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Have you been into a multi story office tower"Davo the CUNT "
Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in
them. If you look closely you can even see a tiny
bead of mercury rolling around inside. I don't see
why people are getting so excited about it when
we've had them for years already.
** Who is this " we " - fuckhead.
Never had to use them to replace tens of millions of
GLS bulbs at time before.
FUCKWIT !!
...... Phil
Karma is a bitch..."Clocky"
** Get cancer.
Die very painfully .
I remember 'borrowing ' a bottle of nitro-benzine which I thought might pepOn Jan 19, 9:27 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
Davo wrote:
Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you
look closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around
inside. I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when
we've had them for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?
Sylvia.
I can remember in high school, they actually had a container of
mercury in science class,
and the kids would put their hands in it to "feel" what it was like.
Very interesting substance.
That's how "dangerous" it was considered to be back then.
Do you EVER thing BEFORE you post?
I can remember in high school, they actually had a container ofDavo wrote:
Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside. I
don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had them
for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?
Sylvia.
Using that logic, we should never have got rid of asbestos in buildingblofelds_cat wrote:
This would be hilarious if they weren't serious!..
Red Alert on Green Bulbs
Roger Franklin, Herald Sun News, 19/1/09
WE'VE all heard those gags about how many people of various sorts and
backgrounds are needed to change a light bulb. No point in repeating
them, especially in this day and age, when eagle-eyed humour police are
forever in pursuit of insensitive and inappropriate jests.
But there is one light bulb joke that remains perfectly safe to tell.
That's because it happens to be true, and gets sillier by the day.
What we're talking about is the plan to replace this nation's
oldfashioned incandescent bulbs with energy-efficient compact
fluorescent ones.
Because the new bulbs contain minute dollops of mercury, the US
Environmental Protection Agency has issued a set of extensive
precautions in case one accidentally breaks.
Ready for a laugh? Well, loosen those jocularity straps, because here
are the guide's official, stepby-step highlights:
EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.
WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.
CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.
IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).
THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.
There are many other precautions American authorities are mandating,
including using strips of electrical tape to collect microscopic
fragments, but you have heard enough to get the gist. No doubt the
planet will thank us for using the ecologically friendly bulbs that are
due to be phased in at the end of the year.
If Mother Earth has a sense of humour, she will probably be chuckling
her head off at what many may see as the worst light bulb joke of all time.
Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside. I
don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had them
for years already.
What would a wedding photographer want buckets of mercury for? OrSylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:
Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?
Sylvia.
At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
On Jan 19, 9:46 pm, Davo <D...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:
Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?
Sylvia.
At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
What would a wedding photographer want buckets of mercury for? Or
are you pretending to be something you're not AGAIN?
mercury is used to intensify photographs
LOL. DAvo uses a Kodak digital camera and a canon pixma IP1000TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 19, 9:46 pm, Davo <D...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Davo wrote:
Normal fluorescent tubes have always had mercury in them. If you look
closely you can even see a tiny bead of mercury rolling around inside.
I don't see why people are getting so excited about it when we've had
them for years already.
Indeed, and was there a great panic whenever we broke clinical
thermometers, or mercury thermometers at school?
Sylvia.
At my workplace we used to have bucketfuls of mercury, but we've managed
to phase it out down to almost zero. Modern instrumentation has made
mercury pretty much redundant.
What would a wedding photographer want buckets of mercury for? Or
are you pretending to be something you're not AGAIN?
mercury is used to intensify photographs
Yes, asbestos and lead were considered safe then too. And Madam Curie diedI can remember in high school, they actually had a container of
mercury in science class,
and the kids would put their hands in it to "feel" what it was like.
That's how "dangerous" it was considered to be back then.
We don't appear to have a legacy of mercury toxicity in those with only"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:32a514db-3703-4b7a-98e7-e690b460d9db@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
I can remember in high school, they actually had a container of
mercury in science class,
and the kids would put their hands in it to "feel" what it was like.
