OT: What is NATO for?...

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bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
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On 3/7/2022 10:37 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:06:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it
happened John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was
in its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers
can destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia
is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We
have the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack
our friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.
That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack
anything but to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why
we are meddling in Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who
identified as some general, he looked at me and sad: \"Mr
Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\" I replied
\"commies are also people\" That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways
(some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example
participated in the attack on Iraq (filled with weapons of mass
destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state).
At the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they
were elated about all the extra sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).
Its a free world, Military Industrial Complex will sooner or
later find a stronger predator. You \'merricans are all a pawn in
their game,


and you aren\'t speaking either German or Russian. And you are
alive.

NATO wasn\'t always tits-on-a-bull, but it\'s a has-been. Has been a
has-been for about 30 years.

Unlike my erudite right-wing associates I don\'t consider the UN to
be entirely useless, though.

Only next-to-useless.

Not if they expell Russia (this week). I mean, you know... it\'s
right there in the name. UNITED nations, not invader of nations.

NATO still has purpose. Just likely beyond the grasp of
polititards... like you.

 

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Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsAE53ABCB3BD8B37B93@144.76.35.252:

On 09:06 7 Mar 2022, Jan Panteltje said:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was
in its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers
can destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We
have the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack
our friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.
That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything
but to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who
identified as some general, he looked at me and sad: \"Mr
Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\" I replied
\"commies are also people\"

So empathy is not one of your strengths.

That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways
(some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example
participated in the attack on Iraq (filled with weapons of mass
destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state). At
the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were
elated about all the extra sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).

You sound like Cordelia in Shakespeare\'s King Lear. She couldn\'t
stop shooting her mouth off in the name of \"honesty\" and plain
speaking. It ended up very, very badly.

Good girl! +1

 

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bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:b6rVJ.50330$dln7.25827
@fx03.iad:

I think you could turn the UN building into affordable housing and
really improve the quality of life in Manhattan a lot

What you think would be \"affordable housing\" in NYC, much less
Manhattan shows not much grasp of the situation in NYC.

There are waiting lines for ANY abode there and that includes
basement closets used as apartments because greedy landlors know they
could rent out a bathroom and call it an apartment and get away with
it. 18.87 million people packed into 305 square miles, and that is ALL
of NYC. Manhattan is more dense than the rest of the city, so some of
those millions are all packed in down there.

One friggin\' building would be like shooting a BB at a bowling ball.
Net result ZERO movement. Same thing for us trying to divert an
asteroid impact. BB into a bowling ball. More like micro-BB, Macro-
bowling ball.

 

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Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:t05f8v$cdm$1@dont-email.me:

On a sunny day (Mon, 07 Mar 2022 16:53:16 GMT) it happened Pamela
pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in
XnsAE53ABCB3BD8B37B93@144.76.35.252>:

On 09:06 7 Mar 2022, Jan Panteltje said:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it
happened John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was
in its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers
can destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We
have the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack
our friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.
That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack
anything but to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who
identified as some general, he looked at me and sad: \"Mr
Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\" I replied
\"commies are also people\"

So empathy is not one of your strengths.

That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways
(some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example
participated in the attack on Iraq (filled with weapons of mass
destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state). At
the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were
elated about all the extra sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).

You sound like Cordelia in Shakespeare\'s King Lear. She couldn\'t
stop shooting her mouth off in the name of \"honesty\" and plain
speaking. It ended up very, very badly.

Is that a threat name shifter?
As soon as your diapers are dry come back in the world of real
people. Maybe old wimin cannot fight like a man

LOL

Damn what a complete pussy you must be to consider that as any kind
of threat.

Damn you are fucking retarded, old man. DIE ALREADY. DO IT NOW.

 

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Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:92952b90-4f12-45b7-9081-0a414959ebe7n@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:14:46 AM UTC+11,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 11:34:10 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net
wrote:
On 3/7/2022 10:37 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:06:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com
wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it
happened Joh
n Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote in
t03sfp$lis$1...@dont-email.me>:

NATO wasn\'t always tits-on-a-bull, but it\'s a has-been. Has been
a has-b
een for about 30 years.

