Raindrops creating electricity?...

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

 

[Peeler]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje, another brain dead,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Happy to be able to assist the troll in his idiotic trolling, aren\'t you,
troll-feeding senile asshole? <BG>

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

 

[Ottavio Caruso]

Am 04/07/2023 um 13:18 schrieb John Larkin:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

I missed the 1st part of this thread, but back in the 1990s and 80s,
when I still lived in Italy (happy days!) I built a few negative ion
generators, made up of tens of capacitors and diodes.

Long story short, I used to put my multimeter couple of inches next to
the needle where the ions come from, and I used to get some mV and mA of
current.



--
Ottavio Caruso

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:47 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<1078ai9179nsak1uh1llqube8e3v2rqdue@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

OK, but it is good to get out and get some excercise.
You can it on it in summer in the sun with some nice food.
Have some nice garden chairs too.

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-04, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:47 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Sure, but what else am I going to do with 2 acres of clay?
Admittedly, my \"grass\" is \"whatever grows there, including lots
of weeds and wildflowers\". If I didn\'t mow, I\'d have a hellscape
of thistles and black walnut (and be up to my ass in squirrels).

OK, but it is good to get out and get some excercise.
You can it on it in summer in the sun with some nice food.

Sun? You mean that harsh yellow thing in the sky that induces
me to wear long sleeves while I\'m mowing the lawn, even in 90 F
weather?

> Have some nice garden chairs too.

On the patio. In the shade.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 16:29:45 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-07-04, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:47 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Sure, but what else am I going to do with 2 acres of clay?
Admittedly, my \"grass\" is \"whatever grows there, including lots
of weeds and wildflowers\". If I didn\'t mow, I\'d have a hellscape
of thistles and black walnut (and be up to my ass in squirrels).

OK, but it is good to get out and get some excercise.
You can it on it in summer in the sun with some nice food.

Sun? You mean that harsh yellow thing in the sky that induces
me to wear long sleeves while I\'m mowing the lawn, even in 90 F
weather?

We see that thing here once in a while. It looks dangerous to me.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 16:29:45 GMT) it happened Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote in <ZNXoM.22560$edN3.16309@fx14.iad>:

On 2023-07-04, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:47 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Sure, but what else am I going to do with 2 acres of clay?
Admittedly, my \"grass\" is \"whatever grows there, including lots
of weeds and wildflowers\". If I didn\'t mow, I\'d have a hellscape
of thistles and black walnut (and be up to my ass in squirrels).

OK, but it is good to get out and get some excercise.
You can it on it in summer in the sun with some nice food.

Sun? You mean that harsh yellow thing in the sky that induces
me to wear long sleeves while I\'m mowing the lawn, even in 90 F
weather?

Have some nice garden chairs too.

On the patio. In the shade.

Oh I dunno,
lived in Florida with just a Tshirt, on the Canadian border with just jeans, down under with just a Tshirt in the wild
and survived once at -40 C here with just jeans..
I did get some sunburn on my shoulders once in Florida..
I do remember sitting in the sun on the grass in some park in London feeding the swans...
Yesterday I went biking and some shopping, nice in the sun but a bit windy, today it is storm and rain here.
I have a big umbrella I can set up if sun was to get too much in the garden here.
I can lay out my flexible solar panels on the grass if power fails...
that yellow thing in the sky then will charge my batteries...

I remember as kid falling though the ice (hardly any here in winter with warming these days) and crawling out
and walking with boots full of water home...

Seem to have good body temperature control....

Typical, I once bought a winter coat, expensive, never did wear it, gave it away to an eartling I know,
he asked \'you never wear that coat can I have it?\'.

 

[Ed P]

On 7/5/2023 2:54 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 16:29:45 GMT) it happened Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote in <ZNXoM.22560$edN3.16309@fx14.iad>:

On 2023-07-04, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:47 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Sure, but what else am I going to do with 2 acres of clay?
Admittedly, my \"grass\" is \"whatever grows there, including lots
of weeds and wildflowers\". If I didn\'t mow, I\'d have a hellscape
of thistles and black walnut (and be up to my ass in squirrels).

OK, but it is good to get out and get some excercise.
You can it on it in summer in the sun with some nice food.

Sun? You mean that harsh yellow thing in the sky that induces
me to wear long sleeves while I\'m mowing the lawn, even in 90 F
weather?

Have some nice garden chairs too.

On the patio. In the shade.

Oh I dunno,
lived in Florida with just a Tshirt, on the Canadian border with just jeans, down under with just a Tshirt in the wild
and survived once at -40 C here with just jeans..