That's how "dangerous" it was considered to be back then.
Yes, asbestos and lead were considered safe then too. And Madam Curie died
of radiation poisoning.
Unfortunately ignorance is NOT always bliss.
MrT.
Plexiglass ...The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.
** Complete bollocks.
The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -
Nope, because it is essentially a polymer.Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.
** The glass shards will cut the gloves and YOU.
No, it isn't.I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse,
** MASSIVE LIE.
Disposal of several MILLION CFLs per year in regular household waste
dumps is a VERY serious mercury hazard to the local environment and
hence
humans.
** NO REPLY
YOU are one RABID GREEN NAZI NUT CASE !!
DAvo is living proof that ignoance CAN be bliss."kreed" <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:32a514db-3703-4b7a-98e7-e690b460d9db@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
I can remember in high school, they actually had a container of
mercury in science class,
and the kids would put their hands in it to "feel" what it was like.
That's how "dangerous" it was considered to be back then.
Yes, asbestos and lead were considered safe then too. And Madam Curie died
of radiation poisoning.
Unfortunately ignorance is NOT always bliss.
Really? How is that different from a celibate liar?"Fran is a FUCKING LIAR" "
Plexiglass ...The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.
** Complete bollocks.
The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -
3 to 5 mg. Some manufacturers are going to 1 mg. Unless the bulb is injust like a normal fluoro lamp.
Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer.
** BOLLOCKS !!
It would be extremely poisonous if one were chronically exposed to it,While the lamp is in use, operation depends on extremely poisonous mercury
vapour filling the tube !!
Not at all if it has not just been on. If it has just been on, thenThe chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.
** BOLLOCKS.
You WILL breath in the vapour if you break a tube while handling it -
even more so it has just been on.
Nope, because it is essentially a polymer. Of course, even plasticsPersonally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.
** The glass shards will cut the gloves and YOU.
And the boogie man will get you too ...Then poisonous heavy metal phosphors as well as mercury will get into your
blood.
I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse,
** MASSIVE LIE.
No, it isn't. It's a fraction of the mercury that would have beenDisposal of several MILLION CFLs per year in regular household waste
dumps is a VERY serious mercury hazard to the local environment and hence
humans.
** NO REPLY
You are Barnaby Joyce and I claim my prize.YOU are one RABID GREEN NAZI NUT CASE !!
Someone ought to stick a knife up you. And twist it.
I wonder could you show where you get the idea that the spiral or tubeOn Jan 20, 1:03 am, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Fran is a FUCKING LIAR" "
Really? How is that different from a celibate liar?
The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.
** Complete bollocks.
The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -
Plexiglass ...
just like a normal fluoro lamp.
Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer.
** BOLLOCKS !!
3 to 5 mg. Some manufacturers are going to 1 mg. Unless the bulb is in
operation at the time it breaks, the mercury is not in gaseous form
but attached to the side of the tube, near the base.
While the lamp is in use, operation depends on extremely poisonous mercury
vapour filling the tube !!
It would be extremely poisonous if one were chronically exposed to it,
but of course, exposure will, at worst, be brief. If the lamp breaks
when it is not in operation, (eg bumped out of the fitting) then the
risk is from physical contact with the skin. If it is operating, then
once should open a window, leave the room, and close the door. Thirty
minutes later, it will have dissipated.
You seem fairly relaxed though about the mercury emissions (and the
other emissions) associated with generating the energy needed to
operate incandescents via burning of coal -- which accounts for about
80% to 90% of Australia's energy load..
The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.
** BOLLOCKS.
You WILL breath in the vapour if you break a tube while handling it -
even more so it has just been on.
Not at all if it has not just been on. If it has just been on, then
see above.
I've been using CFLs (and a long fluoro in the kitchen) for several
years now. Total breakages: zero.
Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.
** The glass shards will cut the gloves and YOU.
Nope, because it is essentially a polymer. Of course, even plastics
can cut you so one should handle with care.
