OT: What is NATO for?...

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Mon, 07 Mar 2022 07:37:23 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<lj9c2hlk1r8to9djcreuge0qv4lfiqm8er@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:06:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
always.look@message.header> wrote in <t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who identified as some general,
he looked at me and sad: \"Mr Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\"
I replied \"commies are also people\"
That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways (some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example participated in the attack on Iraq
(filled with weapons of mass destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state).
At the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were elated about all the extra
sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).
Its a free world, Military Industrial Complex will sooner or later find a stronger predator.
You \'merricans are all a pawn in their game,


and you aren\'t speaking either German or Russian. And you are alive.

My German is OK, even went to a 4 week training there for AmpeX, no problem whatsoever with the language.
My Russian sucks but as now 1TV on Hotbird 13 East satellite is the only TV channel from Russia I can see
as evil westerners ;-) have RT English on Astra 2 blocked, my Russian exposure is increasing.
1TV shows discussions all day long in Russian about Ukrain in front of a big chart that shows their advance.
rt.com internet still works here.
Is somehow more objective than CNN, CNN is not worth watching anymore these days,
I think their people must be dis-disillusioned. (I check out fox news daily)
China I check out too every day
https://www.cgtn.com/
as well as the German stations and the local news.
What other languages do you speak apart from merricanisch?

 

[server]

On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 11:34:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/7/2022 10:37 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:06:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
always.look@message.header> wrote in <t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who identified as some general,
he looked at me and sad: \"Mr Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\"
I replied \"commies are also people\"
That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways (some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example participated in the attack on Iraq
(filled with weapons of mass destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state).
At the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were elated about all the extra
sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).
Its a free world, Military Industrial Complex will sooner or later find a stronger predator.
You \'merricans are all a pawn in their game,


and you aren\'t speaking either German or Russian. And you are alive.

NATO wasn\'t always tits-on-a-bull, but it\'s a has-been. Has been a
has-been for about 30 years.

Until Russia dreamed of empire again.

Unlike my erudite right-wing associates I don\'t consider the UN to be
entirely useless, though.

Only next-to-useless.

Worse than useless.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[bitrex]

On 3/7/2022 12:14 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 11:34:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/7/2022 10:37 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:06:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
always.look@message.header> wrote in <t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who identified as some general,
he looked at me and sad: \"Mr Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\"
I replied \"commies are also people\"
That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways (some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example participated in the attack on Iraq
(filled with weapons of mass destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state).
At the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were elated about all the extra
sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).
Its a free world, Military Industrial Complex will sooner or later find a stronger predator.
You \'merricans are all a pawn in their game,


and you aren\'t speaking either German or Russian. And you are alive.

NATO wasn\'t always tits-on-a-bull, but it\'s a has-been. Has been a
has-been for about 30 years.


Until Russia dreamed of empire again.


Unlike my erudite right-wing associates I don\'t consider the UN to be
entirely useless, though.

Only next-to-useless.



Worse than useless.

I think you could turn the UN building into affordable housing and
really improve the quality of life in Manhattan a lot

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Mon, 07 Mar 2022 16:53:16 GMT) it happened Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in
<XnsAE53ABCB3BD8B37B93@144.76.35.252>:

On 09:06 7 Mar 2022, Jan Panteltje said:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in
its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can
destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying
on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have
the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our
friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power
is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but
to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are
meddling in Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who identified
as some general, he looked at me and sad: \"Mr Panteltje you know we
do not want any commies here!\" I replied \"commies are also people\"

So empathy is not one of your strengths.

That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways (some
called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example participated
in the attack on Iraq (filled with weapons of mass destruction
according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state). At the start of the
Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were elated about all the
extra sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).

You sound like Cordelia in Shakespeare\'s King Lear. She couldn\'t stop
shooting her mouth off in the name of \"honesty\" and plain speaking. It
ended up very, very badly.

