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Brent Locher
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On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:47:58 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
Clearly (although not usually articulated) all societies require some degree of socialism.... the military, road construction, post office etc. So, yes , to a degree every functioning society has a significant element of \"socialism\" . At the extreme end of socialism is communism and all the bad things....all the coercion all the mind control and all of the problems of a strong government extending punishments to the bad people or excluding bad people from normal society. under strong socialism it becomes harder and harder to be a \"bad\" person and make a living because you cannot just hang a shingle and work. In strong socialistic governments eventually \"good \" citizens get labeled as \"bad\" people and the punishments that can be handed out are real because the socialistic government takes away opportunity for people to just work and make a living.
If you cannot see how our western societies are punishing people for their thoughts about various things, in ways that are not historically consistent with western ideals, then you are blind.....period. And the more socialistic you go the more coercive the government will become.
> The group stands or falls on the quality of the posts. Rubbish politics and self-deceiving electronics both damage it.
For an un-moderated group such as this all that matters is survival. This is a rare breed where it survives and continues to have a large group of posters. Of course I can infer that your politics are **not** rubbish and that your political postings actually brings value to this electronics group , where-as, everyone else\'s postings on politics is just dragging the group through the mud. Bill, you are not as logical and reasonable as you think you are....Or rather your postings aren\'t.
> I\'m less appreciative of your contributions. I\'m glad that you do find value in some of the stuff I post. I\'m not altogether surprised that some of it goes over your head, or that you comfort yourself with the idea that it wouldn\'t have been helpful even if you were able to follow it.
Again, Bill, your lack of reason and lack of self awareness shine through...... Of course you are appreciative of my contributions, and CD\'s contributions and every other person\'s contributions with who you disagree. Without these \"contributions\" to the group, you would not have a springboard to launch off into a post that (in your mind) showcases your intellectual prowess and your ---cough -- cough--- thoroughly reasonable mind.
I try not to judge people based on their internet postings. I suspect I would enjoy interacting with most of the posters here on a personal level even if I disagree with their politics.
As an aside I have watched many Linus Torvalds interviews....he took two years off to get \"counseling\" because too many people on the Linux team( the lesser contributors) said he was a creep. 5 or so years ago he stated that getting your point across on the internet required him to essentially be a creep and he did not apologize for it.....But now he finally agreed that he needed counseling and stepped down for the moment. Of course, even Linus Torvalds had to submit to the dictators on the left because he knows that (even though his mind and work was the essential foundation for all of Linux) he will be tossed aside (he is too inter tangled with business now) if he does not say \"Im sorry\". The quality of his product is now trumped by political correctness.....
Clearly (although not usually articulated) all societies require some degree of socialism.... the military, road construction, post office etc. So, yes , to a degree every functioning society has a significant element of \"socialism\" . At the extreme end of socialism is communism and all the bad things....all the coercion all the mind control and all of the problems of a strong government extending punishments to the bad people or excluding bad people from normal society. under strong socialism it becomes harder and harder to be a \"bad\" person and make a living because you cannot just hang a shingle and work. In strong socialistic governments eventually \"good \" citizens get labeled as \"bad\" people and the punishments that can be handed out are real because the socialistic government takes away opportunity for people to just work and make a living.
If you cannot see how our western societies are punishing people for their thoughts about various things, in ways that are not historically consistent with western ideals, then you are blind.....period. And the more socialistic you go the more coercive the government will become.
> The group stands or falls on the quality of the posts. Rubbish politics and self-deceiving electronics both damage it.
For an un-moderated group such as this all that matters is survival. This is a rare breed where it survives and continues to have a large group of posters. Of course I can infer that your politics are **not** rubbish and that your political postings actually brings value to this electronics group , where-as, everyone else\'s postings on politics is just dragging the group through the mud. Bill, you are not as logical and reasonable as you think you are....Or rather your postings aren\'t.
> I\'m less appreciative of your contributions. I\'m glad that you do find value in some of the stuff I post. I\'m not altogether surprised that some of it goes over your head, or that you comfort yourself with the idea that it wouldn\'t have been helpful even if you were able to follow it.
Again, Bill, your lack of reason and lack of self awareness shine through...... Of course you are appreciative of my contributions, and CD\'s contributions and every other person\'s contributions with who you disagree. Without these \"contributions\" to the group, you would not have a springboard to launch off into a post that (in your mind) showcases your intellectual prowess and your ---cough -- cough--- thoroughly reasonable mind.
I try not to judge people based on their internet postings. I suspect I would enjoy interacting with most of the posters here on a personal level even if I disagree with their politics.
As an aside I have watched many Linus Torvalds interviews....he took two years off to get \"counseling\" because too many people on the Linux team( the lesser contributors) said he was a creep. 5 or so years ago he stated that getting your point across on the internet required him to essentially be a creep and he did not apologize for it.....But now he finally agreed that he needed counseling and stepped down for the moment. Of course, even Linus Torvalds had to submit to the dictators on the left because he knows that (even though his mind and work was the essential foundation for all of Linux) he will be tossed aside (he is too inter tangled with business now) if he does not say \"Im sorry\". The quality of his product is now trumped by political correctness.....