PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[budgie]

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:30:53 +1000, Terry Collins <terryc@woa.com.au>
wrote:

I have two old laptops with cactus batteries. Both batteries are 12V,
but I need to put something like 18Volts into the side socket to make
the laptop run. I have previously tried connecting the SLA battery
directory to what I thought were the positive and negative terminals in
the battery compartment, but the laptop I tested would not run.

Is there a standard for the pin-out of power sockets on laptops

Unfortunately, no. In fact, some makes - such as Toshiba - seem to
change it as often as their models.

However, I wouldn't give up hope without a fight.

I had this problem with an Acer with a six-pin battery interface, and
which took both NiMH and Li-Ion types. I wanted to burgle the system,
just as you do. So I googled the cactus part# (eg BPT-X31) and found
a site with cross-reference listings for more battery pack types than
you've had hot dinners. Then I searched the page and found that the
same battery fitted a TI Extensa and an IBM Stinkpad. Chased those
model numbers and found a complete tech manual (over 100 pages - a big
..pdf download) which included the battery pinout info.

Worth a try, as many lappies are rebadges and this increases the
chance of finding such info published.

 

[dsmith]

Thanks for that info.

I have just found out that somebody has added an extra diode (qty 5)

and the 390ohm 1w has been replaced by two 820ohm 1/2w

I just got the measurements over the net.

+18.4v on the base.

+18.0 on the emitter

It looks like some special mod, to increase the performance of the keying
and voicing on the great and solo keyboards.

Cheers

DS

"Eric" <some1@clear.net.nz> wrote in message news:3f524dec$1@clear.net.nz...

What's the volts on the 2N3055 base?
It should be 14.2 volts = 12V + (4*0.6 Volts), Emitter should be about
13.6
Volts.

"dsmith" <ds@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3f51d578@news.comindico.com.au...
: I am looking at a circuit it is some kind of regulator in an organ
dating
: back to 1971 - wow!
:
: The transistor is a 2N3055; 25v+ on the collector, the base is fed from
the
: 25v+ through a 390ohm 1 watt resistor, decoupled by a 2000mf electro to
: ground.
: The bias is set by four silicon diodes connected from the base to the
: 12volt+ line.
: The output from the emitter I would expect to be about 14volts +.
: The organ is not in my locale, so I can't check it. The owner says he is
: getting 17v+ from the emitter, doesn't sound right to me; any thoughts
:
:
:

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:44 +1000, Mike Harding
<mike_harding1@hotmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:25:08 +1000, "Jon" <gremlin@fastmail.fm> wrote:

You know half of you couldnt even take the criticism if you were to be an
editor.

Most of us who are regular contributors to the newsgroups
are frequently criticised by others, often in a _very_ hostile
and abusive manner - the fact that we continue to post
suggests we are well able to deal with criticism. In this case
it seems Leo is unwilling to debate with the people he
criticises - just throw rocks from afar.

Mike Harding

How does one conduct a civilised debate with people who use
profanities like punctuation? I certainly don't blame Leo for not
wanting to join these scumbags in the gutter. My congratulations to
him on an excellent editorial.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:18:06 +0930, Trevor Matthews
<suetrevm@ozemail.com.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:

does anyone out there who subscribes to SC have their September copy yet?

Mine arrived towards the end of last week. I would have gotten it a
day earlier but the stupid postwoman deemed that it was a parcel and
forced me to pick it up from the post office.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:5c06lvgh1alelbo3m7j8fhtn7rl7bo8105@4ax.com...

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:44 +1000, Mike Harding
mike_harding1@hotmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:25:08 +1000, "Jon" <gremlin@fastmail.fm> wrote:

You know half of you couldnt even take the criticism if you were to be
an
editor.

Most of us who are regular contributors to the newsgroups
are frequently criticised by others, often in a _very_ hostile
and abusive manner - the fact that we continue to post
suggests we are well able to deal with criticism. In this case
it seems Leo is unwilling to debate with the people he
criticises - just throw rocks from afar.