Then poisonous heavy metal phosphors as well as mercury will get into your
blood.
And the boogie man will get you too ...
I imagine if the biosphere could speak it would. Pumping mercury and
radioactive actinides and FPM into the air and the water via the
emissions of coal fired power plants is far worse,
** MASSIVE LIE.
Note: Unrefuted claim
Disposal of several MILLION CFLs per year in regular household waste
dumps is a VERY serious mercury hazard to the local environment and hence
humans.
** NO REPLY
No, it isn't. It's a fraction of the mercury that would have been
released into the open air by coal fired power plants producing the
extra energy to run the incandescents and to produce the much more
short lived incandescents in the firts place.
Of course, there should be a system in place to ensure return of CFLs
to HAZMAT disposal -- a deposit and return to retailer system for in
tact bulbs would be a good exercise in environmental stewardship.
YOU are one RABID GREEN NAZI NUT CASE !!
You are Barnaby Joyce and I claim my prize.
Someone ought to stick a knife up you. And twist it.
This is the second post in sequence in which you've endorsed murder.
Whether you mean it or not, you are clearly disturbed. Seek help.
I should note though that the desire to murder dissenters was very
much a Nazi thing.
Fran
Faith and belief in the new bulbs is greater than the facts.This would be hilarious if they weren't serious!..
Red Alert on Green Bulbs
Roger Franklin, Herald Sun News, 19/1/09
WE'VE all heard those gags about how many people of various sorts and
backgrounds are needed to change a light bulb. No point in repeating
them, especially in this day and age, when eagle-eyed humour police are
forever in pursuit of insensitive and inappropriate jests.
But there is one light bulb joke that remains perfectly safe to tell.
That's because it happens to be true, and gets sillier by the day.
What we're talking about is the plan to replace this nation's
oldfashioned incandescent bulbs with energy-efficient compact
fluorescent ones.
Because the new bulbs contain minute dollops of mercury, the US
Environmental Protection Agency has issued a set of extensive
precautions in case one accidentally breaks.
Ready for a laugh? Well, loosen those jocularity straps, because here
are the guide's official, stepby-step highlights:
EVACUATE the room for 15 minutes, open the windows and turn off all
airconditioning or heating.
WIPE hard surfaces with damp towels, which are to be sealed in a glass
jar. If the bulb breaks over carpet, vacuum up the fragments and put the
dust bag in the jar.
CONTACT your council to see if the jar can go into the rubbish bin. If
not, ask for the location of an approved toxic waste disposal facility
and drive straight over.
IF fragments land on your clothes or bedding, throw away the garments or
linen in another sealed container (the jar will be full of paper towels
by that stage).
THE next few times you vacuum, open the windows again and turn off the
airconditioning or heating.
There are many other precautions American authorities are mandating,
including using strips of electrical tape to collect microscopic
fragments, but you have heard enough to get the gist. No doubt the
planet will thank us for using the ecologically friendly bulbs that are
due to be phased in at the end of the year.
If Mother Earth has a sense of humour, she will probably be chuckling
her head off at what many may see as the worst light bulb joke of all time.
I recall reading it in a general piece on the conversion fromI wonder could you show where you get the idea that the spiral or tube
type cfl is made of plexiglass?
A very few have an other globe like covering over the tube made ofOn Jan 20, 1:55 pm, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Fran wrote:
On Jan 20, 1:03 am, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Fran is a FUCKING LIAR" "
Really? How is that different from a celibate liar?
The fact of the matter is that unlike incandescent bulbs, CFL bulbs
are typically made of a polymer, which is feasible because they don't
heat up. That's why they tend not to break if they are knocked or fall
onto carpet, and if they do they don't shatter.
** Complete bollocks.
The u-tube or spiral part is made of GLASS -
Plexiglass ...
just like a normal fluoro lamp.
Moreover, the amount of mercury in them is tiny and bonded to the
surface od the polymer.
