OT: Trump's Visit

[Cursitor Doom]

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).




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Are you trying to give Slowman a heart attack or just bloody fingers ?

 

[TTman]

On 27/05/2019 02:02, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).

Yes, he told her to build a wall across the Channel and make the EU pay
for it.


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[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 27 May 2019 14:28:24 +0100, TTman wrote:

Yes, he told her to build a wall across the Channel and make the EU pay
for it.

You jest I'm sure, but I'D vote for that and so would a great many others.



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[TTman]

On 27/05/2019 17:07, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 27 May 2019 01:02:26 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).

Exactly. People wanted Brexit and she couldn't manage it.

Interesting things are happening in Austria, France, Italy, and
Australia too.

Only 17 million out of 65 million wanted it. The sensible people didn't
want it but probably didn't vote because they believed there was no
chance for the leavers. There's more hill billeys in the UK than in the
US me thinks...
Personally, I think it will end up with a re vote.Neither side knew what
they were voting for in the first place. Now we sort of know. There's
known knowns and known unknowns.... sound familiar to you guys over
there ???

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[John Larkin]

On Mon, 27 May 2019 01:02:26 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).

Exactly. People wanted Brexit and she couldn't manage it.

Interesting things are happening in Austria, France, Italy, and
Australia too.


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On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 9:02:30 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

I thought that's why she resigned, so she wouldn't have to meet with the
orange clown? In Japan, he has to have a double cheeseburger, made
with American beef for lunch. What an embarrassment.

 

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 27 May 2019 14:28:24 +0100, TTman wrote:

Yes, he told her to build a wall across the Channel and make the
EU pay for it.

You jest I'm sure, but I'D vote for that and so would a great many
others.

Sure you would. Just like the dopes that wanted brexit. Or are
those that did not want it the dopes?

Hint: There is a tunnel already in place.


The parallel? There was an economy already in place. Ya'all dumb
motherfuckers that voted to upset the apple cart and fuck it up for
everyone... succeeded. No tunnel backup.

The fix... whatever it is... is gonna cost all of us... yes,
even over here. But mostly you guys will have to recover from that
body slam.

So... gonna chuck it or re-embrace it?

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 27 May 2019 17:26:16 +0100, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 27/05/2019 17:07, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019 01:02:26 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).

Exactly. People wanted Brexit and she couldn't manage it.

Interesting things are happening in Austria, France, Italy, and
Australia too.


Only 17 million out of 65 million wanted it. The sensible people didn't
want it but probably didn't vote because they believed there was no
chance for the leavers. There's more hill billeys in the UK than in the
US me thinks...

Then it follows that elections should be decided by what is "sensible"
rather than what the majority vote for. Better disenfranchise
hillbillies to make sure.

How would we determine who is a hillbilly? A wine tasting exam?

Personally, I think it will end up with a re vote.Neither side knew what
they were voting for in the first place. Now we sort of know. There's
known knowns and known unknowns.... sound familiar to you guys over
there ???

I don't see the big deal. Lots of countries get along fine without
being members of the EU. The only hazard to the UK is revenge from
eurocrats. The UK wisely has its own currency already.

Maybe the UK and France and Italy can leave together and set up the NU
or something. Free trade but separate currencies. Let the US in too.

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On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).




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King Donald of England should be installed as a co-equal with
the dictator of the Isle of Man.

 

if the EU bureaucracy is so complicated that no one can figure out how one member would leave it,

then maybe that is an indication that it should be left.

m

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 29 May 2019 07:43:33 -0700 (PDT), makolber@yahoo.com wrote:

if the EU bureaucracy is so complicated that no one can figure out how one member would leave it,

then maybe that is an indication that it should be left.

m

I've been trying to navigate the CE-mark rules. It's an incredible
nightmare. Each specs starts with pages and pages of bureaucratic
nonsense, and the technical content is impossible to find. [1] Every
$400 document references a bunch of other $400 documents.

The consequence seems to be that most people just buy a big roll of
stickers and slap them on everything. To save that expense, they just
have "CE" engraved into their plastic injection molds.

When bureaucracy gets big enough, it's a reasonable risk to just
ignore it.

(I did a sincere, arguably defensible, CE compliance folder. Silly
me.)

