Red Alert on Green Bulbs

[blofelds_cat]

This would be hilarious if they weren't serious!..


Red Alert on Green Bulbs
Roger Franklin, Herald Sun News, 19/1/09


WE'VE all heard those gags about how many people of various sorts and
backgrounds are needed to change a light bulb. No point in repeating
them, especially in this day and age, when eagle-eyed humour police are
forever in pursuit of insensitive and inappropriate jests.

But there is one light bulb joke that remains perfectly safe to tell.
That's because it happens to be true, and gets sillier by the day.

What we're talking about is the plan to replace this nation's
oldfashioned incandescent bulbs with energy-efficient compact
fluorescent ones.

Because the new bulbs contain minute dollops of mercury, the US
Environmental Protection Agency has issued a set of extensive
precautions in case one accidentally breaks.

Ready for a laugh? Well, loosen those jocularity straps, because here
are the guide's official, stepby-step highlights:

EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.

WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.

CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.

IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).

THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.

There are many other precautions American authorities are mandating,
including using strips of electrical tape to collect microscopic
fragments, but you have heard enough to get the gist. No doubt the
planet will thank us for using the ecologically friendly bulbs that are
due to be phased in at the end of the year.

If Mother Earth has a sense of humour, she will probably be chuckling
her head off at what many may see as the worst light bulb joke of all time.

--
rgds,

Pete
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their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

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-media comments

 

[Phil Allison]

"Fran"
blofelds_cat

EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.

WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.

CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.

IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).

THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.

The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.


** Complete bollocks.

The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -

just like a normal fluoro lamp.


Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer.


** BOLLOCKS !!

While the lamp is in use, operation depends on extremely poisonous mercury
vapour filling the tube !!


The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.


** BOLLOCKS.

You WILL breath in the vapour if you break a tube while handling it -
even more so it has just been on.


Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.


** The glass shards will cut the gloves and YOU.

Then poisonous heavy metal phosphors as well as mercury will get into your
blood.

IMBECILE !!!!



Then take a damp
paper towel and mop up any other pieces that may be about. Then I'd
vacuum and dump the content ito the same plastic bag. I'd store the
bag and at a convenient point, I'd take it along with other hazmat
waste (paint, old motor oil, batteries) along to my nearest hazmat
disposal place.


** That is what the expert advice already says.



I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse,


** MASSIVE LIE.

Disposal of several MILLION CFLs per year in regular household waste
dumps is a VERY serious mercury hazard to the local environment and hence
humans.


YOU are one RABID GREEN NAZI NUT CASE !!




..... Phil

 

[Fran]

On Jan 19, 4:59 pm, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

This would be hilarious if they weren't serious!..

I'd say risible rather than hilarious. It's also bogus.



<snip>

What we're talking about is the plan to replace this nation's
oldfashioned incandescent bulbs with energy-efficient compact
fluorescent ones.

Because the new bulbs contain minute dollops of mercury, the US
Environmental Protection Agency has issued a set of extensive
precautions in case one accidentally breaks.

Yes, the US is extremely litigious. Nobody wants a law suit so here's
their pro-forma response for a breakage of a CFL:

EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.

WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.

CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.

IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).

THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.

The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.

Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer. The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.

Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag. Then take a damp
paper towel and mop up any other pieces that may be about. Then I'd
vacuum and dump the content ito the same plastic bag. I'd store the
bag and at a convenient point, I'd take it along with other hazmat
waste (paint, old motor oil, batteries) along to my nearest hazmat
disposal place.

No doubt the
planet will thank us for using the ecologically friendly bulbs that are
due to be phased in at the end of the year.

I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse, especially for
everyone living in the footprint of said plants. If the writer of this
story weren't such an ignorant moron, that tyhought would have
occurred to him. The again, perhaps it did occur to him but he takes
the view "why let reason interfere with a cheap shot at
environmentalism?"

If Mother Earth has a sense of humour, she will probably be chuckling
her head off at what many may see as the worst light bulb joke of all time.

She'd more likely be shaking her head at the arrant reckless stupidity
of this writer and those who quote him as if he were able to shed
light on some matter of public interest.

