Posting suggestions

[Mike Wilson]

Yep, Franc I went to another site for help. I was getting sick and tired of
being bashed for the same thing over and over again, and you are no
different. Your reply is exactly what I'm talking about, sarcastic assholes
that have nothing better to do then bash people for making a mistake. You
may know what your doing when it comes to doing electronic repairs, but as
far as being a person, you and Leonard are nothing, you have no people
skills at all. If you haven't noticed there are a few people that agree with
me. If you talked to me like this in the street, I have no problem punching
you in the mush!!! and as far as the term "microferret" goes... you don't
have a sense of humour? I guess I proved my point again...take the stick out
your ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for correcting my spelling, seems like your a teacher also, I'll make
sure I hit the spell check next time, ohh I forgot your perfect, so you
don't make spelling mistakes.
Leonard tried to be helpful, yes he did, however, like I mentioned before,
you can shove it up your ass if your going to get snotty with me. And again,
I did supply the info when it was requested of me, so don't try to shovel
this shit to me about "supplying requisite info" Even before I asked anybody
about my amp, I looked at the FAQ, I didn't find any info at all that
suggested why my amp was acting like it was (Pulsing Woofers) Please prove
me wrong. : )
Leonard suggested that people follow some kind of template, this template is
a suggestion, it's not in action right now, so until it is the norm here, no
one has to follow your way, or Leonard's way, it's the majority that rules,
not you. BTW Leonard suggested the template after I gave him the info about
my amp, suggesting that he was fed up with people like me. In all honesty I
feel for people that are trying to figure out a person's problem, as I to
have to deal with those people at work, however, I don't care if 500 people
before me, pissed you and Leonard off, it's not my fault. I didn't piss in
your Corn Flakes, and beside who's the scumbag looking at other newsgroups
looking for dirt (if any) on me because you don't have anything intellegent
to say and your whole argument is bogus. Don't forget, I got the answer to
my amp problem with no bullshit at all, that's more then I can say about
you.

BTW I do more then change a few network cards, drivers, I'm responsible for:
Network accounts, modifying Network Topology, I trouble shoot all of the
workstation's (2,000 units) hardware and software within the company I work
for and if that wasn't enough, I have to make custom images for all of the
workstations.Have you even looked at your operating system's registry? do
you know what the registry is? Probably not!! How about I give you and
Leonard a little quiz to test your knowledge? Yes Leonard I do bet on it,
that a make you look pretty dumb really quick!!!!!! So there's more to being
a computer tech then you think!!!


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:0c00rvccanmbo7p98l284kjo2i19tc5u1s@4ax.com...

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:00:55 -0600, "Mike Wilson"
wilsonjamesmichael@yahoo.ca> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc I did supply relevant details when it was requested. As I explained
before, I'm not perfect, and just learning what info the techs here want
when I ask for help. If 4 techs tried to help when I didn't note the
model
number of my amp, then I'm inclined to think that I am asking for help in
the proper way...then if one tech thinks that he cannot help me with my
problem unless he has the model number of the amp, that's ok, except when
I
feel that I'm being belittled.

As I see it, Leonard tried to be helpful, despite the lack of info.
Overall I find sci.electronics.repair to be a friendly community,
except in the case of unfortunate crossposts to aus.electronics where
a couple of gutter dwelling scumbags hang out. In any case, I see that
aus.electronics answered your questions, after you provided the
requisite info ;-)

BTW, it's just as well you didn't post to aus.electronics using the
term, "microferret". Some of the regulars can be brutal ...

One more thing. The correct description for C29 & C30 is "capacitor",
not "capistor".

I have no problem supplying the info at all,
it's going to help me in the long run, well dauh!!!!!! But if someone
leaves
out some info that you need to help that person, ask politely, no need to
be
rude, just because you know more about repairing electronics than me
doesn't give you the right to talk to me any less then a equal.

The comment, "we can't read your mind", reflects a genuine level of
frustration felt by many of the regulars in this group. You have to
remember that, unlike computer "technicians" whose expertise is
restricted to changing boards and updating drivers, we are component
level repairers. As such, we need to know the brand and model of the
equipment in question.

As far as not being quailifed, what's the point of the forum then? Maybe
you
should ban all people that don't work in your field!

