that blames climate change on CO2 we produce
is a similar example of abusing numbers.
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:56:41 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:55:41 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
5e48e352-7948-46d8...@googlegroups.com>:
Oh, I do back them up, but you ignore the evidence. What everybody else calls
statistics aren\'t statistics for you.
No idea what the discussion was about,
but there was this German prof who pointed out to his students that
as the number of storks in some village was the highest
and the number of child birth there was also the highest
that that does NOT prove that children were brought by storks.
So statistics... better know what\'s going on.
The climate crap we are daily forced to swallow that blames climate change
on CO2 we produce
is a similar example of abusing numbers.
Only to idiots who don\'t know anything about the science that backs it all up.
It\'s green fanatics who want us all to live in grass huts played by <deep
state..?> ..
Nonsense. Solar cells and wind turbines deliver cheaper electric power than
yo can get by burning fossil carbon. A green society can be just as energy
intensive as one that is powered by burning fossil carbon, provide it invests
enough in grid storage (which isn\'t all that much).\\
Those are basically anti-science - afraid of everything - clueless about technology
puppets of Al Gorism.
Few are as clueless as Jan Panteltje. Al Gore was always a science populariser,
and a good one. His books have lasted well. He\'s no puppet-master.
Jan\'s strings are being pulled by the climate change denial propaganda machine,
but he\'s much too dumb and ignorant to notice - down there with Skybuck
Flying.
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Sep 2022 01:45:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
c59cece8-90ad-4a18...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:56:41 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:55:41 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <5e48e352-7948-46d8...@googlegroups.com>:
Oh, I do back them up, but you ignore the evidence. What everybody else calls
statistics aren\'t statistics for you.
No idea what the discussion was about,
but there was this German prof who pointed out to his students that
as the number of storks in some village was the highest
and the number of child birth there was also the highest
that that does NOT prove that children were brought by storks.
So statistics... better know what\'s going on.
The climate crap we are daily forced to swallow that blames climate change on CO2 we produce
is a similar example of abusing numbers.
Only to idiots who don\'t know anything about the science that backs it all up.
It\'s green fanatics who want us all to live in grass huts played by <deep state..?> ..
Nonsense. Solar cells and wind turbines deliver cheaper electric power than
yo can get by burning fossil carbon. A green society can be just as energy
intensive as one that is powered by burning fossil carbon, provide it invests
enough in grid storage (which isn\'t all that much).\\
Those are basically anti-science - afraid of everything - clueless about technology puppets of Al Gorism.
Few are as clueless as Jan Panteltje. Al Gore was always a science populariser,
and a good one. His books have lasted well. He\'s no puppet-master.
Jan\'s strings are being pulled by the climate change denial propaganda machine,
but he\'s much too dumb and ignorant to notice - down there with Skybuck
Flying.
Its not so simple, sun and wind come and go.
All about sales of ever new - sometimes useless - stuff
https://www.pacificsuntech.com/post/on-puerto-rico-s-forgotten-island-tesla-s-busted-solar-panels-tell-a-cautionary-tale
seems an other storm was there.
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:11:09 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Sep 2022 01:45:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
c59cece8-90ad-4a18...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:56:41 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:55:41 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
5e48e352-7948-46d8...@googlegroups.com>:
Oh, I do back them up, but you ignore the evidence. What everybody else calls
statistics aren\'t statistics for you.
No idea what the discussion was about,
but there was this German prof who pointed out to his students that
as the number of storks in some village was the highest
and the number of child birth there was also the highest
that that does NOT prove that children were brought by storks.
So statistics... better know what\'s going on.
The climate crap we are daily forced to swallow that blames climate change on CO2 we produce
is a similar example of abusing numbers.
Only to idiots who don\'t know anything about the science that backs it all up.
It\'s green fanatics who want us all to live in grass huts played by <deep state..?> ..
Nonsense. Solar cells and wind turbines deliver cheaper electric power than
yo can get by burning fossil carbon. A green society can be just as energy
intensive as one that is powered by burning fossil carbon, provide it invests
enough in grid storage (which isn\'t all that much).\\
Those are basically anti-science - afraid of everything - clueless about technology puppets of Al Gorism.
