Russian demographics...

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:09:33 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
<BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> wrote:

On 10/20/2022 12:26 AM, John Larkin wrote:
[...]
There\'s a good chance the election was stolen, [...]

On Jan 9 a few yahoos entered an unguarded building and took selfies.
Reread the First Amendment as regards the rest.


O-M-G!! JL\'s delusions fully exposed. I hadn\'t fully realized how bad
they were.

Insults are cheap, and worth it.

The giant crowd was clearly within their 1st Amendment rights. Read
the Constitution. The violence level was modest for such a large
gathering, and capital building security was incompetant.

National Guard troops could have helped maintain order, but didn\'t. I
wonder why.

BLM was far worse.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 2:19:36 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:09:33 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
BobEng...@comcast.net> wrote:
On 10/20/2022 12:26 AM, John Larkin wrote:
[...]
There\'s a good chance the election was stolen, [...]

Total rubbish.

On Jan 9 a few yahoos entered an unguarded building and took selfies.
Reread the First Amendment as regards the rest.

O-M-G!! JL\'s delusions fully exposed. I hadn\'t fully realized how bad they were.

Insults are cheap, and worth it.

Sadly it is a factual, if unflattering, observation.

> The giant crowd was clearly within their 1st Amendment rights.

There\'s nothing in the First Amendment that justifies breaking and entering

> Read the Constitution. The violence level was modest for such a large gathering, and capital building security was incompetent.

Even a large gathering hasn\'t got any right to be violent.

The Capitol Building security was overwhelmed, When conspirators organise a large scale building invasion, you can\'t call the outnumbered security people incompetent. They did protect the elected representatives, which was what they were there to do.

> National Guard troops could have helped maintain order, but didn\'t. I wonder why.

They weren\'t given enough advance warning to get there in time to do any good. There have been suggestions that there were early warning about scale of the demonstration, and it would be interesting to learn who chose not to take them seriously.

> BLM was far worse.

Black Lives Matter wasn\'t trying to undo the results of an election, which is treason.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[whit3rd]

On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 8:12:16 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:02:52 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:31:42 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 22:46:52 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:26:17 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

[about Trump]

He was right about building the wall. If we shut off the fentanyl and
meth flow, Mexico would be paying for the wall.

Good police work finds tunnels under the Rio Grande... actually, dozens going back years

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/us/drug-smuggling-tunnel-trnd/index.html

So, how is \'\'the wall\' going to impede that? You\'re dreaming of some kind of impenetrable
barrier, but... in reality, the wall was never that.

No border is perfect. But if we restrict the flow of lethal drugs,
even by as little as 2:1, it would save tens of thousands of lives a
year and millions of ER visits. Isn\'t that worth doing?

That goal, and \'the wall\', do not make a problem/solution pair.

Crazy. Of course tight border control, which includes a wall, will
reduce the avaibility of dangerous drugs.

No, realistic.

No, it is NOT worth doing, because it won\'t give the \"2:1\" result in
any foreseeable future.

I said \"at least\". A serious effort to enforce existing drug and
immigration laws would do a lot better than 2:1.

Nonsense. We DO enforce existing laws.

A wall and better enforcement would certainly cut off most of the
illegal immigrant flow at the border.

A fantasy.

Immigration contributes to depressed wages and unemployment and
housing shortages and crime...

You seem to write good English, for someone whose native language is an Algonquian dialect.

But, you don\'t understand wages, unemployment, housing, or crime. A wall
would still leave our problems in those areas, as well as drug smuggling.

 

[bitrex]

On 10/19/2022 6:28 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:23:19 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

Russians really can\'t just go anywhere they want. Almost nobody wants them living in their country. Every country whose name ends in \"-stan\" hates Russians, and for good reason.

Estonians seem like very nice people. They don\'t like Russia either.

I\'ve worked for Estonians before and at least in my small sample size
they\'ve been excellent clients.

 

[bitrex]

On 10/22/2022 11:19 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:09:33 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> wrote:

On 10/20/2022 12:26 AM, John Larkin wrote:
[...]
There\'s a good chance the election was stolen, [...]

On Jan 9 a few yahoos entered an unguarded building and took selfies.
Reread the First Amendment as regards the rest.


O-M-G!! JL\'s delusions fully exposed. I hadn\'t fully realized how bad
they were.

Insults are cheap, and worth it.

The giant crowd was clearly within their 1st Amendment rights. Read
the Constitution. The violence level was modest for such a large
gathering, and capital building security was incompetant.

National Guard troops could have helped maintain order, but didn\'t. I
wonder why.

BLM was far worse.

I thought many Americans liked to consider themselves fiercely
independent rebels, when did cheering for the police each time they gun
down some poor (usually unarmed) wretch become an honorable act?

They often they seem to say they pull the trigger because they\'re
\"scared.\" Certainly not the type of law enforcement the (fictional)
Marshall Matt Dillon in e.g. \"Gunsmoke\"

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunsmoke>

had me believe as a child were the respectable kind.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 01:30:35 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 10/22/2022 11:19 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:09:33 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> wrote:

On 10/20/2022 12:26 AM, John Larkin wrote:
[...]
There\'s a good chance the election was stolen, [...]

On Jan 9 a few yahoos entered an unguarded building and took selfies.
Reread the First Amendment as regards the rest.


O-M-G!! JL\'s delusions fully exposed. I hadn\'t fully realized how bad
they were.

Insults are cheap, and worth it.

The giant crowd was clearly within their 1st Amendment rights. Read
the Constitution. The violence level was modest for such a large
gathering, and capital building security was incompetant.

National Guard troops could have helped maintain order, but didn\'t. I
wonder why.

BLM was far worse.


I thought many Americans liked to consider themselves fiercely
independent rebels, when did cheering for the police each time they gun
down some poor (usually unarmed) wretch become an honorable act?