Is that a threat name shifter?
As soon as your diapers are dry come back in the world of real people.
Maybe old wimin cannot fight like a man

LOL

 

[Rick C]

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 11:56:14 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:

On 3/7/2022 11:36 AM, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 11:34:22 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 3/7/2022 10:37 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:06:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
alway...@message.header> wrote in <t03sfp$lis$1...@dont-email.me>:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who identified as some general,
he looked at me and sad: \"Mr Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\"
I replied \"commies are also people\"
That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways (some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example participated in the attack on Iraq
(filled with weapons of mass destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state).
At the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were elated about all the extra
sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).
Its a free world, Military Industrial Complex will sooner or later find a stronger predator.
You \'merricans are all a pawn in their game,


and you aren\'t speaking either German or Russian. And you are alive.
NATO wasn\'t always tits-on-a-bull, but it\'s a has-been. Has been a
has-been for about 30 years.

Unlike my erudite right-wing associates I don\'t consider the UN to be
entirely useless, though.

Only next-to-useless.

Yes, that\'s why Putin is so fearful of having a NATO country next door, it would make Russia look weak through association.

Post Soviet Union the Russian oligarchs (of which Putin is one of the
biggest) has tended to view NATO as just a tool of US oligarchs e.g. the
Bushes, the Clintons, and we-will-coup-anyone-we-want! Elon Musk:

https://twitter.com/panoparker/status/1318157559266762752?lang=en

to use as a door-knocker to bang on their front door (contrary to
promises by Bush 1 administration et al that NATO wouldn\'t move
eastwards), and in that at least they weren\'t far off the mark.

The idea that Russia was unprovoked is as dumb as Putin\'s apparent
belief that regular Ukrainians would want him up their ass any more than
they particularly wanted NATO, at least until post-Crimea when they
started to view it as a least-worst option.

Your post is free form and not responsive to my comment. I guess anyone\'s post is as good as another when you just want to free associate.

--

Rick C.

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:14:46 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 11:34:10 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2022 10:37 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:06:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote in <t03sfp$lis$1...@dont-email.me>:

NATO wasn\'t always tits-on-a-bull, but it\'s a has-been. Has been a has-been for about 30 years.

NATO forces have down useful stuff in and around Europe in the past thirty years. American newspapers haven\'t made much fuss about it.

> Until Russia dreamed of empire again.

Politicians always dream of empire.

Unlike my erudite right-wing associates I don\'t consider the UN to be entirely useless, though.

Only next-to-useless.

Worse than useless.

By which John Larkin means that right-wing US politicians who want to use it to bully other countries into doing what they want done haven\'t been able to exploit it in that role, and have had endure the impertinence of being told that they were out of order.

The rest of the world rather values that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

This troll is acting like its country\'s \"Black Pete\" clown, without the blackface...

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On a sunny day (Sun, 6 Mar 2022 22:16:20 -0500) it happened bitrex
user@example.net> wrote in <8OeVJ.120890$z688.78237@fx35.iad>:

On 3/6/2022 10:00 PM, John Doe wrote:
I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.



NATO is for cheer-leading the invasion of 3rd world countries by a
superpower called the USA, based on whatever flimsy pretexts the USA
dreams up, but then freaking out when a different superpower does the
same to a country in its own backyard. Oh shit!

+1

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 02:39:04 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t06fk8$ah6$3@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
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uerXWDTs055H

 

[John Doe]

This incident is proving that English is all we need. Everybody is trying to
speak English, most are doing well, I\'m not criticizing any of them. I\'m
thrilled.

There are a few exceptions, like the rabid anti-American \"Jan Panteltje\" from
a racist, slave trading, child molesting country (Holland).

A country changing its name won\'t erase its pathetic history.

 

[John Doe]

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can\'t get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don\'t get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 02:39:04 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
t06fk8$ah6$3@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

uerXWDTs055H

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 02:53:16 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t06ges$ah6$6@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

T9X98P4EhIs5

 

[John Doe]

The problem is Western meddling in former Russian territories.

This is from NATO\'s website...

> NATO welcomes Georgia\'s and Ukraine\'s aspirations for membership

It\'s not about defense, it\'s about establishing a first strike capability.





I wrote:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 1:54:53 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

This incident is proving that English is all we need. Everybody is trying to
speak English, most are doing well, I\'m not criticizing any of them. I\'m
thrilled.

There are a few exceptions, like the rabid anti-American \"Jan Panteltje\" from
a racist, slave trading, child molesting country (Holland).

