PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

Phil Allison wrote:
"David"
Phil Allison wrote:

** The frequency never really changes, the phase merely drifts up and
down around the centre value.
No, the frequency of the mains does change, as the generators speed up
and slow down in response to the changing load.

** Crapology.

The up / down phase drift is a complex function of load and control
inputs.

You obviously have no experience in power systems.


** The mains supply is in every premises.

Never noticed that - FUCKWIT ??
No, the big generators at the power stations, and the big power lines
than connect them. Still, I remember studying them in third and fourth
year at university, something I believe that you missed out on.

In a AC power system the only energy storage you have is the spinning
mass of the turbine/generator.

** Not one - but as large number of them in unison.


** ???????


That is - on a high res frequency meter, the effective AC supply
frequency varies from say 50.1 to 49.9 over a couple of minutes then
drifts back again.

It can fall well below 49.9 for several minutes if there is a problem
with an alternator.

** You would die waiting to see that happen.

Five events in August 2005 alone


** ROTFL

Shame how not even ONE of them meets the meaning of "well below".

( snip pedantic shite )
Please explain what YOU mean by well below? I know you snipped them
because you can't stand being wrong, but I would 49.74 Hz well below
49.9Hz in the context of power system frequency control, and it stayed
below 49.85 for 458 seconds.

He says the alternators have rotation counts each day and are almost never
the same.
** All the alternators right across the Eastern half of Australia are
phase locked when in use.

The phase angle of each generator varies....

** But the rpm does not.

So "phase lock" is the case.

No, it not a "phase lock", as the phase between the alternators is not
locked,


** You cannot read - you sickening autistic prick.

Phase locked = no change in rpm between units.
No, Phase Locked = no change in the PHASE ANGLE between the units. As
there is a change in phase between alternators depending on the load,
they are not phase locked. Again, something you might have learned about
if you finished studying.


David
 
"David"
Phil Allison:
** Crapology.

The up / down phase drift is a complex function of load and control
inputs.

You obviously have no experience in power systems.


** The mains supply is in every premises.

Never noticed that - FUCKWIT ??


No, the big generators at the power stations,

** You completely missed the point - fuckwit.


It can fall well below 49.9 for several minutes if there is a problem
with an alternator.

** You would die waiting to see that happen.

Five events in August 2005 alone


** ROTFL

Shame how not even ONE of them meets the meaning of "well below".

( snip pedantic shite )


Please explain what YOU mean by well below?

** It was your phrase and you did * NOT * specify the meaning.

Engineers ought to be careful of hopelessly vague language when speaking to
folk outside their special areas.


** But the rpm does not.

So "phase lock" is the case.

No, it not a "phase lock", as the phase between the alternators is not
locked,


** You cannot read - you sickening autistic prick.

Phase locked = no change in rpm between units.


No, Phase Locked = no change in the PHASE ANGLE between the units.

** No "phase locked" = no change in rpm between units.

Care to waltz




......... Phil
 
"DalienX" <somewhere@earth.com> wrote in message
news:gd6gf.22668$Hj2.9703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
John wrote:

If you have ever wanted a wood computer or a wood laptop

http://www.gostyle.com/

seen something like this elsewhere, the only thing that worries me is
woods lack of earthing ablility.
That's what people are for????????
 
"T.T."
My new VHF antenna has an adaptor with two short insulated wires at one
end and a screw-on attachment for the co-ax at the other end. The two
wires are meant to be connected to the arms of the antenna, using the
wingnuts on the antenna, and the co-ax is connected to the other end of
the adaptor by a screw-on device that grips the shielding of the co-ax
with a threaded cylinder and screws to the adaptor with a threaded
hex-nut.

My question, before I caper around on the roof like a twenty-year-old, is
this: The resistance between the two wires, even without the co-ax or the
co-ax connector being connected, is zero. Unmeasurable. This cannot be
right? Can it?

