Relocating - need advice

Spehro Pefhany · Jul 28, 2005

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:41:58 -0400, the renowned keith
<krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:41:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:09:01 -0400, the renowned keith
krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:51:58 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:28:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 19:28:12 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

AntiriadElectronics wrote...

Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been
asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some
reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me:

San Diego is expensive. It's also well-built-up and crowded, with good
but full freeways, etc. Whether its fabulous weather, etc., is worth
the rest is a function of where you're moving from, and what you like.

The San Diego area is one of the most attractive in North America,
IMHO.

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)

Gee, doesn't Gay Bacon live in the area? No such flimsy butterfly net is
going to catch him! (I've been through that stop and I guess WASPs
weren't on the most wanted list that day ;-).

Nah, he's in Orange County. More than an hour away under best-case I-5
conditions.

"Best case"? IIRC it only took me two hours, by rental bomb, from
SAN to Palm Springs, right by Escondido, including the slowdown for the
"paper check".

It's > 100 miles, and there's bound to be traffic somewhere.

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Tony Williams · Jul 28, 2005

In article <f1gge1tboecr38opf4r3785i4a4hi0d6pq@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

It's > 100 miles, and there's bound to be traffic somewhere.

In the UK these days if I can average 40mph over a
100 mile journey it's a brilliant one. On mixed
roads it will be more like 33mph overall... slower
now than 20 years ago.

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Keith Williams · Jul 28, 2005

In article <4d916d5dfatonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk>,
tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk says...

In article <f1gge1tboecr38opf4r3785i4a4hi0d6pq@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

It's > 100 miles, and there's bound to be traffic somewhere.

Hmm, Mapmaker says 88mi from SanDiego to the Orange Co. Airport. I
thought Palm springs (SAN to PS = 134Mi) was further east than it is.

In the UK these days if I can average 40mph over a
100 mile journey it's a brilliant one. On mixed
roads it will be more like 33mph overall... slower
now than 20 years ago.

If I can't average at least 60mph I'm PO'd. My family lives 1100miles
from here and I'd grow old driving the trip averaging only 40mph. I'm
glad the days of the double-nickel are long gone.

--
Keith

Jim Thompson · Jul 28, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:10:56 +0100, Tony Williams
<tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In article <f1gge1tboecr38opf4r3785i4a4hi0d6pq@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

It's > 100 miles, and there's bound to be traffic somewhere.

In the UK these days if I can average 40mph over a
100 mile journey it's a brilliant one. On mixed
roads it will be more like 33mph overall... slower
now than 20 years ago.

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Spehro Pefhany · Jul 28, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:12:05 -0400, the renowned Keith Williams
<krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <4d916d5dfatonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk>,
tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk says...
In article <f1gge1tboecr38opf4r3785i4a4hi0d6pq@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

It's > 100 miles, and there's bound to be traffic somewhere.

Hmm, Mapmaker says 88mi from SanDiego to the Orange Co. Airport. I
thought Palm springs (SAN to PS = 134Mi) was further east than it is.

Rand McNally (.com) says 102 miles and 1 hour 40 minutes from G*y's
stated address in Buena Park (as was on his erstwhile website) to
Front and Broadway in SD (1 mile off I-5 at Front). I used to live
really close (maybe 10 minutes, practically nextdoor neighbors) to the
starting point, and an hour and a quarter to half from G*y's address
(in the middle of the day or evening) would be my guess.

From Google Earth and my giant Thomas Guide, it looks like the
structure at that address backs onto a noise barrier with a freeway
off-ramp right behind that (from the westbound Artesia Fwy 91 to
Valley View St.). Hmmm... it's got some rather nasty Feng Shui with
the orientation re Oriole.

In the UK these days if I can average 40mph over a
100 mile journey it's a brilliant one. On mixed
roads it will be more like 33mph overall... slower
now than 20 years ago.

If I can't average at least 60mph I'm PO'd. My family lives 1100miles
from here and I'd grow old driving the trip averaging only 40mph. I'm
glad the days of the double-nickel are long gone.