Mike Harding


How does one conduct a civilised debate with people who use
profanities like punctuation?

** Dealing with pig arrogant arseholes like you Frank makes that entirely
approriate.

I certainly don't blame Leo for not wanting to join these scumbags in the
gutter.

** Leo would get instantly crucified on a NG.

My congratulations to him on an excellent editorial.

** It is a pile of drivel.

Same as your opinions.




................. Phil

 

[Mike Harding]

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:44:46 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:5c06lvgh1alelbo3m7j8fhtn7rl7bo8105@4ax.com...
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:44 +1000, Mike Harding
mike_harding1@hotmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:25:08 +1000, "Jon" <gremlin@fastmail.fm> wrote:

You know half of you couldnt even take the criticism if you were to be
an
editor.

Most of us who are regular contributors to the newsgroups
are frequently criticised by others, often in a _very_ hostile
and abusive manner - the fact that we continue to post
suggests we are well able to deal with criticism. In this case
it seems Leo is unwilling to debate with the people he
criticises - just throw rocks from afar.

Mike Harding


How does one conduct a civilised debate with people who use
profanities like punctuation?


** Dealing with pig arrogant arseholes like you Frank makes that entirely
approriate.



I certainly don't blame Leo for not wanting to join these scumbags in the
gutter.



** Leo would get instantly crucified on a NG.



My congratulations to him on an excellent editorial.



** It is a pile of drivel.

Same as your opinions.

Unfortunately, Phil, you do tend to underline Franks point.
But... hell.. you're just one maladjusted moron - there are
a great many normal, knowledgeable, polite and helpful
people on the newsgroups who more than make up for
the likes of you.

You and you're ilk are the price we have to pay for such
a useful service. And, occasionally, even you contribute
something useful.

Mike Harding

 

[David L. Jones]

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:17:06 +1000, Rod <spam@rohwedder.com.au> wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:52:09 +1000, "Joug Kim" <xyz@zyx> wrote:

Assume that we have a coil (with following specs) vertically placed on a
wooden table.

Coil : 100 windings, radius of 50mm, current passing through 50mA

I want to measure magnetic field strength at various points around the coil.
The max distance for the measurement is 1meter. How can I do this
measurement?

Have you had a look for "Hall Effect Transducers" like the ones in
"Brushless DC motors" used in fans/ Disc drives and the like?

Either Jaycar or Tricky Dicks have a multimeter which measures field
strength, don't know if it's suitable though.

Dave
---------------------------
(remove the "_" from my email address to reply)

 

[Russ]

"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e036lv8b8m3631srn2le0kllv8fnsl8tvd@4ax.com...

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:44:46 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:5c06lvgh1alelbo3m7j8fhtn7rl7bo8105@4ax.com...
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:44 +1000, Mike Harding
mike_harding1@hotmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:25:08 +1000, "Jon" <gremlin@fastmail.fm> wrote:

You know half of you couldnt even take the criticism if you were to
be
an
editor.

Most of us who are regular contributors to the newsgroups
are frequently criticised by others, often in a _very_ hostile
and abusive manner - the fact that we continue to post
suggests we are well able to deal with criticism. In this case
it seems Leo is unwilling to debate with the people he
criticises - just throw rocks from afar.

Mike Harding


How does one conduct a civilised debate with people who use
profanities like punctuation?


** Dealing with pig arrogant arseholes like you Frank makes that
entirely
approriate.



I certainly don't blame Leo for not wanting to join these scumbags in
the
gutter.



** Leo would get instantly crucified on a NG.



My congratulations to him on an excellent editorial.



** It is a pile of drivel.

Same as your opinions.

Unfortunately, Phil, you do tend to underline Franks point.
But... hell.. you're just one maladjusted moron - there are
a great many normal, knowledgeable, polite and helpful
people on the newsgroups who more than make up for
the likes of you.

You and you're ilk are the price we have to pay for such
a useful service. And, occasionally, even you contribute
something useful.

