PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Nicholas Sherlock]

John wrote:

Anyone here made a whitebook and howcome laptops haven't
gone the way of the desktop PC and people get to make a machine
with their own specs?

Size constraints. You generally can't fit slots and plugs in there. The
laptops are designed to exactly fit the components chosen with little
room for error. Some laptops allow you to swap out video cards, but only
a few.

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock

 

[St kilder Sausage]

Get an asko:
they dont have built in obsolecense
They work better
They use very little water

The downside is they take longer to do the wash

You wont regret it....

 

[Gregory Toomey]

John wrote:

Anyone here made a whitebook and howcome laptops haven't
gone the way of the desktop PC and people get to make a machine
with their own specs?

Anyone know who is selling laptop shells to make whitebooks?

See http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=23726

You ask a very good question. There's supposed to be a relatively large
whitebook laptop market, say 10% of the market.

There was a shop in Brisbane that made them & advertised regularly. I've
never seen any wholesaler offer shells but they must be available.

gtoomey

 

[Ross Marchant]

"John" <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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John wrote:

As in stuff that more likely would be thrown out then used
or repaired.

Anyone know where one can go to find items that are more likely
to end up in the bin then fixed?

I'm after a video camera which fits this position to take apart and
have a look inside.

In fact anything like that including any kind of brick style mobile
phone or such if anyone has any destined to be thrown out......
Preferably here in SA too...

email me

sittingbythepool@internode.on.net



Actually forget that just if anyone can recommend a place I
might be able to get to.

The rubbish dump is usually good. Its amazing the things people throw out.
But be careful of getting hooked and becoming a 'dump rat'.

Ross

 

[John]

John wrote:

As in stuff that more likely would be thrown out then used
or repaired.

Anyone know where one can go to find items that are more likely
to end up in the bin then fixed?

I'm after a video camera which fits this position to take apart and
have a look inside.

In fact anything like that including any kind of brick style mobile
phone or such if anyone has any destined to be thrown out......
Preferably here in SA too...

email me

sittingbythepool@internode.on.net

Actually forget that just if anyone can recommend a place I
might be able to get to.

 

[David L. Jones]

John wrote:

As in stuff that more likely would be thrown out then used
or repaired.

Anyone know where one can go to find items that are more likely
to end up in the bin then fixed?

I'm after a video camera which fits this position to take apart and
have a look inside.

In fact anything like that including any kind of brick style mobile
phone or such if anyone has any destined to be thrown out......
Preferably here in SA too...

email me

sittingbythepool@internode.on.net

Council clean-up days are good, although it's usually large items like
old TV's, stereos, stoves, fridges, washing machines that kind of
thing.
The last year or two has seen a proliferation of 15" and even 17"
computer monitors.

A lot of people go around the streets systematically and collect stuff,
to re-sell probably...

Companies (and schools/Uni's) usually throw away tons of stuff too,
although to get those you usually have to know someone. Some of the
stuff our company throws out (or attempts to throw out) is mind
blowing.

Dave

 

[John]

Gregory Toomey wrote:

John wrote:

Anyone here made a whitebook and howcome laptops haven't
gone the way of the desktop PC and people get to make a machine
with their own specs?

Anyone know who is selling laptop shells to make whitebooks?

See http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=23726

You ask a very good question. There's supposed to be a relatively large
whitebook laptop market, say 10% of the market.

There was a shop in Brisbane that made them & advertised regularly. I've
never seen any wholesaler offer shells but they must be available.

gtoomey

Hi Gregory

Asus are supposed to be doing them according to a Cnet article
I read a while back.... And FIS.

 

[Richard Waters]

David L. Jones furiously typed the following on 24/11/2005 3:26 PM:

John wrote:

As in stuff that more likely would be thrown out then used
or repaired.

Anyone know where one can go to find items that are more likely
to end up in the bin then fixed?


The last year or two has seen a proliferation of 15" and even 17"
computer monitors.

Universities are excellent for all sorts of stuff, especially office
equipment and computer bits (everything from full systems down to old
hard to get bits) and you can pick up the odd video camera, speaks and
PA units from time to time!

Sometimes they "auction" them for next to nothing - about a yr ago from
UniNSW, I got 2 filing cabinets (4 draw - $20 each!) and a PIII with the
works and a SCSI card for $50... ...they only stipulate that u come
get it urself is all, and thats not a problem for most people!

