OT: Why is Germany so (apparently) stupid to give up nuclear

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:ac62de5a-7e22-4288-9e15-cf54a62cdbb1@googlegroups.com:

Sure, but with a bill of zero, they aren't paying for that
distribution system, stupid.

Their bill is NOT zero, you dumbfuck!

Their bill shows their usage of the grid.

Their bill shows what they generated back on that was over and
above what they used.

Their bill shows that they received credit for that generated
juice.

Their bill shows that the credit gained was used to pay against the
metered usage. The net is simple math, not "zero", you fucking
idiot.

You being a mud in the eyes, horse blinder closed tightly, blind as
a dead bat, baby bullshit spewing idiot is understandable.

You ALWAYS REFUSE to admit when you are fucking wrong.

This is no exception. The result of your fucked up career was
likely fucked up BY YOU as well. Something all the retarded trading
in the world will not release you from.

Go kill yourself, you piece of shit. Maybe God will let you come
back as a slug, which in your case, would be a huge step up.

Hell, tardigrade would be a huge step up for you.

Your mentallity is the same genre that got Lucifer cast down from
heaven. In fact you are firmly ensconsed as just another one of his
minion. Instead of being lost and or misled, however, you are
actually simply an evil little piece of shit, just like him.

 

<TraitorTard4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7e4c7227-6525-40fb-bd8a-de5e61a47aec@googlegroups.com:

And their non-solar neighbors are paying for that distribution
system, the solar home with a zero bill is not, stupid.

YES THEY ARE! They simply use the credits they earned. What part of
"same as cash" do you not understand? The charge and the pay for it
are STILL THERE!

WAKE THE FUCK UP, BOY!

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 10:08:02 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:a8503f1f-a4bf-43f0-8673-b167c8772d6a@googlegroups.com:

Oh, BS. I can read an electric bill. Mine, about half is for the
cost of the energy, the other half is for DISTRIBUTION.

Yes, IDIOT. AND WHEN THE SOLAR USER READS HIS, half of HIS *METERED*
usage is for the distribution thereof.

See if you can follow this, 0 times anything is zero.

IOW, if he generates, that meter does not move, because there was NO
USAGE. If he uses it when not generating, it does move.

If it does move, he pays. Same same. Get over it, ya dippy twit.

Net zero times anything is zero, stupid.


Solar home electric bill: Zero or $15

Non-solar poor schmuck's bill: $150, half of it for the GRID ie DISTRIBUTION

Who's paying for the big grid the solar home needs when the sun isn't shining?


Wrong, always wrong. Maybe Bill can explain it to you, he seems to get it.

 

<TraitorTard4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7e4c7227-6525-40fb-bd8a-de5e61a47aec@googlegroups.com:

You are truly stupid. If simple home solar was producing some
huge
amount beyond their demand, they would pump the grid with it, and
a local battery. That is almost NEVER the case as they are only
supplemental and add up to a portion of the household's daily
use. Especially during the day!

Gee, "especially" during the day? Solar doesn't work at night,
stupid. The house would have no power without the grid, which
solar homes aren't paying for, though the desperately need it and
use it.

You missed the point dipshit. Pumping the grid during the day
while the genco is at their max utilization gives them ease, and they
PAY for that.

Like I need a total fucking retard like you to tell me that a solar
panel does not produce at night.

You apparently need a remedial math course though.

They use a little at night. They PAY for that AND its
distribution. If that fee is LESS than the credit they got for their
generations, there is no bill. That still does not mean that
customer did not pay. He did pay, He simply used his credits to do
so. You seem simply a pissed off little retard, mad about the fact
that the guy gets free juice from the Sun and pays less as a result.

Like the retard that says "I tell my mommy on youuuu!". It really
does not get more stupid than TraitorTard4.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7e4c7227-6525-40fb-bd8a-de5e61a47aec@googlegroups.com:

But then they are only paying a small amount, not the true cost of
the grid.

They are paying for THEIR usage of it. Goddamn boy wake the fuck
up. They only OWE and only PAY for that little bit they used.

That is all they should pay.

Do you even know what a levy is or how they worked?

They did not nor do not go round forcing everyone to pay the same
for road repairs.

Joe pays one price, and Cindy Sue another.

The entire world pays the price for your utter stupidity though.

 

<TraitorTard4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7e4c7227-6525-40fb-bd8a-de5e61a47aec@googlegroups.com:

NO! Only against what they generate. Once that match is even
up,
they PAY for what they USE. REAL SIMPLE. WAKE UP.

Which is what I said, zero or near zero, stupid.

You are the stupid one. They GET PAID for the gen. They use THAT
PAY to PAY for their regular use. IF the net is ZERO, they STILL
PAID for it.

