rant: filenames...

[Tauno Voipio]

On 15.11.21 15.05, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2021-11-15 13:52, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 15/11/2021 12:28, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:50:25 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

snip

Stamp out weird units! We need a different name for the kg.
We shouldn\'t have basic units with baked-in multiplier prefixes.

Isn\'t \'g\' the basic unit???


Yes, but it\'s the MKS system.  Would have been neater if the gram was
a thousand times bigger.

As for the Are, that should have been 1 m^2.


In SI, the kg is the base unit. It was recently redefined to
be based on some fundamental constants of nature, rather than
on the mass of a lump of metal in a vault near Paris.

The mks system is another thing that should be abandoned.
For some weird reason, it\'s still popular with cosmologists.

Jeroen Belleman

You may mix up mks and cgs systems. The old physycist system is
cgs. MKS evolved to SI.

--

-TV

 

[Tauno Voipio]

On 15.11.21 15.05, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2021-11-15 13:52, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 15/11/2021 12:28, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:50:25 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

snip

Stamp out weird units! We need a different name for the kg.
We shouldn\'t have basic units with baked-in multiplier prefixes.

Isn\'t \'g\' the basic unit???


Yes, but it\'s the MKS system.  Would have been neater if the gram was
a thousand times bigger.

As for the Are, that should have been 1 m^2.


In SI, the kg is the base unit. It was recently redefined to
be based on some fundamental constants of nature, rather than
on the mass of a lump of metal in a vault near Paris.

The mks system is another thing that should be abandoned.
For some weird reason, it\'s still popular with cosmologists.

Jeroen Belleman

You may mix up mks and cgs systems. The old physycist system is
cgs. MKS evolved to SI.

--

-TV

 

[Tauno Voipio]

On 15.11.21 15.05, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2021-11-15 13:52, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 15/11/2021 12:28, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:50:25 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

snip

Stamp out weird units! We need a different name for the kg.
We shouldn\'t have basic units with baked-in multiplier prefixes.

Isn\'t \'g\' the basic unit???


Yes, but it\'s the MKS system.  Would have been neater if the gram was
a thousand times bigger.

As for the Are, that should have been 1 m^2.


In SI, the kg is the base unit. It was recently redefined to
be based on some fundamental constants of nature, rather than
on the mass of a lump of metal in a vault near Paris.

The mks system is another thing that should be abandoned.
For some weird reason, it\'s still popular with cosmologists.

Jeroen Belleman

You may mix up mks and cgs systems. The old physycist system is
cgs. MKS evolved to SI.

--

-TV

 

[Tauno Voipio]

On 15.11.21 15.05, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2021-11-15 13:52, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 15/11/2021 12:28, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:50:25 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

snip

Stamp out weird units! We need a different name for the kg.
We shouldn\'t have basic units with baked-in multiplier prefixes.

Isn\'t \'g\' the basic unit???


Yes, but it\'s the MKS system.  Would have been neater if the gram was
a thousand times bigger.

As for the Are, that should have been 1 m^2.


In SI, the kg is the base unit. It was recently redefined to
be based on some fundamental constants of nature, rather than
on the mass of a lump of metal in a vault near Paris.

The mks system is another thing that should be abandoned.
For some weird reason, it\'s still popular with cosmologists.

Jeroen Belleman

You may mix up mks and cgs systems. The old physycist system is
cgs. MKS evolved to SI.

--

-TV

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

lørdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 00.54.25 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 14:07:53 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 12. november 2021 kl. 18.33.10 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 18:10:53 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:

I could use a 100 pin LQFP, but when it is impossible to know what
part is available next week, I cannot.

On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 13:56:52 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 23:12:56 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:

If they stay in stock, life is getting better.