It\'s actually the Netherlands - technically the United Provinces of the Netherlands. North and South Holland are the biggest provinces.

> A country changing its name won\'t erase its pathetic history.

If you knew what the name of the country was, your claim to know something about it\'s history might have some plausiblity (not that anything that you post is going to be seen as particularly reliable).

The Netherlands isn\'t well known for child molestation - the Roman Catholic Church in the US has a higher profile for that (though the Roman Catholic Church in Australia seems to have been just as bad). As for slave trading - the English and Americans were just as enthusiastic about it back when it was popular, and the US had to fight a civil war to get rid of it.

Racist is a bit strange, coming from an American.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

https://youtu.be/MY3JsqVR_04

The first two reference videos inside of that video.







I wrote:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the
ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack our friends. If
they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia
is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to
preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability
against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in
Ukraine.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:04:23 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
> The problem is Western meddling in former Russian territories.

Whereas Russian meddling with, and actually invading, former Russian territory is perfectly okay, no matter how little the inhabitants like the idea?

This is from NATO\'s website...

NATO welcomes Georgia\'s and Ukraine\'s aspirations for membership

It\'s not about defense, it\'s about establishing a first strike capability..

Twaddle. Mutual assured destruction depends on having a second strike capability that could survive a first strike.

Once both sides have got that, establishing a first strike capability gets to be impossible.

NATO is more about inhibiting the salami strategy, where the aggressor limits itself to aggressions that are too small to be worht starting a war over..

I wrote:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in its
infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can destroy the
whole freaking Earth.

We can\'t. We might be able to bomb ourselves back a few centuries, but nobody is going to bother trying to do any more than that, even if they could.

> That\'s the power Russia is relying on right now.

Not exactly.

> > Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We have the ability to destroy the whole world.

You don\'t.

> Nobody will attack our friends.

Russia has just attacked the Ukraine, and the rest of the world is being decidedly pro-Ukraine. Maybe you\'d beter think that out again.


> > If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them. That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

Not that I\'ve noticed. There\'s no such thing as a \"small nuclear weapon\". Start spreading radioactive pollution around, and you are going to get to be terminally unpopular, and run the risk of massive strike aimed at making it difficult for you launch many more.

> > None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything but to preserve its own existence.

Russia has attacked the Ukraine when the Ukraine doesn\'t seem to present any threat to Russia\'s continued existence.

The existence of a more-or-less corruption-free regime in the Ukraine does threaten the continued existed of a corrupt and klepocrat regime in Rissia, which isn\'t quite the same problem.

> > Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we are meddling in the Ukraine.

Except that we weren\'t.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:27:43 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
> WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE ENTERTAIN BOZO FOR A WHILE...

<snip>

They don\'t need to bother making a special effort. John Doe and Flyguy are serving up quite enough obvious idiocies to provide me with a target-rich environment.
They are a bit too stupid to realise that the barbs are on target, but I don\'t need a particularly extravagant reward to stay motivated.

<snipped recycled targets>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

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John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t03sfp$lis$1@dont-email.me:

I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was in
its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers can
destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Oh boy! An utter idiot with no clue what the word DETERRENCE
means. You must have been jacking off for the last 60 years.

> Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe?

You not knowing is proof you never did and likely never will
understand what is going on in the world.

We
have the ability to destroy the whole world.

No shit, Schleprock.

Nobody will attack
our friends.

You must still have your head up Trump\'s fat ass. WAKE UP.
That is exactly what IS taking place.

> If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.

I said yesterday that we should. Right onto the Kremlin.

> That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

You are so wrong. You have to pull your head out of Trump\'s ass
and stop watching Fucktard Faux Nonnews.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything
but to preserve its own existence.

Then we should give one to Ukraine and let them destroy Moscow, and
one existence invading asshole will no longer exist.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.

Wrong again. NATO is about defense. OUR strike capacity comes
from having airbases in the nations of our allies, distinctly
separate from NATO and their mission.

You really ain\'t that bright. Man you should run over and marry
Jan Pan the Nederlander totla retard. You guys are meant for each
other.

 

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bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:8OeVJ.120890$z688.78237@fx35.iad:

On 3/6/2022 10:00 PM, John Doe wrote:
I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was
in its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers
can destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We
have the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack
our friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.
That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack anything
but to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.