Damn, boy, you are stupid! You cry like they do not pay. THEY DO
PAY!

You can't even do 3rd grade elementary school metaphoric story
math!

If TraitorTard4 has no solar and uses 500kW/hr, he pays 500X.

If Joe Bloe Solar Dude uses the same amount, but MAKES 300kW/hr of
that amount on day rate fee schedule time, he GETS CREDIT for it, but
still owes for 200X.

If Joe Bloe Solar Dude uses the same amount, but generates
600kW/hr, he acquires 100kW/hr credit. Juice THE POWER COMPANY did
NOT HAVE TO GENERATE OR DISTRIBUTE! But that same juice is juice
they DO get to bill the customers who DID use it for.

For that customer, it does not matter where the juice came from, it
gets billed through the meter like before there were co-generators,
but it cost the ECo less because they did not have to generate it or
distribute it.

You seem unable to grasp or unaware of the fact that those gains
stack up and double or even quadruple, because that is juice they did
not even have to provide. How you are blind to that is pretty
amusing.

For Joe Bloe Solar Dude though... He got credit for that thankful
job, dig, boy?

So when Joe Bloe Solar Dude actually makes use of the power
company's juice, he pays. If that charge is less than his credit,
the net is zero. If not, he pays, and at the same rate as any other
residential metered service.

500X is 500X. 500X minus 300X is 200X.

Why you have a problem with a real man getting back what he
deserves for helping out, is curious.

Kind of like a somebody done you wrong song.

Did life fuck you, TaitorTard4, or did you self impotentize?

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:ac62de5a-7e22-4288-
9e15-cf54a62cdbb1@googlegroups.com:

, at least
some of those

Your problem is that you manipulate facts.

At least one or more of those obtained their weapon(s) through
illicit or unsupervised means, and that includes the stupid bastard who
shot my Aunt and Cousin.

You are devoid of facts and you even fuck it up when you google and
try to respout.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:ac62de5a-7e22-4288-
9e15-cf54a62cdbb1@googlegroups.com:

> We already have a "list", the fed instant check database.

Yes, you retarded fuck. And the ONLY names on it are felons and
parolees.

Felons are under what is called "a firearm disability", and
parolees lose citizenship rights upon conviction until the sentence
is carried out, and that includes parole, which is also why a person
in prison or on parole is not permitted to vote as well.

The list was around even before the moniker it now carries, you
fucking idiot. What is not on the list are what they are currently
talking about.

You being oblivious to what is being discussed is par for the
course. The remark is about what they are talking about doing, not
what is currently in place, you fucking 20 IQ nitwit!!!

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 12:29:14 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 12:28:27 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:98b217b3-8859-4f5b-8297-27856115a4f6@googlegroups.com:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 4:12:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 1:32:00 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie
wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:50:01 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@
decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:1c7c66e4-961d-48b7- 8133-f0104fde3211@googlegroups.com:

<snip>

> > > Someone with solar has a net bill of ZERO or close to it.

Seems unlikely.

Has anybody ever seen the electricity bill of somebody with roof-top solar cells?

NO! Only against what they generate. Once that match is even up,
they PAY for what they USE. REAL SIMPLE. WAKE UP.

Which is what I said, zero or near zero, stupid.

The claim that anybody actually gets a zero or near zero bill is a trifle incredible.

If they get paid for excess power that they have generated, and fed back into the grid, rather than using it themselves, it isn't actually a zero bill, but that's a more complicated idea than Trader4 can cope with.

<snip>

You are full of shit. The infrastructure is already in place and
went in before privatization in many cases. Most cost is now in
maintenance, and new builds.

And their non-solar neighbors are paying for that distribution system,
the solar home with a zero bill is not, stupid.

Wrong, always wrong.

Trader4 does come closer to that than most.

Even if the house with solar cells on the roof manages to generate more power than they use, and ends up getting paid enough for the excess that they have fed back into the grid to have a zero bill, the power that they have fed back into the grid is their payment for the cost of the distribution system.

Generating power costs money, even if it only the interest on the capital invested in buyin the solar cells in the first place, and if the utility doesn't have to do that they end up saving some money.

Trader4 really is as thick as a brick.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

<TraitorTard4@optonline.net> wrote in news:28a0110a-daa1-43a7-b35d-
8f1eace043bc@googlegroups.com:

See if you can follow this, 0 times anything is zero.

Yes.... we see ZERO every time you post, and no matter how hard
you try to multiply your claim to knowledge the fact is that zero
times anything is zero.

Like your ZERO GRASP of electrical power distribution and grid
construction.

A 100kW/hr solar gen event yields X dollars credit. See that word,
boy? DOLLARS. Money. Cash. ON THE BOOKS.