Did you ever get locked up for not having either pants or a top on?
Most of us wear both at the same time.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:01:40 -0400) it happened Ed P
<esp@snet.xxx> wrote in <UQdpM.39985$N3_4.8871@fx10.iad>:

On 7/5/2023 2:54 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 16:29:45 GMT) it happened Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote in <ZNXoM.22560$edN3.16309@fx14.iad>:

On 2023-07-04, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:47 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Sure, but what else am I going to do with 2 acres of clay?
Admittedly, my \"grass\" is \"whatever grows there, including lots
of weeds and wildflowers\". If I didn\'t mow, I\'d have a hellscape
of thistles and black walnut (and be up to my ass in squirrels).

OK, but it is good to get out and get some excercise.
You can it on it in summer in the sun with some nice food.

Sun? You mean that harsh yellow thing in the sky that induces
me to wear long sleeves while I\'m mowing the lawn, even in 90 F
weather?

Have some nice garden chairs too.

On the patio. In the shade.

Oh I dunno,
lived in Florida with just a Tshirt, on the Canadian border with just jeans, down under with just a Tshirt in the wild
and survived once at -40 C here with just jeans..

Did you ever get locked up for not having either pants or a top on?
Most of us wear both at the same time.

I am still locked up of course on planet earth.
And today even more because a storm warning code red...
Some women died when a tree fell on her car...
No trains, some roads closed because of fallen trees,
worst is now past and code orange now even removed.
Sure I was wearing jeans too, but that is all.
What is good is that my motorized satellite dish <checks) is still aligned
so I can see the misery and fun of your planet.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:18:47 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Actually you can, it\'s greens just like lettuce.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 15:19:55 +0100, Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

Am 04/07/2023 um 13:18 schrieb John Larkin:
On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.


I missed the 1st part of this thread, but back in the 1990s and 80s,
when I still lived in Italy (happy days!) I built a few negative ion
generators, made up of tens of capacitors and diodes.

Long story short, I used to put my multimeter couple of inches next to
the needle where the ions come from, and I used to get some mV and mA of
current.

I had a few as a kid, commercial mini ones meant to get rid of dust, you could feel what appeared to be a light breeze if you put your hand in front. Not sure why.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:54 +0100, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,

If you have a sissy circuit breaker, what are you worried about? If you have fuses you\'re not a sissy anyway.

> I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Motors are only harmed by salt water.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 03:12:45 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:18:47 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Actually you can, it\'s greens just like lettuce.

Except for the dogs.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 04:13:03 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 03:12:45 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:18:47 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,
I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Grass involves a lot of annoying labor, and you can\'t even eat it.

Actually you can, it\'s greens just like lettuce.

Except for the dogs.

Yes, don\'t eat the bits they\'ve done that on.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Thu, 06 Jul 2023 03:13:32 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17m1sub1mvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:18:54 +0100, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:59:11 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17i58xfwmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:44:20 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:05:15 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17hhe1wdmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 13:19:02 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have
both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather
prediction.
You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

I have a rain radar. Stand in the middle of the garden, rotate, observe clouds.

May work if little wind, we have 5 Bft here now, so one hour may make a lot of difference as rain clouds
come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,

If you have a sissy circuit breaker, what are you worried about? If you have fuses you\'re not a sissy anyway.

Wet environments provides a ground path.
Do not use electric tools in the rain.
Leaving the tools out in the rain is even more stupid, it will damage things, and electrocute you if you handle it.
Basic rule:
Make sure there never is a ground path.

I have learned to avoid using it in rain, and want to keep it in one piece too.

Motors are only harmed by salt water.

Bull

!

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Thu, 06 Jul 2023 03:13:32 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17m1sub1mvhs6z@ryzen>:

come in that you did not see. Just after you got all the garden tools out...

It doesn\'t take an hour to get tools out.

I also use rain radar if I want to go biking.

Isn\'t your skin waterproof?

Yes, but electric grass mower, electric hedge cutter, electric weed burner
very long extention cables, 230 V 50 Hz AC here,

If you have a sissy circuit breaker, what are you worried about? If you have fuses you\'re not a sissy anyway.

You are a dangerous idiot, as a warning to the rest of thE repair group you seem to be crossposting too:

ALWAYS MAKE SURE THERE IS NO GROUND PATH FROM WHAT YOU ARE HOLDING ON TO!!!!!
SO IF YOU ARE WORKING WITH ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT DO NOT STAND WITH YOU FEET IN THE WATER OR HOLD YOUR OTHER HAND ON TO A COPPER PIPE
OR OTHER OBJECT THAT IS LIKELY GROUNDED.

Typical exmaple is working an old TV chassis it will be live, you will be live and now you only need to touch the central heating for example
to get electrocuted.

You who call yourself \'commander\' are a death trap.
Piss off!

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 02 Jul 2023 07:22:54 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<k613ai5fv8tmbfou5f4997b5bgak14n00p@4ax.com>:

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 14:35:59 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 20:41:45 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 20:05:21 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 15:05:10 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking
a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could one fold
up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

There might be an impedance mismatch charging the battery.

