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In article <8lfv6kF2b4U1@mid.individual.net>, rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
(Rod Speed) writes:

One night, someone had a box of cards on the top of the printer.

You could hear the printer cover automatically opening up when it
ran out of paper.

The poor bugger ran to the printer when he heard the cover opening.

Didnt get there in time. The box of cards had months of data on those
cards.
Look on the bright side. The data was still there. (Heck, it was
now everywhere.) A bit of work with the card sorter and everything
was back together again, with nothing lost but time. (If the cards
didn't contain fields on which you could do whatever sorting was
necessary, it was time for a talk with whoever designed the layout.)

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Joe Thompson wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
jmfbahciv wrote

Child,

I'm older than you, fuckwit.

Childhood is determined by more than the calendar.
More puerile shit.
 
Joe Pfeiffer wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Joe Pfeiffer wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
William Hamblen wrote
Rod Speed wrote
jmfbahciv wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Ahem A Rivet's Shot<steveo@eircom.net> wrote
Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

WordPervert was never gunna survive, it always
had a completely fucked user interface.

Surprising then that it was so popular right up until Windows
became ubiquitous. I quite liked WordPerfect's interface.

I have head many laments about WordPerfect's demise.

I heard many laments about the demise of punched cards too.

I had to physically remove the last of the card punches to stop
the dinosaurs continuing to use them.

Why in the world would you want to do that?

Because the support for the hardware ended up being a complete pain in the arse.

You didn't need to get rid of the keypunches, just the card readers.

The card readers werent the problem.

And the key punches are useless without card readers anyway.

There is some remote possility that that was the point.

Nope, the punches are useless without the readers.

Not real good at understanding subtle humor, are you?
Thats not humor, subtle or otherwise, just puerile shit.
 
Charlie Gibbs wrote
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed) writes

One night, someone had a box of cards on the top of the printer.

You could hear the printer cover automatically opening up when it ran out of paper.

The poor bugger ran to the printer when he heard the cover opening.

Didnt get there in time. The box of cards had months of data on those cards.

Look on the bright side. The data was still there.
(Heck, it was now everywhere.) A bit of work
with the card sorter and everything was back
together again, with nothing lost but time.
Nope, there was nothing to sort on.

(If the cards didn't contain fields on which you could do whatever sorting
was necessary, it was time for a talk with whoever designed the layout.)
You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist fellas ?
 
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> writes:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Joe Pfeiffer wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
William Hamblen wrote
Rod Speed wrote
jmfbahciv wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Ahem A Rivet's Shot<steveo@eircom.net> wrote
Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

WordPervert was never gunna survive, it always
had a completely fucked user interface.

Surprising then that it was so popular right up until Windows
became ubiquitous. I quite liked WordPerfect's interface.

I have head many laments about WordPerfect's demise.

I heard many laments about the demise of punched cards too.

I had to physically remove the last of the card punches to stop
the dinosaurs continuing to use them.

Why in the world would you want to do that?

Because the support for the hardware ended up being a complete pain in the arse.

You didn't need to get rid of the keypunches, just the card readers.

The card readers werent the problem.

And the key punches are useless without card readers anyway.

There is some remote possility that that was the point.

Nope, the punches are useless without the readers.

Not real good at understanding subtle humor, are you?

Thats not humor, subtle or otherwise, just puerile shit.

Wow. I thought I'd encountered "dense" before, but this is a whole new
league.
--
As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
 
"Joe Thompson" <spam+@orion-com.com> wrote in message
news:icv4cb$bji$1@xen1.xcski.com...
On 2010-11-29, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe Thompson wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
jmfbahciv wrote

Child,

I'm older than you, fuckwit.

Childhood is determined by more than the calendar.

More puerile shit.

Ah jeez, I know I shouldn't bait somebody with the emotional development
of a nine-year-old, but it's been a stressful week and the opportunity
to just point and laugh was too good to pass up. -- Joe
Joseph I know 9 year olds with more maturity that Mr Speed. Roddles is at
least 5 years younger than you think.....
 
On 2010-11-29, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe Thompson wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
jmfbahciv wrote

Child,

I'm older than you, fuckwit.

Childhood is determined by more than the calendar.

