Retailers call for GST on overseas sales

[atec77]

On 6/11/2010 8:56 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:

atec77 wrote:

I already have a good compliant unit but a couple of cheapies are needed
for some onsite staff as a fair indication , the good one was $570.00 in
hongkong and costs heaps more here , about 3 times more which still
makes me flinch at the markup

Remember that any meter here that can even be entertained as compliant,
would be sold with a calibration certificate, and that's going to add
~$400 on top of the meter straight off the bat. It actually IS a fair
bit of work to adjust and measure it you know.
You can't always trust a manufacturer's adjustment. On the good gear,
it's rare to find one that's off, but it happens. But that usually ends
up as a chargeable extra where applicable.

On top of that, you're looking at their markup, (likely quite steep),
would would easily triple the price of a moderately priced meter, as
you've found out.

On the other hand, if it's sold *without* a cal certificate and still
has that class of price, then that's an entirely different story.

The complainers are using some sort of meter they bought at tandy or
dicks or somewhere and are so accurate (not) over a number of sites

You'd see that all the time. It's the ones who have the cheapy meters
who whine about the noise, who clearly don't understand how noise works.
Not surprisingly, if you were to give these end users a fully legal
calibrated meter, they *still* wouldn't know what to do with it.

The consultants who do the work, charge an arm and a leg for their
report, because it actually takes a bit of work to put it all together
in a form that not only indicates it *IS* above legal allowances, but
can also be argued in court.

I wasn't involved in that area, but I'd hear it from the consultants
all the time. Residents would whine and carry on about the air
conditioners on the adjacent new shopping centre for ages, meters and
all, and the council would ignore it the whole time.
They eventually get consultants in do do some measurements, present
that report to the council, and magically, noise guards and other
measures would start to be rolled out.

Depending on what you're doing a cheap meter isn't going to cut it, not
only because it can't give you numbers you can trust, it's that the
courts aren't going to accept the numbers you give them. To do that,
you need training, experience as well as good gear.

That, costs money however.
To late , we have to reduce levels so a meter is required or the council

will close the venues , pretty easy to quieten it and our meter will be
calibrated for a reference , and real testing is done by the council and
frankly their consultant has two dicks
Just the simple expedient of adding some natural insect noises and
some absorbing materials is very close , running water helps a lot of
course so it's not rocket science and from my view there are attempts
to close shop , the bullshite flows at times from the complainants and
the consultant who has as I said two dicks and no real idea .

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[Jasen Betts]

On 2010-11-05, kreed <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote:

Then I saw on TV when I returned "Moscow has the highest cost of
living in the world"
Obviously Australia was ignored in that survey, or they just lied to
make us feel better.

possibly measured relative to the average wage?

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[John Tserkezis]

atec77 wrote:

To late , we have to reduce levels so a meter is required or the council
will close the venues , pretty easy to quieten it and our meter will be
calibrated for a reference , and real testing is done by the council and
frankly their consultant has two dicks

Just the simple expedient of adding some natural insect noises and
some absorbing materials is very close , running water helps a lot of
course so it's not rocket science and from my view there are attempts
to close shop , the bullshite flows at times from the complainants and
the consultant who has as I said two dicks and no real idea .

Heard of similar things too.

In shops that are within a shopping centre, the noise measurement is
taken at the doorway. So, normal people traffic will trigger over the
limit.

I suggested placing the noisemakers (music speakers) towards the rear
of the shop, so the clients get their attractive music, but away from
where the readings are taken.

The idea (primarily with cloths shops) is to get the loudest possible
volume of music, while still maintaining legal limits.
If the law is stupid, work with it, not against it. There's no law
that stops you from using creative ideas to maximise what you DO want,
while the *measurement* is minimised.

It's cheating perhaps, but it works, you're legal and your clients are
happy.
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[atec77]

On 9/11/2010 8:23 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:

atec77 wrote:

To late , we have to reduce levels so a meter is required or the council
will close the venues , pretty easy to quieten it and our meter will be
calibrated for a reference , and real testing is done by the council and
frankly their consultant has two dicks

Just the simple expedient of adding some natural insect noises and
some absorbing materials is very close , running water helps a lot of
course so it's not rocket science and from my view there are attempts
to close shop , the bullshite flows at times from the complainants and
the consultant who has as I said two dicks and no real idea .

Heard of similar things too.

In shops that are within a shopping centre, the noise measurement is
taken at the doorway. So, normal people traffic will trigger over the
limit.

I suggested placing the noisemakers (music speakers) towards the rear
of the shop, so the clients get their attractive music, but away from
where the readings are taken.

The idea (primarily with cloths shops) is to get the loudest possible
volume of music, while still maintaining legal limits.
If the law is stupid, work with it, not against it. There's no law
that stops you from using creative ideas to maximise what you DO want,
while the *measurement* is minimised.

It's cheating perhaps, but it works, you're legal and your clients are
happy.
I tried some insect and water noise combines at 85 db , it sounded lower

whilst being legal which is head shacking subjective stuff

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[LuR]

"Don McKenzie" wrote in message news:8jdp5rFiatU1@mid.individual.net...

Retailers call for GST on overseas sales

STRUGGLING retailers want to spoil consumers' post-GFC party and put a tax
on overseas spending.

With new research showing half of all Australians now shop online overseas,
retailers have approached the Federal
Government to wind back the GST threshold on overseas goods from $1000 to
$400 or even abolish the limit altogether.

<snip>

I've saved a fortune buying online and OS. The differences in local and OS
prices is just incredible. Shows how much we get gouged. Fuck the retailers.
They can compete like the rest do out there too. Online.

 

[Rob]

On 11/11/2010 3:26 PM, LuR wrote:

"Don McKenzie" wrote in message news:8jdp5rFiatU1@mid.individual.net...

Retailers call for GST on overseas sales

STRUGGLING retailers want to spoil consumers' post-GFC party and put a
tax on overseas spending.

With new research showing half of all Australians now shop online
overseas, retailers have approached the Federal
Government to wind back the GST threshold on overseas goods from $1000
to $400 or even abolish the limit altogether.

snip

I've saved a fortune buying online and OS. The differences in local and
OS prices is just incredible. Shows how much we get gouged. Fuck the
retailers. They can compete like the rest do out there too. Online.

You will note that the retailers/importers have not passed on that
saving so what do they expect.