Fran

 

[Fran]

On Jan 19, 5:39 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

"Fran"
blofelds_cat





EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.

WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.

CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.

IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).

THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.

The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.

**  Complete bollocks.

The u-tube or spiral part is made of  GLASS   -

just like a normal fluoro lamp.

Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer.

**  BOLLOCKS !!

While the lamp is in use,  operation depends on extremely poisonous mercury
vapour filling the tube !!

The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.

**  BOLLOCKS.

You  WILL  breath in the vapour if you break a tube while handling it   -
even more so it has just been on.

||||
The risk to human health from exposure to the very small amounts of
mercury released by CFL breakages is very low (Clear and Berman, 1993.
Available at http://gaia.lbl.gov/btech/papers/33790.pdf). The amount
of mercury likely to be inhaled as a result of being near a broken
CFL, or cleaning one up, is only a fraction of the average daily
dietary mercury intake as identified by the National Health and
Medical Research Council

http://www.nhmrc.gov.au/publications/synopses/d17syn.htm

Some members of the public have expressed concerns about the release
of mercury from broken CFLs. The concentration of mercury vapour
released by a broken CFL, when measured directly above the broken
lamp, can for a brief amount of time exceed international guidelines
for chronic exposure in ambient (outdoor) air. The term 'chronic'
implies that the exposure is continuous over an extended period ie
years. It is not appropriate to use these chronic guideline values
when assessing possible risk from short term exposure.

||||

Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.

** The glass shards will cut the gloves and  YOU.

Then poisonous heavy metal phosphors as well as mercury will get into your
blood.

 IMBECILE  !!!!

Then take a damp
paper towel and mop up any other pieces that may be about. Then I'd
vacuum and dump the content ito the same plastic bag. I'd store the
bag and at a convenient point, I'd take it along with other hazmat
waste (paint, old motor oil, batteries) along to my nearest hazmat
disposal place.

** That is what the expert advice already says.

I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse,

**  MASSIVE   LIE.

Disposal of  several MILLION  CFLs  per year in regular household waste
dumps is a VERY serious mercury hazard to the local environment and hence
humans.

YOU are one  RABID  GREEN  NAZI   NUT  CASE  !!

http://www.environment.gov.au/settlements/energyefficiency/lighting/publications/fs.html#can

|||
In the United States, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
estimated that if all 270 million compact fluorescent lamps sold in
2007 were sent to landfill sites, that this would represent around
0.13 tons, or 0.1% of all U.S. emissions of mercury (around 104 tons)
that year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_fluorescent_lamp

|||

Hmmm

Fran

 

[Clocky]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Fran"
blofelds_cat


EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.

WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a
glass jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments
and put the dust bag in the jar.

CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin.
If not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal
facility and drive straight over.

IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the
garments or linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full
of paper towels by that stage).

THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off
the airconditioning or heating.


The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.


** Complete bollocks.

The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -

just like a normal fluoro lamp.


Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer.


** BOLLOCKS !!

While the lamp is in use, operation depends on extremely poisonous
mercury vapour filling the tube !!


The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.


** BOLLOCKS.

You WILL breath in the vapour if you break a tube while handling it
- even more so it has just been on.


Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.


** The glass shards will cut the gloves and YOU.

Then poisonous heavy metal phosphors as well as mercury will get into
your blood.

IMBECILE !!!!



Then take a damp
paper towel and mop up any other pieces that may be about. Then I'd
vacuum and dump the content ito the same plastic bag. I'd store the
bag and at a convenient point, I'd take it along with other hazmat
waste (paint, old motor oil, batteries) along to my nearest hazmat
disposal place.


** That is what the expert advice already says.



I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse,


** MASSIVE LIE.

Disposal of several MILLION CFLs per year in regular household
waste dumps is a VERY serious mercury hazard to the local environment
and hence humans.


YOU are one RABID GREEN NAZI NUT CASE !!

Don't let the facts get in the way of your tourettes, Phil.

 

[Davo]

blofelds_cat wrote:

This would be hilarious if they weren't serious!..