Few are as clueless as Jan Panteltje. Al Gore was always a science populariser,
and a good one. His books have lasted well. He\'s no puppet-master.
Jan\'s strings are being pulled by the climate change denial propaganda machine,
but he\'s much too dumb and ignorant to notice - down there with Skybuck
Flying.
Its not so simple, sun and wind come and go.
Nobody ever said that it was. But sun does rise predictably every morning, and atmospheric circulation is pretty constant over
the long term.
No real power storage.
Not all that much so far., but we are working on it.
All about sales of ever new - sometimes useless - stuff
https://www.pacificsuntech.com/post/on-puerto-rico-s-forgotten-island-tesla-s-busted-solar-panels-tell-a-cautionary-tale
seems an other storm was there.
Showboats like Elon Musk do seem better at harvesting the initial publicity than they are at keeping the hardware working.
In more industrialized countries we need GW storage and power, and nuclear is the only way to provide that power 24/7.
You can get GigaWatts out of solar cells, if you buy enough of them. About 12% of Australia\'s electricity is generate by solar
cells - about 32 Terawatt.hours last year - that\'s about 3.6 GigaWatt on average.
Nuclear reactors could - in theory - provide that sort of power, but they are hideously expensive and remarkably inflexible.
When climate keeps getting warmer we need aircos 24/7.
It won\'t keep getting warmer if we burn a whole lot less fossil carbon.
We need petrol to be able to run emergency services when electric power goes down, as it will.
Or lots of batteries and pumped storage.
Killing those alternative systems is back to the grasshuts guaranteed.
If you were designing the system it probably would be. Competent engineers would do better.
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Sep 2022 04:35:39 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
693f11ca-a0cb-4577...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:11:09 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Sep 2022 01:45:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
c59cece8-90ad-4a18...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:56:41 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:55:41 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
5e48e352-7948-46d8...@googlegroups.com>:
Oh, I do back them up, but you ignore the evidence. What everybody else calls
statistics aren\'t statistics for you.
No idea what the discussion was about,
but there was this German prof who pointed out to his students that
as the number of storks in some village was the highest
and the number of child birth there was also the highest
that that does NOT prove that children were brought by storks.
So statistics... better know what\'s going on.
The climate crap we are daily forced to swallow that blames climate change on CO2 we produce
is a similar example of abusing numbers.
Only to idiots who don\'t know anything about the science that backs it all up.
It\'s green fanatics who want us all to live in grass huts played by <deep state..?> ..
Nonsense. Solar cells and wind turbines deliver cheaper electric power than
yo can get by burning fossil carbon. A green society can be just as energy
intensive as one that is powered by burning fossil carbon, provide it invests
enough in grid storage (which isn\'t all that much).\\
Those are basically anti-science - afraid of everything - clueless about technology puppets of Al Gorism.
Few are as clueless as Jan Panteltje. Al Gore was always a science populariser,
and a good one. His books have lasted well. He\'s no puppet-master.
Jan\'s strings are being pulled by the climate change denial propaganda machine,
but he\'s much too dumb and ignorant to notice - down there with Skybuck
Flying.
Its not so simple, sun and wind come and go.
Nobody ever said that it was. But sun does rise predictably every morning, and atmospheric circulation is pretty constant over
the long term.
No real power storage.
Not all that much so far., but we are working on it.
All about sales of ever new - sometimes useless - stuff
https://www.pacificsuntech.com/post/on-puerto-rico-s-forgotten-island-tesla-s-busted-solar-panels-tell-a-cautionary-tale
seems an other storm was there.
Showboats like Elon Musk do seem better at harvesting the initial publicity than they are at keeping the hardware working.
In more industrialized countries we need GW storage and power, and nuclear is the only way to provide that power 24/7.
You can get GigaWatts out of solar cells, if you buy enough of them. About 12% of Australia\'s electricity is generate by solar
cells - about 32 Terawatt.hours last year - that\'s about 3.6 GigaWatt on average.
Nuclear reactors could - in theory - provide that sort of power, but they are hideously expensive and remarkably inflexible.
When climate keeps getting warmer we need aircos 24/7.
It won\'t keep getting warmer if we burn a whole lot less fossil carbon.
We need petrol to be able to run emergency services when electric power goes down, as it will.
