PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

"Android Cat" <steveray@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:bfeb7$47f678df$d15a8fd4$6458@PRIMUS.CA...
-=Spudley=- wrote:
he will soon be back trawling the internet looking for his next tight
assed prey----- and trying to hide behind ....

Speaking of asses.

Yerr he will probably let you fuck his ass------ U wont even need to ask
nicely LOL

steveray@iinet.net.au

steveray@iinet.net.au

steveray@iinet.net.au
 
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:37:56 +1000, "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.

Dave.
Simon says, "At Ebay we aim to please... please bend over" ;-)

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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:37:56 +1000, "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.

Dave.


Simon says, "At Ebay we aim to please... please bend over" ;-)

The quicker Ebay prices themselves out of business, the sooner all
the Ebay spam will disappear.


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Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM
 
David L. Jones wrote:
Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.

Dave.
Have you ever tried talking to paypal about a dispute, let alone any
other subject?

The canned text returned answers, usually don't match the questions you
ask. Then they have the front to regularly ask for user feed back.

And I'm a daily PayPal user. :)

I agree, we are the guinea pig!

It's a little like Micro$oft buying out Apple. Boy, what a dilemma for
customers.


Don...



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In article <667ke8F2i370oU1@mid.individual.net>, look@mysig.com says...
David L. Jones wrote:
Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.

Dave.

Have you ever tried talking to paypal about a dispute, let alone any
other subject?

The canned text returned answers, usually don't match the questions you
ask. Then they have the front to regularly ask for user feed back.

And I'm a daily PayPal user. :)

I agree, we are the guinea pig!

It's a little like Micro$oft buying out Apple. Boy, what a dilemma for
customers.


Don...
Consider too that Ebay also owns Skype.

They had a little buying binge a couple years ago now they have to
justify it all so you're seeing the money grab.
 
On Apr 10, 3:59 pm, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:
David L. Jones wrote:
Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.

Dave.

Have you ever tried talking to paypal about a dispute, let alone any
other subject?

The canned text returned answers, usually don't match the questions you
ask. Then they have the front to regularly ask for user feed back.

And I'm a daily PayPal user. :)

I agree, we are the guinea pig!

It's a little like Micro$oft buying out Apple. Boy, what a dilemma for
customers.

Don...

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Affiliate Program:  http://www.dontronics.com/affiliate
Site Map:            http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
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No More Damn Spam:  http://www.wizard-of-oz.com

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In sorting out my papers for tax day, I realized that I now have a
PayPal credit card. I don't recall ever asking for one.
 
Hello,

I am upset that you did not ping me Andy LOL LAMO hmm. Seems to be that
spudley has upset you again hmm?
LOL hmm have a nice day hmm. phone is isp and wallah job done. If you email
then of course they will ignore you for as long as poss.
Spudley if you still need more internet access my offer is open and I ignore
all abuse reports unless the effect me so you will be safe LOL hmm.
"Andy" <ask_for_email@here.com> wrote in message
news:an4tv3lia9bsjo802a7bek94751o0veous@4ax.com...
You two still monitoring this abortion of a group? Pls email me if so.

Cheers...
 
Joel Koltner wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:47fe88ad$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html

I think the "Why is eBay making these changes?" section is largely
disingenious. They have some valid points, but they leave out what I believe
is their largest motivator: eBay makes money from all PayPal transactions, so
making it the only way to pay (other than with cash), eBay makes *more* money.


W
ell given that Ebay owns Paypal, it's kind of obvious that they were going to do
this to channel all the funds through their e-bank.
It's not just for the commissions, it's also a drive to increase the number of
account holders.
 
David L. Jones wrote:
Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.

Dave.

Gday Fellas,

Personally I like the concept of EBAY and PAYPAL is good too but being
forced to use PP sucks big time... If I want to have PP `protection' it
is MY choice.. If I chose to pay via bank transfer without PP protection
that too is my choice..

I once made a claim on PP for a $51 (plus $10 postage) 2 Gig USB stick
that was cheap at the time (2 years or so ago) I did the right things
and bought off a seller that had 1,000s of +ve ratings etc and few negs..

I gave him a +ve rating too as it appeared to be fine... till I found
out it was really a 256meg FAKE stick that reported to be 2 Gig. I
contacted PP and they said that I had a right to a claim and I had to
return it to the seller in a `track-able' manner.. now they wont refund
postage so I get $51 ok... but they would have deducted $25 for costs so
I get $26 then ... I didnt find out what it would cost me to send a
`trackable' parcel to HK but I guess $20 so I would have got back $6
from my initial $61 I paid.. so I decided that I would keep my 256meg
(`2 gig') stick instead of a $6 refund..