--Cheers, Richard

 

[Dand]

"FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote in message
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"MC" <MC@nonexistant.place> wrote in message
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Dand wrote:

I haven't been able to find a 691.2kbps PC interface card, like a PCI
card.
They only seem to support the 250k 500k 960k etc. To hook up the
device im
working with they want 2k$ for a 4 port 691.2k pci interface card.....

One reason could be is that 691.2kbps needs an uncommon baudrate
frequency if you don't want a lot of data errors.

Or run it at a slower baud rate Maybe 500k may work if its adjustable at
the client end

I wish, I swear they have deliberatly done this to make me buy their card...
their product aint looking so good any more. Looks like ill have to make a
691.2 to 960 converter....

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Dand" <dand@dand.net.au> wrote in message
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"FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote in message
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"MC" <MC@nonexistant.place> wrote in message
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Dand wrote:

I haven't been able to find a 691.2kbps PC interface card, like a
PCI
card.
They only seem to support the 250k 500k 960k etc. To hook up the
device im
working with they want 2k$ for a 4 port 691.2k pci interface
card.....

One reason could be is that 691.2kbps needs an uncommon baudrate
frequency if you don't want a lot of data errors.

Or run it at a slower baud rate Maybe 500k may work if its adjustable
at
the client end

I wish, I swear they have deliberatly done this to make me buy their
card...
their product aint looking so good any more. Looks like ill have to make a
691.2 to 960 converter....


This one's about US$100 - any good?

Cheers.

Ken

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote in message
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"Dand" <dand@dand.net.au> wrote in message
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"FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote in message
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"MC" <MC@nonexistant.place> wrote in message
news:dm1853$s35$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
Dand wrote:

I haven't been able to find a 691.2kbps PC interface card, like a
PCI
card.
They only seem to support the 250k 500k 960k etc. To hook up the
device im
working with they want 2k$ for a 4 port 691.2k pci interface
card.....

One reason could be is that 691.2kbps needs an uncommon baudrate
frequency if you don't want a lot of data errors.

Or run it at a slower baud rate Maybe 500k may work if its adjustable
at
the client end

I wish, I swear they have deliberatly done this to make me buy their
card...
their product aint looking so good any more. Looks like ill have to make
a
691.2 to 960 converter....


This one's about US$100 - any good?

Cheers.

Ken


This time I'll include the link:

http://www.neteon.net/prod.asp?pc=30&p=126&pcn=2-Port%20PCI/ISA%20Serial%20Card

They specifically mention 691.2k, so maybe it is a 'standard'....?

Cheers.

Ken

 

[Mr.T]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3uj82gF11bbpnU1@individual.net...

Pardon me for assuming your questions had some point to them.

** FUCK YOU for PIG ARROGANTLY assuming YOU knew the reason.

Yes, it was stupid of me to assume you would ever have a point to your
arguments.

MrT.

 

[The Real Andy]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:33:46 +1000, Mark Harriss <billy@blartco.co.uk>
wrote:

The Real Andy wrote:
I thought air was a good insulator too. How does ligning travel
through air? I beleive the term is called ionisation.



Here: http://wvlightning.com/trees.shtml

"Electricity seeks the path of least resistance, and the moisture (sap
and water) inside a tree is a much better conductor than air. The
result: a tree provides a preferred path for lightning to reach ground."

Now for the trick question: what contains the sap and moisture?
The answer starts with a "w" and ends with a "d" and has four letters.

I expect you'll now try to play with definitions about wood moisture
content or something.

I beleive i have already quoted elsewhere a 'dry' piece of timber. I
beleive that the article you suggest also specifies 'sap and water'?

BTW. I have seen the results of dry, seasoned timber in lab lightning
tests. I can assure you that a 'dry' peice of timber will not conduct
any better than a piece of ceramic.

 

[The Real Andy]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:45:13 +1100, Bazil <nospam@spamzfree.net>
wrote:

The Real Andy wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:42:19 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com
wrote:

Irrelevant to the general question about whether
wood, like any insulator CAN BE a conductor.

The point being dickhead? Its not the material that is conducting the
lightning, it is only assisting it. It is ionised air that conducts.
So the answer is no, the wood is not conducting electricity.

I was gunna opt out of this thread but I have to clarify a point or two.