Nobody wants to ban anyone from this NG. Leonard merely asked that
people indicate their level of expertise so that answers could be
pitched at the right level. Otherwise we are reduced to making
inferences based on context. For example, if someone refers to a 25kV
CRT anode as a "suction cup thingy", then certain safety disclaimers
would be in order.

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4qunqvs9lhhuragi58ilghn22np7hu6l3h@4ax.com...
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 01:10:09 -0600, "Mike Wilson"
wilsonjamesmichael@yahoo.ca> put finger to keyboard and composed:

This whole discussion is stupid, you're arguing over semantics. I just
started using new groups and I thought that the whole idea was to
share
knowledge with others, not stupid sarcastic comments (replying to one
of
my
posts) telling me that "we can't read your mind" and the person knows
who
he
is!!!

I don't think anyone has been rude to you in this NG. In fact this
group too often receives postings from people like yourself with
rudimentary qualifications who provide little, if any, pertinent
detail. Hence the suggested addition to our FAQ.

well excusing the hell of me for asking for help, with a subject
that
I'm not familiar with!!!

Help us to help you. Just give us some relevant detail, eg brand,
model, circuit reference.

I've worked in the computer industry for 10 years,
4+ years in Commercial Technical Support and have always treated
people
that
have less technical skill as equals. Don't forget that the person that
you
help today, can help you with something tomorrow. Maybe you could
politely
ask, the person in question, to look at a posting that outlines a
formula
(SUBJECT LINE, grammatically correct language ETC) that will help them
in
the long run.

Wasn't that the OP's point?

For myself I know that I haven't explained my recent problem
with my amp as well as I could, but try to remember that I was trying
to
figure out what the heck was wrong with it at the same time. I know
for
sure, that if I started a news group for computer tech support, I
wouldn't
be posting this anal retentive message!

I find the OP's suggestion to be potentially helpful to all. Now if
only people would read the FAQ before posting ...

"Leonard Caillouet" <lcailloNOSPAM@devoynet.com> wrote in message
news:Axcpb.9521$Re.995@lakeread06...
Perhaps it would be a good idea to post a section in the fine FAQ
that
Sam
publishes that makes suggestions for what to do when asking for
assistance
on the group. It should be right up front and include:

1) Include the model, chassis, year, type of product, and symptom
in
the
SUBJECT LINE.

2) Include as much diagnostic information as you have in clear
concise,
grammatically correct language.

3) Include a description of your technical ability and experience
level
with the product.

4) etc.

Anyone else have some suggestions. How about it Sam?

Leonard Caillouet


- Franc Zabkar
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[Franc Zabkar]

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:21:40 -0600, "Mike Wilson"
<wilsonjamesmichael@yahoo.ca> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Yep, Franc I went to another site for help. I was getting sick and tired of
being bashed for the same thing over and over again, and you are no
different.

Your reply is exactly what I'm talking about, sarcastic assholes
that have nothing better to do then bash people for making a mistake. You
may know what your doing when it comes to doing electronic repairs, but as
far as being a person, you and Leonard are nothing, you have no people
skills at all. If you haven't noticed there are a few people that agree with
me. If you talked to me like this in the street, I have no problem punching
you in the mush!!! and as far as the term "microferret" goes... you don't
have a sense of humour?

Yes, I do find that funny, but I'm laughing *at* you, not *with* you.

I guess I proved my point again...take the stick out
your ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for correcting my spelling, seems like your a teacher also, I'll make
sure I hit the spell check next time, ohh I forgot your perfect, so you
don't make spelling mistakes.

I did not correct your *spelling*. I corrected your *terminology*, as
did Leonard on a previous occasion when he wrote that the unit of
capacitance is the microfarad. Yet almost a week later you posted to
aus.electronics using the term "capistor", which shows that you
learned nothing. Capacitor, capacitance, get it?

Leonard tried to be helpful, yes he did, however, like I mentioned before,
you can shove it up your ass if your going to get snotty with me. And again,
I did supply the info when it was requested of me, so don't try to shovel
this shit to me about "supplying requisite info" Even before I asked anybody
about my amp, I looked at the FAQ, I didn't find any info at all that
suggested why my amp was acting like it was (Pulsing Woofers) Please prove
me wrong. : )
Leonard suggested that people follow some kind of template, this template is
a suggestion, it's not in action right now, so until it is the norm here, no
one has to follow your way, or Leonard's way, it's the majority that rules,
not you. BTW Leonard suggested the template after I gave him the info about
my amp, suggesting that he was fed up with people like me.