Alas, not in our package. But maybe things are breaking.
We use STM32F207IGT6, LQFP176 package, in several products. The
question is whether we should gamble on them becoming available, and
design them into a new product.

why the F207? seems to me the F407 is more common, it is probably pin compatible
just just faster and with an FPU, M4 vs. M3 core


I don\'t know. Some people selected it last year, as a replacement for
an EOL NXP part for new designs. It seems plenty fast.

maybe it was cheap, I see lots of boards with and people using stm32f4xx
don\'t think I\'ve seen any with stm32f2xx

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

lørdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 00.54.25 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 14:07:53 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 12. november 2021 kl. 18.33.10 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 18:10:53 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:

I could use a 100 pin LQFP, but when it is impossible to know what
part is available next week, I cannot.

On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 13:56:52 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 23:12:56 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:

If they stay in stock, life is getting better.

Alas, not in our package. But maybe things are breaking.
We use STM32F207IGT6, LQFP176 package, in several products. The
question is whether we should gamble on them becoming available, and
design them into a new product.

why the F207? seems to me the F407 is more common, it is probably pin compatible
just just faster and with an FPU, M4 vs. M3 core


I don\'t know. Some people selected it last year, as a replacement for
an EOL NXP part for new designs. It seems plenty fast.

maybe it was cheap, I see lots of boards with and people using stm32f4xx
don\'t think I\'ve seen any with stm32f2xx

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 11/15/2021 19:56, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2021-11-15 18:03, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 11/15/2021 17:51, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:35:02 +0200) it happened
Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smtun7$6v6$1@dont-email.me>:

The unix filenaming system is broken by design.

It is super good!


Yeah, you can have  512 files named Panteltie using different cases.
Very advanced, how stupid people have been to stick to the Latin
alphabet for millenia.


Now, now Dimiter, just because you can does not mean it\'s a good
idea to do so. But I would resent any filesystem *preventing* me
from doing so. Nothing in UNIX prevents you from naming your all
your files in all upper case, should you want to. Choose your evil.

Jeroen Belleman

File names are text entities and as such they are for human consumption.
And how humans use text has been pretty well established for a long
time.
The Unix filesystem breaks these rules. Indeed you can use only upper
or only lower case to work around that so you don\'t inadvertently
access one of two very similar - in both name and contents - files;
but then you lose the use of capitalization which humans are used to.
So the correct way of naming files is obviously to preserve the case
information while treating the names uniquely regardless of case.
It even costs nearly nothing in terms of CPU power for search if
data are organized in a practical way. E.g. in dps the file names
in a directory entry are stored all upper (or was it lower, I did it
years ago) case and the case information is stored separately, a bit per
character. So dps can search in a machine friendly way - just comparing
the text part - and humans can read the name with cases as it is.
Even case dependent search does not cost more than a single longword
compare more for every 32 characters of the name.

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 11/15/2021 19:56, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2021-11-15 18:03, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 11/15/2021 17:51, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:35:02 +0200) it happened
Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smtun7$6v6$1@dont-email.me>:

The unix filenaming system is broken by design.

It is super good!


Yeah, you can have  512 files named Panteltie using different cases.
Very advanced, how stupid people have been to stick to the Latin
alphabet for millenia.


Now, now Dimiter, just because you can does not mean it\'s a good
idea to do so. But I would resent any filesystem *preventing* me
from doing so. Nothing in UNIX prevents you from naming your all
your files in all upper case, should you want to. Choose your evil.

Jeroen Belleman

File names are text entities and as such they are for human consumption.
And how humans use text has been pretty well established for a long
time.
The Unix filesystem breaks these rules. Indeed you can use only upper
or only lower case to work around that so you don\'t inadvertently
access one of two very similar - in both name and contents - files;
but then you lose the use of capitalization which humans are used to.
So the correct way of naming files is obviously to preserve the case
information while treating the names uniquely regardless of case.
It even costs nearly nothing in terms of CPU power for search if
data are organized in a practical way. E.g. in dps the file names
in a directory entry are stored all upper (or was it lower, I did it
years ago) case and the case information is stored separately, a bit per
character. So dps can search in a machine friendly way - just comparing
the text part - and humans can read the name with cases as it is.
Even case dependent search does not cost more than a single longword
compare more for every 32 characters of the name.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 2:18:51 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

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On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 2:11:16 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:48:44 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 4:37:49 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:


. \"Climate change\" might
be a couple of degrees C in a hundred years. No fuel might change the

temp in your bedroom by 50C or so tonight.