** Yes it is right.

The tiny windings of small RF baluns have negligible DC resistance .

One needs pretty fancy RF test gear to measure the actual impedance in the
VHF or UHF bands.



......... Phil
 
McGrath <no@email> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
The Real Andy <will_get_back_to_you_on_This@> wrote
MC <MC@nonexistant.place> wrote

Its not the wood thats doing the conducting.

Yes it is.

You'll find it was the water that was the conductor, not simply the wood.
Wrong with dry wood.
 
"Dave Goldfinch" <daveg50_8@NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:hje5o1tlbmjei04da8epd47vf6gbao0pjv@4ax.com...
I have just bought a "Music Television" Model MTV-540STB set top box
from Coles for the incredible price of $75.

I am in WA so I don't know if this is available nationally or just in
WA.

It is a nice neat unit & setting it up is a doddle. Reception appears
to be excellent - but then my analogue reception is also very good so
YMMV.

It even has a RS232 port for firmware upgrades !

Dave
Hi Dave,

It's here in Victoria at least - was looking at it myself.

Thanks for the info.

Does it have aspect ratio control on the remote, or do you have to fish
through menus to adjust it?

Thanks again.
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"David, not to be confused with the other Davids."


Once the covers are off it is up to the 'trained personel' to apply their
knowledge and determine what areas are safe. Its not unreasonable
to expect trained people to exercise due care. There is a difference
between ignorance and negligence.




** The Sydney based " Jands Electronics " used to manufacture a high
powered stereo amp for sound system use called the SR3000. The designer
employed by Jands was Doug Ford, whom I knew fairly well and is my
informant here.

The SR3000 amp used a system of four DC supply rails for the output stages:

The voltages were: +150 +75 0 -75 -150

Also, to save weight and cost, the heatsink assembly was divided into
separate sections and isolated from the case - so the output transistors
were not insulated from the heatsink.

Yep, the various sub heatsinks were "live" at the four DC supply
oltages - with heaps of current available.

Aware this just might be a hazard to service personnel, Doug made sure the
fact the heat were live was boldly marked on some clear plastic covers that
directed air from the fans through the assembly.

But this was not *before* a very nasty incident in the Jands factory:

One morning, a number of freshly finished SR3000s were sitting happily on a
large trolley under going "soak testing".

Then, the boss of Jands ( David Mulholland ) decided to honour the factory
with his presence and inspect progress with the new whiz bang amplifier that
has just be put into production.

What do you reckon was the very first thing the boss did ?

What words do you suspect he immediately uttered ??

His loyal tech staff were all convulsed with hysterics.



......... Phil
Hi Phil,

thats one of the funniest war stories yet....

Cheers
Terry
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:34:32 GMT, "Stuart Palmer"
<spalm@deakin.edu.au> wrote:

"Dave Goldfinch" <daveg50_8@NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:hje5o1tlbmjei04da8epd47vf6gbao0pjv@4ax.com...

I have just bought a "Music Television" Model MTV-540STB set top box
from Coles for the incredible price of $75.

I am in WA so I don't know if this is available nationally or just in
WA.

It is a nice neat unit & setting it up is a doddle. Reception appears
to be excellent - but then my analogue reception is also very good so
YMMV.

It even has a RS232 port for firmware upgrades !

Dave

Hi Dave,

It's here in Victoria at least - was looking at it myself.

Thanks for the info.

Does it have aspect ratio control on the remote, or do you have to fish
through menus to adjust it?

Thanks again.

It has an 'ASPECT' button on the remote - THe manual quotes it as
offering 'Full Screen, Letter box or Pan Scan'.

It even has 3 games built in ! (Tetris, Boxman and Happy Snake)

Dave
 
"Dave Goldfinch" <daveg50_8@NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:sjd7o197rs5uqmdtm0gv3fq21670smbd4o@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:34:32 GMT, "Stuart Palmer"
spalm@deakin.edu.au> wrote:


"Dave Goldfinch" <daveg50_8@NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:hje5o1tlbmjei04da8epd47vf6gbao0pjv@4ax.com...

