Relocating - need advice

Jim Thompson · Jul 24, 2005

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:39:18 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:10:19 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

[snip]

I was working part-time (1959-1962) in Building 20 of MIT, taking home
about $20/week and my wife's take-home from EG&G was about $65/week.

I got a job as a technician for the EE dept when I started school (6/70),
connections and all that. I was paid $.20 less than minimum, until they
found that that was illegal, even for a state school. I then got a raise
to $1.60/hr. After I soon got to $.25 above minimum and graduated at the
grand sum of $2.25/hr. ..for 20hrs per week (max when classes were in
session). I was offered more by other departments (and loaned out to
some), but thought the experience in the EE department, and sticking to
one gun, was better. After I graduated, my hiring manager thought so too. ;-)

We did alright, bought a washing machine, a TV set, and a car (1961
Renault Dauphine, new), and had our first daughter in January of my
senior year.

We had a lot of help from the parents.

We didn't. My parents, mother in particular, were all in a snit
because we got married. So we didn't speak again until after the
first granddaughter was born.

My mother held the paper on our
"mobile home" and the wife came home with a car-load of groceries from her
parents. S dropped out of school (Fine Arts at UIUC) to work in a nursing
home cleaning butts, to make a buck to pay the bills. SHe moved up to
making salads in a resteraunt, then to playing games (entertainment
director) with the old-folks in another nursing home.

N worked at Honeywell, Raytheon and EG&G.

We're still together after 34 years. ...best friends, though we're
individual enough to have fun in our own circles too.

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John Larkin · Jul 25, 2005

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:47:52 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

Yeah, but they do have

Boston Cream Pie

shrug> Not Bostow baked scrod (what is that?), yum!

A scrod is a young codfish. Also the punchline of a dirty joke.

Dunkin Donuts

Crap! Other than barely acceptable coffee DD is only a place for cops to
loiter around. ;-)

Much better than Krispy Kreem, in my opinion. They make a decent
latte, but you have to convince them that you actually want it hot.

Fried Clam Rolls

Gack. It's whole-bellies or nutin'.

The Duck Tour.

Of what? CRUD?

They drive you around Old Boston then drive full-tilt into the Charles
River. It was fun.

http://www.bostonducktours.com/pages/duckhistory.html

John

Bob Monsen · Jul 25, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

Boston: Great restaurants, Legal Seafood is one of my favorites but,
indeed, insane drivers, and the snottiest people on the face of the
earth, at least in the city proper.

Typical response when asking driving directions in Boston: "You can't
get there from here..."

They also generally take those 'one way' signs as purely advisory in nature.

Oh, I forgot to mention 'jimmies', iced coffee, mixins, and grinders...

--
Regards,
Bob Monsen

If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is the man who has
so much as to be out of danger?
Thomas Henry Huxley, 1877

Rich Grise · Jul 25, 2005

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:28:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 19:28:12 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

AntiriadElectronics wrote...

Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been
asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some
reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me:

San Diego is expensive. It's also well-built-up and crowded, with good
but full freeways, etc. Whether its fabulous weather, etc., is worth
the rest is a function of where you're moving from, and what you like.

The San Diego area is one of the most attractive in North America,
IMHO.

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

John Larkin · Jul 25, 2005

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:51:58 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:28:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 19:28:12 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

AntiriadElectronics wrote...

Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been
asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some
reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me:

San Diego is expensive. It's also well-built-up and crowded, with good
but full freeways, etc. Whether its fabulous weather, etc., is worth
the rest is a function of where you're moving from, and what you like.

The San Diego area is one of the most attractive in North America,
IMHO.

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

There's a continuous gradation of people in California from the Mexico
border up to Oregon. In the South, they are gorgeous, fit, mindless,
materialistic, and plastic. Up North, they are nice, thoughtful,
sincere, and homely. I live right in the middle.

John

Jim Thompson · Jul 25, 2005

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:34:47 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:51:58 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:28:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
[snip]
The San Diego area is one of the most attractive in North America,
IMHO.

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

There's a continuous gradation of people in California from the Mexico
border up to Oregon. In the South, they are gorgeous, fit, mindless,
materialistic, and plastic. Up North, they are nice, thoughtful,
sincere, and homely. I live right in the middle.

John

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Clifford Heath · Jul 25, 2005

Rich Grise wrote:

There are no ugly people in San Diego.

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand

.

Jim Thompson · Jul 25, 2005

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:46:14 +1000, Clifford Heath
<no@spam.please.net> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
There are no ugly people in San Diego.

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand .

480)460-2350 | |
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Ken Taylor · Jul 25, 2005

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:bcvae1dk5q0e5h5lreir71csaobu4jj226@4ax.com...

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:46:14 +1000, Clifford Heath
no@spam.please.net> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
There are no ugly people in San Diego.

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand .

Ugly women are a uniform distribution ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
There's more where there's more beer - less Darwinism.

Ken

Don Bowey · Jul 25, 2005

On 7/25/05 5:03 PM, in article bcvae1dk5q0e5h5lreir71csaobu4jj226@4ax.com,
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:46:14 +1000, Clifford Heath
no@spam.please.net> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
There are no ugly people in San Diego.

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand .

Ugly women are a uniform distribution ;-)

Not so. The distribution of ugly women is distorted by the non-uniformity
of the distribution of taverns.

Don

JeffM · Jul 26, 2005

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)
Rich Grise

Actually, the checkpoint is on I-15 at Temecula
--and it's pointed the other direction.
It's not to keep ugly people out;
it's to keep good-looking folks in.