NATO forces have down useful stuff in and around Europe in the
past thirty years. American newspapers haven\'t made much fuss
about it.

Until Russia dreamed of empire again.

Politicians always dream of empire.

Unlike my erudite right-wing associates I don\'t consider the UN
to be en
tirely useless, though.

Only next-to-useless.

Worse than useless.

By which John Larkin means that right-wing US politicians who want
to use it to bully other countries into doing what they want done
haven\'t been able to exploit it in that role, and have had endure
the impertinence of being told that they were out of order.

The rest of the world rather values that.

Definite plus one level observation.

 

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t06kjt$uit$1@dont-email.me:

The problem is Western meddling in former Russian territories.

This is from NATO\'s website...

NATO welcomes Georgia\'s and Ukraine\'s aspirations for membership

It\'s not about defense, it\'s about establishing a first strike
capability.

I wrote:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was
in its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers
can destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We
have the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack
our friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.
That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything
but to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.

No, idiot. It is about DEFENDING AGAINST the \"first strike\"
capability and desires of despotic dictator who took over a nation
illegally, and invades other nations with that nation\'s military arm.
A former spy and one of the biggest criminals on the planet even
before he pulled these stupid military moves.

If we (the US) started \"mile walking\" tanks and troops in a line
into Russia, mile by mile, he would puke and die militarily, but his
response would be to launch the missiles he made threats with only
last week. NATO and the US ned to be able to defend against such a
choice, and THAT is what missile defense systems at that level are
about. Putin is not Hamas. These systems are not like what the IDF
uses.

You aint real right, John Dope.

 

[John Doe]

Always Wrong is off its meds again...

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John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
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I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in
its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can
destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Oh boy! An utter idiot with no clue what the word DETERRENCE
means. You must have been jacking off for the last 60 years.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe?

You not knowing is proof you never did and likely never will
understand what is going on in the world.

We
have the ability to destroy the whole world.

No shit, Schleprock.

Nobody will attack
our friends.

You must still have your head up Trump\'s fat ass. WAKE UP.
That is exactly what IS taking place.

If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.

I said yesterday that we should. Right onto the Kremlin.

That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

You are so wrong. You have to pull your head out of Trump\'s ass
and stop watching Fucktard Faux Nonnews.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything
but to preserve its own existence.

Then we should give one to Ukraine and let them destroy Moscow, and
one existence invading asshole will no longer exist.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.

Wrong again. NATO is about defense. OUR strike capacity comes
from having airbases in the nations of our allies, distinctly
separate from NATO and their mission.

You really ain\'t that bright. Man you should run over and marry
Jan Pan the Nederlander totla retard. You guys are meant for each
other.

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:22:39 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t07apf$8ka$5@dont-email.me>).

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET has been 52.8% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

labwuqKdTLvk

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:22:49 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote in news:t03sfp$lis$1...@dont-email.me:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in
its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can
destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Oh boy! An utter idiot with no clue what the word DETERRENCE means. You must have been jacking off for the last 60 years.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe?

You not knowing is proof you never did and likely never will understand what is going on in the world.

We have the ability to destroy the whole world.

No shit, Schleprock.

Nobody will attack our friends.

You must still have your head up Trump\'s fat ass. WAKE UP.
That is exactly what IS taking place.

If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.

I said yesterday that we should. Right onto the Kremlin.

That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

You are so wrong. You have to pull your head out of Trump\'s ass and stop watching Fucktard Faux Nonnews.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to preserve its own existence.

Then we should give one to Ukraine and let them destroy Moscow, and one existence invading asshole will no longer exist.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in Ukraine.

Wrong again. NATO is about defense. OUR strike capacity comes from having airbases in the nations of our allies, distinctly separate from NATO and their mission.

Some of it. The ballistic-missile carrying nuclear submarines come into it too.

You really ain\'t that bright. Man you should run over and marry
Jan Panteltje the Nederlander total retard. You guys are meant for each other.

Always Wrong is off its meds again...

As if John Doe was taking his ...

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can\'t get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:22:39 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
t07apf$8ka$5@dont-email.me>).