Oh, don\'t think small; \'climate change\' might be a river running dry for
a season,
that is the source of water for 400 million people, or a small nation th
at loses
most of its land area to ocean rise, or other nonsurvivable, but not unl
ikely,
events.

2 mm per year. Build arks.

It\'s only 2mm per year until the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets decide to slide off into the ocean. There\'s about 6 metres of sea level rise in the Greenland ice sheet, ans and some 4 metres in the West Antarctic ice sheet., and it will happen fairly rapidly when they do start sliding.

The big source of \"sea level rise\" is subsidence from pumping groundwater
.

Actually, so far it has been from the thermal expansion of sea water as the temperatures of the oceans rise.

You really should wake up to the fact that Anthony Watts is part of the climate change denial propaganda machine.

<snipped the usual drivel>

> In this post Bill writes \"climate chance denial\". That\'s just one letter difference, but how does someone type a C instead of a G.

It\'s a typo, otherwise known as an \"error of action\". Typically they are one-character insertions, deletions or substitutions.

>Google says Bozo is the 13th person in human history to do so...

Or that\'s what John Doe thinks that Google is saying. It is very unlikely to be right. John Doe seems to be acquiring Flyguy\'s obsession with typos - probably because it too is too dim to come up with anything else to say.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

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On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 2:11:16 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:48:44 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 4:37:49 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:


. \"Climate change\" might
be a couple of degrees C in a hundred years. No fuel might change the

temp in your bedroom by 50C or so tonight.

Oh, don\'t think small; \'climate change\' might be a river running dry for
a season,
that is the source of water for 400 million people, or a small nation th
at loses
most of its land area to ocean rise, or other nonsurvivable, but not unl
ikely,
events.

2 mm per year. Build arks.

It\'s only 2mm per year until the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets decide to slide off into the ocean. There\'s about 6 metres of sea level rise in the Greenland ice sheet, ans and some 4 metres in the West Antarctic ice sheet., and it will happen fairly rapidly when they do start sliding.

The big source of \"sea level rise\" is subsidence from pumping groundwater
.

Actually, so far it has been from the thermal expansion of sea water as the temperatures of the oceans rise.

You really should wake up to the fact that Anthony Watts is part of the climate change denial propaganda machine.

<snipped the usual drivel>

> In this post Bill writes \"climate chance denial\". That\'s just one letter difference, but how does someone type a C instead of a G.

It\'s a typo, otherwise known as an \"error of action\". Typically they are one-character insertions, deletions or substitutions.

>Google says Bozo is the 13th person in human history to do so...

Or that\'s what John Doe thinks that Google is saying. It is very unlikely to be right. John Doe seems to be acquiring Flyguy\'s obsession with typos - probably because it too is too dim to come up with anything else to say.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

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On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 2:11:16 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:48:44 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 4:37:49 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:


. \"Climate change\" might
be a couple of degrees C in a hundred years. No fuel might change the

temp in your bedroom by 50C or so tonight.

Oh, don\'t think small; \'climate change\' might be a river running dry for
a season,
that is the source of water for 400 million people, or a small nation th
at loses
most of its land area to ocean rise, or other nonsurvivable, but not unl
ikely,
events.

2 mm per year. Build arks.

It\'s only 2mm per year until the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets decide to slide off into the ocean. There\'s about 6 metres of sea level rise in the Greenland ice sheet, ans and some 4 metres in the West Antarctic ice sheet., and it will happen fairly rapidly when they do start sliding.

The big source of \"sea level rise\" is subsidence from pumping groundwater
.

Actually, so far it has been from the thermal expansion of sea water as the temperatures of the oceans rise.

You really should wake up to the fact that Anthony Watts is part of the climate change denial propaganda machine.

<snipped the usual drivel>

> In this post Bill writes \"climate chance denial\". That\'s just one letter difference, but how does someone type a C instead of a G.

It\'s a typo, otherwise known as an \"error of action\". Typically they are one-character insertions, deletions or substitutions.