But it is a hell of a price, and I think it was the crux of Leo's editorial,
if not expressed as such. The benefit - to all involved- of intelligent
discussion and rigorous debate is immense, but when a few individuals throw
in such powerfully negative and personal comments, in an almost psychopathic
manner, their influence dominates the otherwise constructive and beneficial
discussion.

By psychopath, I mean someone who routinely violates otherwise socially
accepted norms. Psychopathy a very broad and poorly defined characteristic.
To quote one analysis, a psychopath may exhibit:

Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Need for stimulation, with a proneness to boredom
Pathological lying
No sense of remorse or guilt
A very shallow emotional affect - they display emotions they don't really
feel
A lack of empathy for others
They are parasitic - they live off of others
They are impulsive, and show poor control over their behaviours
They are impulsive, and irresponsible
They do not accept responsibility for their actions - another caused it

The Internet, and specifically unmoderated newsgroups, is by its nature a
forum that allows such people to engage with others in their chosen mode of
behaviour. Despite the fact that statistically, they make up a small portion
of society, their influence can be immensely damaging.

Those of us with experience have grown thicker skins have learnt to deal
with their comments (or killfile them), indeed, we ignore the invectives
and learn to enjoy the few moment when despite the immense weight of their
socially dysfunctional personality, they make positive contributions.

Others, however, who could otherwise contribute an immense amount of
knowledge, experience and humour to the discussion, are repelled by the
often shockingly violent vitriol and invective of these social malcontents.

I think Leo Simpson, who must be given credit for producing Silicon Chip - a
magazine that strives to serve the needs of a dwindling market - was comment
ating on this sad state of affairs. He, for personal, or professional
reasons, chooses not to engage in discussion on this newsgroup, perhaps
partly because of the insupportable behaviour of a few individuals; and I'd
imagine he is frustrated by the lost opportunity to support an area in which
he has clearly invested a great deal of his life and personal passion.

Russ.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Russ" <russell@thehovel.net> wrote in message
news:bivm8t$dor8t$1@ID-192123.news.uni-berlin.de...


( snip huge amout of Russ's posturing shite)

I think Leo Simpson, who must be given credit for producing Silicon Chip

** I think credit was ionvolved.


- a magazine that strives to serve the needs of a dwindling market


** That *is* funny.


- was commentating on this sad state of affairs.


** Sure is sad - but until NGs are regulated it will not change.

He, for personal, or professional reasons, chooses not to engage in
discussion on this newsgroup,

** He would get eaten alive and he knows it.

perhaps partly because of the insupportable behaviour of a few
individuals;

** More posturing drivel.

and I'd imagine he is frustrated by the lost opportunity to support an
area in which
he has clearly invested a great deal of his life and personal passion.

** What ? Leo give his time for nothing to help anyone ????

You are an even bigger idiot than I first thought.





............ Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

"Russ" <russell@thehovel.net> wrote in message news:bivm8t$dor8t$1@ID-192123.news.uni-berlin.de...

"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e036lv8b8m3631srn2le0kllv8fnsl8tvd@4ax.com...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:44:46 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:5c06lvgh1alelbo3m7j8fhtn7rl7bo8105@4ax.com...
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:44 +1000, Mike Harding
mike_harding1@hotmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:25:08 +1000, "Jon" <gremlin@fastmail.fm> wrote:

You know half of you couldnt even take the criticism if you were to
be
an
editor.

Most of us who are regular contributors to the newsgroups
are frequently criticised by others, often in a _very_ hostile
and abusive manner - the fact that we continue to post
suggests we are well able to deal with criticism. In this case
it seems Leo is unwilling to debate with the people he
criticises - just throw rocks from afar.

Mike Harding


How does one conduct a civilised debate with people who use
profanities like punctuation?


** Dealing with pig arrogant arseholes like you Frank makes that
entirely
approriate.



I certainly don't blame Leo for not wanting to join these scumbags in
the
gutter.



** Leo would get instantly crucified on a NG.



My congratulations to him on an excellent editorial.