Lots of people around here drive 130-140 (80mph+) when possible, but
traffic conditions are so congested (and there are so many
construction delays) these days it's hard to average really high
speeds except with luck and at off hours (or out of the 3E6-5E6 metro
area). Twenty years ago, rush hours in Toronto were more predictable--
now jams seem to happen at all hours. LA has been like that for
decades. I guess gas isn't really that expensive (yet).

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

John Larkin · Jul 28, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:58:19 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:12:05 -0400, the renowned Keith Williams
krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <4d916d5dfatonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk>,
tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk says...
In article <f1gge1tboecr38opf4r3785i4a4hi0d6pq@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

It's > 100 miles, and there's bound to be traffic somewhere.

Hmm, Mapmaker says 88mi from SanDiego to the Orange Co. Airport. I
thought Palm springs (SAN to PS = 134Mi) was further east than it is.

Rand McNally (.com) says 102 miles and 1 hour 40 minutes from G*y's
stated address in Buena Park (as was on his erstwhile website) to
Front and Broadway in SD (1 mile off I-5 at Front). I used to live
really close (maybe 10 minutes, practically nextdoor neighbors) to the
starting point, and an hour and a quarter to half from G*y's address
(in the middle of the day or evening) would be my guess.

From Google Earth and my giant Thomas Guide, it looks like the
structure at that address backs onto a noise barrier with a freeway
off-ramp right behind that (from the westbound Artesia Fwy 91 to
Valley View St.). Hmmm... it's got some rather nasty Feng Shui with
the orientation re Oriole.

In the UK these days if I can average 40mph over a
100 mile journey it's a brilliant one. On mixed
roads it will be more like 33mph overall... slower
now than 20 years ago.

If I can't average at least 60mph I'm PO'd. My family lives 1100miles
from here and I'd grow old driving the trip averaging only 40mph. I'm
glad the days of the double-nickel are long gone.

Lots of people around here drive 130-140 (80mph+) when possible, but
traffic conditions are so congested (and there are so many
construction delays) these days it's hard to average really high
speeds except with luck and at off hours (or out of the 3E6-5E6 metro
area). Twenty years ago, rush hours in Toronto were more predictable--
now jams seem to happen at all hours. LA has been like that for
decades. I guess gas isn't really that expensive (yet).

I average under 25 mph commuting to work... it takes me almost 10
minutes.

John

Jim Thompson · Jul 28, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:05:49 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

I average under 25 mph commuting to work... it takes me almost 10
minutes.

John

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Roger Hamlett · Jul 28, 2005

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:05:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

I average under 25 mph commuting to work... it takes me almost 10
minutes.

John

My "commute" is about 15 seconds, walking from bedroom to office ;-)

...Jim Thompson
It shows how different the enviroment can be. The same journey for me,

takes the best part of an hour. Funnily enough it is 'jam' that gets in
the way....

Best Wishes

Jim Thompson · Jul 28, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:36:30 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"
<rogerspamignored@ttelmah.demon.co.uk> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:300ie1lb59ibehkl2t8e19sjbthulfg96g@4ax.com...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:05:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

I average under 25 mph commuting to work... it takes me almost 10
minutes.

John

My "commute" is about 15 seconds, walking from bedroom to office ;-)

...Jim Thompson
It shows how different the enviroment can be. The same journey for me,
takes the best part of an hour. Funnily enough it is 'jam' that gets in
the way....

Best Wishes

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

keith · Jul 29, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:58:19 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:12:05 -0400, the renowned Keith Williams
krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <4d916d5dfatonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk>,
tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk says...
In article <f1gge1tboecr38opf4r3785i4a4hi0d6pq@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

It's > 100 miles, and there's bound to be traffic somewhere.

Hmm, Mapmaker says 88mi from SanDiego to the Orange Co. Airport. I
thought Palm springs (SAN to PS = 134Mi) was further east than it is.