>Google says Bozo is the 13th person in human history to do so...

Or that\'s what John Doe thinks that Google is saying. It is very unlikely to be right. John Doe seems to be acquiring Flyguy\'s obsession with typos - probably because it too is too dim to come up with anything else to say.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

lørdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 00.54.25 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 14:07:53 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 12. november 2021 kl. 18.33.10 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 18:10:53 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:

I could use a 100 pin LQFP, but when it is impossible to know what
part is available next week, I cannot.

On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 13:56:52 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 23:12:56 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:

If they stay in stock, life is getting better.

Alas, not in our package. But maybe things are breaking.
We use STM32F207IGT6, LQFP176 package, in several products. The
question is whether we should gamble on them becoming available, and
design them into a new product.

why the F207? seems to me the F407 is more common, it is probably pin compatible
just just faster and with an FPU, M4 vs. M3 core


I don\'t know. Some people selected it last year, as a replacement for
an EOL NXP part for new designs. It seems plenty fast.

maybe it was cheap, I see lots of boards with and people using stm32f4xx
don\'t think I\'ve seen any with stm32f2xx

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 11/15/2021 20:07, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 20:03:14 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smu7d3$emg$1@dont-email.me>:

On 11/15/2021 19:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:03:50 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smu3tn$8jl$1@dont-email.me>:

On 11/15/2021 17:51, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:35:02 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smtun7$6v6$1@dont-email.me>:

The unix filenaming system is broken by design.

It is super good!


Yeah, you can have 512 files named Panteltie using different cases.

Cool!

Read:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48770/how-to-match-case-insensitive-patterns-with-ls
to list files ignoring case

You don\'t have to convince me a solution can be programmed to just about
any flaw, including the file naming in unix.



Very advanced, how stupid people have been to stick to the Latin
alphabet for millenia.



Their file names are case dependent;

And that is a GOOD thing!
You need to learn how to search with
locate -i
As you likely know mA is not the same as MA and mOhm is not MOhm


Yeah, good thing you figured out an exception to cling to,
see my comment above.

Then the naming is not the only shortcoming of the unix filesystem,
it (like that of windows) makes worst fit allocation impractical.

You really need to read up on this stuff if you want to use it.
I have NEVER encoutered a problem with Linux file systems, and tried many and use many.

Oh I am sure it works, in its flawed by design way. Not using \"worst
fit\" for allocation brings just more fragmentation than there has to be
which you probably have not even noticed - or did not know there
was life without it.
And you have learned to live with the flawed use of text.


But MS windows crap filesystem as it comes with some USB sticks or is used by my Chinese digital TV receivers
even limit file size to 4293402624 bytes.
4293402624 Jul 8 2020 /mnt/sda2/video/satellite/magnum_3x_part_1.ts
41383680 Jul 8 2020 /mnt/sda2/video/satellite/magnum_3x_part_2.ts

-> 2^32 = 4294967296

I never intended to compare these two filesystems. The MS approach with
file names is the correct one though, and the unix\' use of text for file
names is the flawed one, that much is obvious.


The latter can be fixed by writing/adopting a well designed filesystem;
the naming flaw cannot be fixed.

You are just blaming the car that you do not know how to drive.


Yeah, what do I know about filesystems. How many filesystems have
you designed.

I know you cannot switch off from fuming mode - your entering of which I
predicted - so I suggest you just let it go, you don\'t really know what
you are talking about.

Have a nice evening.

I am not in fuming mode, just trying to teach you, but
you seemingly just post insults to get a response as you feel so lonely (your own words in previous posts)
Maybe get a cat or dog ? Or go to bar and try it there?

So you almost qualify for the filter now.

Insults?
Teach me? How to use the ali-express toys you are tinkering with, sure.

Feel free to filter me, I won\'t respond any further to your fuming
posts anyway.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 1:44:48 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

Flyguy wrote:

bill....@ieee.org wrote:

Bill Sloman, Sydney

BTW, Mister Superior Intelligence, you, AGAIN, can\'t spell your OWN NAME!!!

I just noticed that.