** It is a pile of drivel.

Same as your opinions.

Unfortunately, Phil, you do tend to underline Franks point.
But... hell.. you're just one maladjusted moron - there are
a great many normal, knowledgeable, polite and helpful
people on the newsgroups who more than make up for
the likes of you.

You and you're ilk are the price we have to pay for such
a useful service. And, occasionally, even you contribute
something useful.

But it is a hell of a price,

Crap.

and I think it was the crux of Leo's editorial, if not expressed as such.

He's always welcome to cut off his nose despite his face
by sticking to the dinosaur platforms that are way past their
useby date, with all the obvious deficiencys those will always
have, most obviously with timely flow of information.

The benefit - to all involved- of intelligent
discussion and rigorous debate is immense,

Yes, and many of us have worked out how to operate in a situation
where there can be some downsides on the detail of how a particular
forum operates, just like we have with other ones like the pub etc.

but when a few individuals throw in such powerfully negative and
personal comments, in an almost psychopathic manner, their influence
dominates the otherwise constructive and beneficial discussion.

Only with the pathetic fools who cant manage
to operate effectively in any environment.

By psychopath, I mean someone who routinely
violates otherwise socially accepted norms.

Thats not what that word means. It isnt
even what the word sociopath means either.

Psychopathy a very broad and poorly defined characteristic.
To quote one analysis, a psychopath may exhibit:

Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Need for stimulation, with a proneness to boredom
Pathological lying
No sense of remorse or guilt
A very shallow emotional affect - they display emotions they don't really feel
A lack of empathy for others
They are parasitic - they live off of others
They are impulsive, and show poor control over their behaviours
They are impulsive, and irresponsible
They do not accept responsibility for their actions - another caused it

Mindless stuff as far as style in newsgroup postings are concerned.
Psychopathy involves a lot more than JUST those particular characteristics.

The Internet, and specifically unmoderated newsgroups,
is by its nature a forum that allows such people to
engage with others in their chosen mode of behaviour.

Yes, its as close to pure anarchy as someone
like you is ever likely to come across.

BUT has the massive advantage that you're always
welcome to just ignore stuff you dont care to read.

Despite the fact that statistically, they make up a small portion
of society, their influence can be immensely damaging.

Bullshit. Only a fool gets 'damaged' by that sort of style stuff.

Those of us with experience have grown thicker skins have learnt to deal
with their comments (or killfile them), indeed, we ignore the invectives
and learn to enjoy the few moment when despite the immense weight of
their socially dysfunctional personality, they make positive contributions.

Just as true of a great raft of other real world situations,
most obviously with very small business which also tends
to attract some pretty gung ho characters who do often know
what they are doing and who can be pretty blunt at times too.

Thats life. Life would be very boring indeed if we were all into
cucumber sandwitches and impeccible politeness at all times.

Others, however, who could otherwise contribute an immense amount of
knowledge, experience and humour to the discussion, are repelled by the
often shockingly violent vitriol and invective of these social malcontents.

Sure, some are certainly that stupid.

Just like in any particular environment, anyone with a clue works out
how to operate effectively in it. Some cant manage that ? Their problem.

I think Leo Simpson, who must be given credit for producing Silicon Chip

Sure.

- a magazine that strives to serve the needs of a dwindling
market - was commentating on this sad state of affairs.

Nothing 'sad' about it for anyone with a clue.

He, for personal, or professional reasons, chooses
not to engage in discussion on this newsgroup,

Yep, he prefers to snipe from the editorial page instead.

Nothing new about that particular approach, some prefer it.

perhaps partly because of the insupportable behaviour of a few individuals;

Or perhaps he prefers to snipe with impunity.

and I'd imagine he is frustrated by the lost opportunity to support an area in
which he has clearly invested a great deal of his life and personal passion.

Sure, but thats just as true of the particular format he has chosen to
get involved in now that its passed its useby date so comprehensively.

There's a reason that its one of the few survivors, for now.