NATO is for cheer-leading the invasion of 3rd world countries by a
superpower called the USA, based on whatever flimsy pretexts the
USA dreams up, but then freaking out when a different superpower
does the same to a country in its own backyard. Oh shit!

Well you are again wrong on your first non point. No surprise
there. Russia hardly qualifies as a super power any more other than
that they have a nuclear arsenal from decades ago that we are able to
destroy mid flight.

The Ruble is only worth a few pennies right now, because they never
had a decent export GDP to start with. The only things they are
exporting are flying lead and shrapnel and disinforming propaganda.

The US (or Ukraine) very likely COULD get a nuke directly into
Moscow unfettered, whereas Russia would very likely fail to commit
the same act against us. Despite his \"no fly warning\" he gave, his
real intention is to provoke us into a defne=sive resonse which he
can then claim was offensive in nature in order to expand his
attempts to harm our nation. No more escorts out of airspace they do
not belong in. Russian bombers flying toward US airspce get ONE
warning, and then they get shot out of the sky, and you may never
hear of it because Putin can\'t decide what he wants. He just wants
anything we do to stop him to appear as a heinious unprovoked attack
against Russia, so he can then start claiming it it OK to hit our
bases in Europe. He will lose this chess match, I guarantee.

 

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Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:t04hu5$bvq$1@dont-email.me:

Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.

Probably just another old fart lie.

All went well until I got an interview with somebody who
identified as some general, he looked at me and sad: \"Mr Panteltje
you know we do not want any commies here!\" I replied \"commies are
also people\" That was the end of that.

The only good commie is a dead commie. You a commie, fucktard?
CCAD, motherfucker.

Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways
(some called them all leftists of course ;-).

Oh boy... a TV Tard.

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.

Yes, you indeed are completely nuts.

> NATO has been, ever since, an attack force,

You are a goddamned idiot and a liar as well.

for example
participated in the attack on Iraq (filled with weapons of mass
destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state).

You certainly would not know what they did or did not have, or what
NATO\'s role in any actions there were about.

At
the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics,

Another lie, decidedly so, because you cannot even fucking spell
the name of a company you claim to have worked for.

they were
elated about all the extra sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).
Its a free world, Military Industrial Complex will sooner or later
find a stronger predator. You \'merricans are all a pawn in their
game,

You are an absolute retard, Jan Pantelje.

 

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:af284a56-e962-4475-a5cf-2b603b1b82a2n@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:06:24 AM UTC-5, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 03:00:10 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote in
t03sfp$lis$1...@dont-email.me>:
I suppose at the time NATO was established nuclear weaponry was
in its infancy. In any case, nowadays, all of the major powers
can destroy the whole freaking Earth. That\'s the power Russia is
relying on right now.

Why do we (America) even need to be part of NATO in Europe? We
have the ability to destroy the whole world. Nobody will attack
our friends. If they did, we could lob a \"small\" nuke on them.
That power is what Russia is threatening right now.

None of the major powers, no country at all, will attack
anything but to preserve its own existence.

Seems the only reason for NATO is to establish a first strike
capability against Russia, not to defend anything. That\'s why we
are meddling in Ukraine.
Around 1968 I applied for a job at NATO in the Netherlands
Was already designing things for army and navy here back then.
All went well until I got an interview with somebody who
identified as some general, he looked at me and sad: \"Mr
Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here!\" I replied
\"commies are also people\" That was the end of that.
Went to work for the national TV network, more my thing anyways
(some called them all leftists of course ;-).

But it showed the \'mind-set\' in NATO,
completely nuts if you ask me.
NATO has been, ever since, an attack force, for example
participated in the attack on Iraq (filled with weapons of mass
destruction according to Bush blah blah lies -> deep state). At
the start of the Iraq war I was working at Tectronics, they were
elated about all the extra sales the Iraq war promised.
I gave my opinion and left (was offered a contract).
Its a free world, Military Industrial Complex will sooner or
later find a stronger predator. You \'merricans are all a pawn in
their game,

You are such a silly boy.

Yeah, that\'s really tellin\' him! You go... GIRL!