He uses 100kW/hr at night through the month.

His bill is x DOLLARS.

It is not multiplication, you pathetic child, it is SIMPLE ADDITION
AND SUBTRACTION.

His bill of X DOLLARS for his night usage shows a credit of... oh
my... X DOLLARS for his Solar generations.

SUBTRACT from that usage his DOLLARS of credit. The number is what
it is... zero or otherwise, he PAID CASH DOLLARS for everything he
used.

You are beyond stupid. It could almost be argued that you are
doing it intentionally because humans are not supposed to be that
inanely stupid and yet here you are.

Oh, that's right... you are not human. You are a piece of shit,
the whore mother of which should be imprisoned for failing to flush
you, the moment the severely ass fucked street slut shat you.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 10:32:22 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:312e60fb-b48f-4a95-8e07-8e5e98f36489@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 11:44:57 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:86de1321-a74c-4418-9581-ebd08d27c64d@googlegroups.com:

Going in reverse is obviously still using the distribution
system, stupid.

No, it is not. It is pumping it.


Wrong, always wrong. And what happens with those solar homes that
are paying little or zero electric bills when the sun goes down,
stupid? They need the grid just like their neighbors, except they
aren't paying for it.



Yes, they are you fucking retarded twit!

WHEN their meter moves because they are using the grid instead of
their solar, they pay! IF their solar provided them additional
credit against that, they STILL payed for it with their solar.

Repeat after me, zero times anything is zero.

Solar home has a net usage of 0 kwh, their bill is zero, except for
maybe a small, fixed meter charge, eg Rick;s $15 example.

Home with poor people down the street, their bill is $150, about half
that is for DISTRIBUTION, ie the infrastructure that the solar home
is also highly dependent on, without it they would have no power at night.
So the solar home is paying zero or close to it for the distribution system,
the poor folks are paying $75 a month for it.

As more and more people deploy solar, it just keeps getting worse,
those without solar are getting screwed, subsidizing those with solar.
Carried to the extreme, if there was only one non-solar home left,
they would have a monthly bill for the entire cost of the whole
distribution system!










>

 

<TraitorTard4@optonline.net> wrote in news:7ada4f25-2e20-43bb-b685-
f860d789c4da@googlegroups.com:

if there was only one non-solar home left,
they would have a monthly bill for the entire cost of the whole
distribution system!

You keep getting your sig wrong. You are not "Wrong, always wrong"
as you so often sign your posts with.

You are "Wrong Wholly Wrong". WWW

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7ada4f25-2e20-43bb-b685-f860d789c4da@googlegroups.com:

As more and more people deploy solar, it just keeps getting worse,
those without solar are getting screwed, subsidizing those with
solar. Carried to the extreme,

Bullshit.

Say all users but ten go to solar. Sorry, punk, but those ten
users are NOT going to pay $300,000 (just a number you retarded twit)
a month each for the power.

You see, your claim is both baseless and pathetic.

Before solar the $150 a month 'poor guy' paid the same $75 a month
for his distribution.

After solar the 'poor guy' still pays the same.

Now, the solar guy, using the same amount in his home, generates a
great deal of that, thereby NOT using the grid at all during that
time. Then, during your precious night sequences, he uses a bit of
his total consumption for that month. That metered usage and cost is
SMALL, just like what he actually used. He also gets credit for his
solar, which gets APPLIED AGAINST that small usage. Your precious
'net' is EXACTLY what the term describes. The net amount he then
actually owes the genco back. That number could be positive, zero,
or even negative, placing it back onto that customer's solar credit
books.

How you are having a problem with a simple math calculation is a
real tell about you. It is getting increasingly difficult to want to
answer any of your posts except for the fact that you are dumping
pure bullshit into the group that needs to be addressed.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:22:26 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7e4c7227-6525-40fb-bd8a-de5e61a47aec@googlegroups.com:

But then they are only paying a small amount, not the true cost of
the grid.

They are paying for THEIR usage of it. Goddamn boy wake the fuck
up. They only OWE and only PAY for that little bit they used.

See if you can follow this. A solar home generates as much energy as
they use. Their bill is ZEro times .13 kwh, which equals ZERO.
So, they have paid NOTHING for the grid. Yet they are using the grid,
they need the grid at night. Meanwhile, their neighbor without solar
gets a bill for 1000 x .13 = $130 and about half that is for the cost
of the grid. The solar home is paying nothing for the grid, while
they need it and use it at night.

Capiche?


No, of course not. You prefer to be wrong, always wrong.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:01:36 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:ac62de5a-7e22-4288-
9e15-cf54a62cdbb1@googlegroups.com:

, at least
some of those

Your problem is that you manipulate facts.