And it wouldnt be very surprising if he makes snide remarks
about what is replacing whats passed its useby date too.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message news:<5c06lvgh1alelbo3m7j8fhtn7rl7bo8105@4ax.com>...

How does one conduct a civilised debate with people who use
profanities like punctuation?

Since you've worked that out quite well, perhaps if we write a
'reader' macro that transforms profanities into punctuation all will
be well. When one uses profanities excessively they tend to lose their
effect.

I certainly don't blame Leo for not wanting to join these scumbags in the
gutter.

You don't join them in the gutter by talking to them. You join them by
lowering yourself to their language level, but then again, if they
don't understand English, speaking to them in their own language would
be considered courteous.

My congratulations to him on an excellent editorial.

I still think he is not helping to improve this group at all. He
SHOULD contribute. Yes, it is easy to get flamed by a select few, but
they have to read your contribution before they can flame it, hence
you should feel content that you have not been ignored, at the least
(Hey that's better job satisfaction than writing an editorial in a
magazine!)

- Franc Zabkar

Mark

 

[Mike Harding]

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 00:49:19 +1000, "Russ" <russell@thehovel.net>
wrote:

Unfortunately, Phil, you do tend to underline Franks point.
But... hell.. you're just one maladjusted moron - there are
a great many normal, knowledgeable, polite and helpful
people on the newsgroups who more than make up for
the likes of you.

You and you're ilk are the price we have to pay for such
a useful service. And, occasionally, even you contribute
something useful.

But it is a hell of a price, and I think it was the crux of Leo's editorial,
if not expressed as such. The benefit - to all involved- of intelligent
discussion and rigorous debate is immense, but when a few individuals throw
in such powerfully negative and personal comments, in an almost psychopathic
manner, their influence dominates the otherwise constructive and beneficial
discussion.

It's quite true that Phil is, generally, very disruptive and
almost certainly is suffering form a psychiatric disorder
but I'm afraid the newsgroups will always be a magnet
for such people and we just have to deal with them in
the best way possible - just as we do in everyday life.
At least by venting his rage here he is probably less
danger to the public at large - can you imaging all that
anger without any outlet?!

By psychopath, I mean someone who routinely violates otherwise socially
accepted norms. Psychopathy a very broad and poorly defined characteristic.

Generally referred to as a "sociopath" these days. Yes,
he may well be, but in reality these people usually exhibit
symptoms from a range of disorders, there is a lot of
the bullying personality type in Phil and that's often an
indication of very low self esteem - doesn't matter too
much what the label is; he's a loon for sure.

The Internet, and specifically unmoderated newsgroups, is by its nature a
forum that allows such people to engage with others in their chosen mode of
behaviour. Despite the fact that statistically, they make up a small portion
of society, their influence can be immensely damaging.

Only if we let it be. eg. I rarely engage in extended threads
with the loons these days (although I did have a little play
with Rod Speed recently and if they don't have the fuel
of attention they get bored or fade into obscurity, so ignoring
them is probably a good idea (unless they're being sensible)
which is exactly what I shall do with Phil in this thread - he can
respond all he wants but I'll not reply to him.

Those of us with experience have grown thicker skins have learnt to deal
with their comments (or killfile them), indeed, we ignore the invectives
and learn to enjoy the few moment when despite the immense weight of their
socially dysfunctional personality, they make positive contributions.

Indeed. And the shame is that both Rod and Phil are very
knowledgeable in their areas and can make very useful
contributions when they choose to.

Others, however, who could otherwise contribute an immense amount of
knowledge, experience and humour to the discussion, are repelled by the
often shockingly violent vitriol and invective of these social malcontents.

True and there is really no answer to that - perhaps we should
post a monthly FAQ advising people of the loons and how
to killfile them?

I think Leo Simpson, who must be given credit for producing Silicon Chip

I imagined he was given a salary for that. I'm not convinced
credit is due as well.

