OT: Why People Are Not Free? (rant)

[Mark Jones]

~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

Given your propensities to constantly take shortcuts
and your unwillingness to follow established protocols,
you won't get far in science anyway.
Why don't you just go play in traffic?

This is one of the many things people here have said against me - and I
can't say I fully disagree with it or any of the others.

I won't get far in science anyway: Who does? If you put all of the
knowledge and achievements of everyone on Earth together, it would
still be a fraction of what there is out there to accomplish and know.
Besides, I might not even end up working in a science-related field. If
I do, it will be meteorology. The other thing that interests me,
though, is interior design.

I'm too stupid to post in Usenet: Probably. But if it's truly
stupidity, then it is a mental condition rather than a personality
trait and therefore I cannot fix it. Maybe you meant ignorant, or
stubborn?

I'm a typical child: In a way, yes - I guess I'd probably have the
intelligence of a typical child and the personality. In another way, no
- most kids in my school break the dress code, do drugs, vandalize the
school, etc., or all of those, none of which I do. I'm more of the
nerdy kid who studies through lunch for no apparent reason.

Good for you.

You're young enough still that anything is possible. Don't let anyone ever get
you down, or make you think you are stupid or ignorant. Those kinds of comments
stem simply from other's jealousy at your intelligence. (And possibly, man's
inherent drive to control and subjugate women, but that's another topic entirely.)

I think you're severely limiting your potential by making comments like "I
won't go far in science anyways." Well who's to say you won't? Who's to say you
won't revolutionize meterology or pioneer some new theory, bringing forth many
amazing new technologies? Think about this: did Edison set out to invent a
glowing bulb with the intent to revolutionize lighting, or simply to replace the
tiresome candles and oil lamps? The only difference between doing something
amazing and not doing something amazing, is DOING IT. Some of us old geezers
here can't do that - we're "set in our ways" and can't just decide to switch
careers into biomedicine, astronomy, astrophysics, or whatever it is we really
want to do. But if you want to be a string theory physicist, that is still an
option for you. But you'll never go anywhere if you believe you are stupid
and/or ignorant.

For some of us, we wish we would have done things differently at your age. I
could probably be doing R&D for the USAF if I'd joined when I had the chance.
Maybe that life would have been better, maybe it would be worse. But either sure
beats where I am today.

Take the BLUE pill. Find out how far the rabbit hole goes. Otherwise, be
content in just being another battery for some machine.

P.S. Did you ever receive the mail I sent you about munging your email address
in usenet posts? Or was it filtered, misplaced, or ignored like everything else
I seem to write?

 

[JeffM]

~~SciGirl~~ wrote [attempting to justify her unwillingness
to abide by Usenet norms]

about munging your email address in usenet posts
Mark Jones

For those not paying attention:
The whole point of the sub-thread has been GOOGLE GROUPS.
You must give a vadid email address to them to sign up.
THEY control what appears in FROM: line of your posts.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:30:26 -0800, ~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

P.S. Did you ever receive the mail I sent you about munging your email
address
in usenet posts? Or was it filtered, misplaced, or ignored like
everything else
I seem to write?

I don't think so. Everything I write seems to get filtered too
Those weren't my comments, I was responding to them. What I wrote was
after the colons, what people said was before them. But my IQ is
average, really. I just care to learn.

We see your posts. You're being ignored because you steadfastly refuse
to follow USENET conventions in your posting. IOW, you're acting like
the standard fuckhead:
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/fuckhead.html

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote (in <pan.2005.03.26.00.18.10.83291@example.net&gt about 'OT: Why
People Are Not Free? (rant)', on Sat, 26 Mar 2005:

We see your posts. You're being ignored because you steadfastly refuse
to follow USENET conventions in your posting.

I thought of a more polite word for that, but if I posted it, I'd
probably become one.(;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[keith]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:27:33 -0800, ~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

I just discovered there's a sci.geo.meteorology so now I'm happy. I'll
try "abiding by norms" from the beginning there and see if they get mad

at me, and maybe that'll give me a hint.

Try posting with proper quotation marks. That'll be a start.

That is, when they post something worth replying to. What's there is
worthless. I started a new topic with something I've always wanted to
know the answer to - what the record low and high adiabatic and
environmental lapse rates are.

Record low and high *adiabatic lapse rates"? The dry ALR is 1C/100m
(5.5F/1000') and the wet (saturated) ALR is about .55C/100m (2-3F/1000').
There is no "record", high or low. It's a physical phenomenon, PV=nRT,
and all that.

I wasn't familiar with the term "environmental lapse rate", but
apparently it's the average lapse rate in the troposphere and is the
"average lapse rate" (wet and dry ALR combined) and averages .65C/100m,
so I suppose there must be a high and low. There is also a
"superadiabatic" lapse rate (greater than the dry ALR, but less than ~3x
the dry) and "autoconvective" lapse rate (greater than superadiabatic), so
perhaps it would help to search on these.