[1] Does anyone have an image of the radiated field strength vs
frequency requirements?


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[Gerhard Hoffmann]

Am 29.05.19 um 16:43 schrieb makolber@yahoo.com:

if the EU bureaucracy is so complicated that no one can figure out how one member would leave it,

then maybe that is an indication that it should be left.

Oh, that's easy. You declare that you want out, and 24 months later
you are out. About as out as Laos or Ivory Coast. But you must say so.

The problem is when you want to be out, but keep the advantages as if
you were in. The usual English cherry picking. The EU has made
some concessions, but there are limits. The proposal is on the table for
nearly a year now, and it is definitely final.

It is only GB who cannot decide between vote again/accept/reject/GFY.

The EU has 32000 employees for all 27 members together.
It is estimated that GB will need 28000 alone, maybe even more
in the next years. The number of things to regulate does not
decrease for just one country and the EU has had 50 years
so most of it is stable now.

Giving GB even more time to make up their mind was a bad thing to do.


Gerhard

 

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:6b7teeluhagd0rqj01di67i0fv7h6uej9j@4ax.com:

The consequence seems to be that most people just buy a big roll
of
stickers and slap them on everything. To save that expense, they
just
have "CE" engraved into their plastic injection molds.

Not quite so simple.

IF one self certifies, which CE allows AFTER meeting with the
company and examining their products.

Remember if you market into all of Europe, your product must carry
the CE mark, and IF it indeed does, it had better be compliant,
because if it is not, they will ream your ass...

In an ideal world.

In our buffoon accepted as a president society, I guess you are
right, Johnny... A low life company could defraud the entire system
by placing the mark on their product without actually caring about
it being compliant..

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 30 May 2019 00:38:31 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:6b7teeluhagd0rqj01di67i0fv7h6uej9j@4ax.com:


The consequence seems to be that most people just buy a big roll
of
stickers and slap them on everything. To save that expense, they
just
have "CE" engraved into their plastic injection molds.


Not quite so simple.

IF one self certifies, which CE allows AFTER meeting with the
company and examining their products.

Who meets with who?

Remember if you market into all of Europe, your product must carry
the CE mark, and IF it indeed does, it had better be compliant,
because if it is not, they will ream your ass...

In an ideal world.

In our buffoon accepted as a president society, I guess you are
right, Johnny... A low life company could defraud the entire system
by placing the mark on their product without actually caring about
it being compliant..

I was in Oxford (actually in an ex-barn in Milton Keynes) working with
some brits. I asked if our joint product would have to be CE tested.
They all cracked up at this dumb yank. After they stopped laughing
they explained that CE means Can't Enforce.

Good thing, actually. My part made -2KV, 5 ns pulses.

Some guys here have admitted to just slapping on stickers.


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John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:8naueeh9o97ncp4qs8f8ekbouj6vmj95ht@4ax.com:

Good thing, actually. My part made -2KV, 5 ns pulses.

Some guys here have admitted to just slapping on stickers.

How many units do you sell to euro customers?

We had two subs in China and could OEM M numbers of units (low
voltage). They tend to pay more attention at those numbers. Our
stuff was well designed though, so no cabinet fires in your favorite
new product with the OEM supply you put in it.

Our HV stuff was usually custom and low volume if not a one off.
We would make a special for the NOAA to go up in a balloon and they
would order 3 and beat the piss out of one till it died, and hard
test the other two and one went up and the other ended up getting
trashed even though unscratched. Thousands each. HV supply with a
LOG amp front end. Nowadays, there are single chip solutions. Back
then it had to be hashed out on the board.

We almost made a Psuedo-directional(of course) EMP pulser for the
green zone in Iraq. That program never got contracted. It was
going to be lighting off bad folks' bombs as they came up the lane
toward the protected zone(s).

 

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:8naueeh9o97ncp4qs8f8ekbouj6vmj95ht@4ax.com:

Who meets with who?

The company I worked for at the time *also* happened to be half
owned by a UK company, then LLoyds ended up investing. So those
guys were intimate with the whole process for years before us, and
they handheld us through ending up as a self certifying facility.
We also self certified UL approval on our stuff. We actually
consulted with UL to instruct them about HV supplies in various form
factors, fed by various power sources. They only cared about line
fed devices for the most part. They had no clue how to examine or
grade say a 9 volt fed 15kV supply that one could fit 6 of in a 100
mm cigarette pack.