At least one or more of those obtained their weapon(s) through
illicit or unsupervised means, and that includes the stupid bastard who
shot my Aunt and Cousin.

Who exactly are "those"? As far as the mass shootings of the last several
years, only a small percentage acquired their guns illicitly. Most
legally bought them.
Unsupervised, IDK what that means. For example, Cruz, the Parkland FL,
school shooter, obtained his rifle by simply walking into Dick's Sporting
Goods and buying it, which was perfectly legal. A lot of us would call
that "unsupervised", but the state of FL, NRA, gun nuts say it's all A-OK.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:7ada4f25-2e20-43bb-
b685-f860d789c4da@googlegroups.com:

Repeat after me, zero times anything is zero.

If only I could make your post count zero... or your heart rate...

or do the ant hill thing and watch as your fight or flight
adrenalin kicks. Buried up to your neck in heavy wet sand and
getting nailed by ants while your kidney caps fire. Now that would
be a ROFL video.

You really are pathetic. Pathetic times pathetic is overtly
pathetic, and that is you.

So repeat after me, dipshit... You admit that you are wrong.
Otherwise all of Usenet will see how you operate and how your
Trumpesque characterlessness is blatantly obvious.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 10:59:14 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:ac62de5a-7e22-4288-
9e15-cf54a62cdbb1@googlegroups.com:

We already have a "list", the fed instant check database.

Yes, you retarded fuck. And the ONLY names on it are felons and
parolees.

Wrong, always wrong. It's not just felons, the fed gun check database also
includes people convicted of any crime with a sentence of more than one year,
it includes people committed to a mental facility by a court, it
includes people convicted of domestic violence, anyone under indictment
for a crime with a possible sentence of a year or more, fugitives from
justice, dis-honerable discharge from the military......


Anything else I can help you with today?

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 10:54:33 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:ac62de5a-7e22-4288-9e15-cf54a62cdbb1@googlegroups.com:


Sure, but with a bill of zero, they aren't paying for that
distribution system, stupid.


Their bill is NOT zero, you dumbfuck!

Their bill shows their usage of the grid.

No it doesn't stupid.

Their bill shows what they generated back on that was over and
above what they used.

That isn't the issue stupid. Again, one more time. A solar home
that generates as much energy as they use, has a bill of zero, or
close to zero. Yet they are highly dependent on the GRID, they
are using it for a large portion of their power at NIGHT. Yet
they are paying nothing, or close to nothing to pay for the grid.

Solar home bill:

0 x 13 cents kwh = 0

Poor family bill

1000 x 13 cents = $130, with about half of that being the cost of DISTRIBUTION

Solar home pays ZERO for the grid, poor family pays $65.


Capiche?


No, of course not. Because you're wrong, always wrong.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 10:56:22 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 12:29:14 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 12:28:27 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:98b217b3-8859-4f5b-8297-27856115a4f6@googlegroups.com:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 4:12:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 1:32:00 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie
wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:50:01 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@
decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:1c7c66e4-961d-48b7- 8133-f0104fde3211@googlegroups.com:

snip

Someone with solar has a net bill of ZERO or close to it.

Seems unlikely.

Has anybody ever seen the electricity bill of somebody with roof-top solar cells?

NO! Only against what they generate. Once that match is even up,
they PAY for what they USE. REAL SIMPLE. WAKE UP.

Which is what I said, zero or near zero, stupid.

The claim that anybody actually gets a zero or near zero bill is a trifle incredible.

If they get paid for excess power that they have generated, and fed back into the grid, rather than using it themselves, it isn't actually a zero bill, but that's a more complicated idea than Trader4 can cope with.

snip

You are full of shit. The infrastructure is already in place and
went in before privatization in many cases. Most cost is now in
maintenance, and new builds.

And their non-solar neighbors are paying for that distribution system,
the solar home with a zero bill is not, stupid.

Wrong, always wrong.

Trader4 does come closer to that than most.

Even if the house with solar cells on the roof manages to generate more power than they use, and ends up getting paid enough for the excess that they have fed back into the grid to have a zero bill, the power that they have fed back into the grid is their payment for the cost of the distribution system.

Wrong, because in most states they get PAID for the net energy they
put into the grid. But then living in Australia, WTF would you know.


BTW, why is it that you have to take one post and turn it into three
separate replies?

Wrong, even with that.

 

<TraitorTard4@optonline.net> wrote in news:157435fb-35b1-4b84-90b1-
6a6c9a7caa8d@googlegroups.com:

> Capiche?

Doesn't this mean "flatten my face with a baseball bat" in retarded,
obsolete newyorkeeze? Because every time you say it, that is what I
think you are inviting me to do, and that is the urge that courses my
veins.