Sometimes entire good-looking families make a break for it.
They've had to post signs for motorist to beware:
http://www.telesubjective.org/nonsense/roadsigns/warning/imagepages/warning_running_family.html
http://www.westcoastroads.com/california/images005/i-005_nb_exit_067_03.jpg

Jim Thompson · Jul 26, 2005

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:54:13 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net>
wrote:

On 7/25/05 5:03 PM, in article bcvae1dk5q0e5h5lreir71csaobu4jj226@4ax.com,
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:46:14 +1000, Clifford Heath
no@spam.please.net> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
There are no ugly people in San Diego.

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand .

Ugly women are a uniform distribution ;-)

Not so. The distribution of ugly women is distorted by the non-uniformity
of the distribution of taverns.

Don

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

keith · Jul 26, 2005

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:51:58 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:28:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 19:28:12 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

AntiriadElectronics wrote...

Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been
asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some
reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me:

San Diego is expensive. It's also well-built-up and crowded, with good
but full freeways, etc. Whether its fabulous weather, etc., is worth
the rest is a function of where you're moving from, and what you like.

The San Diego area is one of the most attractive in North America,
IMHO.

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)

Gee, doesn't Gay Bacon live in the area? No such flimsy butterfly net is
going to catch him! (I've been through that stop and I guess WASPs
weren't on the most wanted list that day ;-).

--
Keith

keith · Jul 26, 2005

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:03:15 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:46:14 +1000, Clifford Heath
no@spam.please.net> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
There are no ugly people in San Diego.

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand .

Ugly women are a uniform distribution ;-)

Sure, they have a far more uniform density too.

--
Keith

keith · Jul 26, 2005

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:23:06 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:47:52 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

Yeah, but they do have

Boston Cream Pie

shrug> Not Bostow baked scrod (what is that?), yum!

A scrod is a young codfish. Also the punchline of a dirty joke.

I thought so too, but I'm told by people in the biz that it's any
whitefish that they happen to find that day. ..thus "what is it?".

Dunkin Donuts

Crap! Other than barely acceptable coffee DD is only a place for cops
to loiter around. ;-)

Much better than Krispy Kreem, in my opinion. They make a decent latte,
but you have to convince them that you actually want it hot.

McD's law suit makes any corporate suit skittish. Never been to a KK,
since they don't exist in these parts. I can't imagine that DD has 'em
beat though.

Fried Clam Rolls

Gack. It's whole-bellies or nutin'.

The Duck Tour.

Of what? CRUD?

They drive you around Old Boston then drive full-tilt into the Charles
River. It was fun.

http://www.bostonducktours.com/pages/duckhistory.html

Yep CRUD, as I suspected.

I wuz gogin to go on a Duck Tour of Toronto, but never got around to it.
We took a boat tour of the harbor instead.

--
Keith

Spehro Pefhany · Jul 26, 2005

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:09:01 -0400, the renowned keith
<krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:51:58 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:28:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 19:28:12 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

AntiriadElectronics wrote...

Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been
asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some
reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me:

San Diego is expensive. It's also well-built-up and crowded, with good
but full freeways, etc. Whether its fabulous weather, etc., is worth
the rest is a function of where you're moving from, and what you like.

The San Diego area is one of the most attractive in North America,
IMHO.

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)

Gee, doesn't Gay Bacon live in the area? No such flimsy butterfly net is
going to catch him! (I've been through that stop and I guess WASPs
weren't on the most wanted list that day ;-).

Nah, he's in Orange County. More than an hour away under best-case I-5
conditions.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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Jul 26, 2005

Salary in San Diego is about 20% higher then national average, so about
70K -80K I would guess, new hires are starting around 65K in Los
Angeles in my company. Of course this is just one example and there are
many variables that can change this, the right experience can easily
get you 100K.

(FWIW Real estate is very high and is out of whack with local average
earnings (unless you supplement your income buying and selling real
estate, which many do), plenty of open land but limited building
permits artificially raises prices, a few of my friends sold their
houses and are renting until the bubble bursts as rental fees are quite
reasonable, I don't know it risky either way, few see reasons for
selling since their house price doubles every 3 years, I don't blame
them.)

Rich Grise · Jul 26, 2005

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:46:14 +1000, Clifford Heath wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
There are no ugly people in San Diego.

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand .

Fritz Coleman. (doing "the weather" from LAla land) ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

JeffM · Jul 26, 2005

There are no ugly people in San Diego.
Rich Grise

Who told you that? I assume the info is 2nd hand .
Clifford Heath

Fritz Coleman. (doing "the weather" from LAla land) ;-)
Rich Grise

That's http://www.google.com/search?q=stand-up-comic+Fritz-Coleman

keith · Jul 28, 2005

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:41:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:09:01 -0400, the renowned keith
krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:51:58 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:28:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 19:28:12 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

AntiriadElectronics wrote...

Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been
asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some
reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me:

San Diego is expensive. It's also well-built-up and crowded, with good
but full freeways, etc. Whether its fabulous weather, etc., is worth
the rest is a function of where you're moving from, and what you like.

The San Diego area is one of the most attractive in North America,
IMHO.

There are no ugly people in San Diego. There's a checkpoint on I-5,
where they turn away the ugly people. So, hope you're good-looking! ;-)

Gee, doesn't Gay Bacon live in the area? No such flimsy butterfly net is
going to catch him! (I've been through that stop and I guess WASPs
weren't on the most wanted list that day ;-).

Nah, he's in Orange County. More than an hour away under best-case I-5
conditions.

"Best case"? IIRC it only took me two hours, by rental bomb, from
SAN to Palm Springs, right by Escondido, including the slowdown for the
"paper check".

--
Keith

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