Rand McNally (.com) says 102 miles and 1 hour 40 minutes from G*y's
stated address in Buena Park (as was on his erstwhile website) to
Front and Broadway in SD (1 mile off I-5 at Front). I used to live
really close (maybe 10 minutes, practically nextdoor neighbors) to the
starting point, and an hour and a quarter to half from G*y's address
(in the middle of the day or evening) would be my guess.

I'll trust you that you know Gay's abode. Nothing more need be said. ;-)

From Google Earth and my giant Thomas Guide, it looks like the
structure at that address backs onto a noise barrier with a freeway
off-ramp right behind that (from the westbound Artesia Fwy 91 to
Valley View St.). Hmmm... it's got some rather nasty Feng Shui with
the orientation re Oriole.

Ok...

In the UK these days if I can average 40mph over a
100 mile journey it's a brilliant one. On mixed
roads it will be more like 33mph overall... slower
now than 20 years ago.

If I can't average at least 60mph I'm PO'd. My family lives 1100miles
from here and I'd grow old driving the trip averaging only 40mph. I'm
glad the days of the double-nickel are long gone.

Lots of people around here drive 130-140 (80mph+) when possible, but
traffic conditions are so congested (and there are so many
construction delays) these days it's hard to average really high
speeds except with luck and at off hours (or out of the 3E6-5E6 metro
area). Twenty years ago, rush hours in Toronto were more predictable--
now jams seem to happen at all hours.

Toronto (though I enjoyed the wee we spendt there on our 25th) is one of
the reasons we don't cross through Canuckistan on our way home (the others
being Detroit and customs, but...).

LA has been like that for decades. I guess gas isn't really that expensive (yet).

....and the choisce is? These fruits, in the land of nuts, live a hundred
miles from where they work! No thanks! I live far enough form work
(~five miles). ...though I would like to live a *lot* further away.

--
Keith

keith · Jul 29, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:56:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:05:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

I average under 25 mph commuting to work... it takes me almost 10
minutes.

John

My "commute" is about 15 seconds, walking from bedroom to office ;-)

Yes, but you too average far less than 25 mph.

I average >30mph (five miles in less than ten minutes). ...though that
doesn't count toothbrush time.

--
Keith

Carl D. Smith · Jul 30, 2005

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:54:41 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:56:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:05:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

I average under 25 mph commuting to work... it takes me almost 10
minutes.

John

My "commute" is about 15 seconds, walking from bedroom to office ;-)

Yes, but you too average far less than 25 mph.

ROTFLMAO

On my last job, it took about as long to walk across the parking
lot, from my usual parking spot at work to the building, and
through the building to my desk or lab area, as it did to drive
from home to work. But that's how it goes when you are in South
Dakota and live 3 miles from work.

Then I became part of another massive company downsizing, and now
I have no commute.

keith · Jul 30, 2005

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:08:36 +0000, Carl D. Smith wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:54:41 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:56:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:05:49 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[snip]

I average under 25 mph commuting to work... it takes me almost 10
minutes.

John

My "commute" is about 15 seconds, walking from bedroom to office ;-)

Yes, but you too average far less than 25 mph.

ROTFLMAO

On my last job, it took about as long to walk across the parking
lot, from my usual parking spot at work to the building, and
through the building to my desk or lab area, as it did to drive
from home to work. But that's how it goes when you are in South
Dakota and live 3 miles from work.

I live in VT and have ~5mi commute, half highway. Apparently our
parking lot is smaller and I work in the closest building to it. ;-)

Then I became part of another massive company downsizing, and now I have
no commute.

Oh, not good! ...then again, I've done my time.

--
Keith

Don Lancaster · Aug 3, 2005

keith wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 19:28:12 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been
asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some
reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me:

Try New Mexico instead.

Besides the obvious hassles at customs and the language barrier, the
only real drawback is that their truck tires are a different diameter
and spacing, so evrything needs reloaded at the border crossings.

More at http://www.tinaja.com/glib/marcia.pdf

--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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