OT: Rittenhouse shot \"three black men\" - apparently!...

[server]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 17:46:31 GMT, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11:20 20 Nov 2021, Cursitor Doom said:

The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-
uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/
--

That\'s shameful sloppy reporting by the Independent.

There are few primary news sources, ones near the actual event. Most
reporters get their news from other reporters. So as a story is
filtered through, say, 10 prejudiced levels, it drifts.

That suggests that the longer the time delay from event to report, the
more distortion is likely. Roughly 12 hours per filtering step?



--

Father Brown\'s figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

 

[server]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 17:46:31 GMT, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11:20 20 Nov 2021, Cursitor Doom said:

The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-
uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/
--

That\'s shameful sloppy reporting by the Independent.

There are few primary news sources, ones near the actual event. Most
reporters get their news from other reporters. So as a story is
filtered through, say, 10 prejudiced levels, it drifts.

That suggests that the longer the time delay from event to report, the
more distortion is likely. Roughly 12 hours per filtering step?



--

Father Brown\'s figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

 

[bitrex]

On 11/20/2021 1:56 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 5:44:46 AM UTC-6, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 20/11/2021 11:20, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/
--

\"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single
sentence: abolition of private property.\"

- The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels.

he should sue Biden

I guess it isn\'t as straight forward as one would think. Rittenhouse might be considered a public figure. That makes
it tougher to collect.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/kyle-rittenhouse-verdict-defamation-lawsuit-doj-investigation

\"Such defamation cases however are notoriously difficult to win and the
odds are against Rittenhouse in prevailing on these characterizations of
prejudice or guilt.\"

An organization that called him a \"murderer\" instead of \"alleged
murderer\" he might have a case against, but the terms \"domestic
terrorist\" and \"white supremacist\" aren\'t well-defined. Who isn\'t a
\"white supremacist\", a \"terrorist\", a \"Nazi\", a \"communist\", or a
\"fascist\" these days?

These words are used as the material equivalent of the word \"asshole\"
and the courts tend to treat claims of defamation with respect to them
about as seriously, public figure or no.

 

[bitrex]

On 11/20/2021 6:44 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 20/11/2021 11:20, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/

  --

\"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the
single
  sentence: abolition of private property.\"

   - The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels.

he should sue Biden

His legal team would have to show that being called a \"white
supremacist\" somehow materially damaged him more than it materially
helped him, being a white supremacist is not a crime, you have to prove
material damages.

Far as I can tell it only made him money...

 

[bitrex]

On 11/20/2021 2:22 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 17:46:31 GMT, Pamela
pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11:20 20 Nov 2021, Cursitor Doom said:

The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-
uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/
--

That\'s shameful sloppy reporting by the Independent.

There are few primary news sources, ones near the actual event. Most
reporters get their news from other reporters. So as a story is
filtered through, say, 10 prejudiced levels, it drifts.

Some second and third-rate local US city papers like the Worcester
Telegram-Gazette have more in-the-field journalists on staff than some
internet/cable news outlets.

25 years ago it was different but they mostly realized that news
aggregation \"worked\" well enough and it was 14 hours a day of
talking-heads giving opinions that readers and viewers really wanted to
see, not actual news coverage.

14 hours a day of opinion pieces is a lot cheaper than maintaining
foreign news bureaus, too.

That suggests that the longer the time delay from event to report, the
more distortion is likely. Roughly 12 hours per filtering step?

 

[Phil Allison]

dean...@gmail.com wrote:
---------------------------------------------

he should sue Biden

I guess it isn\'t as straight forward as one would think.
Rittenhouse might be considered a public figure.

** Utter nonsense.

> That makes it tougher to collect.

** No when you maliciously slander someone about to face a criminal trail.

That warrants punitive damages.


....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

bitrex = fuckwit wrote:
==================

An organization that called him a \"murderer\" instead of \"alleged
murderer\" he might have a case against, but the terms \"domestic
terrorist\" and \"white supremacist\" aren\'t well-defined.

** Don\'t matter.
The context defines the intended meaning.


> These words are used as the material equivalent of the word \"asshole\"

** Absolute crap.

 

[Phil Allison]

bitrex = fuckwit wrote:
==================

An organization that called him a \"murderer\" instead of \"alleged
murderer\" he might have a case against, but the terms \"domestic
terrorist\" and \"white supremacist\" aren\'t well-defined.