Basically PP was worthless to me... maybe on a $10,000 item they may be
ok to consider but not for cheaper items

Regards,

Mik
 
On Apr 10, 6:59 pm, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:
David L. Jones wrote:
Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.

Dave.

Have you ever tried talking to paypal about a dispute, let alone any
other subject?

The canned text returned answers, usually don't match the questions you
ask. Then they have the front to regularly ask for user feed back.

And I'm a daily PayPal user. :)
I can top that. A friend who uses PayPal a lot was a victim of a scam
that emptied out her PayPal account as well as taking even more cash
out of her credit card through the PayPal account. She did find out
about it and reported it to the credit card company (and I suppose
PayPal). But the scammers were pretty bright and realized that often
people were not sharp enough to know the difference between PayPal and
them. So they sent her a request (apparently from PayPal) to fill out
an *affidavit* saying that the charge was ligit and all of the moneys
should be given *back* to the scammers. She didn't catch the jist of
the affidavit and was going to fax it out. When she had trouble with
faxing from my computer, I got in the loop and asked what this was all
about. After finding out what was going on, I clued her into the fact
that this was again the scammers and not PayPal.

Contacting PayPal about this second level of scam got very little
response. Again I got in the loop and started talking to the people
at PayPal so see what they were doing about prosecuting this
activity. The first person I spoke with told me I had the wrong
department and needed to speak with someone at a different number.
That person gave me yet a different number and so on..., until I ended
up back with the *first* person under a different title! She now
admitted that she was the right person to speak with about fraud in
the first place!!!

The bottom line was that they had ***NO*** interest in reporting this
criminal activity to the police. The way PayPal works they almost
*always* get their money back or the victims get no money back.
Either way it costs PayPal nothing. As far as PayPal seems to be
concerned, reporting criminal activity on PayPal only serves to create
negative impressions about PayPal. So clearly they are not motivated
to help victims other than getting the funds back if they are still
available. If the funds had been transferred and their bank account
had been emptied out, I am sure that my friend would not have gotten a
cent back!

To me, the bottom line is that PayPal has a disincentive to publicize
any criminal activity on their service. So you can't believe any data
they give you showing that their service protects you.

All that said, I would never buy anything on eBay without using a
credit card. PayPal being in the middle does not bother me too much,
but I want to say it doesn't cost the seller anything. But others
have told me different, that they have to pay something like 2% no
matter what. I thought you could get the funds transferred into your
bank account for free. No?
 
David L. Jones wrote:
Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.
That is FUCKED.

They've been pushing Paypal really hard in recent months, i.e when you
win an auction, in recent months you go through the checkout and the
first method that comes up is Paypal, they kind of make it look as
though it is the only option, due to the layout they've used...

This is fucked - I think there will be a big backlash over this.
Paypal isnt always that good a method to use.

And WTF is the go with that Simon guy? He looks like a fucking freak.

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sky465nm@trline4.org wrote:
Basically PP was worthless to me... maybe on a $10,000 item they may be
ok to consider but not for cheaper items

But now you can be 'confident' that eBay will screw you and line their pockets
in the process.

Ok, so any bets what phenomen that will screw eBay in the long run ..?
Price hike doesn't seem like a lasting strategy.
Hopefully that's exactly what will happen.

Sooner or later eBay is going to really start screwing both buyers and
sellers to the point that there will be another auction startup on the
scene - by that I mean a decent one, with good backing behind it.

So in a way, perhaps the sooner eBay starts really screwing their
customers, the better.

It is never good when you have something like eBay who has no real
competition.

It is a pity that Sold.com.au went down the gurgler, because it wasn't
all that bad really.


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kreed wrote:
On Apr 13, 1:53 pm, Jeßus <power_slid...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
David L. Jones wrote:
Primarily of interest to Australian Ebayers:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/useprotection/changes.html
But what's the bet we are the trial, and other countries will follow.
That is FUCKED.

They've been pushing Paypal really hard in recent months, i.e when you
win an auction, in recent months you go through the checkout and the
first method that comes up is Paypal, they kind of make it look as
though it is the only option, due to the layout they've used...

This is fucked - I think there will be a big backlash over this.
Paypal isnt always that good a method to use.

And WTF is the go with that Simon guy? He looks like a fucking freak.

--http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/rooftops.jpg

That pic hosting website is rubbish, and shows a message "not to link
to it"
Been told that before, and every time I check for myself - it works.

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