--
Keith

 

[Mark Jones]

~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

I just discovered there's a sci.geo.meteorology so now I'm happy. I'll
try "abiding by norms" from the beginning there and see if they get mad

at me, and maybe that'll give me a hint.

That is, when they post something worth replying to. What's there is
worthless. I started a new topic with something I've always wanted to
know the answer to - what the record low and high adiabatic and
environmental lapse rates are.

Oooh, now you're starting to sound like a hangglider pilot.

 

[Clarence_A]

"~~SciGirl~~" <palmtree117@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1111852585.951111.133170@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

I thought of a more polite word for that, but if I posted it,
I'd
probably become one.(;-)

I don't want to know.

I find the sci.physics.research topic "Neutrino Generation from
Electrons" fascinating... you might want to try reading it. Also
the
one on quantum black holes.

PLONK!

There, it's much quieter now!

 

[Reg Edwards]

"Freedom" is merely a recent political "in" word associated with
so-called "Democracy" and "Human Rights".

Freedon from what? Responsibility?

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:13:54 -0800, ~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

~~SciGirl~~ wrote [attempting to justify her unwillingness
to abide by Usenet norms]

WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?

Quote whatever it is you are responding to, and set it off with angle
brackets in the first column, much as your rant is quoted here.

I'VE STARTED TO PUT A BIT OF WHAT I'M
REPLYING TO IN EACH OF MY POSTS, INCLUDING THIS ONE,

This is simply not true. There is not a trace of what you are replying
to, other than what you see above, also set off by angle brackets.

You really need to learn to copy/paste.

AND EVERYONE STILL
SAYS I'M "not abiding by norms" AND OTHER SUCH THINGS.

I am not "everyone"; other than that, that statement _is_ accurate.

I just discovered there's a sci.geo.meteorology so now I'm happy. I'll
try "abiding by norms" from the beginning there and see if they get mad
at me, and maybe that'll give me a hint.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:28:04 +0000, Clarence_A wrote:

"~~SciGirl~~" <palmtree117@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1111852585.951111.133170@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I thought of a more polite word for that, but if I posted it,
I'd
probably become one.(;-)

I don't want to know.

I find the sci.physics.research topic "Neutrino Generation from
Electrons" fascinating... you might want to try reading it. Also
the
one on quantum black holes.


PLONK!

There, it's much quieter now!

Hey, Clarence! Why plonk SciGirl? Sounds like she's right up your alley!
--
Pig Bladder on a Stick

 

[Clarence_A]

"Pig Bladder" <pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote in message
newsan.2005.03.26.21.49.25.719127@neodruid.net...

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:28:04 +0000, Clarence_A wrote:
"~~SciGirl~~" <palmtree117@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1111852585.951111.133170@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I thought of a more polite word for that, but if I posted it,
I'd
probably become one.(;-)
I don't want to know.
I find the sci.physics.research topic "Neutrino Generation
from
Electrons" fascinating... you might want to try reading it.
Also
the
one on quantum black holes.

PLONK!
There, it's much quieter now!

Hey, Clarence! Why plonk SciGirl? Sounds like she's right up
your alley!

Well I don't think so, besides I don't pick up girls that hang out
in alleys. "I just got tired of the noise."

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Reg Edwards wrote:

"Freedom" is merely a recent political "in" word associated with
so-called "Democracy" and "Human Rights".

Freedon from what? Responsibility?

Being British!

--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[keith]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:08:12 -0800, ~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

also a
"superadiabatic" lapse rate (greater than the dry ALR, but less than
~3x
the dry) and "autoconvective" lapse rate (greater than superadiabatic),
so
perhaps it would help to search on these.

I know superadiabatic but not autoconvective.

Would you *please* get a decent news client and find a news server? Your
posts are quite annoying. I thought you might get a hint if prodded.
Evidently you are indeed a "fuck head".

--
Keith

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

I can't! Decent ones aren't free. I repeat, you don't have to read my
posts! Just skip over them.

I know you're all annoyed with me, but I have been copying and pasting,
as you say, and I must be doing it right because what I copy and paste
shows up as blue text. Therefore, I figure that if you are annoyed with
me despite that, it must be the context of my messages that's bothering
you. I CAN'T HELP IT THAT I'M NOT A SUPERGENIUS AND THAT I DON'T
UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU DO. You don't have to answer my questions, so
if it annoys you to do so, just don't! I usually find the answer
somehow anyways. I wonder why you even care.

Who is your internet provider? Don't they offer a news server as
part of the package?

--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that ~~SciGirl~~ <palmtree117@juno.com>
wrote (in <1111951820.807623.248180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com&gt about
'OT: Why People Are Not Free? (rant)', on Sun, 27 Mar 2005:

I wonder why you even care.