** Don\'t matter.
The context defines the intended meaning.


> These words are used as the material equivalent of the word \"asshole\"

** Absolute crap.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:22:59 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 17:46:31 GMT, Pamela
pamela.priv...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11:20 20 Nov 2021, Cursitor Doom said:

The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-
uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/
--

That\'s shameful sloppy reporting by the Independent.
There are few primary news sources, ones near the actual event. Most
reporters get their news from other reporters. So as a story is
filtered through, say, 10 prejudiced levels, it drifts.

That suggests that the longer the time delay from event to report, the
more distortion is likely. Roughly 12 hours per filtering step?

Sloman would have loved the lying Prosecutor who claimed the young man had an illegal weapon, and who withheld critical evidence showing that the three idiots assaulted an armed man. One tried to disarm him, and was shot. A second then did the same. The third pulled a pistol on him, and was shot in the leg. A forth man had chased him prior to this, and he fell. That man not only delayed him from getting clear of the situation, but he kicked the young man in the head while he was on the ground.
This case wasn\'t about convicting him for fake crimes, it was another blatant attempt to disarm citizens.

 

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

On 20/11/2021 17:54, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:

On 20/11/2021 11:20, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/

  --

\"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the
single
  sentence: abolition of private property.\"

   - The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels.

Surely the issue is he did not shoot 3 \'black men\' because
inconveniently for the Independant the 3 men were white!

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa true

 

[Phil Allison]

terrell....@gmail.com wrote:
====================

Sloman would have loved the lying Prosecutor who claimed the young man had an illegal weapon,

** No lie - simply mistaken about the precise law.

and who withheld critical evidence showing that the three idiots assaulted an armed man.

** Huh ?

One tried to disarm him,

** Wrong, the first lunatic clearly wanted to murder him.
Earlier on, he made several death threats and harassed Kyle till he ran off.

A second then did the same.

** Wrong, the others all acted on a false claim that Kyle was an \"active shooter\" and to \"get him\".

> The third pulled a pistol on him, and was shot in the leg.

** Wrong - he was shot in the upper arm.

A forth man had chased him prior to this, and he fell.
That man not only delayed him from getting clear of the situation,
but he kicked the young man in the head while he was on the ground.

** Yes, the \" unknown attacker\" that the police knew very well all along.
He refused to testify without being given immunity.
So they made him anonymous.


> This case wasn\'t about convicting him for fake crimes, it was another blatant attempt to disarm citizens.

** Nope.
The trial was 100% political, to back up the MSM\'s fake story that Kyle was a murderer.
The purpose of which was to justify allowing a fake protest to become rioting without interference from police.


....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

terrell....@gmail.com wrote:
====================

Sloman would have loved the lying Prosecutor who claimed the young man had an illegal weapon,

** No lie - simply mistaken about the precise law.

and who withheld critical evidence showing that the three idiots assaulted an armed man.

** Huh ?

One tried to disarm him,

** Wrong, the first lunatic clearly wanted to murder him.
Earlier on, he made several death threats and harassed Kyle till he ran off.

A second then did the same.

** Wrong, the others all acted on a false claim that Kyle was an \"active shooter\" and to \"get him\".

> The third pulled a pistol on him, and was shot in the leg.

** Wrong - he was shot in the upper arm.

A forth man had chased him prior to this, and he fell.
That man not only delayed him from getting clear of the situation,
but he kicked the young man in the head while he was on the ground.

** Yes, the \" unknown attacker\" that the police knew very well all along.
He refused to testify without being given immunity.
So they made him anonymous.


> This case wasn\'t about convicting him for fake crimes, it was another blatant attempt to disarm citizens.

** Nope.
The trial was 100% political, to back up the MSM\'s fake story that Kyle was a murderer.
The purpose of which was to justify allowing a fake protest to become rioting without interference from police.


....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

terrell....@gmail.com wrote:
====================

Sloman would have loved the lying Prosecutor who claimed the young man had an illegal weapon,

** No lie - simply mistaken about the precise law.

and who withheld critical evidence showing that the three idiots assaulted an armed man.

** Huh ?

One tried to disarm him,

** Wrong, the first lunatic clearly wanted to murder him.
Earlier on, he made several death threats and harassed Kyle till he ran off.

A second then did the same.