I have just bought a "Music Television" Model MTV-540STB set top box
from Coles for the incredible price of $75.

I am in WA so I don't know if this is available nationally or just in
WA.

It is a nice neat unit & setting it up is a doddle. Reception appears
to be excellent - but then my analogue reception is also very good so
YMMV.

It even has a RS232 port for firmware upgrades !

Dave

Hi Dave,

It's here in Victoria at least - was looking at it myself.

Thanks for the info.

Does it have aspect ratio control on the remote, or do you have to fish
through menus to adjust it?

Thanks again.



It has an 'ASPECT' button on the remote - THe manual quotes it as
offering 'Full Screen, Letter box or Pan Scan'.

It even has 3 games built in ! (Tetris, Boxman and Happy Snake)

Dave
Cheers again Dave, thanks.
 
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3uh5jnF11279nU1@individual.net...
McGrath <no@email> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
The Real Andy <will_get_back_to_you_on_This@> wrote
MC <MC@nonexistant.place> wrote

Its not the wood thats doing the conducting.

Yes it is.

You'll find it was the water that was the conductor, not simply the
wood.

Wrong with dry wood.
Dry wood is an insulator - not a conductor. For the purpose of earthing -
which is where this started, wood has NO conducive conductive abilities.
 
"Bazil" <nospam@spamzfree.net> wrote in message
news:dm1o8r$jt2$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
The Real Andy wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:42:19 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com
wrote:

Irrelevant to the general question about whether
wood, like any insulator CAN BE a conductor.

The point being dickhead? Its not the material that is conducting the
lightning, it is only assisting it. It is ionised air that conducts.
So the answer is no, the wood is not conducting electricity.

I was gunna opt out of this thread but I have to clarify a point or two.

The people under the bandstand were covered by the roof. Now it may have
been that the strike ionised the air all around, and inside, but I
guarantee that the wooden structure (mostly dry - it had a roof
remember) was also a path.

Have you ever seen a large tree split in half by lightning? What has
happened? Think about what forces are occurring in that tree to
literally blow it apart. What is it that has passed through the wood, to
cause, I assume, a large build up of gas?

I get the feeling that a few otherwise intelligent engineers, techs etc,
don't quite appreciate just how powerful lightning is...
Green Electricity generation , your on to something here ralph .
 
"MC" <MC@nonexistant.place> wrote in message
news:dm1853$s35$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
Dand wrote:

I haven't been able to find a 691.2kbps PC interface card, like a PCI
card.
They only seem to support the 250k 500k 960k etc. To hook up the
device im
working with they want 2k$ for a 4 port 691.2k pci interface card.....

One reason could be is that 691.2kbps needs an uncommon baudrate
frequency if you don't want a lot of data errors.
Or run it at a slower baud rate Maybe 500k may work if its adjustable at
the client end

 
The Real Andy <will_get_back_to_you_on_This@> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:42:19 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com
wrote:

The Real Andy <will_get_back_to_you_on_This@> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:58:16 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Real Andy <will_get_back_to_you_on_This@> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:34:08 +1100, MC <MC@nonexistant.place
wrote:

The Real Andy wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:46:06 +1000, Mark Harriss
billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote:


SG1 wrote:


John wrote:


If you have ever wanted a wood computer or a wood laptop

http://www.gostyle.com/

seen something like this elsewhere, the only thing that
worries me is woods lack of earthing ablility.

That's what people are for????????


Wood will conduct lightning!, what are you
worried about!!.

Actually, wood doesn't.

Put enough volts across it and it certainly will.

Its not the wood thats doing the conducting.

Yes it is.

It is if the wood is wet. Take a look at any photo of a lab strike
to a dry peice of timber. The lighning travels around the outside
of the timber. Put a piece of plastic next to the piece of wood,
and the plastic will also produce the same effect. I beleive the
term is called flashover. The same phenomena affects ceramic
insulators.