That was never to be a UL product anyway as it was a medical grade
thing that knew how to turn itself off in microseconds and at
microamps of overcurrent. Human contact devices are very tightly
controlled in the medical community. We spent two years developing
it and morphing it to their needs. At one time it was a dual 7kV
supply. Each multiplier section had to be potted in a little square
shell that looked like one third of 2001ASO Monolith.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 30 May 2019 03:22:27 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:8naueeh9o97ncp4qs8f8ekbouj6vmj95ht@4ax.com:

Who meets with who?


The company I worked for at the time *also* happened to be half
owned by a UK company, then LLoyds ended up investing. So those
guys were intimate with the whole process for years before us, and
they handheld us through ending up as a self certifying facility.
We also self certified UL approval on our stuff. We actually
consulted with UL to instruct them about HV supplies in various form
factors, fed by various power sources. They only cared about line
fed devices for the most part. They had no clue how to examine or
grade say a 9 volt fed 15kV supply that one could fit 6 of in a 100
mm cigarette pack.

That was never to be a UL product anyway as it was a medical grade
thing that knew how to turn itself off in microseconds and at
microamps of overcurrent. Human contact devices are very tightly
controlled in the medical community. We spent two years developing
it and morphing it to their needs. At one time it was a dual 7kV
supply. Each multiplier section had to be potted in a little square
shell that looked like one third of 2001ASO Monolith.

Who meets with who?




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[Michael Kellett]

On 27/05/2019 17:26, TTman wrote:

On 27/05/2019 17:07, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019 01:02:26 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator
and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).

Exactly. People wanted Brexit and she couldn't manage it.

Interesting things are happening in Austria, France, Italy, and
Australia too.


Only 17 million out of 65 million wanted it. The sensible people didn't
want it but probably didn't vote because they believed there was no
chance for the leavers. There's more hill billeys in the UK than in the
US me thinks...
Personally, I think it will end up with a re vote.Neither side knew what
they were voting for in the first place. Now we sort of know. There's
known knowns and known unknowns.... sound familiar to you guys over
there ???

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The vote was 52% for out, 48% to remain - those who didn't vote
(children, the uninterested and the incapable) don't get counted.

From subsequent events it is clear that the proportions have not
shifted significantly - so the assertion that people didn't know what
they were voting for looks rather weak.

But the argument is moving on - now it's no longer just, in or out of
the EU, but about trust in democracy itself - when political parties
campaign on one ticket but then vote in parliament on another.

Just how cross are we ?

If the vote in the EU elections was repeated in a general election the
Brexit party would get 480+ seats and the Conservatives would get 0. Of
course we'll all calm down a bit by the next general election - unless
the feeling of being cheated continues - and then almost anything could
happen.

In a global context the election of Donald Trump in the USA isn't
looking that exceptional.

MK

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[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 11:02:30 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Trump goes over to the UK shortly and will have a very well-deserved
opportunity to gloat over the demise of the British prime minister.

He told her exactly how to deal with the EU. A world class negotiator and
deal-maker gave her free, priceless advice and the stupid cow completely
ignored it. She thought she knew better! Unbelievable self-delusion.

Turump tried to sell his "world class negotiating and deal-making skills" through Trump University. He got some third rate text-booker writer to create the texts (with no help from him), and it got shut down as a fraud.

Theresa May got stuck with an insoluble problem, and Trump's bizarre idea that he had any useful advice to give is the unbelievable self-delusion here.

I do hope he takes a moment out just to say "Sorry, Theresa, but I told
you so." Oh how I'd love to see her face if that were to happen (and I
pray to god it will).

She doesn't seem to go in for expressing contempt all that often, but if Trump were silly enough to say something like that (and he can be remarkably silly) she should be able to manage it.

Boris Johnson does seem to be silly enough to believe that he can square the circle, which is probably a more serious case of self-delusion.

If he gets to replace May it would be fun to see him go down in flames, but the dire consequences for our friends in the UK make it a situation better avoided.

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