I\'ve never heard that term applied to DC and don\'t know what you mean. I only understand it for audio amplifiers.

The Maximum Power Transfer theorem works for AC or DC.

It makes sense for an amp, but not for raw power. For example, there\'s 240V at that socket there, with virtually no
resistance. If I connect a resistive heater to it to it to draw power, I get all the power as usable heat pretty much, even though the
resistance of the heating element is vastly more than the supply. What if I connected a fucking big element to it, such that it\'s
resistance was equal to the supply line? Half the power would be dissipated in the supply line. I\'d drop from 99.9% to 50%
efficiency.

Yes, that\'s one implication of the theorem. You could really conjugate
match your AC line for a cycle or two and get a lot of power before
the breaker trips.

People don\'t impedance match audio amps either. \"Damping factor\" is
one of those quaint terms that audiodudes use to express the mismatch.
A good power amp has milliohms of output impedance.

A \"600 ohm\" audio output is usually much less.

RF types use \'S11\' and \'S22\' to express matching. A horrible mismatch
sounds better expressed in dB.

My NMR gradient amps were very good current sources, which is why they
worked better than hacked audio amps.


There is a battery that consists of a beta emitter coated rod inside a
metal tube. It develops hundreds of kilovolts at low current, and the
problem has always been, aside from the radioactive hazard, how to
convert that down to something useful.

Can\'t be that hard, we convert voltages all the time.

Please sketch up a 5 volt power supply with a 400KV input.

Just take a normal one but moreso. Do you really think it\'s much harder to convert 50V to 5V than 10V to 5V?

Yes, fewer switcher chips are available at 50 volts. I\'m doing a bunch
of designs now with +48 in and chips are relatively rare and sometimes
weird.

But I specified 400 KV. Give it a shot.

Is done all the time
China now even has a 1.1 MV DC power line. to normal AC, then
your Meanwell can do the rest to +5
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-voltage_electricity_transmission_in_China
Just order from China

Some use optical controlled solid state switch modules in series.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 00:29:15 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 15:22:54 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 14:35:59 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 20:41:45 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 20:05:21 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 15:05:10 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking
a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could one fold
up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

There might be an impedance mismatch charging the battery.

I\'ve never heard that term applied to DC and don\'t know what you mean. I only understand it for audio amplifiers.

The Maximum Power Transfer theorem works for AC or DC.

It makes sense for an amp, but not for raw power. For example, there\'s 240V at that socket there, with virtually no resistance. If I connect a resistive heater to it to it to draw power, I get all the power as usable heat pretty much, even though the resistance of the heating element is vastly more than the supply. What if I connected a fucking big element to it, such that it\'s resistance was equal to the supply line? Half the power would be dissipated in the supply line. I\'d drop from 99.9% to 50% efficiency.

Yes, that\'s one implication of the theorem. You could really conjugate
match your AC line for a cycle or two and get a lot of power before
the breaker trips.

What is a breaker? Is that a modern version of a fuse?

Yes, that\'s right.

People don\'t impedance match audio amps either.

I\'m sure I was told you do to get the most power out. I guess that\'s only true for rubbish amps with a high resistance, where connected low ohm speakers to it gets less power out by dropping the voltage. IF you impedance matched a milliohm amp, you\'d get more current than it was capable of producing and break it.

If you impedance match any amp the efficiency will be below 50%.

\"Damping factor\" is
one of those quaint terms that audiodudes use to express the mismatch.
A good power amp has milliohms of output impedance.

A \"600 ohm\" audio output is usually much less.

RF types use \'S11\' and \'S22\' to express matching. A horrible mismatch
sounds better expressed in dB.

My NMR gradient amps were very good current sources, which is why they
worked better than hacked audio amps.

There is a battery that consists of a beta emitter coated rod inside a
metal tube. It develops hundreds of kilovolts at low current, and the
problem has always been, aside from the radioactive hazard, how to
convert that down to something useful.

Can\'t be that hard, we convert voltages all the time.

Please sketch up a 5 volt power supply with a 400KV input.

Just take a normal one but moreso. Do you really think it\'s much harder to convert 50V to 5V than 10V to 5V?

Yes, fewer switcher chips are available at 50 volts. I\'m doing a bunch
of designs now with +48 in and chips are relatively rare and sometimes
weird.

But I specified 400 KV. Give it a shot.

A little coil?

Give it a shot.

 

[Peeler]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:54:56 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> Give it a shot.

The troll always does, whenever you open your toothless senile gob for him,
senile sucker of troll cock!

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More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL) \"wisdom\":
\"Not enough people run red lights, cyclists or drivers. They just sit and
wait for someone who crossed a minute ago and is now inside a fucking shop.\"
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