You keep inventing fictional characters to sneer at. Some people enjoy
sneering.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 9:19:54 PM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 01:30:35 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 10/22/2022 11:19 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:09:33 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
BobEng...@comcast.net> wrote:

On 10/20/2022 12:26 AM, John Larkin wrote:
[...]
There\'s a good chance the election was stolen, [...]

On Jan 9 a few yahoos entered an unguarded building and took selfies.
Reread the First Amendment as regards the rest.


O-M-G!! JL\'s delusions fully exposed. I hadn\'t fully realized how bad
they were.

Insults are cheap, and worth it.

The giant crowd was clearly within their 1st Amendment rights. Read
the Constitution. The violence level was modest for such a large
gathering, and capital building security was incompetant.

National Guard troops could have helped maintain order, but didn\'t. I
wonder why.

BLM was far worse.


I thought many Americans liked to consider themselves fiercely
independent rebels, when did cheering for the police each time they gun
down some poor (usually unarmed) wretch become an honorable act?

You keep inventing fictional characters to sneer at. Some people enjoy
sneering.

Black Lives Matter was a reasonable response to an unfortunate characteristic of American police behavior.

There was nothing fictional about the black Americans who ended up dead or the cops who killed them.

A lot of the right wing responses to the movement that showed up here did include a lot of sneering. They came from people whom one would prefer were fictional.

Sadly, they aren\'t.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jim Jackson]

On 2022-10-20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Ed Lee
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
f701d364-fd68-4ba4-b672-8fa4d94a89den@googlegroups.com>:

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
...
If you US critters did not destroy Northstream 1 and 2,

Baseless accusation. What\'s the motive for such US action? Germany already stopped NS2. Killing NS1 only drive up Nat. Gas
price. It\'s not desirable for US.

Follow the money, US profits in a big way from selling gas to the EU

EU has hit russia with sanctions this is Putin revenge. He can sell all
the gas he wants to China, so its not a problem for him.

because they can ask very high prices. So high that they prefer to
sell the stuff to EU and now have a shortage at home for their own
people.

all ruthless criminals..

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

torsdag den 27. oktober 2022 kl. 23.05.32 UTC+2 skrev Jim Jackson:

On 2022-10-20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
f701d364-fd68-4ba4...@googlegroups.com>:

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
...
If you US critters did not destroy Northstream 1 and 2,

Baseless accusation. What\'s the motive for such US action? Germany already stopped NS2. Killing NS1 only drive up Nat. Gas
price. It\'s not desirable for US.

Follow the money, US profits in a big way from selling gas to the EU
EU has hit russia with sanctions this is Putin revenge. He can sell all
the gas he wants to China, so its not a problem for him.

sure he can sell it, but he has no way to get it there. Last year Russia sold 10x more gas to EU than China
The pipeline to China is supposed to reach a capacity of ~20% of what EU used last year by 2025 ...

Russia is currently burning gas because they have to rid of it somehow

 

[Gerhard Hoffmann]

Am 27.10.22 um 23:05 schrieb Jim Jackson:

On 2022-10-20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Ed Lee
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
f701d364-fd68-4ba4-b672-8fa4d94a89den@googlegroups.com>:

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
...
If you US critters did not destroy Northstream 1 and 2,

Baseless accusation. What\'s the motive for such US action? Germany already stopped NS2. Killing NS1 only drive up Nat. Gas
price. It\'s not desirable for US.

Follow the money, US profits in a big way from selling gas to the EU

EU has hit russia with sanctions this is Putin revenge. He can sell all
the gas he wants to China, so its not a problem for him.

Yes, 5 to 10%. Unluckily for him, most pipelines don\'t go to
China. Only one does. The Russians currently burn s lot of
unneeded gas just to keep the wells open.

Gerhard

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Thu, 27 Oct 2022 21:05:25 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
<jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntllskl.c53.jj@iridium.wf32df>:

On 2022-10-20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Ed Lee
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
f701d364-fd68-4ba4-b672-8fa4d94a89den@googlegroups.com>:

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
...
If you US critters did not destroy Northstream 1 and 2,

Baseless accusation. What\'s the motive for such US action? Germany already stopped NS2. Killing NS1 only drive up Nat. Gas
price. It\'s not desirable for US.

Follow the money, US profits in a big way from selling gas to the EU

EU has hit russia with sanctions this is Putin revenge. He can sell all
the gas he wants to China, so its not a problem for him.

because they can ask very high prices. So high that they prefer to
sell the stuff to EU and now have a shortage at home for their own
people.

all ruthless criminals..

US is just the mafia
now preCedenT BuyThem after getting his fifth? covid shot
has indicated he will not exclude the possibility of a first nuclear strike by the US!!
Must be an other brain vain clogged by the vaccine.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10654341/Biden-refuses-rule-strike-use-nuclear-weapons-extreme-circumstances.html

But things are getting [even?] more dangerous as the tree rings predict:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/10/221025201137.htm

gimme shelter!!!

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:35:43 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 27 Oct 2022 21:05:25 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson <j...@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntlls...@iridium.wf32df>:
On 2022-10-20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in <f701d364-fd68-4ba4...@googlegroups.com>:
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

<snip>

But things are getting [even?] more dangerous as the tree rings predict:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/10/221025201137.htm

gimme shelter!!!

Jan Pantelje\'s reading comprehension is down there with Gnatguys. Tree rings don\'t predict anything. They just record what has happened in the past.

Another source of high energy radiation - beyond solar flares - are nova and supernova events in nearby stars.

Within 25 light years, a supernova could cause a mass extinction. Within 325 light years it could dump enough neutrons to turn a lot of N-14 into C-14, which is what the paper was talking about.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney