Russian demographics...

[John Larkin]

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

 

[Ed Lee]

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:23:19 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

100K dead, 300K drafted and 500K left. So, there might be 1M more men than women. However, China has perhaps 50M more m than w. Russia might exchange w for m with China. Perfect partnership without limit.

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

Based on some not very scientific Youtube interviews, a lot of young
russians speak English and like Europe and don\'t approve of killing
Ukrainians. And want to leave. That enriches the remaining population
with Russian-only speakers and haters of the West and especially the
USA.

With an embargo on parts for planes and industries and everything, and
exodus of the smart people, it looks like a giant step backwards,
which will further impoverish and embitter the haters.

What a weird place.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:23:10 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<pd50lh9qio124atvudcrdn8odq1cka3es1@4ax.com>:

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

I dunno if this is true or just US Russia directed shit,

But I did read microsoft just fired 1000 employees:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/10/18/microsoft-reportedly-cuts-nearly-1000-employees-here-are-the-biggest-us-layoffs-this-year/

I just fired Godaddy as website hosting company
Moved all important email addresses elsewhere
Website server and domain auto renewal will be canceled shortly.

A university here found mIcrosoft web hosting is insecure as it has access to all your data,
godaddy moved to microsoft office, no more pop email, what a crap,

microsoft has been sucking users for way too long.

They probably lost DOD too after a warship became paralyzed when their software failed.
Bah, billy did not even make a spacecraft to leave the planet...

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 10/19/2022 19:32, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

Based on some not very scientific Youtube interviews, a lot of young
russians speak English and like Europe and don\'t approve of killing
Ukrainians. And want to leave. That enriches the remaining population
with Russian-only speakers and haters of the West and especially the
USA.

With an embargo on parts for planes and industries and everything, and
exodus of the smart people, it looks like a giant step backwards,
which will further impoverish and embitter the haters.

The embargo is hurting us all but we will have to endure for as long as
necessary. If parts become available anywhere on the planet the Russians
will buy a suitcase or two and smuggle in what they need for years
to come.

What a weird place.

Not that weird really, just a society in pre Magna Carta times.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 20:03:00 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 19:32, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

Based on some not very scientific Youtube interviews, a lot of young
russians speak English and like Europe and don\'t approve of killing
Ukrainians. And want to leave. That enriches the remaining population
with Russian-only speakers and haters of the West and especially the
USA.

With an embargo on parts for planes and industries and everything, and
exodus of the smart people, it looks like a giant step backwards,
which will further impoverish and embitter the haters.

The embargo is hurting us all but we will have to endure for as long as
necessary. If parts become available anywhere on the planet the Russians
will buy a suitcase or two and smuggle in what they need for years
to come.

Some stuff, like airplane parts and semiconductor fab gear and
refinery automation, isn\'t freely available.

What a weird place.


Not that weird really, just a society in pre Magna Carta times.

And stuck there. Sad for them and for the world.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

onsdag den 19. oktober 2022 kl. 18.00.32 UTC+2 skrev Dimiter Popoff:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

maybe not so much in the long term

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

onsdag den 19. oktober 2022 kl. 19.10.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 20:03:00 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 19:32, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

Based on some not very scientific Youtube interviews, a lot of young
russians speak English and like Europe and don\'t approve of killing
Ukrainians. And want to leave. That enriches the remaining population
with Russian-only speakers and haters of the West and especially the
USA.

With an embargo on parts for planes and industries and everything, and
exodus of the smart people, it looks like a giant step backwards,
which will further impoverish and embitter the haters.

The embargo is hurting us all but we will have to endure for as long as
necessary. If parts become available anywhere on the planet the Russians
will buy a suitcase or two and smuggle in what they need for years
to come.
Some stuff, like airplane parts and semiconductor fab gear and
refinery automation, isn\'t freely available.


What a weird place.


Not that weird really, just a society in pre Magna Carta times.

And stuck there. Sad for them and for the world.

and maybe even worse, those with smarts and drive can/will find a way to leave
so those left are even less capable or willing to change things for the better

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 10/19/2022 20:21, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

onsdag den 19. oktober 2022 kl. 19.10.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 20:03:00 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 19:32, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

Based on some not very scientific Youtube interviews, a lot of young
russians speak English and like Europe and don\'t approve of killing
Ukrainians. And want to leave. That enriches the remaining population
with Russian-only speakers and haters of the West and especially the
USA.

With an embargo on parts for planes and industries and everything, and
exodus of the smart people, it looks like a giant step backwards,
which will further impoverish and embitter the haters.

The embargo is hurting us all but we will have to endure for as long as
necessary. If parts become available anywhere on the planet the Russians
will buy a suitcase or two and smuggle in what they need for years
to come.
Some stuff, like airplane parts and semiconductor fab gear and
refinery automation, isn\'t freely available.


What a weird place.


Not that weird really, just a society in pre Magna Carta times.

And stuck there. Sad for them and for the world.

and maybe even worse, those with smarts and drive can/will find a way to leave
so those left are even less capable or willing to change things for the better

This is exactly the purpose of the Kremlin warlords, to let the steam
out so the kettle will not boil over. They don\'t even think of anything
else.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:23:19 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

Russians really can\'t just go anywhere they want. Almost nobody wants them living in their country. Every country whose name ends in \"-stan\" hates Russians, and for good reason.

Looks like Kazakhstan is just a way to points south, Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan, who are probably looking to fleece them. Then of course there\'s no love of Russians in Turkey. The whole world hates Russia and Russians.

Here\'s an article written for adults:

Russian Draft Dodgers Find a Mixed Reception in Central Asia
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/88202

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 20:35:07 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 20:21, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
onsdag den 19. oktober 2022 kl. 19.10.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 20:03:00 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 19:32, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

Based on some not very scientific Youtube interviews, a lot of young
russians speak English and like Europe and don\'t approve of killing
Ukrainians. And want to leave. That enriches the remaining population
with Russian-only speakers and haters of the West and especially the
USA.

With an embargo on parts for planes and industries and everything, and
exodus of the smart people, it looks like a giant step backwards,
which will further impoverish and embitter the haters.

The embargo is hurting us all but we will have to endure for as long as
necessary. If parts become available anywhere on the planet the Russians
will buy a suitcase or two and smuggle in what they need for years
to come.
Some stuff, like airplane parts and semiconductor fab gear and
refinery automation, isn\'t freely available.


What a weird place.


Not that weird really, just a society in pre Magna Carta times.

And stuck there. Sad for them and for the world.

and maybe even worse, those with smarts and drive can/will find a way to leave
so those left are even less capable or willing to change things for the better

This is exactly the purpose of the Kremlin warlords, to let the steam
out so the kettle will not boil over. They don\'t even think of anything
else.

Do the thugs WANT the talent to leave? Probably so.

Stone age is thataway ====>

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

My next-door neighbor is a Bulgarian and his wife is Romanian. Their
common language is English. She works for google and he works for
apple and they make a fortune.

We are having pastry wars. A big plate keeps going door to door with
fresh-baked stuff.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 16:57:12 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:23:10 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
pd50lh9qio124atvudcrdn8odq1cka3es1@4ax.com>:

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

I dunno if this is true or just US Russia directed shit,

Does Putin actually work for Biden? I suspected that.

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 10/19/2022 23:43, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 20:35:07 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 20:21, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
onsdag den 19. oktober 2022 kl. 19.10.02 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 20:03:00 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 19:32, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:00:23 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 10/19/2022 18:23, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.


This is what Russian regimes do to survive. They did that during
the collapse of the Soviet block, opened up the borders and all the
\"troublemakers\" - smarter people who could do more just immigrated.
The KGB mafia had then only to deal with the average population
(this was/is happening in Bulgaria, too - so I have observed it
directly), a lot easier to do. Falling behind has never been an
issue for them, all they want is to maintain control over the
society - be it a technological one or an ancient Egyptian one.