Irrelevant to the general question about whether
wood, like any insulator CAN BE a conductor.

The point being dickhead? Its not the material that
is conducting the lightning, it is only assisting it.
Wrong, as always.

It is ionised air that conducts.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it aint.

So the answer is no, the wood is not conducting electricity.
Wrong, as always.
 
FruitLoop <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
FruitLoop <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote
Colin Ž <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote
FruitLoop <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote
Colin Ž <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote

ps still think a file is created when cloning a disk ???

Its an option

That you had it completely wrong is immutable fact - not an option.

In Law Enforcement an image or clone file

No such animal.

Check out * encase * dickhead .
Dont need to, the term 'clone file' isnt commonly used.

Its the only software used in courts in the US .
Irrelevant to the use of that term, fuckwit.

is created FYI .

Its an exact sector copy of the entire hard drive and
there are loads of 3rd party apps that do the same and
reproduce this on an identical physical or logical drive .

How did I have it wrong ? ,

You claimed that an image file is always involved. You are wrong.

Its an option
Nothing like what you originally pig ignorantly claimed.

and it * depends * on the software used .
Wrong, as always. There is no image file involved with a clone
of an almost full hard drive to a drive of the same size when using
Drive Image, Ghost, True Image, xxcopy, xxclone, etc etc etc.

You only use True Image ,
Wrong, as always.

sure its does on the fly cloning
So does Drive Image, Ghost, True Image, xxcopy, xxclone, etc etc etc.

but thats only one small option for cloning drives ,
Its the ONLY option possible when cloning an almost
full hard drive to a drive of the same size because
there is nowhere to put the image file, fuckwit.

there are 50 products out there
Duh.

and your speaking about 1 thats not used by the professionals .
Pity its also true of Drive Image, Ghost, True Image, xxcopy, xxclone,
etc etc etc when cloning an almost full drive to another of the same size.

Why take an image if its not a backup and repeatable on the deployment .
What matters is whether its FUNCTIONALLY identical.

There are significant downsides with sector by sector clones,
most obviously that the two physical drives need to be identical.
That is NOT the situation in which most cloning is done. Its MUCH
more often done when upgrading the boot drive to a new bigger
drive and a sector by sector clone wont work in that case
because the clone will be the same sized as the original, stupid.

Also a file is much easier to audit for backup
retrieval, rather than a physical drive.
Pity that the most common use of cloning doesnt need any audit.

This argument is typical homeboy stuff.
Couldnt bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag even
if its pathetic excuse for a 'life' depended on it.

I think your wrong in your conclusions .

Nope, as I proved with the example of an almost full hard drive being
cloned to the same sized drive, there is nowhere to put the image file.

Have another go on this most basic of topics .

Its you that need to do that.
 
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132739351.651687.73180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Rob Stirling wrote:
I have a large room with a door at each end. There is a light switch
near one door and I want one near the other door (3 way light switch)
but I can't rewire inside the walls.

I wonder if there is a wireless solution where I can add a 2nd wireless
switch that transmits to a receiver inside the existing switch. I'm not
looking for a full home automation setup costing megabucks though.

I saw a wireless light switch at Bunnings a while back, can't remember
details though, worth taking a look.

Dave :)

X10 modules are cheap enough for a simple job like this:
http://www.eon3.com/content/products/product-list.asp?CID=28

Replace the existing switch, put in a wireless switch and a plug-in bayonet
fitting receiver.

Cheers.

Ken
 
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3uivajF11bdtoU1@individual.net...
McGrath <no@email> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
McGrath <no@email> wrote
Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
McGrath <no@email> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
The Real Andy <will_get_back_to_you_on_This@> wrote
MC <MC@nonexistant.place> wrote

Its not the wood thats doing the conducting.