** BOLLOCKS !!
3 to 5 mg. Some manufacturers are going to 1 mg. Unless the bulb is in
operation at the time it breaks, the mercury is not in gaseous form
but attached to the side of the tube, near the base.
While the lamp is in use, operation depends on extremely poisonous mercury
vapour filling the tube !!
It would be extremely poisonous if one were chronically exposed to it,
but of course, exposure will, at worst, be brief. If the lamp breaks
when it is not in operation, (eg bumped out of the fitting) then the
risk is from physical contact with the skin. If it is operating, then
once should open a window, leave the room, and close the door. Thirty
minutes later, it will have dissipated.
You seem fairly relaxed though about the mercury emissions (and the
other emissions) associated with generating the energy needed to
operate incandescents via burning of coal -- which accounts for about
80% to 90% of Australia's energy load..
The chance of accidently ingesting some after
a breakage is utterly trivial.
** BOLLOCKS.
You WILL breath in the vapour if you break a tube while handling it -
even more so it has just been on.
Not at all if it has not just been on. If it has just been on, then
see above.
I've been using CFLs (and a long fluoro in the kitchen) for several
years now. Total breakages: zero.
Personally, I'd simply put on one of those disposable gloves, pick up
all visible pieces, and put them into a plastic bag.
** The glass shards will cut the gloves and YOU.
Nope, because it is essentially a polymer. Of course, even plastics
can cut you so one should handle with care.
I wonder could you show where you get the idea that the spiral or tube
type cfl is made of plexiglass?
I recall reading it in a general piece on the conversion from
incandescents, and the bulbs themselves don't feel cold and glass like
in the way incandescents did.
And really, why would you use glass when you can use a polymer?
More on CFLs
|||
CFLs are lauded by environmentalists because they require far less
electrical power than their incandescent counterparts. A 26-watt CFL
bulb produces the same lumens as a 100-watt incandescent bulb.
Assuming that you keep one of those bulbs aglow for six hours a day,
switching to a CFL will save you 126 kilowatt-hours of electricity per
year, which translates to 170 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions on
average. Now, how many bulbs do you have in your house? Twenty?
Thirty? Replace them all and you could conceivably (assuming six-hour-
a-day use throughout the building) reduce your annual CO2 output by
upward of 2.3 metric tonsabout 10 percent of the average American
household's annual carbon footprint.
...
The irony of CFLs is that they actually reduce overall mercury
emissions in the long run. Despite recent improvements in the
industry's technology, the burning of coal to produce electricity
emits roughly 0.023 milligrams of mercury per kilowatt-hour. Over a
year, then, using a 26-watt CFL in the average American home (where
half of the electricity comes from coal) will result in the emission
of 0.66 milligrams of mercury. For 100-watt incandescent bulbs, which
produce the identical amount of light, the figure is 2.52 milligrams.
Ah, but what if your CFL bulb shatters? First off, don't panic: Unless
you plan on picking up the glass with bare hands and then licking it,
you're almost certainly safe from harm.
Even a broken CFL bulb won't leak too much toxic metal. According to
the EPA, just 6.8 percent of the mercury in a CFL bulbthat's at most
0.34 milligramsis released if it shatters. OSHA's permissible
exposure limit for mercury vapor in the workplace is 0.1 milligrams
per cubic meter, so you'd have to break that bulb in an extremely
cramped space for there to be an appreciable hazard.
http://www.slate.com/id/2183606/pagenum/all/#page_
|||
Fran
They are made of glass.
And then goes on to quote :I wonder could you show where you get the idea that the spiral or tube
type cfl is made of plexiglass?
I recall reading it in a general piece on the conversion from
incandescents, and the bulbs themselves don't feel cold and glass like
in the way incandescents did.
And really, why would you use glass when you can use a polymer?
MrT.Ah, but what if your CFL bulb shatters? First off, don't panic: Unless
you plan on picking up the ***glass*** with bare hands and then licking it,
you're almost certainly safe from harm.