Red Alert on Green Bulbs
Roger Franklin, Herald Sun News, 19/1/09


WE'VE all heard those gags about how many people of various sorts and
backgrounds are needed to change a light bulb. No point in repeating
them, especially in this day and age, when eagle-eyed humour police are
forever in pursuit of insensitive and inappropriate jests.

But there is one light bulb joke that remains perfectly safe to tell.
That's because it happens to be true, and gets sillier by the day.

What we're talking about is the plan to replace this nation's
oldfashioned incandescent bulbs with energy-efficient compact
fluorescent ones.

Because the new bulbs contain minute dollops of mercury, the US
Environmental Protection Agency has issued a set of extensive
precautions in case one accidentally breaks.

Ready for a laugh? Well, loosen those jocularity straps, because here
are the guide's official, stepby-step highlights:

EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.

WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.

CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.

IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).

THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.

There are many other precautions American authorities are mandating,
including using strips of electrical tape to collect microscopic
fragments, but you have heard enough to get the gist. No doubt the
planet will thank us for using the ecologically friendly bulbs that are
due to be phased in at the end of the year.

If Mother Earth has a sense of humour, she will probably be chuckling
her head off at what many may see as the worst light bulb joke of all time.

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside. I
don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had them
for years already.

 

[Sylvia Else]

Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside. I
don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had them
for years already.

Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.

 

[kreed]

On Jan 19, 4:18 pm, Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 19, 4:59 pm, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

This would be hilarious if they weren't serious!..

I'd say risible rather than hilarious. It's also bogus.

snip

What we're talking about is the plan to replace this nation's
oldfashioned incandescent bulbs with energy-efficient compact
fluorescent ones.

Because the new bulbs contain minute dollops of mercury, the US
Environmental Protection Agency has issued a set of extensive
precautions in case one accidentally breaks.

US -The world;s loony bin. I would simply ignore that PC crap.
Take precautions to avoid cutting yourself, and be careful not to
breathe
the phosphor (white powder)

Dont know about the "broken glass in a plastic bag" bit, I would
prefer newspaper, harder
for it to cut through and fall out.

Yes, the US is extremely litigious. Nobody wants a law suit so here's
their pro-forma response for a breakage of a CFL:



EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.

WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.

CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.

IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).

A large biohazard container would be better, for putting all these
jars, paper towels, clothes, bedding
carpet, underlay, furniture, you could leave it in your front yard to
scare away
burglars and door to door salesman as a bonus !
Dumping the contents of the cat litter box in there will help.

You also forgot the bit about putting aluminium foil around your
balls.

THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.

The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.

Yet to see this type of "plastic" CFL, all i have seen are all glass,
and they all break,
they are just miniature Fluorescent tubes, like have been around for
the last 70 years.
They would heat up, just not as much as an equivalent incandescent
bulb.

There are "food grade" straight fluorescent tubes I have heard of that
have a plastic sleeve,
so as if they break, the fragments are contained and cannot
contaminate exposed foodstuffs
I doubt that these would be cheap

Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer. The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.

Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag. Then take a damp
paper towel and mop up any other pieces that may be about. Then I'd
vacuum and dump the content ito the same plastic bag. I'd store the
bag and at a convenient point, I'd take it along with other hazmat
waste (paint, old motor oil, batteries) along to my nearest hazmat
disposal place.

Plastic bag ? Make sure the glass pieces dont cut through it.
Newspaper, then just chuck it in the bin. Same way we have cleaned up
broken fluro tubes for the last few generations.

No doubt the
planet will thank us for using the ecologically friendly bulbs that are
due to be phased in at the end of the year.

It wont change much.

I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse, especially for
everyone living in the footprint of said plants. If the writer of this
story weren't such an ignorant moron, that tyhought would have
occurred to him. The again, perhaps it did occur to him but he takes
the view  "why let reason interfere with a cheap shot at
environmentalism?"

Most environmentalism of the "man made carbon global warming" AGW

sort, is just bullshit.
Its about power, control and tax revenue raising, typical of the brain
dead, uneducated moronic society that the west has become.
Its the modern version of "flat earth" theory.


Oh dear, We should get rid of all power plants and cars, trucks,
everyone should go back to
using wood stoves, candles, and use steam trains/ horses with carts to
bring everything to you.