Flyguy and John Doe don\'t understand typo\'s, also known as \"errors of action\". Typically they are single-character insertions, deletions or substitutions. Everybody makes them from time to time.

> In another post, Bill wrote \"climate chance denier\". I thought it was a speech recognition, lack of editing, error. But it probably cannot use speech recognition.

I don\'t bother with speech recognition software - I have got a microphone that I can plug into this computer, but haven\'t got to trouble of downloading any speech recognition hardware. Some of my friends have played with the Dragon program, but I touch type, which is quicker and more accurate.

> Might be going away soon...

If this is a promise from John Doe, we will all be much happier when he delivers on it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 1:44:48 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

Flyguy wrote:

bill....@ieee.org wrote:

Bill Sloman, Sydney

BTW, Mister Superior Intelligence, you, AGAIN, can\'t spell your OWN NAME!!!

I just noticed that.

Flyguy and John Doe don\'t understand typo\'s, also known as \"errors of action\". Typically they are single-character insertions, deletions or substitutions. Everybody makes them from time to time.

> In another post, Bill wrote \"climate chance denier\". I thought it was a speech recognition, lack of editing, error. But it probably cannot use speech recognition.

I don\'t bother with speech recognition software - I have got a microphone that I can plug into this computer, but haven\'t got to trouble of downloading any speech recognition hardware. Some of my friends have played with the Dragon program, but I touch type, which is quicker and more accurate.

> Might be going away soon...

If this is a promise from John Doe, we will all be much happier when he delivers on it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 11/15/2021 20:07, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 20:03:14 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smu7d3$emg$1@dont-email.me>:

On 11/15/2021 19:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:03:50 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smu3tn$8jl$1@dont-email.me>:

On 11/15/2021 17:51, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:35:02 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smtun7$6v6$1@dont-email.me>:

The unix filenaming system is broken by design.

It is super good!


Yeah, you can have 512 files named Panteltie using different cases.

Cool!

Read:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48770/how-to-match-case-insensitive-patterns-with-ls
to list files ignoring case

You don\'t have to convince me a solution can be programmed to just about
any flaw, including the file naming in unix.



Very advanced, how stupid people have been to stick to the Latin
alphabet for millenia.



Their file names are case dependent;

And that is a GOOD thing!
You need to learn how to search with
locate -i
As you likely know mA is not the same as MA and mOhm is not MOhm


Yeah, good thing you figured out an exception to cling to,
see my comment above.

Then the naming is not the only shortcoming of the unix filesystem,
it (like that of windows) makes worst fit allocation impractical.

You really need to read up on this stuff if you want to use it.
I have NEVER encoutered a problem with Linux file systems, and tried many and use many.

Oh I am sure it works, in its flawed by design way. Not using \"worst
fit\" for allocation brings just more fragmentation than there has to be
which you probably have not even noticed - or did not know there
was life without it.
And you have learned to live with the flawed use of text.


But MS windows crap filesystem as it comes with some USB sticks or is used by my Chinese digital TV receivers
even limit file size to 4293402624 bytes.
4293402624 Jul 8 2020 /mnt/sda2/video/satellite/magnum_3x_part_1.ts
41383680 Jul 8 2020 /mnt/sda2/video/satellite/magnum_3x_part_2.ts

-> 2^32 = 4294967296

I never intended to compare these two filesystems. The MS approach with
file names is the correct one though, and the unix\' use of text for file
names is the flawed one, that much is obvious.


The latter can be fixed by writing/adopting a well designed filesystem;
the naming flaw cannot be fixed.

You are just blaming the car that you do not know how to drive.


Yeah, what do I know about filesystems. How many filesystems have
you designed.

I know you cannot switch off from fuming mode - your entering of which I
predicted - so I suggest you just let it go, you don\'t really know what
you are talking about.

Have a nice evening.

I am not in fuming mode, just trying to teach you, but
you seemingly just post insults to get a response as you feel so lonely (your own words in previous posts)
Maybe get a cat or dog ? Or go to bar and try it there?

So you almost qualify for the filter now.