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET has been 52.8% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

labwuqKdTLvk

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 13:27:23 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t07ljr$9u7$5@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

fnnaK5uVGSud

 

[John Doe]

This is the problem with NATO expansion.

https://youtu.be/oKV_utFLXrw?t=305 (about 3 minutes worth)

That retired Lieutenant Colonel explains why Russia can do without an
organization like NATO. He points out that Russia plans to repel NATO with
tactical nukes. The only recourse would be to use nukes in return and
start World War III. Then we all lose, not just Russia.

But of course there are some suicidal people in the world. Seems like
lots!






John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 1:24:14 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Putin seems to think that his continued existence depends on nibbling away bits of the Ukraine. Once he got all of it, he\'s likely to start wanting something else.

> > Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in Ukraine.

John doe doesn\'t seem to have noticed intercontinental ballistic missiles provide a first strike capability that\'s totally independent of NATO. He\'s insane.

This is the problem with NATO expansion.

https://youtu.be/oKV_utFLXrw?t=305 (about 3 minutes worth)

Fox News can find the kind of right-wing nutcases that sound good to idiots like John Doe.
The speaker sounds quite as demented as John Doe which is worrying. The US doesn\'t seem to treating their lunatics - \"care in the community\" is cheap, but raving lunatics spouting total nonsense on prime time television does degrade the environment quite a lot.

Less articulate raving lunatics do seem to have become the Fox News target audience.

> That retired Lieutenant Colonel explains why Russia can do without an organization like NATO.

Obviously. NATO is a defensive alliance against the kind of territorial expansion Russia ins going after in the Ukraine. Russia would much prefer to able to conquer it neighbors one at a time with having to deal with their pesky allies.

> He points out that Russia plans to repel NATO with tactical nukes.

That\'s what he thinks that Russia plans to do. The response might be a single hydrogen bomb on the place Putin happens to be shortly after that tactical nuke went off. The underlying logic is exactly the same.

> The only recourse would be to use nukes in return and start World War III. Then we all lose, not just Russia.

Unless, of course, that tactical nuke started WW3, which it could well do.

> But of course there are some suicidal people in the world. Seems like lots!

People who are as stupid as John Doe and Putin can look suicidal to people who can think better.

Putin hasn\'t got all that far in his invasion of the Ukraine, though he has done a lot of damage there. The financial sanctions on Russia have wrecked it\'s economy, and it\'s not clear how long Putin can waste money on trying occupy more of the Ukraine. it\'s not as if occupying more of the Ukraine (or what left of it) is going to do a thing to restore the Russian economy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Pamela]

On 17:26 7 Mar 2022, Jan Panteltje said:

On a sunny day (Mon, 07 Mar 2022 16:53:16 GMT) it happened Pamela
pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in
XnsAE53ABCB3BD8B37B93@144.76.35.252>:
On 09:06 7 Mar 2022, Jan Panteltje said:
On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:


I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in
its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can
destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We
have the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack
our friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.
That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything
but to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands Was
already designing things for army and navy here back then. All went
well until I got an interview with somebody who identified as some
general, he looked at me and sad: \"Mr Panteltje you know we do not
want any commies here!\" I replied \"commies are also people\"

So empathy is not one of your strengths.

That was the end of that. Went to work for the national TV network,
more my thing anyways (some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO, completely nuts if you ask
me. NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example
participated in the attack on Iraq (filled with weapons of mass
destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state). At the
start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were elated
about all the extra sales the Iraq war promised. I gave my opinion
and left (was offered a contract).

You sound like Cordelia in Shakespeare\'s King Lear. She couldn\'t
stop shooting her mouth off in the name of \"honesty\" and plain
speaking. It ended up very, very badly.

Is that a threat name shifter? As soon as your diapers are dry come
back in the world of real people. Maybe old wimin cannot fight like a
man

LOL

Jan, in your comment who is it you think I am if I\'m a \"nym shifter\"?
You may have got me mistaken for someone else.

I was saying your plain speaking manner may be less of a virtue than
how you see it. Empathy and diplomacy have their merits and can avoid
friction.

I don\'t visit here often and only today saw your reply.