More puerile shit.
Ah jeez, I know I shouldn't bait somebody with the emotional development
of a nine-year-old, but it's been a stressful week and the opportunity
to just point and laugh was too good to pass up. -- Joe
 
Joe Pfeiffer wrote just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.
 
SG1 wrote just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.
 
Joe Thompson wrote just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.
 
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> writes:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.
You use that word a lot. I don' think it means what you think it
means.

OK, I'm done. This is just too easy.
--
As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
 
Joe Pfeiffer wrote just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.
 
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:24:12 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill Leary wrote just the peurile silly shit any 2 year old could leave
for dead.
Pot - Kettle - except in this case the kettle is a modern electric
one.

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C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see
You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
 
Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Ahem A Rivet's Shot
wrote just the peurile silly shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
 
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:48:42 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Wow you can't even read as far as the signature block.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays
C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see
You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
 
Rod Speed wrote:
jmfbahciv wrote
Rod Speed wrote
jmfbahciv wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

WordPervert was never gunna survive, it always
had a completely fucked user interface.

Surprising then that it was so popular right up until Windows
became ubiquitous. I quite liked WordPerfect's interface.

I have head many laments about WordPerfect's demise.

I heard many laments about the demise of punched cards too.

I had to physically remove the last of the card punches to stop the
dinosaurs continuing to use them.

Why in the world would you want to do that?

Because the support for the hardware ended up being a complete pain in the
arse.

With teletypes in spades.

What do teletypes have to do with cards?

The same thing happened with paper tape.

We eventually ended up with the ludicrous situation where a very
senior support person had to do all the teletype maintenance because
they were so fucking hard to work on compared with what replaced
them. Even he hated the damned things.

This makes no sense. TTYs were not card gear.

Never said they were.

The cost of 029 card punches etc was utterly obscene compared with what
replaced them essentially because they were complex mechanical devices.

What costs?

You've clearly never bought one.

I don't remember the gear being very complex.

You've clearly never worked on one.

Some other operations had to get blank cards from me because
we were the last operation that bothered to have punched cards etc.

So? When you stopped providing the materials, those others had to get
their own.

They only ever used cards very rarely for the most basic system maintenance.

You clearly dont have a fucking clue about how cards and paper tape were
used.
ROTFLMAO. It is you who don't know buckshit about this stuff and how
it was useful.

/BAH
 
terryc wrote:
jmfbahciv wrote:

I was right; he didn't understand.

Your hope in the face of the mountain range of past examples was impressive.
We had customers like him and had to figure out ways to train the untrainable.
All in all, we got pretty good at that kind of training.

/BAH
 
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> writes:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
William Hamblen wrote
Rod Speed wrote
jmfbahciv wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Ahem A Rivet's Shot<steveo@eircom.net> wrote
Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

WordPervert was never gunna survive, it always
had a completely fucked user interface.

Surprising then that it was so popular right up until Windows
became ubiquitous. I quite liked WordPerfect's interface.

I have head many laments about WordPerfect's demise.

I heard many laments about the demise of punched cards too.

I had to physically remove the last of the card punches to stop
the dinosaurs continuing to use them.

Why in the world would you want to do that?

Because the support for the hardware ended up being a complete pain in
the arse.

You didn't need to get rid of the keypunches, just the card readers.

The card readers werent the problem.

And the key punches are useless without card readers anyway.

There is some remote possility that that was the point.

Nope, the punches are useless without the readers.

Not real good at understanding subtle humor, are you?
He was also not even wrong.

/BAH
 
Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:48:42 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Ahem A Rivet's Shot

Wow you can't even read as far as the signature block.
He's just starting to figure out he's the small terd in the
big allygator pond and is realizing that he's losing. Hence,
the cut/paste replies trying to back out of the deep holes
he's found himself in. Too bad; he might have had something
interesting stored in his backbrain, but it's not retrievable
since his core holes have lost their wire mesh.

/BAH
 
T.T. wrote:
In the punch-card era you always had something in your shirt pocket to write
on.
Apart from that, the whole concept was an abomination.


I liked handling cards. I hated handling papertape. I would rather
have my data in cards than on magtape.

Cards were great; DECtapes were the best.

/BAH
 

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