Or lots of batteries and pumped storage.
Killing those alternative systems is back to the grasshuts guaranteed.
If you were designing the system it probably would be. Competent engineers would do better.
You seem to get more and more into personal attacks.
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:56:41 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje
wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:55:41 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
5e48e352-7948-46d8...@googlegroups.com>:
Oh, I do back them up, but you ignore the evidence. What
everybody else calls statistics aren\'t statistics for you.
No idea what the discussion was about, but there was this German
prof who pointed out to his students that as the number of storks
in some village was the highest and the number of child birth there
was also the highest that that does NOT prove that children were
brought by storks.
So statistics... better know what\'s going on. The climate crap we
are daily forced to swallow that blames climate change on CO2 we
produce is a similar example of abusing numbers.
Only to idiots who don\'t know anything about the science that backs
it all up.
It\'s green fanatics who want us all to live in grass huts played by
deep state..?> ..
Nonsense. Solar cells and wind turbines deliver cheaper electric
power than yo can get by burning fossil carbon. A green society can
be just as energy intensive as one that is powered by burning fossil
carbon, provide it invests enough in grid storage (which isn\'t all
that much).\\
Those are basically anti-science - afraid of everything - clueless
about technology puppets of Al Gorism.
Few are as clueless as Jan Panteltje. Al Gore was always a science
populariser, and a good one. His books have lasted well. He\'s no
puppet-master.
Jan\'s strings are being pulled by the climate change denial
propaganda machine, but he\'s much too dumb and ignorant to notice -
down there with Skybuck Flying.
On 9/20/22 01:45, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 4:56:41 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:55:41 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <5e48e352-7948-46d8...@googlegroups.com>:
Jan is the guy who said \'I don\'t care about the future. I live now.\'
You aren\'t addressing what he\'s doing.
BTW
I am aware , you have nothing to do with climate science so your reply makes no sense.
On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:51:45 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
climate changes is tautology by Heraclitus
He didn\'t have access to satellite data. Neither do you - it is now available but you can\'t understand it.
BTW
I am aware , you have nothing to do with climate science so your reply makes no sense.
You don\'t have to be an active expert in climate science to post relevant and correct information on the subject.
You are aware of very little and clearly can\'t make sense of most of the stuff you post about, so your opinion on other peoples posts is even less interesting than the rest of your spam. If you had any sense you\'d shut up, but you don\'t and the best we can hope for is that your information provider will eventually cut off your access to the web.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:00:21 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
How about designing something?
I do that from time time, but without a potential application it\'s difficult to stay motivated.
Or just build something?
Same problem.
No electronics these without code...Or write some code?
To do what?
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Sep 2022 06:55:49 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <abbc3740-71c4-4a0b...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:00:21 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
How about designing something?
I do that from time time, but without a potential application it\'s difficult to stay motivated.
Well, MIT just did a passive cooling thing,
On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:23:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:51:45 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
climate changes is tautology by Heraclitus
He didn\'t have access to satellite data. Neither do you - it is now available but you can\'t understand it.
BTW
I am aware , you have nothing to do with climate science so your reply makes no sense.
You don\'t have to be an active expert in climate science to post relevant and correct information on the subject.
You are aware of very little and clearly can\'t make sense of most of the stuff you post about, so your opinion on other peoples posts is even less interesting than the rest of your spam. If you had any sense you\'d shut up, but you don\'t and the best we can hope for is that your information provider will eventually cut off your access to the web.
Hey, you are a TOTALLY DISCREDITED TROLL on SED.
---My volunteer work for the IEEE puts me in contact with universities around Sydney - at least five - but it hasn\'t found me any projects yet, and doesn\'t seem likely to.
are you looking for a job as a writer?
Tautology (logic) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)
In mathematical logic, a tautology (from Greek: ÏÎ±Ï Ïολογία) is a formula or assertion that is true in every possible interpretation. An example is \"x=y or xâ y\". Similarly, \"either the ball is green, or the ball is not green\" is always true, regardless of the colour of the ball.
Climate changes = Tautology, since climate is not static
If you have problems to understand
Climate changes = Tautology
--Climate changes = Tautology
is my phrase, my thesis, always true