1. We try (no, really we do!) to be helpful to everyone.
2. Especially to girls.
3. You ask some interesting questions.
4. You stay here even though you are grumbled at.

Even though you are seeing 'blue text', it isn't coming through to us. I
can't explain what's wrong because I don't use Googlegroups.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Michael A. Terrell
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote (in
<4247126C.87544755@earthlink.net&gt about 'OT: Why People Are Not Free?
(rant)', on Sun, 27 Mar 2005:

Who is your internet provider? Don't they offer a news server as
part of the package?

If the 'juno' domain is real, we get other news from that ISP without
problems.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

Who is your internet provider? Don't they offer a news server as
part of the package?

Verizon. I don't know. Juno's just the email.

The Verizon news server is: news.verizon.net

What browser software are you using? Some browsers will let you
click on news:sci.electronics.design and set up the account for this
newsgroup. Others have to be manually configured. You will also be
able to set up a Verizon E-mail account if you want it. If you need
help from Verizon click on this link:
http://www2.verizon.net/contact/news.asp

For other ISPs this page has some common providers and their links:
http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"~~SciGirl~~" <palmtree117@juno.com> schreef in bericht
news:1111875085.213507.92980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

This is simply not true. >There is not a trace of what you are replying

to, other than what you see above, also set off by >angle brackets.

You really need to learn to copy/paste.

[I have been copying and pasting, and I seem to be doing it right
because it comes up blue. I don't understand. What else is there to
do?]

Quit posting from Google. Use Outlook Express instead which is probably
on your computer already. Or use any other newsreader.

Simply never use Google for posting to usenet. Google makes a mess
of it.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[John Fields]

On 27 Mar 2005 11:30:20 -0800, "~~SciGirl~~" <palmtree117@juno.com>
wrote:

Would you *please* get a decent news client and find a news server?
Your
posts are quite annoying. I thought you might get a hint if prodded.
Evidently you are indeed a "fuck head".

I can't! Decent ones aren't free.

---
Check out:

http://www.giganews.com/

About 8 bucks a month for 2GB worth of downloads. Not free, but not
bad...
---

I repeat, you don't have to read my
posts! Just skip over them.

I know you're all annoyed with me, but I have been copying and pasting,
as you say, and I must be doing it right because what I copy and paste
shows up as blue text. Therefore, I figure that if you are annoyed with
me despite that, it must be the context of my messages that's bothering
you. I CAN'T HELP IT THAT I'M NOT A SUPERGENIUS AND THAT I DON'T
UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU DO. You don't have to answer my questions, so
if it annoys you to do so, just don't! I usually find the answer
somehow anyways. I wonder why you even care.

---
The problem night be that you cut and paste, but you don't say where
the cutting and pasting came from.

For example, in my newsreader, everything that's in a post (except for
the most recent message) will be in blue, so if you've cut and pasted
something into one of your posts and you haven't said where it came
from, it'll look like it was yours no matter what. (That is, whether
it's blue or not won't make any difference)

--
John Fields

 

[keith]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:30:20 -0800, ~~SciGirl~~ wrote:

Would you *please* get a decent news client and find a news server?
Your
posts are quite annoying. I thought you might get a hint if prodded.
Evidently you are indeed a "fuck head".

I can't! Decent ones aren't free. I repeat, you don't have to read my
posts! Just skip over them.

Decent "what's" aren't free. You see, no one can follow your posts beause
you don't include enough text from the person you're relpying to for
anyone to figure out what the hell you're blathering about.

News *clients* are free just about everywhere. For WinBlows I tend to
like Gravity (*free*). There are free, or nearly so, news servers out
there. I now have to *pay* a grand total of $13 per *year* for
individual.net. It was free while you were complaining here.

I know you're all annoyed with me, but I have been copying and pasting,

C&P doesn't cut it, unless you add in all the hints that
*other's* servers use to display articles. When you write, you
must think of your reader. Newsreaders add all this stuff in for notin'.
You just stick the cursor in where you want to type and go at it.

as you say, and I must be doing it right because what I copy and paste
shows up as blue text. Therefore, I figure that if you are annoyed with
me despite that, it must be the context of my messages that's bothering
you.

When you follow the rules (apparently manually) it works, sorta. I find
it amazing that you're having to go through this much work though. The
accepted standards aren't tough and all newsreaders handle them. Dump
google-groups and get on with life.

I CAN'T HELP IT THAT I'M NOT A SUPERGENIUS AND THAT I DON'T
UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU DO. You don't have to answer my questions, so
if it annoys you to do so, just don't! I usually find the answer somehow
anyways. I wonder why you even care.

I don't care much either. I *thought* you wanted to be a grown-up and
learn from the rest here, rather than be treated as a spoiled *BRAT*. The
choice is yours.

--
Keith