Then the cities will be blanketed with dirty smoke and soot
streets full of horse shit, and the countryside stripped bare to
provide all that wood for the stoves.

If oil based medicines and fertilisers disappeared, and we dropped
diesel oil based farm machinery a large portion of the population
would starve to death, and many of the rest would succumb to disease.

If you want to fix this imaginary problem, then commit suicide,
preferably doing a "martin bryant" before you do. There isnt any other
way.

If Mother Earth has a sense of humour, she will probably be chuckling
her head off at what many may see as the worst light bulb joke of all time.

She'd more likely be shaking her head at the arrant reckless stupidity
of this writer and those who quote him as if he were able to shed
light on some matter of public interest.

The original poster has more credibility than the crap you spout.
It would be funny, except that jokes like this in my experience
end up becoming moronic laws that get shoved down our throat.



> Fran

 

[Davo]

Sylvia Else wrote:

Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.

Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.

At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.

 

[F Murtz]

Davo wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around
inside. I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when
we've had them for years already.

Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.

At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
We used to take it to school and rub it onto pennies with our fingers

for ages and turn them into two bobs

 

[Mark Kelepouris]

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:49746994$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Davo wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.

Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.

At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
We used to take it to school and rub it onto pennies with our fingers for
ages and turn them into two bobs

Technologies like the LED will eventually put a stop to this 'on going'
discussion about 'general' lighting. I'm getting bloody sick of it!!
It's not a matter of if, but when.
Their use in traffic lights today, is enough said.
All efforts should continue in that direction.

Mark

 

[Lu R]

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:49746994$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Davo wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.

Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.

At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
We used to take it to school and rub it onto pennies with our fingers for
ages and turn them into two bobs

OMG!! Have you gone mad from mercury poisoning yet?

I recall using a brick to hammer out 2 cent pieces until they were the size
of a 10 cent piece then using them to buy soft drinks from the vending
machine at school..what a rort lol

 

[F Murtz]

Lu R wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:49746994$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Davo wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.
At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
We used to take it to school and rub it onto pennies with our fingers for
ages and turn them into two bobs

OMG!! Have you gone mad from mercury poisoning yet?

I recall using a brick to hammer out 2 cent pieces until they were the size
of a 10 cent piece then using them to buy soft drinks from the vending
machine at school..what a rort lol


And we used to angle grind fibro and according to Trevor wilson I am

dying from lead poisoning from shooting

 

[F Murtz]

F Murtz wrote:

Lu R wrote:
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:49746994$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Davo wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you
look closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling
around inside. I don't see why people are getting so excited about
it when we've had them for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.
At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've
managed to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation
has made mercury pretty much redundant.
We used to take it to school and rub it onto pennies with our fingers
for ages and turn them into two bobs

OMG!! Have you gone mad from mercury poisoning yet?

I recall using a brick to hammer out 2 cent pieces until they were the
size of a 10 cent piece then using them to buy soft drinks from the
vending machine at school..what a rort lol

And we used to angle grind fibro and according to Trevor wilson I am
dying from lead poisoning from shooting
Oops, in danger of ,Trev is so literal.

 

[F Murtz]

F Murtz wrote:

F Murtz wrote:
Lu R wrote:
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:49746994$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Davo wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you
look closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling
around inside. I don't see why people are getting so excited
about it when we've had them for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.
At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've
managed to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation
has made mercury pretty much redundant.
We used to take it to school and rub it onto pennies with our
fingers for ages and turn them into two bobs

OMG!! Have you gone mad from mercury poisoning yet?

I recall using a brick to hammer out 2 cent pieces until they were
the size of a 10 cent piece then using them to buy soft drinks from
the vending machine at school..what a rort lol

And we used to angle grind fibro and according to Trevor wilson I am
dying from lead poisoning from shooting
Oops, in danger of ,Trev is so literal.
Or going mad or something.

 

[Fran]

On Jan 19, 11:14 pm, "Mark Kelepouris" <moarkkeol...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

"F Murtz" <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:49746994$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...





Davo wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.

Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?

Sylvia.