The people under the bandstand were covered by the roof. Now it may have
been that the strike ionised the air all around, and inside, but I
guarantee that the wooden structure (mostly dry - it had a roof
remember) was also a path.

Have you ever seen a large tree split in half by lightning? What has
happened? Think about what forces are occurring in that tree to
literally blow it apart. What is it that has passed through the wood, to
cause, I assume, a large build up of gas?

I have also seen lab tests on dry timber.

I get the feeling that a few otherwise intelligent engineers, techs etc,
don't quite appreciate just how powerful lightning is...

Some recent research has suggested that the rare positive ground
strikes can be upto 6 times more powerful than is commonly believed.
Likewise, the sprites from positive CG strikes have only been really
discovered in the last ten or so years, and a sprite projects 90km up
into the atmosphere. That's about 60-70km above the higher clouds. not
bad when you consider the average ground strike is only around 10km
max.

I was watching a doco that other night that made a suggestion that
space shuttle columbia crash may have been a result of a positive CG
strike.

 

[Mark Harriss]

The Real Andy wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:33:46 +1000, Mark Harriss <billy@blartco.co.uk
wrote:


The Real Andy wrote:

I thought air was a good insulator too. How does ligning travel
through air? I beleive the term is called ionisation.



Here: http://wvlightning.com/trees.shtml

"Electricity seeks the path of least resistance, and the moisture (sap
and water) inside a tree is a much better conductor than air. The
result: a tree provides a preferred path for lightning to reach ground."

Now for the trick question: what contains the sap and moisture?
The answer starts with a "w" and ends with a "d" and has four letters.

I expect you'll now try to play with definitions about wood moisture
content or something.


I beleive i have already quoted elsewhere a 'dry' piece of timber. I
beleive that the article you suggest also specifies 'sap and water'?

BTW. I have seen the results of dry, seasoned timber in lab lightning
tests. I can assure you that a 'dry' peice of timber will not conduct
any better than a piece of ceramic.

Plenty of dry wood in a thunderstorm.

 

[Dand]

They specifically mention 691.2k, so maybe it is a 'standard'....?

Thanks they look good, but where about do they specifically mention 691.2??
I can only see it says 50bps to 921.6, even in the data sheet :-(

 

[Phil Allison]

"Mr.T"

"Phil Allison"

Pardon me for assuming your questions had some point to them.

** FUCK YOU for PIG ARROGANTLY assuming YOU knew the reason.

Yes, it was stupid of me to assume you would ever have a point to your
arguments.

** Mindless, autistic repetition.






........ Phil

 

[The Real Andy]

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:18:50 +1000, Mark Harriss <billy@blartco.co.uk>
wrote:

The Real Andy wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:33:46 +1000, Mark Harriss <billy@blartco.co.uk
wrote:


The Real Andy wrote:

I thought air was a good insulator too. How does ligning travel
through air? I beleive the term is called ionisation.



Here: http://wvlightning.com/trees.shtml

"Electricity seeks the path of least resistance, and the moisture (sap
and water) inside a tree is a much better conductor than air. The
result: a tree provides a preferred path for lightning to reach ground."

Now for the trick question: what contains the sap and moisture?
The answer starts with a "w" and ends with a "d" and has four letters.

I expect you'll now try to play with definitions about wood moisture
content or something.


I beleive i have already quoted elsewhere a 'dry' piece of timber. I
beleive that the article you suggest also specifies 'sap and water'?

BTW. I have seen the results of dry, seasoned timber in lab lightning
tests. I can assure you that a 'dry' peice of timber will not conduct
any better than a piece of ceramic.



Plenty of dry wood in a thunderstorm.

You would be surprised.

 

[Clockmeister]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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John <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote

Anyone here made a whitebook and howcome
laptops haven't gone the way of the desktop PC and
people get to make a machine with their own specs?

Its a lot harder with everything integrated on the motherboard.

Bullshit. Everything can be scaled down to size and standardised if the
demand was there.

 

[Damian]

"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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John <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote

Anyone here made a whitebook and howcome
laptops haven't gone the way of the desktop PC and
people get to make a machine with their own specs?

Its a lot harder with everything integrated on the motherboard.

Bullshit. Everything can be scaled down to size and standardised if the
demand was there.

Never thought bout that. Is it true some companies already started doin that
on small scale as above?! Would b great if I can assemble a Notebook for the
half of the price of a new brandname one.