Insults?
Teach me? How to use the ali-express toys you are tinkering with, sure.

Feel free to filter me, I won\'t respond any further to your fuming
posts anyway.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2021-11-08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

What do you think this is? [1]

mech_eng_jw.pdf

perhaps: JW series relays from Panasonic/Nais

> datasheet.pdf ?

something downloaded from \"alldatasheet.com\"

And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages?
You can\'t even see all of the stuff on the jumpers.

some problem with your PDF reader.

> [1] it\'s a data sheet for a relay

I think I have a copy here.

--
Jasen.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2021-11-08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

What do you think this is? [1]

mech_eng_jw.pdf

perhaps: JW series relays from Panasonic/Nais

> datasheet.pdf ?

something downloaded from \"alldatasheet.com\"

And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages?
You can\'t even see all of the stuff on the jumpers.

some problem with your PDF reader.

> [1] it\'s a data sheet for a relay

I think I have a copy here.

--
Jasen.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2021-11-08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

What do you think this is? [1]

mech_eng_jw.pdf

perhaps: JW series relays from Panasonic/Nais

> datasheet.pdf ?

something downloaded from \"alldatasheet.com\"

And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages?
You can\'t even see all of the stuff on the jumpers.

some problem with your PDF reader.

> [1] it\'s a data sheet for a relay

I think I have a copy here.

--
Jasen.

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 11/15/2021 20:07, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 20:03:14 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smu7d3$emg$1@dont-email.me>:

On 11/15/2021 19:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:03:50 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smu3tn$8jl$1@dont-email.me>:

On 11/15/2021 17:51, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:35:02 +0200) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <smtun7$6v6$1@dont-email.me>:

The unix filenaming system is broken by design.

It is super good!


Yeah, you can have 512 files named Panteltie using different cases.

Cool!

Read:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48770/how-to-match-case-insensitive-patterns-with-ls
to list files ignoring case

You don\'t have to convince me a solution can be programmed to just about
any flaw, including the file naming in unix.



Very advanced, how stupid people have been to stick to the Latin
alphabet for millenia.



Their file names are case dependent;

And that is a GOOD thing!
You need to learn how to search with
locate -i
As you likely know mA is not the same as MA and mOhm is not MOhm


Yeah, good thing you figured out an exception to cling to,
see my comment above.

Then the naming is not the only shortcoming of the unix filesystem,
it (like that of windows) makes worst fit allocation impractical.

You really need to read up on this stuff if you want to use it.
I have NEVER encoutered a problem with Linux file systems, and tried many and use many.

Oh I am sure it works, in its flawed by design way. Not using \"worst
fit\" for allocation brings just more fragmentation than there has to be
which you probably have not even noticed - or did not know there
was life without it.
And you have learned to live with the flawed use of text.


But MS windows crap filesystem as it comes with some USB sticks or is used by my Chinese digital TV receivers
even limit file size to 4293402624 bytes.
4293402624 Jul 8 2020 /mnt/sda2/video/satellite/magnum_3x_part_1.ts
41383680 Jul 8 2020 /mnt/sda2/video/satellite/magnum_3x_part_2.ts

-> 2^32 = 4294967296

I never intended to compare these two filesystems. The MS approach with
file names is the correct one though, and the unix\' use of text for file
names is the flawed one, that much is obvious.


The latter can be fixed by writing/adopting a well designed filesystem;
the naming flaw cannot be fixed.

You are just blaming the car that you do not know how to drive.


Yeah, what do I know about filesystems. How many filesystems have
you designed.

I know you cannot switch off from fuming mode - your entering of which I
predicted - so I suggest you just let it go, you don\'t really know what
you are talking about.

Have a nice evening.

I am not in fuming mode, just trying to teach you, but
you seemingly just post insults to get a response as you feel so lonely (your own words in previous posts)
Maybe get a cat or dog ? Or go to bar and try it there?

So you almost qualify for the filter now.

Insults?
Teach me? How to use the ali-express toys you are tinkering with, sure.

Feel free to filter me, I won\'t respond any further to your fuming
posts anyway.