At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
We used to take it to school and rub it onto pennies with our fingers for
ages and turn them into two bobs

Technologies like the LED will eventually put a stop to this 'on going'
discussion about 'general' lighting. I'm getting bloody sick of it!!
It's not a matter of if, but when.
Their use in traffic lights today, is enough said.
All efforts should continue in that direction.

I'm all for that but there are continuing technical problems with
using LEDs to produce white light at the right intensity for reading.

Fran

 

[Fran]

On Jan 19, 9:52 pm, kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse, especially for
everyone living in the footprint of said plants. If the writer of this
story weren't such an ignorant moron, that tyhought would have
occurred to him. The again, perhaps it did occur to him but he takes
the view  "why let reason interfere with a cheap shot at
environmentalism?"

Most environmentalism of the "man made carbon global warming" AGW
sort, is just bullshit.
Its about power, control and tax revenue raising, typical of the brain
dead, uneducated moronic society that the west has become.
Its the modern version of "flat earth" theory.

This was actually the most interesting part of your post. It's a
classic rightwing populist rant that ticks all the boxes that should
be there (taxes, unspecified others wanting "control" and "power"; the
elite are conspiring or ignorant) and then the kicker -- society
falling into ruin, westenern degeneracy -- in this case it is "brain
dead" undecucated and moronic" (and only you, the usenet ranter in a
sea of morons can see it).

Oh dear, We should get rid of all power plants and cars, trucks,
everyone should go back to
using wood stoves, candles, and use steam trains/ horses with carts to
bring everything to you.

Well if society is as bad as you say, then they haven't done us a lot
of good have they? If you're the best we've got, then going back to
hunter gathering couldn't be worse. Maybe when we go back to the way
it was in your golden age we can recover what we lost. When was that
by the way?

Then the cities will be blanketed with dirty smoke and soot
streets full of horse shit, and the countryside stripped bare to
provide all that wood for the stoves.

Gosh ... it sounds dreadful. Why would you want to do that?

If oil based medicines and fertilisers disappeared, and we dropped
diesel oil based farm machinery a large portion of the population
would starve to death, and many of the rest would succumb to disease.

Wow. So pointing out that CFLs are serviceable amounts to a call to
abandon fertilisers and oil-based medicines and diesel-powered farm
machinery?

Are you sure you haven't caught some of that western degeneracy
afflicitng the minds of people to make them moronic?

If you want to fix this imaginary problem, then commit suicide,

What problem?

preferably doing a "martin bryant" before you do.

I see ... murder suicide is the answer you say?

There isnt any other
way.

What a strange chappy you are, but it was useful you explaining about
your fears and where they lead.

Fran

 

[Phil Allison]

"Clocky"


** Get cancer.

Die very painfully .





.... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Davo the CUNT "

Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside. I
don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had them
for years already.

** Who is this " we " - fuckhead.

Never had to use them to replace tens of millions of GLS bulbs at time
before.

FUCKWIT !!




....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Fran is a FUCKING LIAR" "

The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.

** Complete bollocks.

The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -

just like a normal fluoro lamp.

** NO REPLY

COS IT WAS A BIG BLACK LIE !!!

Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer.

** BOLLOCKS !!

While the lamp is in use, operation depends on extremely poisonous mercury
vapour filling the tube !!

** NO REPLY

COS IT WAS A BIG BLACK LIE !!!

The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.

** BOLLOCKS.

You WILL breath in the vapour if you break a tube while handling it -
even more so it has just been on.

** NO REPLY

COS IT WAS A BIG BLACK LIE !!!

Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.

** The glass shards will cut the gloves and YOU.

Then poisonous heavy metal phosphors as well as mercury will get into your
blood.

** NO REPLY

COS IT WAS A BIG BLACK LIE !!!

I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse,

** MASSIVE LIE.

Disposal of several MILLION CFLs per year in regular household waste
dumps is a VERY serious mercury hazard to the local environment and hence
humans.

** NO REPLY

COS IT WAS A BIG BLACK LIE !!!



YOU are one RABID GREEN NAZI NUT CASE !!

Someone ought to stick a knife up you.

And twist it.




....... Phil