He, for personal, or professional
reasons, chooses not to engage in discussion on this newsgroup, perhaps
partly because of the insupportable behaviour of a few individuals;

Rather cowardly. I think, to criticise from afar a medium which
he can readily access but is unwilling to post his views to. But,
as I said in an earlier post, I think the free access the net gives
to all us plebs to state our views and respond publicly without
censorship (where else can you do that to a mass audience
in Oz?) is frightening the life out of media people and politicians.

and I'd
imagine he is frustrated by the lost opportunity to support an area in which
he has clearly invested a great deal of his life and personal passion.

Keep in mind that the net is probably a significant threat to the
likes of such magazines - what can they offer that a few minutes
with Google won't turn up?

Mike Harding

 

[Richard Freeman]

"Troy Lane" <t_lane@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:0NK4b.2209$mG4.214@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

Everything you need in consumer electronics

Bullshit there are no Parts listed on your website .....


........for LESS!

http://www.fastlanedistributors.com

And why post to Aus.Electronics if : This store does not accept shoppers in
your region. - to quote from your website you Spamming piece of filth

 

[Phil Allison]

"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:28g7lvg6ql16fo1b92j5tf8fsu4b7ebqq9@4ax.com...

It's quite true that Phil is, generally, very disruptive and
almost certainly is suffering form a psychiatric disorder

** What does posting personal abuse constitute - Mike ????

You CONSTANTLY do to me what you claim I do - you stinking
hypoctite.

Plus you are a gutless wonder doing it as an anonymous person.

The low life sociopath is YOU !!!

I think Leo Simpson, who must be given credit for producing Silicon Chip

I imagined he was given a salary for that. I'm not convinced
credit is due as well.

** Huh ?? The guy is the *owner* of SC Publicatons - a business he
and Greg Swain set up after they resigned in protest from Electronics
Australia.





............ Phil

 

[Tony Pearce]

"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:28g7lvg6ql16fo1b92j5tf8fsu4b7ebqq9@4ax.com...

Rather cowardly. I think, to criticise from afar a medium which
he can readily access but is unwilling to post his views to.

He's very lucky to get paid for it too.

But,

as I said in an earlier post, I think the free access the net gives
to all us plebs to state our views and respond publicly without
censorship (where else can you do that to a mass audience
in Oz?) is frightening the life out of media people and politicians.

No, it gives the public a distraction while the pollies do as they like
still.
And people still believe John Laws! :-(

Keep in mind that the net is probably a significant threat to the
likes of such magazines - what can they offer that a few minutes
with Google won't turn up?

Something to read on the bus/toot/bed

TonyP.

 

[Arpit]

On 27 Aug 2003 15:35:41 -0700, mvandere@iprimus.com.au (Mark van der
Eynden) wrote:

The Silicon Chip Editorial for September has some comments about
aus.electronics and aus.hifi that could not be described as 'kind'.

Oh come on, its worth a laugh. I laughed my head off when I saw that,
thinking, wow, heres a guy whose too scared to say anything here, but
whines in a publication he controls, heheehheheheehehhehhehe.

AAAAAAAAAAANnnyway, I often find the editorials a little annoying, but
its mainly because he writes them to raise controversy, and I just
cant be bothered to reply. I noticed a lot of people in the mag are
talking about the UV from halogen downlights. I thought most of the
harmful uv was absorbed by the glass protective covering.......

 

[Unbeliever]

"Troy Lane" <t_lane@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:0NK4b.2209$mG4.214@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

Everything you need in consumer electronics.......for LESS!
http://www.fastlanedistributors.com


Aren't people who spam Australian newsgroups like aus.electronics, but don't

ship to Australia frustrating. I have a couple of short planks that aren't
as thick as this guy!

Alf
alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org
www.micromagic.net.au

 

[Russ]

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
newskk8lv0j1mjla7l0s5a1rmjjpku874hiis@4ax.com...

On 27 Aug 2003 15:35:41 -0700, mvandere@iprimus.com.au (Mark van der
Eynden) wrote:

The Silicon Chip Editorial for September has some comments about
aus.electronics and aus.hifi that could not be described as 'kind'.

