PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

The two simplest ways are optical and microwave. Optical is cheap and
simple. Microwave is a bit more expensive , but also reasonably simple.
The best method for optical, assuming you are using this for test
firing, and not 'live', is to use a dark box or tube with a pair of
linear sensors placed about 1m apart, depending upon needs/space etc.
Illuminate these with a collimated laser set to give an elongated beam
aligned along the sensor array. Configure the sensors at each end in an
OR arrangement such that any sensor losing the signal causes a pulse
output. Then simply measure the two edges using a micro. The faster the
micro the better the resolution, and more accurate the measurement. With
a muzzle velocity of 1600m/s and a spacing of 1m the time between pulses
will be 625usecs. An 8MHz clock would give you 5000 clock pulses. 4999
clocks would be equivalent to 1600.32m/s, while 5001 would be 1599.68.

Alternatively 24GHz DROs can be had quite cheaply, and a 26dB gain horn
is reasonably simple to construct. simply align the DCO and its
recording circuitry alongside the muzzle, and aimed in the same
direction. The doppler frequency gives the velocity quite accurately.
Thsi has the added advantage of being useful for 'live' firing. You
might even get away with one of the cheap 10GHz DROs with patch antennas.

Al

Fat Crack Ho wrote:
I'm toying with the idea of building a chronometer for measuring bullet speed.
Just want to get some opinions on the best type of sensors to use.

My basic idea was to have two sensors a fixed distance apart (1m for arguments
sake). When the bullet pass through the first sensor, zero a timer. When it
pass the second sensor, read the timer, work out speed.

thanks.
 
"Alan Peake" <adpeake@nospam.internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:adpeake.120.001C14F3@nospam.internode.on.net...

.... snip ...

Well, well, the people you meet 'round here!

Ian.
 
In article <pl0plv4q95chbol677t7887e021icbs6nr@4ax.com>, mike_harding1
@hotmail.com says...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:21:25 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1uoolv41f2stqerdvlma3hs5gcc92haef1@4ax.com...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:39:28 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


Eg. WW2 Spitfires etc used 8 x Browning 303 cal machine guns with
3000fps mussel velocity, all harmonised to converge at 200 yards or
^^^^^^
??

I want to know what Phil has against shellfish?

[snip]

** That begs the question - what planet are you on Mike ?

Everyone here would like to know.

A different one to you Phil, I suspect :)

Mike Harding
Chris.
 
On 10/09/2003 1:00 PM, Chris Hoffmann wrote:

In article <pl0plv4q95chbol677t7887e021icbs6nr@4ax.com>, mike_harding1
@hotmail.com says...

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:21:25 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1uoolv41f2stqerdvlma3hs5gcc92haef1@4ax.com...

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:39:28 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Eg. WW2 Spitfires etc used 8 x Browning 303 cal machine guns with

3000fps mussel velocity, all harmonised to converge at 200 yards or

^^^^^^
??

I want to know what Phil has against shellfish?

[snip]
I thought it was just me that had a mental picture of molluscs flying
through the air at breakneck speeds.

--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 05:00:14 GMT, Chris Hoffmann <a@b.c> wrote:

In article <pl0plv4q95chbol677t7887e021icbs6nr@4ax.com>, mike_harding1
@hotmail.com says...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:21:25 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1uoolv41f2stqerdvlma3hs5gcc92haef1@4ax.com...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:39:28 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


Eg. WW2 Spitfires etc used 8 x Browning 303 cal machine guns with
3000fps mussel velocity, all harmonised to converge at 200 yards or
^^^^^^
??

I want to know what Phil has against shellfish?
There's nothing more dangerous than a wounded mussel :)
(With apologies to Bruce)

Mike Harding
 
"Chris Hoffmann" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:MPG.19c95ae6cb04e694989689@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
In article <pl0plv4q95chbol677t7887e021icbs6nr@4ax.com>, mike_harding1
@hotmail.com says...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:21:25 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1uoolv41f2stqerdvlma3hs5gcc92haef1@4ax.com...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:39:28 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


Eg. WW2 Spitfires etc used 8 x Browning 303 cal machine guns with
3000fps mussel velocity, all harmonised to converge at 200 yards or
^^^^^^
??

I want to know what Phil has against shellfish?
Only very fast ones.
 
"Chris Hoffmann" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:MPG.19c95ae6cb04e694989689@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

I want to know what Phil has against shellfish?

** Ask the Microsoft spellchecker - it has some weird ideas.



........... Phil
 
Fat Crack Ho wrote:

I'm toying with the idea of building a chronometer for measuring bullet
speed. Just want to get some opinions on the best type of sensors to use.

My basic idea was to have two sensors a fixed distance apart (1m for
arguments
sake). When the bullet pass through the first sensor, zero a timer. When
it pass the second sensor, read the timer, work out speed.

thanks.


What about a metre long box with parallel pairs of vertical strip
mirrors at each end (out of copiers). You get a cheap laser pointer beam
to bounce back and forth between the mirrors at an angle close to 90 deg
so that there is a good chance of the bullet interupting the beam and use
a set at each end to stop and start the timer.
 
Just want to find the best place to get an old pool pump. I need the pump body
to connect to a BLDC motor so I can load the motor.

thanks.
 
