Raindrops creating electricity?...

[Vir Campestris]

On 28/06/2023 11:37, alan_m wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity?  But.... wouldn\'t you be better
sticking a solar panel there?  I assume you can\'t have both?  Or could
one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193


Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

That\'s probably true. The length of the life after you have captured a
lightning bolt might be an issue

Andy

 

[alan_m]

On 28/06/2023 12:50, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

In the past 2 months here - 5 minutes of rain in one shower, one hour
long thunderstorm and one day of light rain. And they complain that
power from wind is intermittent


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[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking
a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could one fold
up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

As long as you have a kite with a very thick string. Or is the current low and brief enough not to melt it?

Also, you might boil the battery charging it abruptly.

I once had a 12V lead acid car battery in parallel with 30 others violently explode when it lost a cell and became a 10V battery, sucking a huge amount of current from the rest. I wasn\'t at home at the time, but came back to a very strong smell in the driveway and thought there was a dead animal somewhere. I later found a battery missing from the shelf in the garage, and found pieces scattered everywhere.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 21:26:59 +0100, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/06/2023 11:37, alan_m wrote:
On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better
sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could
one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193


Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

That\'s probably true. The length of the life after you have captured a
lightning bolt might be an issue

You don\'t have to hold the kite. And people have survived strikes anyway, you just get a cool fractal tattoo.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 09:05:00 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 28/06/2023 12:50, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

In the past 2 months here - 5 minutes of rain in one shower, one hour
long thunderstorm and one day of light rain. And they complain that
power from wind is intermittent

The best way to make power is PV solar panels and lead acid batteries. I can make power 10 times cheaper than I can buy it off the grid. And don\'t even think about not using batteries and selling it to the grid, they give you way less than they sell it for.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather prediction. You would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 09:05:00 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 28/06/2023 12:50, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

In the past 2 months here - 5 minutes of rain in one shower, one hour
long thunderstorm and one day of light rain. And they complain that
power from wind is intermittent

The best way to make power is PV solar panels and lead acid batteries. I can make power 10 times cheaper than I can buy it off the grid. And don\'t even think about not using batteries and selling it to the grid, they give you way less than they sell it for.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 09:05:00 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 28/06/2023 12:50, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

In the past 2 months here - 5 minutes of rain in one shower, one hour
long thunderstorm and one day of light rain. And they complain that
power from wind is intermittent

The best way to make power is PV solar panels and lead acid batteries. I can make power 10 times cheaper than I can buy it off the grid. And don\'t even think about not using batteries and selling it to the grid, they give you way less than they sell it for.

 

[alan_m]

On 01/07/2023 12:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:

The best way to make power is PV solar panels and lead acid batteries.
I can make power 10 times cheaper than I can buy it off the grid.  And
don\'t even think about not using batteries and selling it to the grid,
they give you way less than they sell it for.

So why haven\'t you gone completely off grid? Or, is it a case that it\'s
only 10 times cheaper if you ignore the initial cost of the solar
panels, battery, inverter and the ongoing cost of back-up for when the
sun doesn\'t shine long enough during the day.


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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 01 Jul 2023 12:13:07 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.17ehf5upmvhs6z@ryzen>:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:50:13 +0100, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:09:41 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.168rqfunmvhs6z@ryzen>:

Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both?
Or
could one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Raindrops falling on piezo transducers could work too?
Or falling on a horizontally mounted dynamic speaker cone ?

I will take a closer look perhaps when their thing is in the shops here.

The speaker cone could become a large microphone, and you could feed the data into a complex system for weather prediction. You
would know immediately when it was raining, without the hassle of looking out the window.

I you used a 1 to 10 standard audio transformer in reverse perhaps there would
be enough voltage to flash a LED if a drop hits the cone.

All that said I just look at the \'rain radar\' here, this morning showed the last shower of today leaving
and I started work in the garden...
https://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity?  But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking
a solar panel there?  I assume you can\'t have both?  Or could one fold
up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193


Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

There might be an impedance mismatch charging the battery.

There is a battery that consists of a beta emitter coated rod inside a
metal tube. It develops hundreds of kilovolts at low current, and the
problem has always been, aside from the radioactive hazard, how to
convert that down to something useful.

 

[jon]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 07:05:10 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity?  But.... wouldn\'t you be better
sticking a solar panel there?  I assume you can\'t have both?  Or could
one fold up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193


Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

There might be an impedance mismatch charging the battery.