Not a bad deal for the civilized world - they got most of the
most useful part of the East block population. Not all they got
of course but the deal was good.

Based on some not very scientific Youtube interviews, a lot of young
russians speak English and like Europe and don\'t approve of killing
Ukrainians. And want to leave. That enriches the remaining population
with Russian-only speakers and haters of the West and especially the
USA.

With an embargo on parts for planes and industries and everything, and
exodus of the smart people, it looks like a giant step backwards,
which will further impoverish and embitter the haters.

The embargo is hurting us all but we will have to endure for as long as
necessary. If parts become available anywhere on the planet the Russians
will buy a suitcase or two and smuggle in what they need for years
to come.
Some stuff, like airplane parts and semiconductor fab gear and
refinery automation, isn\'t freely available.


What a weird place.


Not that weird really, just a society in pre Magna Carta times.

And stuck there. Sad for them and for the world.

and maybe even worse, those with smarts and drive can/will find a way to leave
so those left are even less capable or willing to change things for the better

This is exactly the purpose of the Kremlin warlords, to let the steam
out so the kettle will not boil over. They don\'t even think of anything
else.

Do the thugs WANT the talent to leave? Probably so.

Stone age is thataway ====

They are perfectly fine with the stone age as long as they are
undisturbed. In fact they have no thoughts at all about all that.
Once the stone age kicks in things may change of course, they won\'t
be the toughest around but they just seize the moment, while it lasts.

 

[Ed Lee]

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 1:50:10 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 16:57:12 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:23:10 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
pd50lh9qio124atvu...@4ax.com>:

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

I dunno if this is true or just US Russia directed shit,
Does Putin actually work for Biden? I suspected that.

No, Putin works for Trump\'s election.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:23:19 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

Russians really can\'t just go anywhere they want. Almost nobody wants them living in their country. Every country whose name ends in \"-stan\" hates Russians, and for good reason.

Estonians seem like very nice people. They don\'t like Russia either.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:49:50 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
<ulo0lhthg2t0u3i9r7e67ieqsdmdqgl070@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 16:57:12 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:23:10 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
pd50lh9qio124atvudcrdn8odq1cka3es1@4ax.com>:

https://dnyuz.com/2022/10/19/where-have-all-the-men-in-moscow-gone/

If the men leave, where will babies come from? I\'d expect the women to
follow.

And if the smart men leave, who will design electronics?

Long term, this will further dumb down the Russian population.

I dunno if this is true or just US Russia directed shit,

Does Putin actually work for Biden? I suspected that.

That thought had crossed my mind as all this happened after the 2 met.
But look at Putins history, he would not betray Russia
More likely Putin mentioned to Biden what the limit of his tolerance
was related to Donbass and nukes and other weapons on his borders, and Biden then decided
to cross that line so he could start what he left in Afghanistan:
murdering people to make money.

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:26:17 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 21:05:30 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:38:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

You are avoiding the part about his being right.

Not about climate pessimism, not about Mexico paying for the wall, not about hydroxychloroquine...
not, apparently, about \"the steal\" , nor about peaceful nature of the January 6 crowd.

He was right about building the wall. If we shut off the fentanyl and
meth flow, Mexico would be paying for the wall.

Good police work finds tunnels under the Rio Grande... actually, dozens going back years

<https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/us/drug-smuggling-tunnel-trnd/index.html>

So, how is \'\'the wall\' going to impede that? You\'re dreaming of some kind of impenetrable
barrier, but... in reality, the wall was never that.

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 10:40:58 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

>...look at Putins history, he would not betray Russia

Does history have a meaning when Putin controls the press, suppresses
public discourse, proposes falsities faster than even the Donald...

His liberators are welcomed to Ukraine... with fireworks. Very loud, very close fireworks.