How much load do you need? Could you just hook it up to a car altenator with
a big load on the altenator??


"Fat Crack Ho" <s363281@student.uq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:bk8smj$1tj$1@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au...
Just want to find the best place to get an old pool pump. I need the pump
body
to connect to a BLDC motor so I can load the motor.

thanks.
 
I'm having a bit of trouble getting a motor to freewheel. If I turn off all six
fets while the motor is running at full speed, the motor just locks up. I have
to reset the controller to get it to operate again. The controller and motor
are operated from separate supplies, so I can't see why the controller would
drop out.

Any ideas?

thanks.
 
Fat Crack Ho wrote:
I'm having a bit of trouble getting a motor to freewheel. If I turn off all six
fets while the motor is running at full speed, the motor just locks up. I have
to reset the controller to get it to operate again. The controller and motor
are operated from separate supplies, so I can't see why the controller would
drop out.

Any ideas?

thanks.
Can you post the schematic of the motor controller to alt.binaries.electronic.schematic

--

David
 
dmmilne@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Fat Crack Ho wrote:

I'm having a bit of trouble getting a motor to freewheel. If I turn off all six
fets while the motor is running at full speed, the motor just locks up. I have
to reset the controller to get it to operate again. The controller and motor
are operated from separate supplies, so I can't see why the controller would
drop out.

Any ideas?

thanks.

Can you post the schematic of the motor controller to alt.binaries.electronic.schematic
oops, wrong ng.

alt.binaries.schematics.electronic

--

Regards
David Milne
 
I'm thinking free wheeling diodes perhaps, but then again.....What are you
using for snubbing, or have you not followed the advice from previous
posts??



<dmmilne@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:3F711054.42BDBA1C@ozemail.com.au...
dmmilne@ozemail.com.au wrote:

Fat Crack Ho wrote:

I'm having a bit of trouble getting a motor to freewheel. If I turn
off all six
fets while the motor is running at full speed, the motor just locks
up. I have
to reset the controller to get it to operate again. The controller
and motor
are operated from separate supplies, so I can't see why the controller
would
drop out.

Any ideas?

thanks.

Can you post the schematic of the motor controller to
alt.binaries.electronic.schematic


oops, wrong ng.

alt.binaries.schematics.electronic

--

Regards
David Milne
 
HelloGroup,

I have a problem with excessive heat from a 7812 regulator in a
circuit that supplies 28vdc to that reg., which inturn supplies a PWM
driving a 6 volt DC motor.
Lack of room and cost preclude me from using a multitap transformer, so I am
stuck with using the 24vac plug pack as the PSU
Is there any efficient way that I can reduce the voltage to the 7812?
Can I use another component to reduce the voltage to 12V?

Harry Harms
 
"HH" <hh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xjSdb.128839$bo1.54585@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
HelloGroup,

I have a problem with excessive heat from a 7812 regulator in a
circuit that supplies 28vdc to that reg., which inturn supplies a PWM
driving a 6 volt DC motor.
Lack of room and cost preclude me from using a multitap transformer, so I
am
stuck with using the 24vac plug pack as the PSU
Is there any efficient way that I can reduce the voltage to the 7812?
Can I use another component to reduce the voltage to 12V?
If you want to reduce heat, you need to increase effeciency. You have but
one choice, switched mode power supply. Linear regulators are very
inefficient. Loose the 7812.
 
"HH" <hh@hotmail.com>

HelloGroup,

I have a problem with excessive heat from a 7812 regulator in a
circuit that supplies 28vdc to that reg., which inturn supplies a PWM
driving a 6 volt DC motor.
Lack of room and cost preclude me from using a multitap transformer, so I
am
stuck with using the 24vac plug pack as the PSU
Is there any efficient way that I can reduce the voltage to the 7812?
Can I use another component to reduce the voltage to 12V?

** Use an inductor to feed the first filter cap after the bridge
rectifier.

Should drop the voltage to around 18 volts.




............. Phil
 
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:46:21 GMT, "HH" <hh@hotmail.com> wrote:

HelloGroup,

I have a problem with excessive heat from a 7812 regulator in a
circuit that supplies 28vdc to that reg., which inturn supplies a PWM
driving a 6 volt DC motor.
Lack of room and cost preclude me from using a multitap transformer, so I am
stuck with using the 24vac plug pack as the PSU
Is there any efficient way that I can reduce the voltage to the 7812?
A different plug-pack with lower voltage.

Can I use another component to reduce the voltage to 12V?
As above
 
I have only one word for you: PT78T112V

Rob
VK3XVK



HH wrote:
HelloGroup,

I have a problem with excessive heat from a 7812 regulator in a
circuit that supplies 28vdc to that reg., which inturn supplies a PWM
driving a 6 volt DC motor.
Lack of room and cost preclude me from using a multitap transformer, so I am
stuck with using the 24vac plug pack as the PSU
Is there any efficient way that I can reduce the voltage to the 7812?
Can I use another component to reduce the voltage to 12V?

Harry Harms
 
Any reason you can't modify the PWM circuit to handle 28V in?
Pulses of 28V are unlikely to hurt your motor as long as the
average current isn't too high.
 

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