There is a battery that consists of a beta emitter coated rod inside a
metal tube. It develops hundreds of kilovolts at low current, and the
problem has always been, aside from the radioactive hazard, how to
convert that down to something useful.

There is no AC involved.

 

[Peeler]

On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 12:19:44 +0100, anal_m, the notorious troll-feeding
senile retard, blathered again:


> So why haven\'t you gone completely off grid? Or, is it a case that it\'s

It\'s a case of him trolling the shit out of these ngs, you braindead,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE!

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any other. Of course relatives rate higher, but any two strangers are the
same, no matter what age. Unless they\'re under about 2 years old, then I
don\'t care at all. I\'d put abortion right up to 2 years after birth.\"
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[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 15:05:10 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking
a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could one fold
up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193


Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

There might be an impedance mismatch charging the battery.

I\'ve never heard that term applied to DC and don\'t know what you mean. I only understand it for audio amplifiers.

There is a battery that consists of a beta emitter coated rod inside a
metal tube. It develops hundreds of kilovolts at low current, and the
problem has always been, aside from the radioactive hazard, how to
convert that down to something useful.

Can\'t be that hard, we convert voltages all the time.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 20:05:21 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 15:05:10 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking
a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could one fold
up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193


Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

There might be an impedance mismatch charging the battery.

I\'ve never heard that term applied to DC and don\'t know what you mean. I only understand it for audio amplifiers.

The Maximum Power Transfer theorem works for AC or DC.

There is a battery that consists of a beta emitter coated rod inside a
metal tube. It develops hundreds of kilovolts at low current, and the
problem has always been, aside from the radioactive hazard, how to
convert that down to something useful.

Can\'t be that hard, we convert voltages all the time.

Please sketch up a 5 volt power supply with a 400KV input.

 

[Boris]

\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
newsp.17ehayehmvhs6z@ryzen:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better
sticking
a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could one
fold
up when not in use?


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193

Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the
energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

As long as you have a kite with a very thick string. Or is the current
low and brief enough not to melt it?

Also, you might boil the battery charging it abruptly.

I once had a 12V lead acid car battery in parallel with 30 others

violently explode when it lost a cell and became a 10V battery, sucking a
huge amount of current from the rest. I wasn\'t at home at the time, but
came back to a very strong smell in the driveway and thought there was a
dead animal somewhere. I later found a battery missing from the shelf in
the garage, and found pieces scattered everywhere.
>

As my kids would say, \"LOL\".

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 12:05:26 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:37:04 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
On 28/06/2023 10:09, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Raindrops creating electricity? But.... wouldn\'t you be better sticking
a solar panel there? I assume you can\'t have both? Or could one fold
up when not in use?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211285521008193


Don\'t you just need a kite and a battery big enough to store the energy
from the lightening strike? Power for life.

If you are standing there when the lightning strikes, you will be instantly dead, so the amount of power involved is infinitesimal.

> There might be an impedance mismatch charging the battery.

Trust John Larkin to miss the point

There is a battery that consists of a beta emitter coated rod inside a
metal tube. It develops hundreds of kilovolts at low current, and the
problem has always been, aside from the radioactive hazard, how to
convert that down to something useful.

Surely it only gets used when you need need hundred of kilovolts?

An electric-wind driven windmill could convert some of the power to mechanical movement and rotate a magnet which could produce harvestable power, but the efficiency would be dire.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 03:30:05 -0000 (UTC), Boris, another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

I once had a 12V lead acid car battery in parallel with 30 others
violently explode when it lost a cell and became a 10V battery, sucking a
huge amount of current from the rest. I wasn\'t at home at the time, but
came back to a very strong smell in the driveway and thought there was a
dead animal somewhere. I later found a battery missing from the shelf in
the garage, and found pieces scattered everywhere.


As my kids would say, \"LOL\".

As I keep saying, you can\'t believe ANY made up story that PROVEN clinically
insane attention whore keeps baiting all you senile assholes with!

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world:
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used gears and the handbrake and kept a bigger distance to the car in front
Never crashed it once.\"
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[alan_m]

On 01/07/2023 20:41, John Larkin wrote:

Can\'t be that hard, we convert voltages all the time.

Please sketch up a 5 volt power supply with a 400KV input.

Two series resistors in the right ratio ?

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[John Larkin]

On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 10:16:30 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

On 01/07/2023 20:41, John Larkin wrote:


Can\'t be that hard, we convert voltages all the time.

Please sketch up a 5 volt power supply with a 400KV input.

Two series resistors in the right ratio ?

Or four hundred.