** Wrong, the others all acted on a false claim that Kyle was an \"active shooter\" and to \"get him\".

> The third pulled a pistol on him, and was shot in the leg.

** Wrong - he was shot in the upper arm.

A forth man had chased him prior to this, and he fell.
That man not only delayed him from getting clear of the situation,
but he kicked the young man in the head while he was on the ground.

** Yes, the \" unknown attacker\" that the police knew very well all along.
He refused to testify without being given immunity.
So they made him anonymous.


> This case wasn\'t about convicting him for fake crimes, it was another blatant attempt to disarm citizens.

** Nope.
The trial was 100% political, to back up the MSM\'s fake story that Kyle was a murderer.
The purpose of which was to justify allowing a fake protest to become rioting without interference from police.


....... Phil

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 15:07:31 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

14 hours a day of opinion pieces is a lot cheaper than maintaining
foreign news bureaus, too.

The BBC manages to somehow do both! It\'s amazing what you can do with
limitless cash extorted from the public under the threat of
imprisonment, it seems.
--

\"In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement
against the existing social and political order of things. In all of these
movements, they bring to the front, as a leading question, the issue of
private property ownership.\"

- Marx and Engels, The Communist Manifesto

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 15:07:31 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

14 hours a day of opinion pieces is a lot cheaper than maintaining
foreign news bureaus, too.

The BBC manages to somehow do both! It\'s amazing what you can do with
limitless cash extorted from the public under the threat of
imprisonment, it seems.
--

\"In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement
against the existing social and political order of things. In all of these
movements, they bring to the front, as a leading question, the issue of
private property ownership.\"

- Marx and Engels, The Communist Manifesto

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 15:07:31 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

14 hours a day of opinion pieces is a lot cheaper than maintaining
foreign news bureaus, too.

The BBC manages to somehow do both! It\'s amazing what you can do with
limitless cash extorted from the public under the threat of
imprisonment, it seems.
--

\"In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement
against the existing social and political order of things. In all of these
movements, they bring to the front, as a leading question, the issue of
private property ownership.\"

- Marx and Engels, The Communist Manifesto

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 20:57:40 +0000, \"Jim GM4DHJ ...\"
<kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

On 20/11/2021 17:54, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
On 20/11/2021 11:20, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/

  --

\"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the
single
  sentence: abolition of private property.\"

   - The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels.

Surely the issue is he did not shoot 3 \'black men\' because
inconveniently for the Independant the 3 men were white!
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa true

We got a sharp one \'ere, Jim!
--

\"Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous
proposal of the Communists.\"

- The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 20:57:40 +0000, \"Jim GM4DHJ ...\"
<kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

On 20/11/2021 17:54, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
On 20/11/2021 11:20, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/

  --

\"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the
single
  sentence: abolition of private property.\"

   - The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels.

Surely the issue is he did not shoot 3 \'black men\' because
inconveniently for the Independant the 3 men were white!
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa true

We got a sharp one \'ere, Jim!
--

\"Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous
proposal of the Communists.\"

- The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 20:57:40 +0000, \"Jim GM4DHJ ...\"
<kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

On 20/11/2021 17:54, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
On 20/11/2021 11:20, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The usual impartial, truthful reporting from the usual, impartial
sources: the MSM:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/19/fact-check-false-uk-publication-claims-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-black-men/

  --

\"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the
single
  sentence: abolition of private property.\"

   - The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels.

Surely the issue is he did not shoot 3 \'black men\' because
inconveniently for the Independant the 3 men were white!
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa true

We got a sharp one \'ere, Jim!
--

\"Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous
proposal of the Communists.\"

- The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels

 

[Phil Allison]

bitrex = fuckwit wrote:
==================

An organization that called him a \"murderer\" instead of \"alleged
murderer\" he might have a case against, but the terms \"domestic
terrorist\" and \"white supremacist\" aren\'t well-defined.

** Don\'t matter.
The context defines the intended meaning.

How many defamation cases did Greta Thunberg win

** What a load of fucking desperate drivel.

These words are used as the material equivalent of the word \"asshole\"

** Absolute crap.

The terms aren\'t well-defined.

** Don\'t matter.
The context defines the intended meaning.

In this case, the clear imputation was that Kyle deserved to go to jail for life.
A massive, criminal defamation.


...... Phil