He suggested no such thing.

In all honesty I
feel for people that are trying to figure out a person's problem, as I to
have to deal with those people at work, however, I don't care if 500 people
before me, pissed you and Leonard off, it's not my fault.

You didn't piss me off until this last post.

I didn't piss in
your Corn Flakes, and beside who's the scumbag looking at other newsgroups
looking for dirt (if any) on me because you don't have anything intellegent
to say and your whole argument is bogus.

You are paranoid. I've been a regular participant at aus.electronics
for over five years. OTOH, the first post on record at the Google
archives for <wilsonjamesmichael@yahoo.ca> was on Nov 1, 2003. That
makes you relatively new to Usenet, unless you've posted previously
under a different name.

Don't forget, I got the answer to
my amp problem with no bullshit at all, that's more then I can say about
you.

Try your microferret bullshit at aus.electronics and see how far you
get.

BTW I do more then change a few network cards, drivers, I'm responsible for:
Network accounts, modifying Network Topology, I trouble shoot all of the
workstation's (2,000 units) hardware and software within the company I work
for and if that wasn't enough, I have to make custom images for all of the
workstations.Have you even looked at your operating system's registry? do
you know what the registry is? Probably not!!

Someone whose technical vocabulary includes "microferrets" and
"capistors" can't even begin to understand what a real technician
does.

As for the registry, here are just a few of my posts on this subject.
Most involve registry hacks of my own design.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3c965ee9.178268%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=36e0aa21.429060%40news.ozemail.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=36eded85.11927346%40news.ozemail.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3bb2cc83.2516681%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3c6f548c.7797177%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://modemsite.com/56k/pctel.asp (my registry hack for PCtel modems)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3d10f528.512233%40news.dodo.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=39518be0.12890079%40news.ozemail.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3ddd3ae0.3368484%40news.optusnet.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3c78b30c.24365232%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38066ca6.6997053%40news.ozemail.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=371604c3.244345%40news.ozemail.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3cbfed47.328703%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3af1d13b.4851732%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e39902e.1377371%40news.optusnet.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3cc88907.7516313%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b22bc41.5298459%40news.dingoblue.net.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=o434nvopc945ousvbrt9aobbud55m85und%404ax.com&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=39b4c014.8078853%40news.ozemail.com.au&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=36de22ab.29915591%40news.ozemail.com.au&output=gplain
http://m571.com/m571/franczabkar.htm (my M571 technical notes)

How about I give you and
Leonard a little quiz to test your knowledge? Yes Leonard I do bet on it,
that a make you look pretty dumb really quick!!!!!! So there's more to being
a computer tech then you think!!!

Unlike you, I know all about what it is to be a real computer tech.
During the 80's I worked for a multinational CAD-CAM minicomputer
vendor as a field engineer, workshop technician, and technical support
engineer. I've done board level troubleshooting, chip level
troubleshooting (both on-site and in the workshop), and OS level and
application level troubleshooting. I've written diagnostic routines,
patched microcode and boot ROMs, solved software bugs, recovered lost
data from corrupted file systems, interfaced "incompatible" equipment,
etc. During the late 80's and early 90's I freelanced as a tech
support engineer by providing maintenance contracts to major
international companies. During my era, computer hardware consisted of
$10K, 15" x 15" PCBs comprising discrete logic (up to 300 ICs), unlike
today's single-chip throwaways. For example, a CPU/MMPU/FPU board set
consisted of three PCBs, not a single chip as it does today. Hard disc
drives were 250kg monsters, tape drives were the reel-to-reel type,
plotters were huge 1 tonne devices, and computers filled a room.
Realising that the major vendors were limited to swapping boards, as
do today's PC board jockeys (aka computer "techs"), I identified a
niche market and made a good living as an on-site, chip level repair
tech.

BTW, FWIW I'm also a qualified electrical engineer.


- Franc Zabkar
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