Yes it is.

You'll find it was the water that was
the conductor, not simply the wood.

Wrong with dry wood.

Dry wood is an insulator - not a conductor.

Depends entirely on the level of voltage
applied, just like with any insulator.

Well in the context of grounding a laptop,

The thread had diverged from that.

wood is useless and would act as an insulator.
In the context of the 'bandstand' incident,
water was the conductor - NOT wood.

In both instatnces wood was/is not a conductor.

Irrelevant to the general question about whether
wood, like any insulator CAN BE a conductor.

For the purpose of earthing - which is where this started,

Irrelevant to where it diverged to.

Somehow we diverged to the Geelong incident. The lightning
was conducted by water from the thunderstorm - not the wood.

Irrelevant to the general question about whether
wood, like any insulator CAN BE a conductor.

wood has NO conducive conductive abilities.

Pity about the situation that it diverged to.

Which was the situation where water was the
main conductive substance - NOT the wood.

Irrelevant to the general question about whether
wood, like any insulator CAN BE a conductor.

You said wood was doing the conducting - it wasn't.

Irrelevant to the general question about whether
wood, like any insulator CAN BE a conductor.
There was no general question, it was in relation to a specific incident.
You diverged from what was being discussed and now you claim that your
divergence is right.

In context, you are wrong.
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Dave Goldfinch"

** Excellent.

Are you using the S-Video ?


Unfortunately not - my aging TV doesnt have that option.


** Nearly all sets have it now.

A very decent 68cm with full AV can be bought for under $400.



Hopefully the price of widescreen sets will drop enough for me to
contemplate buying one soon.


** No need for that expense to appreciate the HUGE improvement S-Video
makes.
IMHO a widescreen set with composite is better than a 4:3 with S-Video
any day. Hang out for the widesreen set Dave, I think a 76cm can be had
for around $600 or so these days. 100Hz is worth paying the extra for
though.
The majority of digital TV content is widescreen, so doesn't look
nearly as good on a 4:3 set. You can zoom in of course, or fit to
screen, but then you either lose content or have a distorted image.

Use it with your DVD player too.

Digital TV and typical DVD quality are practically the same.
Yep, much better than analog.
Although I still find that you can see the compression artefacts in
high speed sports footage which I find a bit annoying sometimes.

Dave :)
 
"David L. Jones"
** Excellent.

Are you using the S-Video ?

Unfortunately not - my aging TV doesnt have that option.

** Nearly all sets have it now.

A very decent 68cm with full AV can be bought for under $400.

Hopefully the price of widescreen sets will drop enough for me to
contemplate buying one soon.


** No need for that expense to appreciate the HUGE improvement S-Video
makes.


IMHO a widescreen set with composite is better than a 4:3 with S-Video
any day.

** Absolute bullshit.

Using composite blurs the pic and colour quality on any screen.



Hang out for the widesreen set Dave, I think a 76cm can be had
for around $600 or so these days. 100Hz is worth paying the extra for
though.

The majority of digital TV content is widescreen,

** The vast majority of SD TV is in "letterbox " mode.

Plus nothing looks WORSE than a 4:3 image on a wide screen set - that
means many movies and even some commercials.


You can zoom in of course, or fit to
screen, but then you either lose content or have a distorted image.

** Neither is true.


Use it with your DVD player too.

Digital TV and typical DVD quality are practically the same.

Yep, much better than analog.
Although I still find that you can see the compression artefacts in
high speed sports footage which I find a bit annoying sometimes.

** Not inherent in the SD format - but a result of deliberate limiting of
bit rates by the networks.

An SD signal can have a higher bit rate than a DVD.



......... Phil
 
John <sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote

Anyone here made a whitebook and howcome
laptops haven't gone the way of the desktop PC and
people get to make a machine with their own specs?
Its a lot harder with everything integrated on the motherboard.

> Anyone know who is selling laptop shells to make whitebooks?
 

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