Oh come on, its worth a laugh. I laughed my head off when I saw that,
thinking, wow, heres a guy whose too scared to say anything here, but
whines in a publication he controls, heheehheheheehehhehhehe.

AAAAAAAAAAANnnyway, I often find the editorials a little annoying, but
its mainly because he writes them to raise controversy, and I just
cant be bothered to reply. I noticed a lot of people in the mag are
talking about the UV from halogen downlights. I thought most of the
harmful uv was absorbed by the glass protective covering.......

I think it's the old facts and a good story thing. The limited knowledge
expressed in that magazine is remarkable sometimes, but if you consider
there are only probably 2 or 3 people putting it together, you an see why
they often seem a little naive with respect to certain topics.

The UV radiation issue is old news, and glass covers - either integral to
the bulb or fitted to the unit have been a standard feature for a long time.
It would have made a lot more sense for Silicon Chip to educate the readers
on the use of glass covers, and perhaps provide some advice on when they are
needed.

It appears they seem happier to lumber about with this great chip on their
shoulder about the endless horrors of the Evil Halogen. If you don't like
'em that's your choice, go put in those horrid CFLs and enjoy the maddening
buzz and sickening diffusion of their utterly unpleasant light (some might
guess at this point that I am not a strong supporter of fluorescents).

Russ.

 

[Arpit]

Yeah, I remember reading in that magazine about how leds were a more
efficient light source than anything else.... sigh.



On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 20:08:24 +1000, "Russ" <russell@thehovel.net>
wrote:

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
newskk8lv0j1mjla7l0s5a1rmjjpku874hiis@4ax.com...
On 27 Aug 2003 15:35:41 -0700, mvandere@iprimus.com.au (Mark van der
Eynden) wrote:

The Silicon Chip Editorial for September has some comments about
aus.electronics and aus.hifi that could not be described as 'kind'.

Oh come on, its worth a laugh. I laughed my head off when I saw that,
thinking, wow, heres a guy whose too scared to say anything here, but
whines in a publication he controls, heheehheheheehehhehhehe.

AAAAAAAAAAANnnyway, I often find the editorials a little annoying, but
its mainly because he writes them to raise controversy, and I just
cant be bothered to reply. I noticed a lot of people in the mag are
talking about the UV from halogen downlights. I thought most of the
harmful uv was absorbed by the glass protective covering.......

I think it's the old facts and a good story thing. The limited knowledge
expressed in that magazine is remarkable sometimes, but if you consider
there are only probably 2 or 3 people putting it together, you an see why
they often seem a little naive with respect to certain topics.

The UV radiation issue is old news, and glass covers - either integral to
the bulb or fitted to the unit have been a standard feature for a long time.
It would have made a lot more sense for Silicon Chip to educate the readers
on the use of glass covers, and perhaps provide some advice on when they are
needed.

It appears they seem happier to lumber about with this great chip on their
shoulder about the endless horrors of the Evil Halogen. If you don't like
'em that's your choice, go put in those horrid CFLs and enjoy the maddening
buzz and sickening diffusion of their utterly unpleasant light (some might
guess at this point that I am not a strong supporter of fluorescents).

Russ.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

"Russ" <russell@thehovel.net> wrote in message news:<bj1q66$edfh5$1@ID-192123.news.uni-berlin.de>...

The UV radiation issue is old news, and glass covers - either integral to
the bulb or fitted to the unit have been a standard feature for a long time.

Integral to the bulb? Not possible if I understand the theory of
operation (see high termperature) properly.

Fitted to the unit? Often they are plastic, better check. Still where
does that heat go? Sure it's not just another layer of quartz?

Standard feature for a long time? Not in my neck of the woods
(Melbourne), only started seeing the 'covers' as an option about 3
months ago. But then again I only buy them every couple of months when
one blows (only got 2 in the house) so I guess I'm not a big user of
them.

Cheers,

Mark